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Annie's avatar

Great article, thanks! As it points out so well, there is no data to support the transition or suicide narrative— a fact admitted by the ACLU lawyer during oral arguments in Skirmetti, at the Supreme Court no less. Most therapists couldn’t point to data anyway, as they are just using a script of sorts handed to them by their professional associations, based no doubt, on a bullet list of ‘facts’, perhaps with carefully selected references. I loved the writer’s suggestion for an alternate way of framing the question. Would love to have something short that you could put on a sign? (eg, for puberty blockers, I think Genspect came up with ‘Puberty is not a disease’. ) May the writer and son find escape from this terrible situation. ❤️

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A_Dad's avatar

One really concerning aspect to this ideology is the heavy hand of government in states that affirm. Professionals are at risk of losing their license to practice if they don't tow the preferred party line. A parent can lose custody of their children if they don't affirm especially if the other parent is affirming.

Oregon has prevented people from fostering children if they don't affirm before hand for a hypothetical foster child who is trans. It's like a loyalty oath just to prove that you are not going to question the validity or cause of gender confusion.

California and Washington are trans sanctuary states where a child can seek transition medicine against a parents wishes.

It's like every safeguard that was put in place to protect children has been reversed to harm them. The key argument that is utilized to trans abuse a child is if we don't give them what they want without questioning they will die.

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GenderRealistMom's avatar

Although I completely agree about the risks of transitioning, I wish people stopped citing that 2011 Swedish study. I think we have enough good science and common sense without it. That particular study was not very well designed and is easy to take apart. The matched controls came from the general population. Of course they had lower rate of suicide - a healthy group would always do better than a group with a disease (be it depression, diabetes, or "gender dysphoria"). The years were 1973-2003 so presumably the interventions changed since then and TRAs will argue that modern interventions are much better. 19 times higher suicide risk is still based on "only" 10 total suicides in trans group. So, while I am sure that transitioning increases risk of suicide, this particular study doesn't help much.

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Momma Bear's avatar

Thank you for writing this. These insights can become slogans of our Parental protests that really must start becoming more organized and public than ever before. I need to memorize some of the lines in this essay. They are very effective rebuttals to some of the craziness I am exposed to about this issue. I'll bring this article to my doctor today, who played some kind of part that I am forbidden to inquire about due to "Hepa Laws" whom I know helped facilitate some of this "affirmative care" to my troubled adult child.

The manipulation of language is a prime signature of mental torture. Part of MkUltra Mind Control techniques that are disguised today as "psychology" and "progressive" politics. And vividly descripted in George Orwell's "fiction" book "1984."

This kind of mind control is running 24/7 - and unless we are aware of it and have strong guard rails on our sanity it's easy to become a hostage, and lose our identity, just like our lost children.

Perhaps next time I get a text from a certain family member who thinks they are doing ME a service in understanding REALITY - by referring to my troubled daughter as HE; I'll venture to use one of the lines from this essay. Like - "Telling a child their body is wrong is not kindness, it’s a betrayal of trust. It’s a perversion of science." Or “Affirmation” without truth is not compassion. “Care” that causes sterilization is not medicine. “Love” that agrees with despair is not love. "

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Thoughtful Bowler's avatar

I think the phrase "dead son or live daughter" is much worse than emotional blackmail.  At a high level, a doctor or psycholgist is saying words and if a specific course of action is not followed, this physical healthy person (often in the room) will die.  That sounds like a death threat.  In most places, such threats are illegal.  Concerning suicide, many states have laws explicitly forbidding aiding, encouraging, or advising a person to commit suicide.  Introducing the topic of suicide and suggesting that suicide is inevitable unless a physical healthy patient immediately starts invasive, unproven "treatment" sounds like encouragement of suicide to me.  Either way, it seems like uttering this phrase is breaking the law.

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Geralyn St Joseph's avatar

My daughter's therapist told me that if my order hurt herself it was all my fault. And even though she threatened to do this in front of the therapist, He Did nothing to help her

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A_Dad's avatar

A very popular manipulation seen on trans influencer TikTok is tell children that they need to break the dead family bonds and embrace the glitter family. Children are encouraged to hide their new identities from their parents. The Trans groups use the same techniques as predatory groomer and cults. Love bombing, isolation, covert promises, half truths and redefining the language. It's a mind virus that rots from the inside out. By the time a parent finds out the child has been programmed to resist the truth. It's sickening that every trusted person in a child's life could be programmed to cheer body and mind carnage. The kindergarten teacher could be planting the seeds of gender dysphoria and starts social transition in secret, the pediatrician gives their "professional" opinion that it is very rare but must be affirmed to prevent suicide. The pediatrician not being an expert on Trans sends a referral to a psychologist who should be a neutral party helping a child to clear the confusion others have implanted in the confused child's brain instead rubber stamps the confusion then strong arms the parent into submission.

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OverIT's avatar

We were fed lines like that several times in some form by therapists and maybe one school counselor. I doubt it did much, but I did push back and told them I thought it would way more likely they would try to commit suicide if they medicalized and regretted it. I got at least one sheepish look. We did manage to find a couple of non affirming therapists through Therapy First. I like to think they helped but we shall see.

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StillHaveHope's avatar

Good writing I have never met a psychologist who was compassionate. All these professionals, so-called professionals are just looking at their pocketbook and whatever will make the most money. Most people don’t care about other people unfortunately our kids were pushed into this psychology game through this. I have no respect for Psychologists at all. To me, they are heart of problem they need to all repent for harming other people, especially children, and young adult adults.

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Mollie Kaye's avatar

When I first heard the “dead son vs living daughter” phrase, it was from my best friend, recounting what her 19-year-old son’s counsellor had blithely asked her. My friend is a devoted, caring, and realistic mother who knew her kid and his lifelong history of emotional challenges. I peaked when I heard her recount this phrase, as it defied all of the wisdom of best medical and counselling practice.

I thought later I’d like to ask the counsellor, “On what schedule do you assume this imminent suicide will occur? Is it immediately after the parent’s refusal to cheerlead the requested chemical interventions? As in: the kid hears no, then jumps out the nearest window head first?

Or is it later that evening after hearing ‘no’— the kid completes suicide with a gun, or lays down on the train tracks?

Or is it a week later, or two weeks later, after hearing ‘no’? If there’s a real risk of such dire, imminent self-harm, then any kid who is told ‘no’ when they demand blockers, suppression, cross-sex hormones or surgery should be immediately sheltered in an inpatient psych ward.

Oh, I see… you aren’t going to do that, you’re going to send the kid home with their ‘transphobic bigot’ parents to continue their suicide threat language to wear those parents down until they support destroying their kid’s health outcomes? Or maybe the kid never has been using that suicide language before, but now you’ve planted the idea in their young mind that they are doomed?

You can’t tell me this ‘care’ is ‘life-saving,’ since a life-or-death medical— or even psychological— situation would require immediate physical intervention.

Let’s say the kid hears ‘no’ and doesn’t kill themselves within two weeks. Would it be within a month? Two months? A year? Ten years? WHEN EXACTLY DOES THIS DEATH BY SUICIDE OCCUR after a kid is told ‘no, you may not avail yourself of loss-of-function elective cosmetic chemical and surgical sex trait modifications?’ And if it’s a year, or a decade later, how can you attribute any person’s suicide to a particular setback, disappointment, or rational medical safeguarding?’”

The “trans suicide” trope was always manipulative nonsense. It is one thing coming from a child or adolescent, but quite another coming from credentialed professionals. I have lost respect for any professional who espoused this destructive, destabilizing nonsense, and those who knew it was insane, but stood silently by watching their fellow professionals destroy kids and families.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

You make an excellent point here that I have not read before: if the patient is predicted to commit suicide after GAC is withheld, then the professionals are obligated to tell the parents the child needs to be hospitalized.

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Mothers Grim's avatar

"Born in the wrong body" is largely a marketing campaign. It is well funded cultural programming that has happened over many decades. Normal child and young adults experiences are turned into a medical industry. The psyche industry has been using drugs on young people for a very long time. As time progresses things get worse and worse. Now they write letters (sometimes just purchased online) for surgical updates for people who can (of course!) only be born in the right body.

A substack writer has been documenting the suicides. They are tough to read/listen but here is her latest: https://exulansic.substack.com/p/the-great-round-up-dead-names-for

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Beeswax's avatar

Agreed. Exulansic herself is a detransitioner who lived as a man for about a decade. She understands the psychology of transitioners from the inside. When she refers to the "dead names" of trans people, she's not kidding. Her work digs deep and is emotionally harrowing, because the end of the suffering of these transitioners is suicide, once they realize that they were fooled into undergoing surgeries which promised the world and delivered nothing but pain, loss of function, and frequent trips to the emergency room.

Wounded, broke, and hopeless, they kill themselves but don't blame the lying, greedy doctors. No, it's society's "transphobia." If there's an example of cognitive dissonance, this is it.

What makes Exulansic unique is her compassion and deep understanding of what motivates transitioners despite all logic and reason.

"Dysphoria cured," is always the ironic period at the end of the sentence.

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Mothers Grim's avatar

Thanks for filling in her important background.

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Karole's avatar

So true. Thank you. We need to also insist on using "sex" when the conversation is about male and female. I don't think we'll ever get that genie back in the bottle, but we can stand for the truth of sex just as we stand against the lies of trans.

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EyesOpen's avatar

Yes indeed: "We must reclaim the words that have been twisted against us." We must find our voice and use it.

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Chris Fox's avatar

That live son/dead daughter should be answered by arrests and lawsuits. It’s raw extortion.

Which would you rather have, a son at home with his physical reality, or a piss-dripping eunuch?

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Susan Z's avatar
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When the LGBT friendly therapist ( referred by his pediatrician) said the dead son or living daughter shit I answered I want a living son. She looked at me so confused, like what that's not an option. As far as I'm concerned having a healthy, secure, contented son is the only option. And you , mental health professional, are supposed to work to achieve that. But she was so captured by this cult she could not see that that was her actual job.

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Chris Fox's avatar

It's astonishing to me how many people smart enough to know better are completely aboard with this "trans" garbage.

There are exactly two sexes, and nothing between. Repeat it.

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Patrick J's avatar

Amen and Amen!!!

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