I hear over and over mother's wanting to "protect" their sons. Ladies let go! Young men need adventure and if you overprotect (which I sense is happening) you will be part of the problem not the solution. I'm not a big Jordon Peterson fan but I do think he has this part of right. Any ideas that will bring out an adventurous alternative for our boys is a good idea. Let them become men and let them go !!!! They are making a decision that they feel they have control of so you have to let them have agency in some new and alternative way ...like leaving a cocoon of Christianity which is really just false hope. Life on Christ's terms is risk taking and that is why they are substituting this fake risk which is just the emperor's new clothes. Don't get me wrong I am a follower of Christ but we need a new level of discernment to navigate these deep waters.
I am a Christian mom as well. I had our son at age 40. Reading your story is another cut in the history of the enemy winning at a scheme. But our Lord has won the battle and the story is not over. Excuse my butting in with advise but it seems to me (though quite counterintuitive) that allowing him to go to a different school may bring the tension down in the family. Pray, pray, pray and fast for direction! Our son is still visiting us and he never lost his love of learning but he was not in a Christian school. I have learned thru those who have sons who are much older than my 27 year old that Christian schools can do more harm than good if it 's a very dogmatic place. What you can aim for is reducing stress and let God do the saving.
Ditto on all this except mine is 20 and has been on hormones for 2 years. I have never hated anything more than those who fed my son lies. God have mercy on us and may he open our children's eyes to all the deceit.
I'm an agnostic theist with a 14-year-old that identifies as the opposite sex.
The brutality and the suffering is in the seemingly incompatible choices of either accepting everything that your child says and accepting all the gender affirming care stuff, or in rejecting that and therefore possibly breaking the relationship with your child.
The only thing that seems certain is that suffering is guaranteed.
But I do have a choice and how I choose the suffering.
My choice is driven by two values that I serve. Number one my relationship with my child must be strong and must be strengthening and must be growing and change in over time as my child grows up and as I age and become a different parent from the experience of raising children that are getting older. Number two is my commitment to My child having a healthy body. It's rooted in my value of bio essentialism.
And from here my battle is not one giant hill, but rather a battle of a thousand hills. Some of these hills I'm not willing to have My relationship with my child die on. And some of them I am.
It's an asymmetrical type of warfare that I found my child appreciates. I don't fit into a anti-trans/transphobic parent role. Nor do I fit in to a gender affirming care parent.
For example early on when I was a full democratic voting lefty and my child announced there transness/gender fluidity, I affirmed cuz that's what my tribe does. He asked that I use his new male pronouns and I agreed. 3 years later I wonder if I would have made the same decision Knowing what I know now. Pronouns to him are important it's important that I tell him he's my son. I have chosen not to die on this hill. But I will fight that there is an essential biological reality about him being a producer of large gametes. So I say " Trump was right with his executive order saying that there's only two sex classes"
I think at first he didn't know what to do. He wanted to shift into a binary of where Dad is the bad guy and everything dad says is wrong and dad doesn't understand all the usual stuff about raising a teenager.
But what I found is that I have a very principled path and plan not 100%, but mostly that guides the conversations I have with him and the beliefs that I have that I am willing to lay down the law on.
And now he sees that I do and then I'm not crazy or mean or evil. And he still has beliefs that I don't share.
But we are close.
When Charlie Kirk got assassinated I picked him up from school and he was celebrating. As an agnostic theist who really didn't know much about Charlie Kirk other than that he was Christian and pretty much what leftist said he was, it was still remarkably easy to tell him " it is not okay to celebrate the murder of another human being"
He pushed back with the leftist talking points "well Dad he was out to end us so I'm glad he's gone."
So we went home and pulled up some of Charlie Kirk's content. For about an hour you watch different stuff. I reiterated that I was wrong to be listening to stuff and believing things that would lead people that dehuman so much that they would celebrate their death. I showed him there was no transgenocide coming from Charlie Kirk's mouth.
On his own he watched the actual murder of Charlie Kirk.
He came to me later and told me he was wrong and that Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die. He said Dad I still don't like a lot of the things he said but to have him die like that in front of his family is not okay.
Then we sat down and talked for about an hour about his plans to medically transition when he's 18. And I told him about why I didn't think that was a great idea.
Yes I use his pronouns. But no I will not have him fall victim to radicalization whether it's coming from the right or the left. In my house the danger is that it comes from the left.
For the first time I felt blessed not just to have this child in my life but the fact that he identifies as trans. I get to be on this journey. I get to be the one to guide him and be the one to help him avoid destroying his body through medicalization based on a TikTok generated social contagion.
My daughter said to me in a dark tone, with a grave uncanny face: "I don't believe in God".
Three days later she had me arrested after ensuring I was in bed. I was supposed to have committed a hate crime of transphobia. I wasn't charged because the police proved to be fairly intelligent.
And then the bullying went on. And on. I no longer love her, whether or not she is schizophrenic, whether or not she is a psychopath. Nor does her once so close a brother of hers.
I am an anti-trans gay man. I want to say something to help, but I’m not sure what. Sharing my religious beliefs because they are so positive, is the best thing I can think of.
Part of the problem with your son may be the Christian environment of your home. Christianity is an uncompromising religion. The Bible essentially says that a majority of people will be damned on judgement day. However, anyone who studies religion knows that all the major religions were devised by human beings, and that most of them are designed to keep unruly populations in check.
There is no evidence that the Bible is the word of God — indeed, there is plenty of evidence that it has many authors. My quest has been to find God through a study of compassionate metaphysical sources. I started with the Edgar Cayce readings, and I continued with the Seth Material (Seth was the soul or spirit who was channelled by the trance medium Jane Roberts, who lived in upstate New York and died in 1984). Both Cayce and Seth said that we reincarnate. It is only during our reincarnational lives that we take biological form. For some reason that I haven’t uncovered yet, physical form allows us to grow and learn more readily than the spiritual form we take in the afterlife.
In addition to those sources, I have also studied near-death experiences (NDEs), the richest source of information of all. Many near-death experiencers (NDErs) have remembered past lives while they were having their NDE, so NDEs confirm the existence of reincarnation.
Lastly, I recently discovered the books of Swedenborg, who lived about 200 years ago. Swedenborg claimed that he was able to travel into the afterlife without dying or nearly dying (probably in his astral body), and he published what he learned in several books. Swedenborg was a Christian, but he interpreted the Bible symbolically.
Now, before I launch into a discussion of what I’ve learned, let me point out that the Bible disapproves of homosexuality. Your boy may be a homosexual. He may have swallowed the idea from transgender activists that being gay means he has the “gender identity” of a woman. Believing that he is a woman at heart may be easier than accepting his gayness. If your boy has ever talked about his sexuality, and if I am right, you absolutely must not shame him for his gay feelings.
The Bible, of course, is wrong on homosexuality. The ancient Jews were opposed to it probably because it dampened population growth. God does not disapprove of homosexuality, or judge people for it. My estimate is that about 8% of all men are gay, so this is a large community. It is much better for your son to accept himself as a gay man than a woman because gay men do not medicalize themselves, and the community is large enough for him to make friends. Unfortunately, most gay people are pro-trans. If you don’t like the idea of your son being gay, then be comforted by the fact that he will choose to be heterosexual in most of his reincarnational lives.
My studies of the various metaphysical sources have painted a pretty clear picture of God and the afterlife. God exists and is the source of all life. God is the embodiment of Love and does not judge anyone. Reality as we know it formed in God’s imagination during God’s formative period. We are, in fact, part of God — sort of like cells in God’s body (though God doesn’t have a physical body). God is our “highest self”.
Swedenborg said there are multiple heavens and hells. The hells are not designed for punishment. Rather, those people who cannot let go of their self-centered egotism (Trump comes to mind) end up in one of the hells, which are designed to make them as comfortable as possible. God does not abandon the sinners.
So let’s put your son’s life in context. First, he is immortal. He has most likely reincarnated before, and most likely will reincarnate again. If some of those lives are failures, or devoted to bad ideas, that just means they were intense learning experiences. He will depart his “failed” lives with greater wisdom. The likelihood is that he is reincarnating with a soul group. Members of this group may trade places from one life to the next. Thus, you are his parent in this life, but he may be your parent in another life, or a sibling, etc. My point about the soul group is that he is not alone in his lives, but surrounded by friends, even if it doesn’t appear so. Eventually he will learn all that he can learn from reincarnation, and he will take up permanent residence in one of the heavens.
I still haven’t given you much advice. I will say this: Make sure he understands that the medical treatments that trans people get are just cosmetic, and that they won’t change his male body to female. These altered bodies also require constant maintenance, and that can be a drag.
Also if you are wrong about "God doesn't judge anyone". I don't think that God can do any justice in this wicked world therefore your god concept is inept at the least and evil at the worst. Who does that sound like: a concept disguised as an angel of light.
Curious comments. My intention is always to help. If you don't understand the contexts within which you exist -- and most people don't -- you can't help yourself.
do not let him go to college until, if he becomes secure in himself and his identity, as a male. keep him home have him get a job, or try trade school. college/university will be the end of your son, and you will have a “daughter” instead.
You can still save him because you spotted the problem while he is still under your roof.
You have to be ruthless, but with a gentle hand. Computers gone. TV gone. No more girls’ clothes. Be the iron curtain between your home and anything LGBT.
No therapists!!!
He will push back and threaten you that he will leave or even report you to authorities. That is a risk you have to take. This is your only chance.
I have only the benefit of hindsight and utter misery because I missed that chance with my son and he is now head to toe de-sexed and corrupted one of his sisters to cover up his acts. He hates us now.
We hemmed and hawed and believed the psychiatrists and look where it got us. Do not make the same mistake.
The West’s acceptance of transgenderism and its ravages on the family did not appear in a big bang. It developed in stages through the generations which favored religious indifferentism, sentimental theology, and rejection of Christian morals.
You may disagree with my assessment, but it is not knee-jerk. It is based on 10 years of trial and error, torment, prayer, and withering merciless abuse from advocates, outsiders and malpracticing psychologists.
I have read enough Scripture to know that Jesus showed mercy on the repentant. Not so much on the proud sinners. Also note that Jesus warned about hell more than anybody:
Matt 5:29; Matt 6:14-15; Matt 7:13; Matt 10:28; Matt 11:23; Matt 12:36; Matt 13: 24-30, etc.
Good time rock ‘n’ roll does not earn eternal life.
Once you've followed this kind of advise your son will want trans identity so bad you will have lost the battle. This is knee-jerk reaction to the other pendulum of affirming! Neither work out for the best. Let him develop some agency or you'll loose him...not on every front but look for good overcoming evil not control and power overcoming identity...he needs to affirm his real identity thru masculine affirmation so guard this and promote this kind of activity. The kind of tactic that this person is advocating doesn't work at all with teens and young adults ...it's a child rearing tactic but too late for the older transitions. I have had conversation with parents on this site who did this and it backfired . These are not little children but budding adults. Give them some credit or you'll loose all the respect you are trying to get through by force. Read the Gospels. See how Jesus handled people. Not using force except the force of truth joined with love.
I empathize with what you’re going through, and I’m sorry that you’re experiencing what you are. Our children unfortunately will be left to their own devices, as that is the way of western culture. I don’t say that to be callous, I say that because there is quite literally nothing we can do. 2 days after my family warmly and heartily celebrated my daughter’s 20th birthday, she moved out and ghosted everyone in her family except me. Why not me? So she could say the things your son said to you just before she also extricated me from her life.
This won’t be the case forever, but for right now, any hopes of driving back this ideology rests with parents willing to vote for candidates that oppose this ideology. This more or less excludes democrats. Our children deserved better than what they got from American culture. The left got handed cultural influence on a platter and used the Trojan Horse of empathy and tolerance to create androgynous soldiers that will perpetuate the culture that corrupted them.
Perhaps it’s debatable whether or not we can save the children and young adults afflicted by this mind virus, but I don’t want this happening to more children, so I intend to fight any way I can- legally, culturally,and emotionally. I suggest everyone worried about the damage being done do the same.
I wouldn't exclude Democrats from getting anyone's vote. First, not all Democrats are full-on supporters of transgenderism. I certainly am not. And let's not forget that the Republican party is the party of the Orange Lunatic. Among Democrats, there is an altruistic seed to their wokism. Among Republicans, there is no altruistic seed anywhere to be found in the entire party. They are the party of racism and selfishness. Democrats are still right on most issues.
I can't believe you are comparing racism to the cult of transgender ideology you vote democrat you belong to the cult simply as that how sad that you don't understand our pain
Deportations are nothing compared to the damage your party is doing to our children, teenagers and young adults. Colleages brainwashed our kids and turned them against their parents, counselors tell our kids " you are trans we'll put you on blockers and estrogen and you will be happily ever after no don't worry no side effects only your happiness and your own self and no no repercussions and yes we can shop off your breast to make you a man or your dick off to make you a woman yes🤑🤑??"
If Biden and the Democrats hadn’t stolen the election, I honestly believe we would not all be suffering from our kids having these trans delusions. DOGE uncovered millions of dollars pumped into furthering trans ideology. I’m so grateful for Donald Trump and his willingness to fight against the trans agenda - he may not be perfect, but I’m super grateful he’s on our side of this issue. As far as gay men hating Trump, I suggest you research Dave Rubin and Brandon Straka who are both gay men.
you are reading off a propaganda script. you just sound crazy. calling half the population of the us racist is just dumb and why that word has lost all meaning. democrats birthed this trans ideology and have been giving it life since then. you won’t find one republican grooming kids, they are all dems. truth hurts and you need to own it before you can expect to heal and stop this madness.
Oh, are Democrats also responsible for the common cold? Democrats have nothing to do with transgenderism. It came from trans people, mostly men with autogynephilia. To Democrats, what trans people were saying made sense. It never made sense to me, so I don't support it.
You know, the partisanship of you, Truth Advocator (ha) and Jake just shows that you have been brainwashed by Trump. Trump is a con men. Conning weak-minded people is what he does. Right now he's doing everything he can to destroy the norms that have governed America since the beginning. I hope for all of us that he doesn't succeed. That you can't see that he is abnormal and destructive is pathetic.
i don’t support either party. they are both corrupt and do not represent common people, but are bought and paid for by corporations the trillionaire monsters who really run the world. the dems are just next level brainwashed and stupid. republicans are at least against the most basic crime of tranzing kids which is a favorite activity of the dem party. if you are a dem you are just a brain dead evil zombie and you are complicit in the trans nightmare that we are all living in now. blocked and don’t care to waste any more time listening to your pathetic attempt at rationalizing your crimes against humanity.
The orange lunatic is ending the madness in institutions. Something the democrats you value so much won’t go near. He’s not my favorite either, but mealy-mouthed, weak ass beta sentiments like yours will ensure stories like the ones expressed in this thread will recur over and over again. No thanks. I will continue to proselytize that no one vote Democrat until they can prove to me that they’re no longer worthy of my vituperative perspective. You included.
The orange lunatic is just acting like a lunatic. Look at what he did when he first took office -- firing large portions of each federal department, without even checking to see who should be fired? Where Trump is concerned, you have nothing to stand on. He is a capricious monster. He is more concerned with his public image than actually improving government. He is a generator of chaos. So the Democrats signed on to some bad "woke" ideas. At least they were trying to help what they saw as vulnerable people.
The majority of the world has no idea what is REALLY going on. I don't like to read but if I did I would read the book I have called "The Midnight Rider Rides again" and the second version of that book. It lays out the whole situation in laws and orders. The fact is this is a well organized plan that has been going on for many many years. Some very interesting information can be found at stopworldcontrol.com. The docuseries "Fall of the Cabal" and the sequel is very informative. It is biblical....prophecy being fulfilled...and people will hopefully very soon see what exactly I am talking about...because I really don't know any details I just know that something huge is coming and the wicked will be gone....those that have done this to our children and even worse things to other children. God is in control and the world will soon see who He really is...as in Habakkuk 2:14!
My precious daughter was an IVF baby and now identifies as a male and is doubtless infertile. Caught in the not liking her own body phase during puberty that so many people go through, and persuaded there was a 'cure'. The school (a private Lutheran school) did not even tell us and she changed gender on her birth certificate as soon as she turned 18 (no evidence or counselling necessary in Australia), while still at school. So there was no opportunity to even talk to her and was told that her family would reject her if she tried.
It is quite astonishing that teachers, of all people, have become the enemy of good sense and are spreading the false notions of transgenderism all over the place. It is not the role of teachers to influence children in such a way.
We have much in common. Our beloved son was born after much pain, prayer and medical treatments during 10 years of infertility. We are strong believers, he was raised in the church, we prayed every night together, he made a declaration of faith and was baptized. When we received a text on his 19th birthday from his first year in college saying “I’m transgender“, our world changed.
The first thing we told him was that we would always love him, that he would always be welcome in our home as part of our family, but we did not agree, and did not support any transition. We were at an advantage, since he had no money, and he was wholly dependent on us financially. He grew his hair long, shaved his legs and arms, and always wore long pants, even in summer. We spent about 2 years withstanding his misery, anger, rage, and hatefulness.
I remember one conversation during a drive in the car (where we both stared straight ahead and he couldn’t leave). I told him that I was attracted to his father precisely because he was not the stereotypical macho male. He was intelligent, artistic, creative, sensitive and handsome, just like him. I pointed out that just because he had those qualities did not make him feminine (which he never was), much less trans. I wanted him to understand that there is a whole spectrum of masculinity, and just because he felt he didn’t fit the mold of toxic masculinity, didn’t mean he wasn’t fully male.
After a series of events which included many more difficult conversations with him, constant prayer, his semester abroad in a different country and a direct confrontation about estrogen pills we found in his room (which he handed over to us), he desisted. When I asked him if he rejected the ideology, he said “Yes, I reject it”. When I asked why he’d thought he was trans, he said “Because I was a stupid teenager”.
In some ways, I am still haunted by the experience, but we rejoice to see him maturing and embracing himself. He is still a bit awkward and a loner - we are pretty sure he is on the spectrum. But he takes care of his body through eating well and exercising, has his own creative pursuits, and is in graduate school. I still read PITT and feel for everyone as well as pray for God to open the eyes of our beloved children. Everyone’s path will be different, but I hope some of my story might shed light and give hope to others.
You have the wisdom that the Bible teaches! Way to go Mom!! Making a reasoned argument is definitely a way to go as the male mind does accept logic and can make a
reasoned response like your son did. Leading with love is the way I did it and my 27 year old son still visits his parents every weekend and knows he is loved. We are not through it but he is functioning with a good career and respect for his parents. Get some wins while you can. This is the way to go.
For anyone who wants Christian support, I highly recommend Help4families.org. I'm in a Tuesday Bible study with Christian moms going through the trials of having LGBTQ kids. My kid is 17 but all of theirs are adults and some have been cut off. This group is safe and healing. You're not alone!
I hear over and over mother's wanting to "protect" their sons. Ladies let go! Young men need adventure and if you overprotect (which I sense is happening) you will be part of the problem not the solution. I'm not a big Jordon Peterson fan but I do think he has this part of right. Any ideas that will bring out an adventurous alternative for our boys is a good idea. Let them become men and let them go !!!! They are making a decision that they feel they have control of so you have to let them have agency in some new and alternative way ...like leaving a cocoon of Christianity which is really just false hope. Life on Christ's terms is risk taking and that is why they are substituting this fake risk which is just the emperor's new clothes. Don't get me wrong I am a follower of Christ but we need a new level of discernment to navigate these deep waters.
I am a Christian mom as well. I had our son at age 40. Reading your story is another cut in the history of the enemy winning at a scheme. But our Lord has won the battle and the story is not over. Excuse my butting in with advise but it seems to me (though quite counterintuitive) that allowing him to go to a different school may bring the tension down in the family. Pray, pray, pray and fast for direction! Our son is still visiting us and he never lost his love of learning but he was not in a Christian school. I have learned thru those who have sons who are much older than my 27 year old that Christian schools can do more harm than good if it 's a very dogmatic place. What you can aim for is reducing stress and let God do the saving.
Ditto on all this except mine is 20 and has been on hormones for 2 years. I have never hated anything more than those who fed my son lies. God have mercy on us and may he open our children's eyes to all the deceit.
I'm an agnostic theist with a 14-year-old that identifies as the opposite sex.
The brutality and the suffering is in the seemingly incompatible choices of either accepting everything that your child says and accepting all the gender affirming care stuff, or in rejecting that and therefore possibly breaking the relationship with your child.
The only thing that seems certain is that suffering is guaranteed.
But I do have a choice and how I choose the suffering.
My choice is driven by two values that I serve. Number one my relationship with my child must be strong and must be strengthening and must be growing and change in over time as my child grows up and as I age and become a different parent from the experience of raising children that are getting older. Number two is my commitment to My child having a healthy body. It's rooted in my value of bio essentialism.
And from here my battle is not one giant hill, but rather a battle of a thousand hills. Some of these hills I'm not willing to have My relationship with my child die on. And some of them I am.
It's an asymmetrical type of warfare that I found my child appreciates. I don't fit into a anti-trans/transphobic parent role. Nor do I fit in to a gender affirming care parent.
For example early on when I was a full democratic voting lefty and my child announced there transness/gender fluidity, I affirmed cuz that's what my tribe does. He asked that I use his new male pronouns and I agreed. 3 years later I wonder if I would have made the same decision Knowing what I know now. Pronouns to him are important it's important that I tell him he's my son. I have chosen not to die on this hill. But I will fight that there is an essential biological reality about him being a producer of large gametes. So I say " Trump was right with his executive order saying that there's only two sex classes"
I think at first he didn't know what to do. He wanted to shift into a binary of where Dad is the bad guy and everything dad says is wrong and dad doesn't understand all the usual stuff about raising a teenager.
But what I found is that I have a very principled path and plan not 100%, but mostly that guides the conversations I have with him and the beliefs that I have that I am willing to lay down the law on.
And now he sees that I do and then I'm not crazy or mean or evil. And he still has beliefs that I don't share.
But we are close.
When Charlie Kirk got assassinated I picked him up from school and he was celebrating. As an agnostic theist who really didn't know much about Charlie Kirk other than that he was Christian and pretty much what leftist said he was, it was still remarkably easy to tell him " it is not okay to celebrate the murder of another human being"
He pushed back with the leftist talking points "well Dad he was out to end us so I'm glad he's gone."
So we went home and pulled up some of Charlie Kirk's content. For about an hour you watch different stuff. I reiterated that I was wrong to be listening to stuff and believing things that would lead people that dehuman so much that they would celebrate their death. I showed him there was no transgenocide coming from Charlie Kirk's mouth.
On his own he watched the actual murder of Charlie Kirk.
He came to me later and told me he was wrong and that Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die. He said Dad I still don't like a lot of the things he said but to have him die like that in front of his family is not okay.
Then we sat down and talked for about an hour about his plans to medically transition when he's 18. And I told him about why I didn't think that was a great idea.
Yes I use his pronouns. But no I will not have him fall victim to radicalization whether it's coming from the right or the left. In my house the danger is that it comes from the left.
For the first time I felt blessed not just to have this child in my life but the fact that he identifies as trans. I get to be on this journey. I get to be the one to guide him and be the one to help him avoid destroying his body through medicalization based on a TikTok generated social contagion.
I'm up for the battle. I need him close.
This is heartbreaking.
Yes. Going back in time…. That line brought tears to my eyes. What I wouldn’t give to be able to go back to before the madness.
I had a son like that once too...heartbreaking isn't it?
My daughter said to me in a dark tone, with a grave uncanny face: "I don't believe in God".
Three days later she had me arrested after ensuring I was in bed. I was supposed to have committed a hate crime of transphobia. I wasn't charged because the police proved to be fairly intelligent.
And then the bullying went on. And on. I no longer love her, whether or not she is schizophrenic, whether or not she is a psychopath. Nor does her once so close a brother of hers.
I am an anti-trans gay man. I want to say something to help, but I’m not sure what. Sharing my religious beliefs because they are so positive, is the best thing I can think of.
Part of the problem with your son may be the Christian environment of your home. Christianity is an uncompromising religion. The Bible essentially says that a majority of people will be damned on judgement day. However, anyone who studies religion knows that all the major religions were devised by human beings, and that most of them are designed to keep unruly populations in check.
There is no evidence that the Bible is the word of God — indeed, there is plenty of evidence that it has many authors. My quest has been to find God through a study of compassionate metaphysical sources. I started with the Edgar Cayce readings, and I continued with the Seth Material (Seth was the soul or spirit who was channelled by the trance medium Jane Roberts, who lived in upstate New York and died in 1984). Both Cayce and Seth said that we reincarnate. It is only during our reincarnational lives that we take biological form. For some reason that I haven’t uncovered yet, physical form allows us to grow and learn more readily than the spiritual form we take in the afterlife.
In addition to those sources, I have also studied near-death experiences (NDEs), the richest source of information of all. Many near-death experiencers (NDErs) have remembered past lives while they were having their NDE, so NDEs confirm the existence of reincarnation.
Lastly, I recently discovered the books of Swedenborg, who lived about 200 years ago. Swedenborg claimed that he was able to travel into the afterlife without dying or nearly dying (probably in his astral body), and he published what he learned in several books. Swedenborg was a Christian, but he interpreted the Bible symbolically.
Now, before I launch into a discussion of what I’ve learned, let me point out that the Bible disapproves of homosexuality. Your boy may be a homosexual. He may have swallowed the idea from transgender activists that being gay means he has the “gender identity” of a woman. Believing that he is a woman at heart may be easier than accepting his gayness. If your boy has ever talked about his sexuality, and if I am right, you absolutely must not shame him for his gay feelings.
The Bible, of course, is wrong on homosexuality. The ancient Jews were opposed to it probably because it dampened population growth. God does not disapprove of homosexuality, or judge people for it. My estimate is that about 8% of all men are gay, so this is a large community. It is much better for your son to accept himself as a gay man than a woman because gay men do not medicalize themselves, and the community is large enough for him to make friends. Unfortunately, most gay people are pro-trans. If you don’t like the idea of your son being gay, then be comforted by the fact that he will choose to be heterosexual in most of his reincarnational lives.
My studies of the various metaphysical sources have painted a pretty clear picture of God and the afterlife. God exists and is the source of all life. God is the embodiment of Love and does not judge anyone. Reality as we know it formed in God’s imagination during God’s formative period. We are, in fact, part of God — sort of like cells in God’s body (though God doesn’t have a physical body). God is our “highest self”.
Swedenborg said there are multiple heavens and hells. The hells are not designed for punishment. Rather, those people who cannot let go of their self-centered egotism (Trump comes to mind) end up in one of the hells, which are designed to make them as comfortable as possible. God does not abandon the sinners.
So let’s put your son’s life in context. First, he is immortal. He has most likely reincarnated before, and most likely will reincarnate again. If some of those lives are failures, or devoted to bad ideas, that just means they were intense learning experiences. He will depart his “failed” lives with greater wisdom. The likelihood is that he is reincarnating with a soul group. Members of this group may trade places from one life to the next. Thus, you are his parent in this life, but he may be your parent in another life, or a sibling, etc. My point about the soul group is that he is not alone in his lives, but surrounded by friends, even if it doesn’t appear so. Eventually he will learn all that he can learn from reincarnation, and he will take up permanent residence in one of the heavens.
I still haven’t given you much advice. I will say this: Make sure he understands that the medical treatments that trans people get are just cosmetic, and that they won’t change his male body to female. These altered bodies also require constant maintenance, and that can be a drag.
Also if you are wrong about "God doesn't judge anyone". I don't think that God can do any justice in this wicked world therefore your god concept is inept at the least and evil at the worst. Who does that sound like: a concept disguised as an angel of light.
Butt out buddy. You're not a parent.
Curious comments. My intention is always to help. If you don't understand the contexts within which you exist -- and most people don't -- you can't help yourself.
As others have said : the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I'd love to discuss religion with you, but this isn't the place. I put it into my comment above because it applies to the overall issue.
do not let him go to college until, if he becomes secure in himself and his identity, as a male. keep him home have him get a job, or try trade school. college/university will be the end of your son, and you will have a “daughter” instead.
You can still save him because you spotted the problem while he is still under your roof.
You have to be ruthless, but with a gentle hand. Computers gone. TV gone. No more girls’ clothes. Be the iron curtain between your home and anything LGBT.
No therapists!!!
He will push back and threaten you that he will leave or even report you to authorities. That is a risk you have to take. This is your only chance.
I have only the benefit of hindsight and utter misery because I missed that chance with my son and he is now head to toe de-sexed and corrupted one of his sisters to cover up his acts. He hates us now.
We hemmed and hawed and believed the psychiatrists and look where it got us. Do not make the same mistake.
The West’s acceptance of transgenderism and its ravages on the family did not appear in a big bang. It developed in stages through the generations which favored religious indifferentism, sentimental theology, and rejection of Christian morals.
You may disagree with my assessment, but it is not knee-jerk. It is based on 10 years of trial and error, torment, prayer, and withering merciless abuse from advocates, outsiders and malpracticing psychologists.
I have read enough Scripture to know that Jesus showed mercy on the repentant. Not so much on the proud sinners. Also note that Jesus warned about hell more than anybody:
Matt 5:29; Matt 6:14-15; Matt 7:13; Matt 10:28; Matt 11:23; Matt 12:36; Matt 13: 24-30, etc.
Good time rock ‘n’ roll does not earn eternal life.
Once you've followed this kind of advise your son will want trans identity so bad you will have lost the battle. This is knee-jerk reaction to the other pendulum of affirming! Neither work out for the best. Let him develop some agency or you'll loose him...not on every front but look for good overcoming evil not control and power overcoming identity...he needs to affirm his real identity thru masculine affirmation so guard this and promote this kind of activity. The kind of tactic that this person is advocating doesn't work at all with teens and young adults ...it's a child rearing tactic but too late for the older transitions. I have had conversation with parents on this site who did this and it backfired . These are not little children but budding adults. Give them some credit or you'll loose all the respect you are trying to get through by force. Read the Gospels. See how Jesus handled people. Not using force except the force of truth joined with love.
My daughter … everything else is the same.
I empathize with what you’re going through, and I’m sorry that you’re experiencing what you are. Our children unfortunately will be left to their own devices, as that is the way of western culture. I don’t say that to be callous, I say that because there is quite literally nothing we can do. 2 days after my family warmly and heartily celebrated my daughter’s 20th birthday, she moved out and ghosted everyone in her family except me. Why not me? So she could say the things your son said to you just before she also extricated me from her life.
This won’t be the case forever, but for right now, any hopes of driving back this ideology rests with parents willing to vote for candidates that oppose this ideology. This more or less excludes democrats. Our children deserved better than what they got from American culture. The left got handed cultural influence on a platter and used the Trojan Horse of empathy and tolerance to create androgynous soldiers that will perpetuate the culture that corrupted them.
Perhaps it’s debatable whether or not we can save the children and young adults afflicted by this mind virus, but I don’t want this happening to more children, so I intend to fight any way I can- legally, culturally,and emotionally. I suggest everyone worried about the damage being done do the same.
I wouldn't exclude Democrats from getting anyone's vote. First, not all Democrats are full-on supporters of transgenderism. I certainly am not. And let's not forget that the Republican party is the party of the Orange Lunatic. Among Democrats, there is an altruistic seed to their wokism. Among Republicans, there is no altruistic seed anywhere to be found in the entire party. They are the party of racism and selfishness. Democrats are still right on most issues.
I can't believe you are comparing racism to the cult of transgender ideology you vote democrat you belong to the cult simply as that how sad that you don't understand our pain
I am Latina and no Democrats are way more racist
Deportations are nothing compared to the damage your party is doing to our children, teenagers and young adults. Colleages brainwashed our kids and turned them against their parents, counselors tell our kids " you are trans we'll put you on blockers and estrogen and you will be happily ever after no don't worry no side effects only your happiness and your own self and no no repercussions and yes we can shop off your breast to make you a man or your dick off to make you a woman yes🤑🤑??"
So am I, became a citizen as soon as I was able to and register Republican
If Biden and the Democrats hadn’t stolen the election, I honestly believe we would not all be suffering from our kids having these trans delusions. DOGE uncovered millions of dollars pumped into furthering trans ideology. I’m so grateful for Donald Trump and his willingness to fight against the trans agenda - he may not be perfect, but I’m super grateful he’s on our side of this issue. As far as gay men hating Trump, I suggest you research Dave Rubin and Brandon Straka who are both gay men.
you are reading off a propaganda script. you just sound crazy. calling half the population of the us racist is just dumb and why that word has lost all meaning. democrats birthed this trans ideology and have been giving it life since then. you won’t find one republican grooming kids, they are all dems. truth hurts and you need to own it before you can expect to heal and stop this madness.
Oh, are Democrats also responsible for the common cold? Democrats have nothing to do with transgenderism. It came from trans people, mostly men with autogynephilia. To Democrats, what trans people were saying made sense. It never made sense to me, so I don't support it.
You know, the partisanship of you, Truth Advocator (ha) and Jake just shows that you have been brainwashed by Trump. Trump is a con men. Conning weak-minded people is what he does. Right now he's doing everything he can to destroy the norms that have governed America since the beginning. I hope for all of us that he doesn't succeed. That you can't see that he is abnormal and destructive is pathetic.
i don’t support either party. they are both corrupt and do not represent common people, but are bought and paid for by corporations the trillionaire monsters who really run the world. the dems are just next level brainwashed and stupid. republicans are at least against the most basic crime of tranzing kids which is a favorite activity of the dem party. if you are a dem you are just a brain dead evil zombie and you are complicit in the trans nightmare that we are all living in now. blocked and don’t care to waste any more time listening to your pathetic attempt at rationalizing your crimes against humanity.
The orange lunatic is ending the madness in institutions. Something the democrats you value so much won’t go near. He’s not my favorite either, but mealy-mouthed, weak ass beta sentiments like yours will ensure stories like the ones expressed in this thread will recur over and over again. No thanks. I will continue to proselytize that no one vote Democrat until they can prove to me that they’re no longer worthy of my vituperative perspective. You included.
The orange lunatic is just acting like a lunatic. Look at what he did when he first took office -- firing large portions of each federal department, without even checking to see who should be fired? Where Trump is concerned, you have nothing to stand on. He is a capricious monster. He is more concerned with his public image than actually improving government. He is a generator of chaos. So the Democrats signed on to some bad "woke" ideas. At least they were trying to help what they saw as vulnerable people.
You sound like a TDS mouthpiece.
The majority of the world has no idea what is REALLY going on. I don't like to read but if I did I would read the book I have called "The Midnight Rider Rides again" and the second version of that book. It lays out the whole situation in laws and orders. The fact is this is a well organized plan that has been going on for many many years. Some very interesting information can be found at stopworldcontrol.com. The docuseries "Fall of the Cabal" and the sequel is very informative. It is biblical....prophecy being fulfilled...and people will hopefully very soon see what exactly I am talking about...because I really don't know any details I just know that something huge is coming and the wicked will be gone....those that have done this to our children and even worse things to other children. God is in control and the world will soon see who He really is...as in Habakkuk 2:14!
Can you guys get another site to project all this divisive hate?
My precious daughter was an IVF baby and now identifies as a male and is doubtless infertile. Caught in the not liking her own body phase during puberty that so many people go through, and persuaded there was a 'cure'. The school (a private Lutheran school) did not even tell us and she changed gender on her birth certificate as soon as she turned 18 (no evidence or counselling necessary in Australia), while still at school. So there was no opportunity to even talk to her and was told that her family would reject her if she tried.
It is quite astonishing that teachers, of all people, have become the enemy of good sense and are spreading the false notions of transgenderism all over the place. It is not the role of teachers to influence children in such a way.
We have much in common. Our beloved son was born after much pain, prayer and medical treatments during 10 years of infertility. We are strong believers, he was raised in the church, we prayed every night together, he made a declaration of faith and was baptized. When we received a text on his 19th birthday from his first year in college saying “I’m transgender“, our world changed.
The first thing we told him was that we would always love him, that he would always be welcome in our home as part of our family, but we did not agree, and did not support any transition. We were at an advantage, since he had no money, and he was wholly dependent on us financially. He grew his hair long, shaved his legs and arms, and always wore long pants, even in summer. We spent about 2 years withstanding his misery, anger, rage, and hatefulness.
I remember one conversation during a drive in the car (where we both stared straight ahead and he couldn’t leave). I told him that I was attracted to his father precisely because he was not the stereotypical macho male. He was intelligent, artistic, creative, sensitive and handsome, just like him. I pointed out that just because he had those qualities did not make him feminine (which he never was), much less trans. I wanted him to understand that there is a whole spectrum of masculinity, and just because he felt he didn’t fit the mold of toxic masculinity, didn’t mean he wasn’t fully male.
After a series of events which included many more difficult conversations with him, constant prayer, his semester abroad in a different country and a direct confrontation about estrogen pills we found in his room (which he handed over to us), he desisted. When I asked him if he rejected the ideology, he said “Yes, I reject it”. When I asked why he’d thought he was trans, he said “Because I was a stupid teenager”.
In some ways, I am still haunted by the experience, but we rejoice to see him maturing and embracing himself. He is still a bit awkward and a loner - we are pretty sure he is on the spectrum. But he takes care of his body through eating well and exercising, has his own creative pursuits, and is in graduate school. I still read PITT and feel for everyone as well as pray for God to open the eyes of our beloved children. Everyone’s path will be different, but I hope some of my story might shed light and give hope to others.
You have the wisdom that the Bible teaches! Way to go Mom!! Making a reasoned argument is definitely a way to go as the male mind does accept logic and can make a
reasoned response like your son did. Leading with love is the way I did it and my 27 year old son still visits his parents every weekend and knows he is loved. We are not through it but he is functioning with a good career and respect for his parents. Get some wins while you can. This is the way to go.
It sounds like you handled the situation with your son just right. Congratulations on handling a difficult situation carefully and sensitively.
For anyone who wants Christian support, I highly recommend Help4families.org. I'm in a Tuesday Bible study with Christian moms going through the trials of having LGBTQ kids. My kid is 17 but all of theirs are adults and some have been cut off. This group is safe and healing. You're not alone!