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Rachel's avatar

Well this is very discouraging. 😪

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Al's avatar

The world has literally gone absolutely bonkers.

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Al's avatar

What on earth is their end game??

It baffles the mind just how obstinate and arrogant and extreme they are in their strategy. This has to be political in nature or they would have done the research. Makes me sick

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Ollie Parks's avatar

This whole thing needs to be Plaintiff's Exhibit 1 in the lawsuit that finally delivers a fatal blow to the gender-affirming health care establishment. Sue, baby, sue!

Take this admission: "Leibowitz promoted screening for gender for all kids and developing their gender literacy and competence while preventing them from caving into the gender binary."

It lends considerable weight to the argument that gender-affirming care isn't applied science or social science at all but ideologically driven activism of the pernicious post-modern variety.

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LovingMother's avatar

This is a case to watch, Ollie:

"The Supreme Court Will Review a Ban on So-Called ‘Gender-Affirming’ Care for Kids" https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2024/06/24/puberty-blocker-case-scotus-n2640864

"The case, United States vs. Skrmetti, will be argued in the next term, which starts in October."

I hope that the attorneys are informed.

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Gary Trieste's avatar

Wow. Ghoulish doesn't quite reach the insidiousness of this whole conference. I am still trying to frame the whole thing into a cohesive description of wtf is going on; it has the trappings of cultish capture of these professionals, or Nazi medical experimenters with a purported view to improving medical knowledge. It is some kind of emoto-ideo drive that blinds them to what they do, and curbs their objective critical thinking, dismissing all the contraindications as just speed bumps, and over-justifying these perverse procedures to get to a ideologically satisfying result.

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LovingMother's avatar

I think it has different layers to it.

1) I believe there are those who are sick and fetished and sexually enjoy chopping sex organs off children and sculpting fakes. If you listen to Jazz Jennings doctor, "Marci" Bowers , for instance this seems to be the case. And, as Team Reality showed us below - this is a WPATH member's fantasy:

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-california-gender-academic-inspired-pedophilic-fantasy-on-castrating-enslaving-young-boys/

"...a third, and arguably the most well-regarded member of the forum, was revealed to be Thomas W. Johnson, a professor emeritus at California State University-Chico who has lectured extensively on gender dysphoria and “expanding the transgender umbrella.” Johnson utilized the moniker “Jesus” on the Eunuch Archive.s moniker, Johnson also encouraged site members to submit fantasies of castrating children in a dystopian setting wherein eugenics had become enforced by the government. The framework for the fictional world was drafted by a site member who called himself Erik, in a story titled “The Making of the Modern World.”

“Erik and I would both like to encourage readers to create additional stories for the Archive set in this future world. Erik would like first person accounts of boys becoming drones,” Johnson wrote as “Jesus.”

2) Then, there is the aspect of Nazi like medical experimentation that you mention:

"Echoes of Eugenics: What the Doctors Trial at Nuremberg Means for Us in the US. (8/30/2022)"

https://pitt.substack.com/p/echoes-of-eugenics-what-the-doctors

"The medical profession has wrestled with the significance of the Doctors Trial. For instance, to observe its 50th anniversary, the British Medical Journal printed a special issue (free downloads here). The lead article “War crimes and medical science” warned that the Nazi problems were “not unique to one place or time, and could happen here” and the trial “left us with a legacy we still shrink from confronting.” It pointed to contemporary problems in American medicine and warned “there will always be imperatives that threaten the professional values we profess to hold so dear” and “the profession of medicine carries within it the seeds of its own destruction.”

3) Then, there is the way "Gender" Medical "Care"/"Affirmation" works politically as part of the DEI Oppression Olympics. This has given it real power in my opinion to the point where powerful people will not speak against it because it works so well for them. There is probably another Nazi era parallel here.

4) Than, "Gender Medicine" makes a crazy amount of money. Pharma is allowed to advertise direct to consumer so that they have alot of power over television programming which is very Trans Cult promoting (even aside from the fact that Hollywood people are eager to trans their kids).

"U.S. Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size, Share & Trends Analysis Report By Gender Transition (Male To Female, Female To Male), And Segment Forecasts, 2022 - 2030"

https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market

"Vanderbilt University Medical Center Doctor Called Transgender Surgery ‘Big Money’ Year Before Covenant Killer Audrey Hale was Referred for Commitment"

https://tennesseestar.com/covenant-school-shooting/vanderbilt-university-medical-center-doctor-called-transgender-surgery-big-money-year-before-covenant-killer-audrey-hale-was-referred-for-commitment/tpappert/2024/06/21/

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Mrs Miller's avatar

Imagine this discussion with a German accent. In person. Sitting around a large picnic table laden with schnitzels and beer. Everyone smoking and laughing. Drinking, gesturing, dismissing the naysayers, casually suggesting penile amputations for painful erections, ha ha ha.

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Running the Race's avatar

Thank you for sharing all this. It is too nauseating and depressing how they discuss hypotheticals and “cases” that are our children. May God shine light in the darkness.

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Paul Hunter's avatar

Given all the knowledge freely available about these procedures, it's almost insane that anyone would want to risk their health going through with them.

Detransitioners need to take center stage if this threat is every going to be contained by showing off to others their example of what a walking, breathing genetic mistake actually looks like

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Marianne's avatar

You know, maybe if we leave them alone long enough, the surgeons will get enough “practice” on these children and young people and there will come a day when the plastic surgery will create functioning genitals! No more sterility! No more numb sex organs! No more hormonal side effects! No more dead naming, no more bullying! Practice, practice, practice!

Come to think of it, it would be as if none of this had ever happened, and the fantasies would still be just fantasies, (except for the money they were making.) Oh, well. I tried.

Carry on.

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Momma Bear's avatar

Wow. This is a virtuoso piece of writing and information gathering. Thank you for your service to our lost children and for putting all your research into such a cohesive and learned article. Am sharing with like-minded friends. This article requires much re-reading. One take away from it is better understanding the behavior and personality changes I've witnessed in those individuals those taking cross-hormones. The other is the personality and mind-set of the medical "professionals" promoting this agenda. Highlighted for me throughout this article, was the skill with which you present the stupidity and narrow-mindedness of those promoting Trans "Care". And, what seems to me to be active sadistic pleasure these "trans" affirming medical "professionals" receive experimenting with Government assistance, on vulnerable young people. These "treatments" seem to me, to qualify as the penultimate in successful brain washing: convincing a young person with or without parental support - that they will find "peace and happiness" through surgery, mutilation, sterilization, life- long medicalization, and devastating distancing from their own family.

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Notorious P.A.T.'s avatar

Wow, thank you for subjecting yourself to this and sharing what you found. What a nightmare!

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Jenny Poyer Ackerman's avatar

This is a brilliant piece, thank you. 🙏

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Un-silent's avatar

Could you imagine reading this in 1950? You would be thinking it some sort of science fiction writing. What in the heck is wrong with the medical industry? Is there so much greed they can't see straight? All of this comes straight from the pit of hell and it will take all of these medical "professionals" with it when it returns there. Good riddance.

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Martha's avatar

Read LovingMother's post just below this sharing a PITT article on the doctors of the Nuremberg trials. I hadn't realized the parallels.

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LovingMother's avatar

Yeah... from the article I posted:

"The medical profession has wrestled with the significance of the Doctors Trial. For instance, to observe its 50th anniversary, the British Medical Journal printed a special issue (free downloads here). The lead article “War crimes and medical science” warned that the Nazi problems were “not unique to one place or time, and could happen here” and the trial “left us with a legacy we still shrink from confronting.” It pointed to contemporary problems in American medicine and warned “there will always be imperatives that threaten the professional values we profess to hold so dear” and “the profession of medicine carries within it the seeds of its own destruction.”"

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LovingMother's avatar

Since there has been plenty of discussion of eugenics and Dr. Mengele I thought I'd pull up this old PITT:

Echoes of Eugenics: What the Doctors Trial at Nuremberg Means for Us in the US. (8/30/2022)

https://pitt.substack.com/p/echoes-of-eugenics-what-the-doctors

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Team Reality's avatar

I am at s loss at how the media just won't straight up say that "gender affirmative care" means sterilizing kids

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Discrete Music's avatar

Because “affirmation” is Smile.

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LovingMother's avatar

Agree

And, how is the media not screaming for the removal of HHS's Levine?

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Ironically, Trump will probably put an end to this shit.

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Anon's avatar

How on earth this is happening is beyond me. Un freakin believable

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Team Reality's avatar

This is a truly tragic event. It shouldn't have happened. I'm unable to notice a few issues though. Poor kid wasn't reported missing for two days, and seems to have been using online hookup app often used by prostitutes.

https://www.aol.com/suspect-charged-grisly-murder-dismembered-024002529.html

Body parts of Pauly Likens, 14, were found in the Shenango River Lake, a reservoir of western Pennsylvania and northeastern Ohio.

So sad. Family waited 2 days. There's no indication the murderer was previously known to the kid, and plenty of trans spaces online promote sex work.

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