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LovingMother's avatar

I looked at https://bprice.substack.com/p/tiktok-tics-and-mass-sociogenic-illness

"Although sociogenic illnesses typically include physical symptoms—not just beliefs—some parallels with the current explosion in trans identification among teens and young adults are undeniable" My observation is that trans identification occurring in schools does include physical symptoms. My daughter started holding her face in the weirdest frozen sort of way which I think in some way mirrored her odd boyfriend at the time (she's straight and thought she was a gay male at the time) and she started holding her body in a gay male way. The girl down the street appeared to mimic straight men (though she must have been an anorexic 70 pound short thing). I thought my daughter's facial expressions where intentional but now as they have mostly melted away I don't think they were. They return from time to time but if you get her engaged in anything or just start talking about something they disappear.

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The 21st Century Salonnière's avatar

I'm not surprised to hear that some kids have physical and not just emotional manifestations of this.

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LovingMother's avatar

I thought it was so silly but not even the biology teacher would laugh at the idea that my daughter might be a gay boy. They all affirmed which had a terrible impact on her not the least of which was to make her loving parents the bad guys.

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The 21st Century Salonnière's avatar

That's what is so crazy making. The biology teacher probably (hopefully?) knew better, but everyone's afraid to speak to be "the bad guys" -- of course, if you're a loving parent, you have to risk being the bad guy because your child's well-being is more important than anything someone might think about you. At the same time, it's really hard when the entire culture has shifted to view basic biology as crazy and bigoted.

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LovingMother's avatar

And, what is a poor girl to think at a time when she is separating out from parents - and teachers are respected? I think the problem starts with peers but the adults in the room are not adults.

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The 21st Century Salonnière's avatar

It's a problem. It's not a surprise that the kids believe whatever their entire peer group, media, schools, doctors, mental health community is telling them...versus what a parent might be saying.

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LovingMother's avatar

Right. And, it comes at the age when girls are differentiating from the mother. Before this she was soooooo close to me and even shared my mannerisms. People would remark on it. Then the bomb drops.

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The 21st Century Salonnière's avatar

Yes, part of the problem is this is often happening at an age where it's appropriate for kids to start separating from their parents and becoming more of their own person -- so it's unfortunate that this becomes the way they've often found to do it.

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LovingMother's avatar

Yes, he's a very educated guy teaching at a private high school. It's very stressful for a parent to be hit with anti-reality on all fronts - especially if you had no idea the world had been turned upside down. I still don't think many people understand how far this has gone.

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