When Rachel Levine pressured WPATH to drop all age limits in their "Standards of Care" (should be Standards of Mutilation) and they did, and Biden came out with some weakly worded statement about it and didn't immediately fire Levine, I knew that the current administration wasn't going to do Jack Squat to protect kids. That was when the Rubicon was crossed for me and I realized the Dems had no backbone AND no common sense, a bad combination. I was a hard left Dem who lived in San Francisco for decades, but that destroyed any shred of hope I had for the Left.
Everyone alive today is the latest link in an unbroken chain of survivors. Survival cannibalism is just one form of cannibalism practiced universally in the deep past. Every one of us is descended from cannibals. I find this to be a comforting equality, actually.
I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment and almost the entire essay. I do want to point out that it is dangerous to say that this is the absolute right course for a small amount of people. If indeed there are people who are genuinely “trans,” then it follows that, at least for that group, transition is the right choice - and, if those people magically “know” they are “trans,” they might “know” at a young age and want to benefit from early interventions that will supposedly benefit them. Also, if .00015% of people are “trans,” why not 3.3%? Who says this phenomenon needs to be so rare?
Rather, I would argue that adults - mentally Healthy and fully mature - have the right to cosmetically alter their bodies at their own expense, as long as they are informed of the risks and unknowns and not told this is a medical treatment. For some who make that choice, they may live great lives and never regret their choices. But I can’t see this as inevitably the best decision for anyone.
Yes, I understand exactly what you're getting at. It's a very big and complex subject that I was trying to boil down into a couple of sentences. But what I'll say is that there are people, adults who understand the biological, medical, and sociological ramifications of "transitioning" and still choose this as the best path for them to take, and that we can't ignore those people or write them all off as lunatics. Sure, it shouldn't be taxpayer funded, but it's a real phenomena.
I would want to add that healthy and mature people have the right to alter their bodies at their own expense as long as and only if they acknowledge that they have not literally transformed themselves into the opposite sex and therefore cannot demand access to single-sex accommodations such as sports, prisons, shelters, locker rooms, bathrooms, sororities, etc. The fact that I don’t have to specify which sex I’m talking about underscores the point that women require single sex accommodations because of the superior size and strength of men and the risk of injury, rape or murder.
This prerequisite means that trans-identified men must acknowledge that their so-called gender identity is a social construct, not a literal transformation from the male to the female sex.
This is the sticking point. It’s essential and mandatory, and without it, the concept of freedom of choice and bodily autonomy rings hollow.
No, but there is a distinction to be made. While we might ultimately determine that the hormonal interventions and surgeries are as detrimental as lobotomies, as of this moment, I would say the results are questionable and ill advised, but, in at least the vast majority of cases, not so detrimental as to require a total ban. I’m willing to engage in the debate though.
As examples, several older transsexuals, like Buck Angel, are still able to function in society at a high level. I don’t think we could say the same of anyone who had a lobotomy - but perhaps you can convince me otherwise.
Yes, there are differences between lobotomies or having your arm or leg surgically removed, and "transitioning" to a "different gender". Something like this is neither wholly one thing or the other. I personally don't understand it and think it's a terrible idea, but am I willing to accept that there are people who have undergone these procedures as adults and years later seem to be satisfied.
Amen to this, biologyisreal. I almost think that age is irrelevant with a vulnerable population.
If a 50 year old wants to take his own money and spend it in Brazil, no one can stop him - but Enough! on American soil. And certainly Enough! for anyone under something like 40. Enough with "GAC" getting paid for by all of the insurance companies as if it were "medically necessary".
So long as it happens AT ALL in the US the Frankenstein Industrial Complex will only look to expand profits. On this one point I respectfully disagree with Beeswax who is primarily concerned with men in female spaces which is one of the problems for sure.
Buck Angel is a porn star I think? So she is making money on this?
Anyway, I find this maddening: "still able to function in society at a high level". According to Dr. Lisa Littman, the highest number of the trans identified are gifted - whether straight or gay. My daughter is intellectually gifted but not good in some other ways. She functions on the very highest levels in some regards and in some other ways it is nail-bitingly bad.
Teachers/community during high school were like "she must know" because she's smart???"
I 100% agree with this. I don't think anyone should be allowed to do this before age 25, and then only if they are totally mentally competent and realize that this is merely cosmetic, and doesn't turn them into the opposite sex, or give them the right to be treated as if they are the opposite sex.
Further, I don't think any doctor, therapist, etc. should be allowed to tell a patient that this is a medical treatment, that they are "trans" - meaning they inevitably must chemically and/or surgically alter their bodies to appear the opposite sex and must be treated and referred to as if they are the opposite sex in order to have any semblance of happiness or peace of mind and avoid torment and potential suicide. This is a big lie and malpractice.
Especially because the majority of 18-year-olds and up who are transitioning today have been indoctrinated into this false belief from a young age, it is particularly necessary to prevent any of this up through age 25 at least.
We need to change the entire narrative around this and make it clear that these extreme cosmetic alterations are dangerous and ill advised, and absolutely not inevitable for anyone.
Of course, society should never pay for these interventions.
I am just holding out, for now, on the idea of a total ban for mentally healthy adults age 25 and up if they are given the proper framing and information. Perhaps I can be persuaded that the "bottom surgeries" should be banned for all because, as far as I can tell, they are just pure mutilation. They go beyond even the most extreme cosmetic surgeries that are not related to this issue.
Again, I might be open to a total ban on all of it, but we will have to be clear that such a decision would be based on the determination that these interventions frequently or almost always result in a tremendous decrease in normal functioning. Do you think that is true?
" Bam!! Listening to this live I almost stood up and cheered out loud." Same here!!
"A lifelong medical patient beholden to Big Pharma who has screwed up their endocrine system so badly that they can't ever return to their “natural state” of being," So true and so heartbreaking to watch. My daughter is 3yrs on T and relying on a cane now. This is evil.
Question: Would it be appropriate to refer to the rate of trans in high schoolers as now "1 in 30" because it seems the argument of 'this is a miniscule number of people" is so prominant, and maybe 3.3% doesn't hit home for most people who are not affected by this. "1 in 30" kind of floors me; maybe it would make others think as well.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm usually good at math, but my brain is a little off after seeing my daughter using a cane to accept her degree this weekend.
Yes, 1 in 30 is right mathematically and probably makes a bigger impact. The people in favor of this barbarity aren't going to listen to anything our side says and probably think that "the more trans kids the better!" There's no getting through to them, they are in a cult.
Thank you. You're definitely right about that; nothing will change their minds. But the people I'm hoping to reach are the ones who simply don't care, who believe this is not really a big issue. So very frustrating to me, putting it lightly. They only know what mainstream media reports, and it just doesn't affect their lives bacause it hasn't hit their families. Surely the thought that 1 in 30 young people are suddenly affected by this might make them think. Maybe they will only believe it years from now when the documentaries are made about this horrific medical scandal.
When we contemplate the mysteries of how the pyramids were built, or the incredible architecture of the Tartarian Empire, the hidden and suppressed history as discussed by Jon Levi, question the "moon landing", the tyranny imposed by puppet politicians with fake pandemics and forced injections; the false idea that we are currently at the pinnacle of human development falls away. Transitioning children is proof, along with circumcision of children, that we are still superstitiously offering children for ritual blood sacrifice.
Pompeii is a great place to demonstrate how similar we really are to those who came before us. There are lots of recognizable things in Pompeii (fast food stands come to mind), but the one that really got me when I went there at 26 years old was this one:
When I saw that, it hit me like a voice in my head: "these people were just like me." I had a Beware of Dog sign next to my front door too. (Although it was a lie intended for burgulars, since my my dog was friendly.) But I stared at that ancient Roman "Beware of Dog" sign for about 20 minutes while all the illusions I had of how we were so much different and more enlightened and better than the ancients crumbled.
I am always intrigued by the "authentic self" statements. I believe we are always changing. Our 5-year-old authentic self is different than our 12-year-old vs 18-year-old. We are always changing, growing, and maturing. What we are now will not be who we are 20 years from now. This is a phrase my daughter is using and I am trying to figure out how to explain that her current trans identity isn't her "authentic self" and will change as we ages. Any thoughts?
Please let me know if you find anything that works. It is a belief system and it doesn't make any kind of sense. This is why I call it "Gnostic" - ie, the "real truth" is not what we see before us with our eyes but something hidden.
As for a bunch of synthetic testosterone helping to reveal the "real truth" - it makes no sense beyond the fact that they have way too much faith in "medicine". They are told this magic can be performed by pharma/doctors, that people can be this thing called "transgender" (not a "transexual" which we all understood as a person who did some sketchy things to themselves with sketchy doctors and was descriptive, not an inner truth), and they are young and don't ever imagine themselves being 30.
If the "real truth" is there anyway, why change the outward appearance? It will somehow make life "better"?
I do blame the schools, the pharmaceutical industry, therapists, physicians, and Obama/Obamacare.
It's not very "authentic" to let current societal whims dictate that because you happen to be a female "tomboy" or a more feminine male child, that there's something inherently wrong with you to the point you need to start doing medical interventions to more closely fit their stereotypical perceptions of what boys and girls are. These are regressive and dangerous ideas. That's the idea that I'd try to get across if possible.
Our biological reality is our "authentic self." Perceptions and feelings about ourselves change many times over a lifetime, biological bodies change as we age, but biological sex never changes.
It took me a while to come to this conclusion, but you're right. There are NO TRANS CHILDREN. Just ask anyone over the age of about 35 how many "trans children" they knew of when they were in elementary or high school. If they're being honest the answer is probably "Zero". Maybe several kids who later turned out to be gay, but nobody "trapped in the wrong body". Now 3% of school-age children identify as "trans"! Something very wrong is going on.
2020: "If you refuse to give your kids this experimental vaccine that we rushed through for a disease that we already know doesn't affect kids, you're a child abuser."
2023: "The CDC never forced anyone to take the vaccine or recommended keeping schools closed."
2023: "If you refuse to give your kids cross sex hormones to make their private parts whither away and sterilize them, you're a child abuser."
2025: "No one thinks girls should have to share locker rooms with boys."
Gee, I wonder why institutional trust has plummeted in the last 10 years?
I agree with the general gist of your comment but the CDC recommending COVID vaccines for children and medical professionals telling parents that their child is going to kill themself if they don't go on puberty blockers are two very different things. As far as I was aware no one accused parents not getting COVID vax for their children was called a "child abuser". It might have happened, the Left has some real lunatics, but I don't think that was a general attitude.
Gavin Newsome compared the unvaxxed to “drunk drivers” and kicked unvaxxed kids out of school. Netanyahu called the unvaxxed “the enemy.” Macron declared that his mission was to make life miserable for the unvaxxed. Trudeau (who called the unvaxxed “misogynists and racists” froze bank accounts of truckers who protested his COVID vax policies. And of course Joe Biden fired all federal workers and contractors who didn’t get a COVID shot (thereby opening the door to private businesses to do the same) and he started this mandate policy a month AFTER the CDC admitted the shots could not prevent spread of COVID. Polling of Democrats showed a disturbingly high percentage (around 20% or so if memory serves) felt that parents who wouldn’t put a COVID jab into their kids should lose custody and/or be put into camps. So technically you’re right…the main insults hurled at folks who didn’t inject themselves or their kids was not “child abuser.” It was far worse.
Sure, there was a lot of overheated rhetoric during COVID and I will NOT defend the lockdowns or the way trucker convoy supporters were treated. There were massive mistakes made and it's a big, very interesting topic that is seen better in hindsight. I knew several people with children who didn't get vaccinated and they faced some fairly mild societal pressures, but there were no CPS officials taking their children away. What I'm trying to say is that overheated rhetoric now, trying to relitigate the COVID response in 2025 and saying that anyone who didn't vaccinate their children were seen as child abusers, isn't really helping the "trans children" debate at this moment. They are two different things and the lunatics who are doing this stuff now don't need to be painted with the broad bush of the COVID response also. They are doing enough bad shit on their own and we should focus on that rather than lumping it all together. That's all, if you want to rehash the COVID response there are many places better suited to do that.
That's fair. I'm playing a little fast the loose the the terms. However, in NY for example, if you didn't vax your family in early 2021, you couldn't go to a sporting event, a bar, a restaurant, a grocery store, a concert. If you didn't COVID-vax your kids, you couldn't send them to school, most tutoring services, play sports, a public park, etc...
Although I will grant that CA trumped that when they legalized the seizing of children whose parents didn't want to lob their private parts off.
Yeah, there were def big, huge mistakes made during COVID, no doubt about that, but mostly that's apparent in hindsight. I see the "transing children" thing as a wholly different horrible beast of a problem. It's collusion, conspiracy, profiteering, and child abuse all rolled into one.
The sooner we put a stop to this horror ,the better,but how many more children and deluded young adults will be seriously harmed before that happens ? It's heartbreaking 💔 Thanks for the post x
Yes: "The side effects and possible complications from “gender affirming care” are so extensive and horrendous that it would take an entire book to unpack the whole subject. And even if everything goes “right” what are you left with? A lifelong medical patient beholden to Big Pharma who has screwed up their endocrine system so badly that they can't ever return to their “natural state” of being, as they desperately seek more drugs and more surgeries to affirm their undefinable sense of their “authentic self”. "
And yes: "maybe after having their puberty disrupted, and looking forward to a lifetime of subservience to Big Pharma and probably more surgeries, loss of fertility and sexual pleasure. Haven't they entered a kind of living-death netherworld?"
It is so hard to believe that so many think this is a progressive and wonderful direction for our "modern" world.
Rethinking our ancestors: The Mesmerizing Healing Frequency of Sound Part 9: Cymatic Architecture, Crystal Water, DNA Ciphers, Tartarian Cathedrals | Catharsis: https://substack.com/@tritorch/note/c-113994708
When Rachel Levine pressured WPATH to drop all age limits in their "Standards of Care" (should be Standards of Mutilation) and they did, and Biden came out with some weakly worded statement about it and didn't immediately fire Levine, I knew that the current administration wasn't going to do Jack Squat to protect kids. That was when the Rubicon was crossed for me and I realized the Dems had no backbone AND no common sense, a bad combination. I was a hard left Dem who lived in San Francisco for decades, but that destroyed any shred of hope I had for the Left.
Everyone alive today is the latest link in an unbroken chain of survivors. Survival cannibalism is just one form of cannibalism practiced universally in the deep past. Every one of us is descended from cannibals. I find this to be a comforting equality, actually.
This might be my favorite PITT essay of all time.
I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment and almost the entire essay. I do want to point out that it is dangerous to say that this is the absolute right course for a small amount of people. If indeed there are people who are genuinely “trans,” then it follows that, at least for that group, transition is the right choice - and, if those people magically “know” they are “trans,” they might “know” at a young age and want to benefit from early interventions that will supposedly benefit them. Also, if .00015% of people are “trans,” why not 3.3%? Who says this phenomenon needs to be so rare?
Rather, I would argue that adults - mentally Healthy and fully mature - have the right to cosmetically alter their bodies at their own expense, as long as they are informed of the risks and unknowns and not told this is a medical treatment. For some who make that choice, they may live great lives and never regret their choices. But I can’t see this as inevitably the best decision for anyone.
Yes, I understand exactly what you're getting at. It's a very big and complex subject that I was trying to boil down into a couple of sentences. But what I'll say is that there are people, adults who understand the biological, medical, and sociological ramifications of "transitioning" and still choose this as the best path for them to take, and that we can't ignore those people or write them all off as lunatics. Sure, it shouldn't be taxpayer funded, but it's a real phenomena.
I would want to add that healthy and mature people have the right to alter their bodies at their own expense as long as and only if they acknowledge that they have not literally transformed themselves into the opposite sex and therefore cannot demand access to single-sex accommodations such as sports, prisons, shelters, locker rooms, bathrooms, sororities, etc. The fact that I don’t have to specify which sex I’m talking about underscores the point that women require single sex accommodations because of the superior size and strength of men and the risk of injury, rape or murder.
This prerequisite means that trans-identified men must acknowledge that their so-called gender identity is a social construct, not a literal transformation from the male to the female sex.
This is the sticking point. It’s essential and mandatory, and without it, the concept of freedom of choice and bodily autonomy rings hollow.
Are you prepared to say lobotomies were ok for adults who knew what risks were etc.?
No, but there is a distinction to be made. While we might ultimately determine that the hormonal interventions and surgeries are as detrimental as lobotomies, as of this moment, I would say the results are questionable and ill advised, but, in at least the vast majority of cases, not so detrimental as to require a total ban. I’m willing to engage in the debate though.
As examples, several older transsexuals, like Buck Angel, are still able to function in society at a high level. I don’t think we could say the same of anyone who had a lobotomy - but perhaps you can convince me otherwise.
Yes, there are differences between lobotomies or having your arm or leg surgically removed, and "transitioning" to a "different gender". Something like this is neither wholly one thing or the other. I personally don't understand it and think it's a terrible idea, but am I willing to accept that there are people who have undergone these procedures as adults and years later seem to be satisfied.
Amen to this, biologyisreal. I almost think that age is irrelevant with a vulnerable population.
If a 50 year old wants to take his own money and spend it in Brazil, no one can stop him - but Enough! on American soil. And certainly Enough! for anyone under something like 40. Enough with "GAC" getting paid for by all of the insurance companies as if it were "medically necessary".
So long as it happens AT ALL in the US the Frankenstein Industrial Complex will only look to expand profits. On this one point I respectfully disagree with Beeswax who is primarily concerned with men in female spaces which is one of the problems for sure.
Buck Angel is a porn star I think? So she is making money on this?
Anyway, I find this maddening: "still able to function in society at a high level". According to Dr. Lisa Littman, the highest number of the trans identified are gifted - whether straight or gay. My daughter is intellectually gifted but not good in some other ways. She functions on the very highest levels in some regards and in some other ways it is nail-bitingly bad.
Teachers/community during high school were like "she must know" because she's smart???"
Yes, exactly. 100% right.
I 100% agree with this. I don't think anyone should be allowed to do this before age 25, and then only if they are totally mentally competent and realize that this is merely cosmetic, and doesn't turn them into the opposite sex, or give them the right to be treated as if they are the opposite sex.
Further, I don't think any doctor, therapist, etc. should be allowed to tell a patient that this is a medical treatment, that they are "trans" - meaning they inevitably must chemically and/or surgically alter their bodies to appear the opposite sex and must be treated and referred to as if they are the opposite sex in order to have any semblance of happiness or peace of mind and avoid torment and potential suicide. This is a big lie and malpractice.
Especially because the majority of 18-year-olds and up who are transitioning today have been indoctrinated into this false belief from a young age, it is particularly necessary to prevent any of this up through age 25 at least.
We need to change the entire narrative around this and make it clear that these extreme cosmetic alterations are dangerous and ill advised, and absolutely not inevitable for anyone.
Of course, society should never pay for these interventions.
I am just holding out, for now, on the idea of a total ban for mentally healthy adults age 25 and up if they are given the proper framing and information. Perhaps I can be persuaded that the "bottom surgeries" should be banned for all because, as far as I can tell, they are just pure mutilation. They go beyond even the most extreme cosmetic surgeries that are not related to this issue.
Again, I might be open to a total ban on all of it, but we will have to be clear that such a decision would be based on the determination that these interventions frequently or almost always result in a tremendous decrease in normal functioning. Do you think that is true?
" Bam!! Listening to this live I almost stood up and cheered out loud." Same here!!
"A lifelong medical patient beholden to Big Pharma who has screwed up their endocrine system so badly that they can't ever return to their “natural state” of being," So true and so heartbreaking to watch. My daughter is 3yrs on T and relying on a cane now. This is evil.
Question: Would it be appropriate to refer to the rate of trans in high schoolers as now "1 in 30" because it seems the argument of 'this is a miniscule number of people" is so prominant, and maybe 3.3% doesn't hit home for most people who are not affected by this. "1 in 30" kind of floors me; maybe it would make others think as well.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm usually good at math, but my brain is a little off after seeing my daughter using a cane to accept her degree this weekend.
Yes, 1 in 30 is right mathematically and probably makes a bigger impact. The people in favor of this barbarity aren't going to listen to anything our side says and probably think that "the more trans kids the better!" There's no getting through to them, they are in a cult.
Thank you. You're definitely right about that; nothing will change their minds. But the people I'm hoping to reach are the ones who simply don't care, who believe this is not really a big issue. So very frustrating to me, putting it lightly. They only know what mainstream media reports, and it just doesn't affect their lives bacause it hasn't hit their families. Surely the thought that 1 in 30 young people are suddenly affected by this might make them think. Maybe they will only believe it years from now when the documentaries are made about this horrific medical scandal.
Yes, I want to somehow punch those people in the nose with stats about what's really going on, but it's difficult to break through.
When we contemplate the mysteries of how the pyramids were built, or the incredible architecture of the Tartarian Empire, the hidden and suppressed history as discussed by Jon Levi, question the "moon landing", the tyranny imposed by puppet politicians with fake pandemics and forced injections; the false idea that we are currently at the pinnacle of human development falls away. Transitioning children is proof, along with circumcision of children, that we are still superstitiously offering children for ritual blood sacrifice.
Pompeii is a great place to demonstrate how similar we really are to those who came before us. There are lots of recognizable things in Pompeii (fast food stands come to mind), but the one that really got me when I went there at 26 years old was this one:
https://imperiumromanum.pl/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/cave-canem-na-wejsciu-do-domu-poety-tragicznego.jpg
When I saw that, it hit me like a voice in my head: "these people were just like me." I had a Beware of Dog sign next to my front door too. (Although it was a lie intended for burgulars, since my my dog was friendly.) But I stared at that ancient Roman "Beware of Dog" sign for about 20 minutes while all the illusions I had of how we were so much different and more enlightened and better than the ancients crumbled.
it is actually worse now, more efficient
I am always intrigued by the "authentic self" statements. I believe we are always changing. Our 5-year-old authentic self is different than our 12-year-old vs 18-year-old. We are always changing, growing, and maturing. What we are now will not be who we are 20 years from now. This is a phrase my daughter is using and I am trying to figure out how to explain that her current trans identity isn't her "authentic self" and will change as we ages. Any thoughts?
Please let me know if you find anything that works. It is a belief system and it doesn't make any kind of sense. This is why I call it "Gnostic" - ie, the "real truth" is not what we see before us with our eyes but something hidden.
As for a bunch of synthetic testosterone helping to reveal the "real truth" - it makes no sense beyond the fact that they have way too much faith in "medicine". They are told this magic can be performed by pharma/doctors, that people can be this thing called "transgender" (not a "transexual" which we all understood as a person who did some sketchy things to themselves with sketchy doctors and was descriptive, not an inner truth), and they are young and don't ever imagine themselves being 30.
If the "real truth" is there anyway, why change the outward appearance? It will somehow make life "better"?
I do blame the schools, the pharmaceutical industry, therapists, physicians, and Obama/Obamacare.
When he left office, President Eisenhower warned about more than the "military" industrial complex: https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address
It's not very "authentic" to let current societal whims dictate that because you happen to be a female "tomboy" or a more feminine male child, that there's something inherently wrong with you to the point you need to start doing medical interventions to more closely fit their stereotypical perceptions of what boys and girls are. These are regressive and dangerous ideas. That's the idea that I'd try to get across if possible.
Our biological reality is our "authentic self." Perceptions and feelings about ourselves change many times over a lifetime, biological bodies change as we age, but biological sex never changes.
There is no such thing as trans children. There’s only parents with a mental health problem and the groomers in school.
It took me a while to come to this conclusion, but you're right. There are NO TRANS CHILDREN. Just ask anyone over the age of about 35 how many "trans children" they knew of when they were in elementary or high school. If they're being honest the answer is probably "Zero". Maybe several kids who later turned out to be gay, but nobody "trapped in the wrong body". Now 3% of school-age children identify as "trans"! Something very wrong is going on.
I might me more sympathetic to the idea that the state shouldn't interfere in medical decisions, if I hadn't recently watched the state interfere in:
1. Doctors prescribing ivermectin and other approved drugs
2. Giving hospitals huge bonuses for any patients that may have covid and even bigger bonuses for putting them on ventilators - a very bad therapy.
3. Rules that all government contractors had to have the experimental vaccine.
2020: "If you refuse to give your kids this experimental vaccine that we rushed through for a disease that we already know doesn't affect kids, you're a child abuser."
2023: "The CDC never forced anyone to take the vaccine or recommended keeping schools closed."
2023: "If you refuse to give your kids cross sex hormones to make their private parts whither away and sterilize them, you're a child abuser."
2025: "No one thinks girls should have to share locker rooms with boys."
Gee, I wonder why institutional trust has plummeted in the last 10 years?
I agree with the general gist of your comment but the CDC recommending COVID vaccines for children and medical professionals telling parents that their child is going to kill themself if they don't go on puberty blockers are two very different things. As far as I was aware no one accused parents not getting COVID vax for their children was called a "child abuser". It might have happened, the Left has some real lunatics, but I don't think that was a general attitude.
Gavin Newsome compared the unvaxxed to “drunk drivers” and kicked unvaxxed kids out of school. Netanyahu called the unvaxxed “the enemy.” Macron declared that his mission was to make life miserable for the unvaxxed. Trudeau (who called the unvaxxed “misogynists and racists” froze bank accounts of truckers who protested his COVID vax policies. And of course Joe Biden fired all federal workers and contractors who didn’t get a COVID shot (thereby opening the door to private businesses to do the same) and he started this mandate policy a month AFTER the CDC admitted the shots could not prevent spread of COVID. Polling of Democrats showed a disturbingly high percentage (around 20% or so if memory serves) felt that parents who wouldn’t put a COVID jab into their kids should lose custody and/or be put into camps. So technically you’re right…the main insults hurled at folks who didn’t inject themselves or their kids was not “child abuser.” It was far worse.
Sure, there was a lot of overheated rhetoric during COVID and I will NOT defend the lockdowns or the way trucker convoy supporters were treated. There were massive mistakes made and it's a big, very interesting topic that is seen better in hindsight. I knew several people with children who didn't get vaccinated and they faced some fairly mild societal pressures, but there were no CPS officials taking their children away. What I'm trying to say is that overheated rhetoric now, trying to relitigate the COVID response in 2025 and saying that anyone who didn't vaccinate their children were seen as child abusers, isn't really helping the "trans children" debate at this moment. They are two different things and the lunatics who are doing this stuff now don't need to be painted with the broad bush of the COVID response also. They are doing enough bad shit on their own and we should focus on that rather than lumping it all together. That's all, if you want to rehash the COVID response there are many places better suited to do that.
That's fair. I'm playing a little fast the loose the the terms. However, in NY for example, if you didn't vax your family in early 2021, you couldn't go to a sporting event, a bar, a restaurant, a grocery store, a concert. If you didn't COVID-vax your kids, you couldn't send them to school, most tutoring services, play sports, a public park, etc...
Although I will grant that CA trumped that when they legalized the seizing of children whose parents didn't want to lob their private parts off.
Yeah, there were def big, huge mistakes made during COVID, no doubt about that, but mostly that's apparent in hindsight. I see the "transing children" thing as a wholly different horrible beast of a problem. It's collusion, conspiracy, profiteering, and child abuse all rolled into one.
medical system is seriously messed up
The sooner we put a stop to this horror ,the better,but how many more children and deluded young adults will be seriously harmed before that happens ? It's heartbreaking 💔 Thanks for the post x
Yes: "The side effects and possible complications from “gender affirming care” are so extensive and horrendous that it would take an entire book to unpack the whole subject. And even if everything goes “right” what are you left with? A lifelong medical patient beholden to Big Pharma who has screwed up their endocrine system so badly that they can't ever return to their “natural state” of being, as they desperately seek more drugs and more surgeries to affirm their undefinable sense of their “authentic self”. "
And yes: "maybe after having their puberty disrupted, and looking forward to a lifetime of subservience to Big Pharma and probably more surgeries, loss of fertility and sexual pleasure. Haven't they entered a kind of living-death netherworld?"
It is so hard to believe that so many think this is a progressive and wonderful direction for our "modern" world.
The immediate way forward is to form parallel societies that will eventually end the empire of lies and profits.
Rethinking our ancestors: The Mesmerizing Healing Frequency of Sound Part 9: Cymatic Architecture, Crystal Water, DNA Ciphers, Tartarian Cathedrals | Catharsis: https://substack.com/@tritorch/note/c-113994708