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Eleganta's avatar

As a young Democratic activist, I was discussing politics with my Republican activist grandparents from the time I was a teenager in the 1970s. Once we got past the insults they and their friends used for Democrats (I was a very patient teenager), we found that we had nothing but common ground.

I kept calmly steering the conversation away from political partisanship and back to our values, until one day--in talking about how we as a society can take care of people who can't take care of themselves--my grandfather said, "Maybe those Communists had it right after all."

I wasn't pro-Communist, so it didn't affect me one way or the other. But when I told my mother (whose split with her parents over politics had been extremely painful), she said, "He didn't say that!" She couldn't believe that all the hurtful fights he'd had with her, accusing her of being one of "those Commies," had been for nothing.

Political partisanship destroys families.

The truth is that everyone wants a good life in a safe place for their kids. Nobody needs to be rich. Nobody needs anyone else to be poor. Everyone believes in the middle class. "Liberty and justice for all": that's the American dream.

United we stand, divided we fall.

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Un-silent's avatar

Yes! From your mouth to America's ears. Thank God for those who can critically think for themselves.

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LovingMother's avatar

Right, I've never felt tied to red or blue myself but I will vote for sanity every time.

Regarding standing up for sanity - I really admire this woman, Tish Hyman, in the video below. She tells California Senator Scott Wiener how she likes many of his progressive bills and respects what he has done with housing (which is certainly her right) but takes him down over his "trans" policies which are dangerous for children and women. She is a black, lesbian woman with a sister in prison and she was assaulted in a women’s locker room at a Gold’s Gym in Los Angeles by a man who identifies as a woman and has a documented history of domestic violence. Gold's Gym took away her membership for complaining!

On the way out she encounters the only other black woman present and advises her "Don't let them use our blackness and our civil rights as a reason to pass weird laws so that children are transformed. It's wrong." She says we should not "transform" the children and complains that her sister cannot get free tampons or soap in prison but she can get free transformation medicine. 'Big Pharma at it's best. I'm tired of it."

https://xcancel.com/CollinRugg/status/1988342748483891287#m

Tish Hyman might be our new Rosa Parks for women in the 21st century.

Senator Scott Wiener is an evil clown.

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senora sangria's avatar

It's good when we humans can be humble and realistic enough to recognize when we're on a poor path and change our course.....

thanks for sharing this!

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Running Raven's avatar

It's easy, and much less dramatic than people make it seem. You pick what's _closest_ to what's most important to you, and apart from that let politics be politics. I don't know why the answer to extremism (either or, or else) should be more extreme (then I'll have nothing) instead of freaking normalcy. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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VN's avatar

The huge problem in city, state and federal government is overspending. Spending is supposed to be tied to population and inflation. But is going up much higher than those 2 factors. And the spending is hidden from taxpayers by doing big omnibus bills, hiding all the pork. So I think that in the interest of transparency to citizens, each bill should be voted on individually. Hold your reps accountable.

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Joanna Vital Health's avatar

Hi Desister,

I am so glad you were able to desist and you are seeing things in the layers that they often are, not in black and white.

There are those people who are indoctrinated too deeply, who I think, personally, it is a waste of time to try to get them to our side (the sex realist side). They don't want to listen and there is no window of opportunity for a conversation. On a positive note, I don't think we actually need "everybody" to wake up in order to win.

Anthropologist Margaret Mead said: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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James Loewen's avatar

A beautiful and well-informed poem, Desister. We absolutely need to move beyond red and blue.

Remember everyone, look up, and rise up against the elite-pedo-parasites manipulating both sides, funding all wars, dictating policies in medicine and education, and controlling big pharma, mainstream media, corrupt governments and compromised politicians.

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for the kids's avatar

Perfect and thank you!!!! I will share this!

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Islamae's avatar

Indeed, two wings of a dirty old bird. And the algorithms are set to "feed" each of us the best of "our side" & the worst of "the other".

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EyesOpen's avatar

I'm with you. I like this: "It seems like the Wokies and the Trumpies have equally lost their common sense,

Both extremes have been indoctrinated and are caught up in a trance".

I'm an independent/non-affiliated voter, and some people actually disrespect me, even cancel me, because I haven't come over to their side fully.

Yes, "I’m sure many of us want a middle ground. But a central party to represent us is nowhere to be found."

Let's hope things change in the future.

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