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Elizabeth's avatar

Spot on.

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AlexEsq's avatar

holding the adults accountable is a very great idea.

doing that is rather difficult. There are lawsuits in the works against medical providers, but none of those have been settled yet in the desistors' favor.

often people take on school boards, as though local schools control what is taught and what the "policy" is for gender confused children and teens.

However the real power in education is at the state level, where the state department of education sets policy that local school boards must follow if they want to receive full state funding.

So, how do we target the state level decisions about educational policy?

Because if we can hold the teachers & school psychologists or social workers accountable, then we will see some good results.

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Jenny Poyer Ackerman's avatar

💯

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EW's avatar
9hEdited

I generally agree and it would be very hard for me to be cruel to a teenage boy but I also think the boys stealing opportunities and wins from girls need to understand that what they are doing is wrong. Some of these boys really do seem like bullies, others like lost souls who have been babied their whole lives and can’t imagine people not letting them continue to be girls, even while they cheat their way through a high school sports career. They all have to be made aware that what they are doing is wrong, unfair, and even dangerous. Not in a mean spirited way, but then again, someone should clue them in that cheats are treated with contempt and anger. Thats just how it goes.

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Former Dem's avatar

It's not insignificant that most of the biggest cheerleaders of unquestioned transitions for minors and 'kids know who they are' do not have a trans child themselves. Or any child in many cases.

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Claire de Luna's avatar

Exactly this. I fight to protect my Autistic daughter who was groomed online by a trans identitying male and made to think she's a boy. She was a victim, not a object of ridicule.

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AlexEsq's avatar

my son is a victim too. also autistic.

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Claire de Luna's avatar

I'm very sorry to hear that. The amount of autistic children and young people is so disproportionately high, it amazes me that most medical professionals don't see it as an issue.

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Emily Ann's avatar

Thanks for writing this! I have mixed feelings about your thesis statement here. To start, I 100% agree that adults can, should and hopefully will be held accountable from every institution that has enabled, encouraged, indoctrinated, or treated children in distress. Full stop.

Do I think minor children such as male athletes playing in girls' sports should be mocked? Probably not. There is a mother or father pushing that child to be an example, more often than not.

But there is a difference between mocking/shaming and smartly creating a sense of outrage.

Well-intentioned progressives who believe supporting GI is a good idea are doing so because they're told that none of this is happening, or that if it is happening it affects a small number of people, and even if it is happening, it's a good thing because Be Kind. They don't get pictures of botched surgeries in their feeds. They don't see the material that Exulsanic and others post showing young people who have clearly lost their way. They see a carefully curated reality, with rainbows and glitter and the perfect Trans Person who will never talk about the steps involved in having genitalia removed, how painful surgery might be, and any side effects that come from wrong sex hormones.

These folks don't see the ugliness, the horror, the impact of it all. How can they object to something they are told doesn't exist or is being exaggerated? Of course they're not outraged nor are they calling for things to change!

We can't get to the point of holding adults accountable until the average person understands what has really gone on. They have to be shocked and angered before they will join us in calls to hold adults to account. Hopefully we can find ways to do that without making vulnerable kids feel even more vulnerable. But I don't know how to do that. My .02.

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Mothers Grim's avatar

Thank you for saying this. It is the system that must be destroyed and held accountable not the lives of young people or their families caught up in the madness.

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MeriBear's avatar

Exactly. I remember back in my own confused late 20’s, newly divorced, thinking I was a lesbian, rather than a refugee from a narcissistic, toxic spouse, and going to a women’s music concert. There, Holly Near said she acknowledged it was not a good time for men and boys but women and girls had been treated badly for so long, the demonization of men and imbalance was justified. I remember nodding along like the manipulated parrot that I was. This was around 1983. Now, my younger of my two sons thinks he is a woman and wears DD boobs paid for by the taxpayers, via the US Army. This has been a long time percolating. I didn’t wake up until 2016.

We need to show compassion to the victims even while they don’t know they are victims. I had no idea of my own programming and the manipulation of my generation until I woke up. The people on the other side are fish that don’t know they are wet. We even have to be careful in our compassion lest they think we are being patronizing. Everyone wakes up on their own time schedule.

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Susan Z's avatar

When my now adult son was a senior in high school he was given the girls science award. When his dad and I were invited to the assembly (only parents of those getting awards are invited) my husband asked specifically if the awards were given by sex. We had an older son in this same private school so we were familiar that the awards were given by academic categories and by girl/boy. The head of the high school lied to my husband. He said this year the awards will not be "gendered". So we went to support our kid and were disgusted, embarrassed and angry that our son was given the girls award. I went out to my car and cried. I know for a fact other parents were very upset and I know they were talking about our son and us behind our backs. They were upset a girl missed out. I don't want my kid to be punished or ostracized by this occurrence. The adults made this call. They lied to us. And they deprived an actual girl of an award she deserved. I totally blame the adults for all of this debacle. The school talked down to us as parents, made us feel small, and all the while strongly cheered on the harm of the trans ideology for my son. It is completely the "adults". Or whatever the hell they are.

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AlexEsq's avatar

you should make this statement public to your school.

That might seem very difficult but it could have a real impact.

Maybe start by approaching the "authorities" of the school privately and tell them just what you wrote here. Their policy is wrong. Pure & simple.

I'm curious if you tried to explain this to your son too?

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Susan Z's avatar

I have not approached the school. Partly because my son still identifies as female. I thought they would simply reiterate that he wants to be seen as female. Others know that his late dad and I did not approve of what happened. We made that very clear when an acquaintance brought it up in a social situation. I talked to my son later that day. I said I am proud of your accomplishments in science, and I know you worked hard. But deep down inside you know it is wrong that you got the girl award. He said nothing and walked away. BTW he is now a grad student in chemistry. Publishing his research under his new legal woman name. The pain just continues. I hope one day he desists and then I plan to give lots of people an earful.

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AlexEsq's avatar

thank you for your reply. You're lucky that trans hasn't defeated your son's intellectual power. My kid has been totally derailed by trans and went from a highly competitive college to skid-row. It's so heart-breaking.

Wishing you courage, equanimity, and joy.

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Susan Z's avatar

thank you. I do get satisfaction knowing he has goals and some passions in life. I know many parents in your situation. so I have some solace that he is moving on in life. But nonetheless a sadness that he thinks he is doing well because of the identity. that's hard for me as his mom. My best wishes for you. This sucks any way you look at it.

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Mama Bear Proud's avatar

Heartbreaking.

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LovingMother's avatar

I can relate.

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Traci Hansen's avatar

While it is tempting to mock the absurdity, I agree that we need to provide our children with face saving ways to retreat from the madness of the trans movement. I have given my beautiful daughter multiple "outs" in hopes that she will grasp the lifeline and come back. I've apologized for not protecting her better, provided evidence that her cooccurring ADHD and Autism could be the reason she was drawn into the ideology, and suggested that my own struggles with OCD could be affecting her. All of these things make it "not her fault." I just pray that she will take the offering and come home to herself.

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OverIT's avatar

Agree but accountability is a tough one. My husband and I made sure to attend parent teacher conferences and to handle any doctor's appointments with care. We made sure to let them know our stance and were also careful in finding a non affirming therapist when our kid seemed to need one. It was pretty clear to us that most of these adults were also doing what they could to navigate the insanity. I agree the kids are not to blame and those deep into it don't deserve to be shamed. But how to let them know in no uncertain terms that it's not ok? I am working on it within my own family and the only thing I can come up with is just holding the line and trying to keep the connection going.

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Melanie Black's avatar

Absolute truth. I can understand the dismay from parents of girls and the resulting pushback, but it's so true that the Trans children aren't the problem. You have presented an important concept to think about.

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Joseph Pandolfo's avatar

I 100% agree with this article. What I see as a problem is that many of these groomers (typically masquerading as medical professionals) are impossible to find. For instance, I don't know who the psychologist who helped "transition" my adult autistic son. This person should be held accountable, which to me means prison. Same for the so called physician who is prescribing drugs that are literally killing my son in an erroneous attempt correct what is actually a mental health issue that cannot be treated with drugs. The harm these people have done to my son and my family is immeasurable. I want justice.

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LovingMother's avatar

"What I see as a problem is that many of these groomers (typically masquerading as medical professionals) are impossible to find."

We should have a federal law against "Gender Affirming Care". Then, these heinous people could not practice in hospitals. There are zero health benefits to it. The US is already against FGM:

"The United States is committed to ending female genital mutilation or cutting (FGM/C). If you believe you are at risk of FGM/C, know of someone at risk of FGM/C, have questions about FGM/C, or have undergone FGM/C and need help or further information, please contact the number below.

What Is FGM/C?

The Department of State defines female genital mutilation and cutting (FGM/C) as all procedures involving partial or total removal of the external female genitalia, or other injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons. FGM/C is typically carried out on young girls between infancy and adolescence, and occasionally on adult women. FGM/C is a human rights abuse and form of violence against women and girls (VAWG). The practice has no health benefits and can lead to both immediate and long-term physical and mental health problems. It is estimated that FGM/C has affected more than 200 million women and girls alive today. The reasons for practicing FGM/C differ from region to region and include a mix of sociocultural factors within families and communities.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/fact-sheet-on-female-genital-mutilation-or-cutting.html

"Only 41 States currently have laws against FGM (updated as of August 2023)."

https://equalitynow.org/what-we-do/womens-rights-around-the-world/womens-rights-in-north-america/us_laws_against_fgm_state_by_state/

Note: 41 states have laws against FGM at any age. Far fewer states have laws against "GAC" even when it is only about little children.

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Runemasque's avatar

Jon Rappoport did a substack post about this as well.

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LovingMother's avatar

May I have the link, please? I don't know that name.

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LovingMother's avatar

I definitely agree about prison, including former HHS Richard/Rachael Levine. I want the harm to stop and I also want justice.

"GAC" should be thoroughly shutdown in the US, IMO. Anyone fed to it is vulnerable by definition so I think we should stop discussing at "what age" it is somehow acceptable "medicine". It is not proven to "help" anyone with what they really need - just what they demand or what a quack promotes to them. No other area of "medicine" operates that way.

Removing "GAC" from all insurance would help. It is way too easy and inexpensive.

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paleblue's avatar

Agree completely. The "adults can do whatever they wish" philosophy completely dismisses the harm to young adults and society in general.

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LovingMother's avatar

Yes. So long as "GAC" exists in our hospitals and is paid for by insurance, it will "need to be fed" vulnerable people - who are often young adults. It's $$$$.

And, yes, it is bad for society in a number of ways.

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GenderRealistMom's avatar

I agree but I think mocking is still kinder than affirming. If every teacher and parent just rolled their eyes and refused to participate, this youth subculture would stay as a little youth subculture, no different from goth. Adults poke fun at silly teen trends. It hurts teens' feelings, yes, but it also keeps them grounded a bit.

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AlexEsq's avatar

the teachers have to play along with "gender affirmation" because of state-level laws and policies. This is especially true in Blue states.

We need to work to change state laws and state educational policies. That's what controls what goes on in schools.

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Linda H's avatar

Yes, yes and yes! Every time a see a reel shared making fun of a vulnerable young person (some old as well) who has been massively deceived, I can’t help thinking, “I wonder if their parents are in one of the online groups I’m in.” My heart aches for them.

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