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Paul_'s avatar

It’s unfortunate that the WHO has conflated gender and gender identity in their statement. The social effects pertain to gender identity, as do the related stereotypes. Gender should pertain to biology.

Words that express gender identity are typically adjectives, such as manly, feminine, etc. What is considered appropriate to gender identity is mutable and can change with social norms, like hairstyles, fashion, sport activity or the lack there of, etc.

Does anyone think there’s a gene for preferring to wear a dress?

In the past 60 or so years, stereotypes for men and women have been socially changed drastically from what they were previously, and many have become gender neutral. Many current trans people are fixating on classic gender identity stereotypes.

Other than that conflation, I agree whole heartedly with those who see no biological (i.e. intrinsic) basis for people with otherwise normal bodies for one or the other sex (I.e. gender) to be transgender.

To me, it seems that true candidates for gender transitioning are likely physically androgynous or have serious mental illness that can only be appeased by physical transitioning.

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Jessica's avatar

Yes, exactly! They often do almost a caricature of stereotypes of gender identity.

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Jessica's avatar

I'm guessing you are one whonis currently making the caricature.

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Jessica's avatar

No, you are confused. I don't think you know what a caricature is. What you are describing are norms of a period, in a society or culture. That would be the stereotype. A caricature is when those norms are exaggerated.

Also, I've never said that the stereotype of a women "don't belong on men." I'm perfectly fine for any person to wear whatever they want. My issue is them claiming that that caricature of a stereotype of a woman then makes them a woman, thereby erasing women. My issue is with them then trying to force their belief on everyone else. My issue is them then grooming vulnerable, malleable, and unreasonable children with their belief.

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Ute Heggen's avatar

Jessica, I agree with you. Often kids who go through a period of cross-sex ideation come from family traditions of rigid sex roles, which the child can't find a place in. There are other paths, involving social media and our oversexed society, which are similar, in a way. I suggest you visit my blog,

uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com, for thoughts and reflections. My then husband did the surgery in 1996 and never seemed happy or healthy after, although he is a very wealthy COO of a tech company. Having this in your family is a long term stress and affects all of the relationships. It truly is like a death.

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LovingMother's avatar

I believe I've seen the KT troll on other sites. Having him appear here is probably a good sign that PITT is getting the word out about the harm being done to young people.

There is room in the world for all kinds of people, even the AGPs. No one here has a problem with KT enjoying his high heels. By all means, enjoy doing your own thing with your friends, sir. The problem is if you insist that the rest of the world agree with you that you are a "lesbian". Types like that are very aggressive and have no care for others. We can destigmatize fetishes but it is an antisocial mental illness to require all of society to indulge one's fetish.

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LovingMother's avatar

That said I'm glad he's banned now.

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LovingMother's avatar

There is no such thing as "cisgendered" outside of ideology.

I thought this guy was banned?

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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

Give me a clue - what are you talking about?

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LovingMother's avatar

KT is about as coherent as Gender Identity Ideology itself (g).

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Pearl Red Moon's avatar

so having declared heterosexuality redundant what is your solution to having the body with the small gamete getting to implant it into the body with the large gamete that also has the uterus and the ability to gestate a human fetus to term? Would you propose universal in vitro fertilisation into a class of female reproducers? Why do away with all the fun of sexual attraction, mating, partnering and nurturing families? The only other thing left to usefully occupy ourselves with would be working for the man.

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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

Ah, I see. You've either read a different article than the one here, or you've willfully misunderstood this one. To put it briefly, the basis of all mammalian life on this planet is two sexes who instinctively know which is male and which is female. Humans are mammals, so the basis applies here, too. There is nothing "learned" about heterosexuality. Why would you want to do away with it anyway?

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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

Biology requires an "instinctive sense of male and female". After breathing, eating and drinking, there's nothing more fundamental - or maybe you want to get rid of those instincts, too?

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LovingMother's avatar

This is the same troll we saw on "My New Identity, Not By Choice"

Comic relief?

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