The state of Minnesota used Child Protective Services to take my child away from me and place her in foster care - all because we wouldn’t affirm her trans identity.
Sick of this Solomon Ash experiment they are forcing us to play! This is such BS and these porn fueled male perverts can go to hell. We need laws protecting us from them!
The Asch conformity experiments, conducted in the 1950s by psychologist Solomon Asch, demonstrated the power of group pressure on individual judgment. In the famous line-judgment task, a real participant was placed in a group with actors (confederates) who unanimously and incorrectly identified the length of lines, leading the participant to conform to the wrong answer in a significant portion of trials. The experiments highlighted that people are often willing to deny their own perceptions to align with a majority, even when the correct answer is obvious, a phenomenon known as the Asch effect.
How the Experiment Worked
1. The Setup:
A real participant was seated in a room with several confederates, who were pretending to be other participants.
2. The Task:
Participants were shown a reference line and three other lines, then asked to identify which of the three lines was the same length as the reference line.
3. The Deception:
The real participant answered last, after hearing all the confederates give the same, incorrect answer.
4. The Pressure:
The goal was to see if the real participant would ignore their own correct judgment and conform to the wrong answer provided by the majority.
Key Findings
Conformity Rate:
On average, participants conformed to the incorrect group consensus about one-third of the time.
Vulnerability:
A high percentage (about 75%) of participants conformed to the wrong answer at least once.
Informational vs. Normative Influence:
Participants sometimes conformed because they doubted their own judgment (informational social influence) or because they wanted to be accepted and avoid conflict with the group (normative social influence).
Factors Influencing Conformity
Group Size:
Conformity increased with the size of the majority, but the effect leveled off after about four confederates.
Unanimity:
The presence of even one dissenting confederate (giving a different answer) significantly reduced the participant's tendency to conform.
Privacy:
When participants wrote their answers down privately rather than saying them aloud, the conformity rate dropped sharply.
Significance
The Asch experiments revealed the powerful influence of social pressure and the human tendency to conform, even when faced with clear evidence to the contrary. They raised questions about individual autonomy versus social cohesion and remain a fundamental illustration of group dynamics in psychology.
Just a reminder: in Minnesota, the therapy gag order (aka "conversion therapy ban) means therapists are forced to "affirm" gender confusion. Asking any type of skeptical question or cautious approach is illegal. This mom did GREAT!!!
THIS!!! 100%!! Thank you for your commitment to truth!! May many wonderful blessings fill your life here on out to soften the hurts inflicted by the trans ideology cult! I’m waiting for my granddaughter to come to the point of realization! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
"Not affirming is really, really hard at first, and you will feel like a failure as your child rails against you. But then, something clicks, and they settle down......"
I know exactly what it feels at first, so many tears, fear and grief, however, your experience gives me hope and I thank God for you having your beloved child back. Thank you for sharing.
Good for you for standing on the side of truth and not giving in. My son was an adult when this started, living out of state and he cut all financial ties. Unfortunately I haven’t heard from him in close to 4 years. Blocked on phone and social media. I do have a physical address and occasionally send a card without a name or pronoun.
I’m delighted that you have your daughter back. Hopefully, one day the people of Minnesota and other states will say enough to this drivel, and vote the enablers out. Until then, sadly, we’ll hear these stories over and over.
Great story! Great parents! Great kid! So sorry you all went through this, but it is so important to share, especially now that she is firmly standing on her own two feet.
Thank you for sharing this encouraging story! I'm a therapist & see firsthand how awful this experience is for families and parents. What you mention at the end, about treatment centers contributing to the brainwashing, is something that has been very frustrating for me. A few times I have wanted to suggest treatment centers for teens, and it was a very tough recommendation to make since most residential treatment centers, PHPs & IOPs are continuing to display all of that paraphernalia, and play the pronoun game. Ugh!
I wish there were more of us, but I’m hopeful that more therapists and other providers are waking up. Parents need to stay firm, & be very discerning when choosing a therapist. Try to avoid therapists who went through grad school the last 8 years.
Finally, some great news and a success story! So glad your daughter escaped the snare of the trans-cult. You were brave and smart not to affirm her, and you are strong (because of your love for her) not to give into the pressure. Parents are caught in a very difficult situation when they have a trans-confused child. Parents are threatened and manipulated, too. You wrote "It is not healthy to affirm mental illness as identity." This is the truth! Shame on anyone who thinks that affirmation is the right answer. It is NOT and NEVER will be. Whenever I think about all the people who affirmed my nephew (teachers, therapists, friends, and family members), I realize how angry I still feel because there has been no justice or accountability. My sister and her husband were adamant and never affirmed their son. I stood by their side, ready to fight anyone who wanted to beg to differ. We must all keep up this fight, stay strong, and not give in - EVER! Our children need to be kept safe and protected from all predators - which includes politicians. Tim Walz, the MN governor has blood on his hands, and he needs to be held accountable.
I know several desisters and detransitioners here in MN. Speaking out still remains a challenge but I hope they will soon be banding together to help and support the "trans" population in this "refuge state." I am hopefully anticipatiing the day we become the "refuge state" for those who have been deceived and harmed by this evil.
What a beautiful outcome for your daughter and your family. This story is an inspiration.
Anytime I speak up about the posting of flags or signs in any venue, I end up looking like a right winged bigot. I am neither of those things. My arguments are ignored because I am quickly written off as an extremist. I wish that we could come up with a better way to face this challenge.
I find the whole "right-winged bigot" accusation a red herring. IMO, this is just what the Left always does to delegitimize any opposition. It just knocks susceptible (unaware) people off their footing. And it needs to be met head-on and full-force.
YOU aren't the "irrational freak". I'm not even suggesting that attempts at rational dialogue with most trans proponents would prove fruitful. My point is that THEIR ideology is completely irrational, and that THEY need to be put on THEIR heels with calm, firm declarations of the truth (reality). None of this is coincidental. It is entirely intentional. The ground has been prepared for some time.
Basically what I'm saying is that if you buy the "right-winged bigotry" BS, then they have successfully split their opposition: sane, reality-based liberals and Democrats (who probably support women's sex-based rights), and the vast majority of conservatives and Republicans.
You have a legal right to visit your child while your child is in foster care. Also, if there is a law in NY that states that your parental rights can be terminated for not affirming gender identity, that law is unconstitutional. The NYU Law School has one of the best law programs in the country to help parents get their children back from foster care. I recommend you contact them.
Great piece especially in light of the Minneapolis killings. Thanks.
Have cross posted
https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/airplane-get-a-hold-of-yourself-part-895
Dusty
Sick of this Solomon Ash experiment they are forcing us to play! This is such BS and these porn fueled male perverts can go to hell. We need laws protecting us from them!
The Asch conformity experiments, conducted in the 1950s by psychologist Solomon Asch, demonstrated the power of group pressure on individual judgment. In the famous line-judgment task, a real participant was placed in a group with actors (confederates) who unanimously and incorrectly identified the length of lines, leading the participant to conform to the wrong answer in a significant portion of trials. The experiments highlighted that people are often willing to deny their own perceptions to align with a majority, even when the correct answer is obvious, a phenomenon known as the Asch effect.
How the Experiment Worked
1. The Setup:
A real participant was seated in a room with several confederates, who were pretending to be other participants.
2. The Task:
Participants were shown a reference line and three other lines, then asked to identify which of the three lines was the same length as the reference line.
3. The Deception:
The real participant answered last, after hearing all the confederates give the same, incorrect answer.
4. The Pressure:
The goal was to see if the real participant would ignore their own correct judgment and conform to the wrong answer provided by the majority.
Key Findings
Conformity Rate:
On average, participants conformed to the incorrect group consensus about one-third of the time.
Vulnerability:
A high percentage (about 75%) of participants conformed to the wrong answer at least once.
Informational vs. Normative Influence:
Participants sometimes conformed because they doubted their own judgment (informational social influence) or because they wanted to be accepted and avoid conflict with the group (normative social influence).
Factors Influencing Conformity
Group Size:
Conformity increased with the size of the majority, but the effect leveled off after about four confederates.
Unanimity:
The presence of even one dissenting confederate (giving a different answer) significantly reduced the participant's tendency to conform.
Privacy:
When participants wrote their answers down privately rather than saying them aloud, the conformity rate dropped sharply.
Significance
The Asch experiments revealed the powerful influence of social pressure and the human tendency to conform, even when faced with clear evidence to the contrary. They raised questions about individual autonomy versus social cohesion and remain a fundamental illustration of group dynamics in psychology.
Big fat NOPE
you people have lost your f***ing god damned minds
Not my kid
this is what i’m putting on a sign when i go to the APA conference in Denver
Great story. Thank you for posting it.
Your sentence about not affirming, then something clicks and they settle down resonated with me. It’s like a toddler fighting so hard not to sleep.
Just a reminder: in Minnesota, the therapy gag order (aka "conversion therapy ban) means therapists are forced to "affirm" gender confusion. Asking any type of skeptical question or cautious approach is illegal. This mom did GREAT!!!
THIS!!! 100%!! Thank you for your commitment to truth!! May many wonderful blessings fill your life here on out to soften the hurts inflicted by the trans ideology cult! I’m waiting for my granddaughter to come to the point of realization! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
"Not affirming is really, really hard at first, and you will feel like a failure as your child rails against you. But then, something clicks, and they settle down......"
I know exactly what it feels at first, so many tears, fear and grief, however, your experience gives me hope and I thank God for you having your beloved child back. Thank you for sharing.
Good for you for standing on the side of truth and not giving in. My son was an adult when this started, living out of state and he cut all financial ties. Unfortunately I haven’t heard from him in close to 4 years. Blocked on phone and social media. I do have a physical address and occasionally send a card without a name or pronoun.
I’m delighted that you have your daughter back. Hopefully, one day the people of Minnesota and other states will say enough to this drivel, and vote the enablers out. Until then, sadly, we’ll hear these stories over and over.
Great story! Great parents! Great kid! So sorry you all went through this, but it is so important to share, especially now that she is firmly standing on her own two feet.
I try so hard not to be as sweary as I used to be, but there is really great comfort in hearing someone just say it:
"They. . .don’t know what the fuck they are talking about."
Thank you for sharing this encouraging story! I'm a therapist & see firsthand how awful this experience is for families and parents. What you mention at the end, about treatment centers contributing to the brainwashing, is something that has been very frustrating for me. A few times I have wanted to suggest treatment centers for teens, and it was a very tough recommendation to make since most residential treatment centers, PHPs & IOPs are continuing to display all of that paraphernalia, and play the pronoun game. Ugh!
It's always encouraging hearing from therapists who understand the harm of affirmative care. Thanks for fighting the battle with us.
I wish there were more of us, but I’m hopeful that more therapists and other providers are waking up. Parents need to stay firm, & be very discerning when choosing a therapist. Try to avoid therapists who went through grad school the last 8 years.
That fits what I’ve been told by a professional in our area, “Don’t trust anyone who has graduated after 2015.”
This is so important thanks for sharing. We did not affirm either and so far detransitin
from our child. It’s very important to not give in to this cult.
Finally, some great news and a success story! So glad your daughter escaped the snare of the trans-cult. You were brave and smart not to affirm her, and you are strong (because of your love for her) not to give into the pressure. Parents are caught in a very difficult situation when they have a trans-confused child. Parents are threatened and manipulated, too. You wrote "It is not healthy to affirm mental illness as identity." This is the truth! Shame on anyone who thinks that affirmation is the right answer. It is NOT and NEVER will be. Whenever I think about all the people who affirmed my nephew (teachers, therapists, friends, and family members), I realize how angry I still feel because there has been no justice or accountability. My sister and her husband were adamant and never affirmed their son. I stood by their side, ready to fight anyone who wanted to beg to differ. We must all keep up this fight, stay strong, and not give in - EVER! Our children need to be kept safe and protected from all predators - which includes politicians. Tim Walz, the MN governor has blood on his hands, and he needs to be held accountable.
I know several desisters and detransitioners here in MN. Speaking out still remains a challenge but I hope they will soon be banding together to help and support the "trans" population in this "refuge state." I am hopefully anticipatiing the day we become the "refuge state" for those who have been deceived and harmed by this evil.
What a beautiful outcome for your daughter and your family. This story is an inspiration.
Anytime I speak up about the posting of flags or signs in any venue, I end up looking like a right winged bigot. I am neither of those things. My arguments are ignored because I am quickly written off as an extremist. I wish that we could come up with a better way to face this challenge.
I find the whole "right-winged bigot" accusation a red herring. IMO, this is just what the Left always does to delegitimize any opposition. It just knocks susceptible (unaware) people off their footing. And it needs to be met head-on and full-force.
How do you address it head on without making yourself look like a bigger irrational freak who shouldn’t be listened to?
YOU aren't the "irrational freak". I'm not even suggesting that attempts at rational dialogue with most trans proponents would prove fruitful. My point is that THEIR ideology is completely irrational, and that THEY need to be put on THEIR heels with calm, firm declarations of the truth (reality). None of this is coincidental. It is entirely intentional. The ground has been prepared for some time.
Basically what I'm saying is that if you buy the "right-winged bigotry" BS, then they have successfully split their opposition: sane, reality-based liberals and Democrats (who probably support women's sex-based rights), and the vast majority of conservatives and Republicans.
How did you get your child back from the state? Here in NY they will hide the location of the child and terminate parental rights.
You have a legal right to visit your child while your child is in foster care. Also, if there is a law in NY that states that your parental rights can be terminated for not affirming gender identity, that law is unconstitutional. The NYU Law School has one of the best law programs in the country to help parents get their children back from foster care. I recommend you contact them.