I feel your pain. I have to believe God has a plan for all of them as hard as it is to see and to walk through this nightmare. My son I believe was also 22 and came out shortly after he turned 26. I believe that he had an encounter with God but not exactly sure how it went because he too is high functioning on the spectrum and his way of communicating is not always straightforward. He is still a work in progress....as we all are....but I also know that what we have all been going through is coming to an end. The devil is a forever loser and this agenda has clearly been all his. I have spent thousands of hours deep into rabbit holes, at small and large group events, and just watching and listening to many many videos that are talking about what the world has become. Something BIG is coming and I believe we will be delivered from this evil that sadly we have just sort of allowed to take over. Everything is connected and it's all about to be exposed, probably slowly because some of it would totally break people if they had to take it all in at once, and many wouldn't believe it. Somehow my son seems to know about it but doesn't want to talk about it. It's like victims of sexual trauma....especially when it happens at a young age...many times it gets buried because it's easier than dealing with the pain of it, plus young people get threatened into not talking. I think that is a bigger part of all this than we know, whether it be online encounters with actual people or just exposure to pornography at a young age. As one mother here suggested.....we need to destroy all their technology before it's too late. Even Disney was subliminally exposing young children to porn. The picture is huge but stay encouraged because God is going to destroy the wicked and our children will be made whole. Keep the Faith! God knows your pain....and as someone I listened to yesterday said....what we have gone through is preparing us for what's to come. The world is about to change....in ways we can most likely not even imagine!
For 16 years, every Christmas I would send my Trans ex-H a Jimpix free e-card photo of a frozen road with ice and snow, silhouette of trees, black and white... and nothing else. I wrote a brief message "to Paul/Elizabeth" - no "dear". I said: "This is the Christmas which you have chosen, not us". And I signed "Una and your children". The cards were delivered, there was no "bounce back". But I have no idea what he thought of the message. He was "the living dead".
He died in 2022 of suicide and the Death Certificate in his female name was issued. But I notice that e-mails still go through to the same two e-mail addresses (one for Paul and another for "Elizabeth") It seems that no one has closed these accounts. I had thought that his other, older son, who supported his father's insanity and called him "Elizabeth", would have "tidied up", but no.
Everything about the insanity is bizarre and very disturbing. We lost any hope of an inheritance from his estate. He disinherited two out of his three children. At least my two are sane. And that is down to my firm stance on "gender ideology" having been comprehensively gas-lit for 16 years.
I am so, so sorry for you PITT parents: your children were corrupted behind your back, by the social forces of Gender EVIL. I was aware that this could happen if I let my children have any real, unsupervised contact with their father. So there was no unsupervised contact. I prevented any uncertainty, any "persuasion", any corruption. I am pleased that I did protect my children. They are OK.
I pray, and I am working every single day to reveal the horrors of "gender" to stupid, indolent, naive and easily confused politicians, anyone with the power to reject the "SEX-REJECTION" CULT, and AFFIRM REALITY. Astonishingly, President Donald Trump has called this out correctly. I wish all PITT parents strength and patience and a MIRACLE in 2026. In peace..... XXX Una
Thank you for your story. It is a horrible reminder that this is still going on. It is a shocking trajectory, so destabilizing because you can see it coming & it’s impossible to stop (for many). But it is an important point to make & it is what has got me through the past 4 years, you actually are NOT broken. We are the sane ones & how we are regarded is beyond cruel. My husband has resigned himself to the view that our sons will likely hit rock bottom before they let us back into their lives. It is a difficult ‘hope’ to live with. PITT parents are with me everyday x
I'm so sorry. Your story is so familiar, to so many parents. We need more people to listen. We're going through a similar situation. Daughter now trans, identified suddenly in grad school. Good family, Christian college. Didn't help. The minute they got to her, she was hooked on "trans." We fought her for two years, ended up estranged. So this year, we got her to come home for Christmas. She's now 28, on T and has removed her breasts. It's beyond heartbreaking. We tried to be inclusive and loving, but all we learned is that she's so much worse off "trans." She's drinking excessively (she was sober), she's angry and picked a fight with her (very affirming) sister Christmas eve, her beauty and style is now hidden in sweatpants and a terrible mullet cut, she's gained a lot of weight and is no longer fit, she's miserable. None of this "care" has brought her any "joy." We have no idea what to do! She's talking to us again now, but it was so painful for us. I don't know that it's worth it to put her sister, or us through that again. Maybe we'll have to accept a relationship from a distance? It's horrible. I'm so sorry. The pain is horrific. Sending hugs and support! You're no alone!
I agree! In this new year, how can the parents come together in a more powerful way. I wish this administration was able to read our comments. If he could see the pictures and hear our stories.
I’m so sorry. It is evil, what is happening in the field of medicine & psychiatry. Our child went into a psych ward for suicidal ideation & came out having been affirmed as transgender. How is a suicidal child encouraged to make decisions like this? They also encouraged to blame parents for every unhappiness & are told to make demands & ultimatums & cut them off if they don’t capitulate. THAT is abuse.
As a medical professional myself who took an oath to do no harm, it appalls me that they was no major organized objection to this from any professional group. They all are a bunch of cowards that valued their incomes over harm to children. I am disgusted. Not from nurses, doctors, psychiatrists. They all drank the kool aid even though the emperor had no clothes on.
I am sorry for your brokenness. It is a feeling most of us here know very well. I am praying for you and your family. I lost my daughter to this cult too, but I continue to pray that she will find herself back home, first to God and then me. I pray for al the hurting families.
Our stories are very similar. It began when our son was 15; he is now 36. We tried for many years to maintain contact, closeness, and support. However, as the years have passed, we have come to recognize that this CULT has our son thoroughly indoctrinated; nothing we can say will change his course. After a very intense and determined effort at communication and reconciliation this past summer, he finally cut us off completely, but not before we reiterated our undying love for him.
I know that I have done all that is humanly possible to help him, to reach him. I have now entrusted him to God completely and am choosing not to allow his dysphoria to destroy what is left of my marriage, my family, and my life. God will take care of it. I pray for him daily, intensely and intentionally. But I no longer obsess over him. I know that he is in God's loving care.
It is tragic that the parents and families this CULT has destroyed or damaged do not have the support of ANY part of our culture. Unlike the parents of the Moonie Cult of the 70s, who were applauded and assisted in kidnapping and deprogramming their kids, we are maligned, cancelled, and persecuted. BUT! We know that we are just as right and this CULT is just as evil. Stay the course. Trust God. Things are definitely changing; the world is waking up. It won't be immediate, but we will be vindicated.
May God have mercy on our children. God bless you!
Wow 20 years of this for you🥺I am in year one and now fear the long term effects of my child’s incidental run in with a group of drag queens who said she did nice make-up. The drag queens judged a”Emo prom” and crowned my child queen- at 19 getting her to go to the drag clubs where it was cool to be a female impersonating a female drag queen/ soon they had her believing she was really a man.
College seems to be the key to indoctrination...(if they haven't already been captured into the cult in late grade school or high school). These institutions are vectors - the "rainbow clubs & "safe space LGBTQlmnop" groups are responsible. The internet doesn't help. It's a shame, we're losing all these people to this cult. The lawsuits should start against these schools.
Welcome. I am sorry that you are going through this. It's probably the hardest thing you will ever go through. Our 21-year-old is holding off because we said we would cut off any college funding if she did any medicalization. Phew!!! We bought ourselves a few years. But we know she will go on HRT as soon as she gets our last payment. Praying for you and everyone else that is struggling through this process.
Yes - cut them off - no cell phone payments, no education, no nothing. They're adults. If they're being provided financially, they have no reason to focus on LIVING & surviving.
I never understood parents who pay for everything & continue to allow them to use their health benefits to access these damaging drugs & surgeries.
💯 agreed. First thing I did was cut off funding for anything. However, as an insurance agency owner, it's frustrating to know we're all still paying for the cult addiction as it's built into health insurance policies as "medically necessary" over 18. Until that is cut off, they still get a lot of the craziness paid for, particularly in some states. My daughter went to Sacramento "the trans Capital" fit this slow suicide of affliction that has severed our family, especially her mother 🥹. All communication and all empathy. She was so loving before.
Welcome, and I am sorry you've had to join our secret society. It sounds all too similar to so many other stories. My child is almost 21 and in her junior year of college, medicalized for a year and half without our knowing and has since stopped because we threatened to stop paying for college. It has been a roller coaster. Once she graduates, we feel that we lose the last of our leverage and that she'll resume being on testosterone. It has been a process to begin to accept that. We will never affirm her as our son. I think that she is of the type that will have to hit her own medical or mental health bottom in order to snap out of this. Nothing we say or do is going to rescue her now. Praying for your family. This cancer doesn't discriminate in who it metastasizes to.
I am so sorry to hear your all-too-familiar story. You've come to the right place. I have 2 sons as well, and have lived in this madness for 11 years. We have an intact family, homeschooled, went to church, had both boys go all the way through scouting to attain their Eagle rank. It did not matter. Our culture is immersed in this ideology. I later learned that many of those scouting friends, big-time gamers and anime fans, also went down the trans rabbit hole. Even my mainline church has entered the political fray, on the wrong side, of course. I wish I had had the resources that are available now. I would check out all the resources on Genspect.org. I would work hard to find that delicate balance between holding onto your relationship with your son and staying true to your values, even if it means not paying for an education you know will make things worse. Just be clear on everything you do. I would also be sure to talk all this over with your younger son and shower him with your attention. This trans ideology steals all the attention in the family.
I’m sorry your family is going through this too. Try to keep a warm connection. Love bomb him. Find other activities to do with your son, games, movies (find some that may get him thinking about cults). Read up on how to get a loved one out of a cult - a good resource is “Coping with cult involvement: A handbook for families and friends” on the ICSA website. There are quite a few parent groups available and for adult boys.
This is a long hard road. Your son needs you to be loving and compassionate and true to your own values -- it sounds like you are all of these things. The pressure to affirm is relentless, but warmth, kindness, and courage (and the work of @stoicmom) have helped me build a path of connection with my 24 yo TID. She still holds to the identity, but less firmly, and she now asks for my input on important decisions. @therapyfirst is a good place for support as well.
I am so happy to hear that you continue to have a connection with your daughter! When I looked up Therapy First, I was discouraged to see that they align with WPATH....
From their website:
WPATH’s Standards of Care Version 8 explicitly states that therapy “carried out in the context of supporting an adolescent with self-discovery is not considered reparative therapy, as long as there is no a priori goal to change or promote one particular gender identity or expression.” Similarly, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, in its policy on conversion therapy, affirms that it “in no way detracts from the standard of care, which requires that clinicians facilitate the developmentally appropriate, open exploration of sexual orientation, gender identity, and/or gender expression, without any predetermined outcome.”
Therapy First is not endorsing the whole WPATH agenda, they are simply pointing out that even WPATH supports therapy. ... Some trans-oriented medical specialists skip therapy entirely.
I feel your pain. I have to believe God has a plan for all of them as hard as it is to see and to walk through this nightmare. My son I believe was also 22 and came out shortly after he turned 26. I believe that he had an encounter with God but not exactly sure how it went because he too is high functioning on the spectrum and his way of communicating is not always straightforward. He is still a work in progress....as we all are....but I also know that what we have all been going through is coming to an end. The devil is a forever loser and this agenda has clearly been all his. I have spent thousands of hours deep into rabbit holes, at small and large group events, and just watching and listening to many many videos that are talking about what the world has become. Something BIG is coming and I believe we will be delivered from this evil that sadly we have just sort of allowed to take over. Everything is connected and it's all about to be exposed, probably slowly because some of it would totally break people if they had to take it all in at once, and many wouldn't believe it. Somehow my son seems to know about it but doesn't want to talk about it. It's like victims of sexual trauma....especially when it happens at a young age...many times it gets buried because it's easier than dealing with the pain of it, plus young people get threatened into not talking. I think that is a bigger part of all this than we know, whether it be online encounters with actual people or just exposure to pornography at a young age. As one mother here suggested.....we need to destroy all their technology before it's too late. Even Disney was subliminally exposing young children to porn. The picture is huge but stay encouraged because God is going to destroy the wicked and our children will be made whole. Keep the Faith! God knows your pain....and as someone I listened to yesterday said....what we have gone through is preparing us for what's to come. The world is about to change....in ways we can most likely not even imagine!
For 16 years, every Christmas I would send my Trans ex-H a Jimpix free e-card photo of a frozen road with ice and snow, silhouette of trees, black and white... and nothing else. I wrote a brief message "to Paul/Elizabeth" - no "dear". I said: "This is the Christmas which you have chosen, not us". And I signed "Una and your children". The cards were delivered, there was no "bounce back". But I have no idea what he thought of the message. He was "the living dead".
He died in 2022 of suicide and the Death Certificate in his female name was issued. But I notice that e-mails still go through to the same two e-mail addresses (one for Paul and another for "Elizabeth") It seems that no one has closed these accounts. I had thought that his other, older son, who supported his father's insanity and called him "Elizabeth", would have "tidied up", but no.
Everything about the insanity is bizarre and very disturbing. We lost any hope of an inheritance from his estate. He disinherited two out of his three children. At least my two are sane. And that is down to my firm stance on "gender ideology" having been comprehensively gas-lit for 16 years.
I am so, so sorry for you PITT parents: your children were corrupted behind your back, by the social forces of Gender EVIL. I was aware that this could happen if I let my children have any real, unsupervised contact with their father. So there was no unsupervised contact. I prevented any uncertainty, any "persuasion", any corruption. I am pleased that I did protect my children. They are OK.
I pray, and I am working every single day to reveal the horrors of "gender" to stupid, indolent, naive and easily confused politicians, anyone with the power to reject the "SEX-REJECTION" CULT, and AFFIRM REALITY. Astonishingly, President Donald Trump has called this out correctly. I wish all PITT parents strength and patience and a MIRACLE in 2026. In peace..... XXX Una
Thank you for your story. It is a horrible reminder that this is still going on. It is a shocking trajectory, so destabilizing because you can see it coming & it’s impossible to stop (for many). But it is an important point to make & it is what has got me through the past 4 years, you actually are NOT broken. We are the sane ones & how we are regarded is beyond cruel. My husband has resigned himself to the view that our sons will likely hit rock bottom before they let us back into their lives. It is a difficult ‘hope’ to live with. PITT parents are with me everyday x
I'm so sorry. Your story is so familiar, to so many parents. We need more people to listen. We're going through a similar situation. Daughter now trans, identified suddenly in grad school. Good family, Christian college. Didn't help. The minute they got to her, she was hooked on "trans." We fought her for two years, ended up estranged. So this year, we got her to come home for Christmas. She's now 28, on T and has removed her breasts. It's beyond heartbreaking. We tried to be inclusive and loving, but all we learned is that she's so much worse off "trans." She's drinking excessively (she was sober), she's angry and picked a fight with her (very affirming) sister Christmas eve, her beauty and style is now hidden in sweatpants and a terrible mullet cut, she's gained a lot of weight and is no longer fit, she's miserable. None of this "care" has brought her any "joy." We have no idea what to do! She's talking to us again now, but it was so painful for us. I don't know that it's worth it to put her sister, or us through that again. Maybe we'll have to accept a relationship from a distance? It's horrible. I'm so sorry. The pain is horrific. Sending hugs and support! You're no alone!
"none of this care has brought her any joy"
that is true in my family as well.
Gender affirming care (GAC) is medical fraud; it creates much more harm than it provides benefits.
I hope the current federal government succeeds in shutting down pediatric GAC. Then we need to shut down young adult GAC.
I agree! In this new year, how can the parents come together in a more powerful way. I wish this administration was able to read our comments. If he could see the pictures and hear our stories.
Another parent. Your story is very sad. Praying for both our kids.
I’m so sorry. It is evil, what is happening in the field of medicine & psychiatry. Our child went into a psych ward for suicidal ideation & came out having been affirmed as transgender. How is a suicidal child encouraged to make decisions like this? They also encouraged to blame parents for every unhappiness & are told to make demands & ultimatums & cut them off if they don’t capitulate. THAT is abuse.
precisely the experience my family had.
GAC is indeed abuse of the worst sort. These doctors should be sued to oblivion.
As a medical professional myself who took an oath to do no harm, it appalls me that they was no major organized objection to this from any professional group. They all are a bunch of cowards that valued their incomes over harm to children. I am disgusted. Not from nurses, doctors, psychiatrists. They all drank the kool aid even though the emperor had no clothes on.
I am sorry for your brokenness. It is a feeling most of us here know very well. I am praying for you and your family. I lost my daughter to this cult too, but I continue to pray that she will find herself back home, first to God and then me. I pray for al the hurting families.
My daughter’s ride into this hell was also during Covid and her 2nd year of college. I am praying for your son, as well as your entire family.
Our stories are very similar. It began when our son was 15; he is now 36. We tried for many years to maintain contact, closeness, and support. However, as the years have passed, we have come to recognize that this CULT has our son thoroughly indoctrinated; nothing we can say will change his course. After a very intense and determined effort at communication and reconciliation this past summer, he finally cut us off completely, but not before we reiterated our undying love for him.
I know that I have done all that is humanly possible to help him, to reach him. I have now entrusted him to God completely and am choosing not to allow his dysphoria to destroy what is left of my marriage, my family, and my life. God will take care of it. I pray for him daily, intensely and intentionally. But I no longer obsess over him. I know that he is in God's loving care.
It is tragic that the parents and families this CULT has destroyed or damaged do not have the support of ANY part of our culture. Unlike the parents of the Moonie Cult of the 70s, who were applauded and assisted in kidnapping and deprogramming their kids, we are maligned, cancelled, and persecuted. BUT! We know that we are just as right and this CULT is just as evil. Stay the course. Trust God. Things are definitely changing; the world is waking up. It won't be immediate, but we will be vindicated.
May God have mercy on our children. God bless you!
Wow 20 years of this for you🥺I am in year one and now fear the long term effects of my child’s incidental run in with a group of drag queens who said she did nice make-up. The drag queens judged a”Emo prom” and crowned my child queen- at 19 getting her to go to the drag clubs where it was cool to be a female impersonating a female drag queen/ soon they had her believing she was really a man.
College seems to be the key to indoctrination...(if they haven't already been captured into the cult in late grade school or high school). These institutions are vectors - the "rainbow clubs & "safe space LGBTQlmnop" groups are responsible. The internet doesn't help. It's a shame, we're losing all these people to this cult. The lawsuits should start against these schools.
Welcome. I am sorry that you are going through this. It's probably the hardest thing you will ever go through. Our 21-year-old is holding off because we said we would cut off any college funding if she did any medicalization. Phew!!! We bought ourselves a few years. But we know she will go on HRT as soon as she gets our last payment. Praying for you and everyone else that is struggling through this process.
well, you should be aware that plenty of colleges have funding for special "trans-fellowships" that can be used if parents cut of funding.
yes, that's a thing.
Holy crap.
Excuse my French.
Yes - cut them off - no cell phone payments, no education, no nothing. They're adults. If they're being provided financially, they have no reason to focus on LIVING & surviving.
I never understood parents who pay for everything & continue to allow them to use their health benefits to access these damaging drugs & surgeries.
CUT them off. Reality check!
💯 agreed. First thing I did was cut off funding for anything. However, as an insurance agency owner, it's frustrating to know we're all still paying for the cult addiction as it's built into health insurance policies as "medically necessary" over 18. Until that is cut off, they still get a lot of the craziness paid for, particularly in some states. My daughter went to Sacramento "the trans Capital" fit this slow suicide of affliction that has severed our family, especially her mother 🥹. All communication and all empathy. She was so loving before.
Welcome, and I am sorry you've had to join our secret society. It sounds all too similar to so many other stories. My child is almost 21 and in her junior year of college, medicalized for a year and half without our knowing and has since stopped because we threatened to stop paying for college. It has been a roller coaster. Once she graduates, we feel that we lose the last of our leverage and that she'll resume being on testosterone. It has been a process to begin to accept that. We will never affirm her as our son. I think that she is of the type that will have to hit her own medical or mental health bottom in order to snap out of this. Nothing we say or do is going to rescue her now. Praying for your family. This cancer doesn't discriminate in who it metastasizes to.
The hardest thing to realize is that we have no control. All we can do is stay in the truth and pray.
I am so sorry to hear your all-too-familiar story. You've come to the right place. I have 2 sons as well, and have lived in this madness for 11 years. We have an intact family, homeschooled, went to church, had both boys go all the way through scouting to attain their Eagle rank. It did not matter. Our culture is immersed in this ideology. I later learned that many of those scouting friends, big-time gamers and anime fans, also went down the trans rabbit hole. Even my mainline church has entered the political fray, on the wrong side, of course. I wish I had had the resources that are available now. I would check out all the resources on Genspect.org. I would work hard to find that delicate balance between holding onto your relationship with your son and staying true to your values, even if it means not paying for an education you know will make things worse. Just be clear on everything you do. I would also be sure to talk all this over with your younger son and shower him with your attention. This trans ideology steals all the attention in the family.
I’m sorry your family is going through this too. Try to keep a warm connection. Love bomb him. Find other activities to do with your son, games, movies (find some that may get him thinking about cults). Read up on how to get a loved one out of a cult - a good resource is “Coping with cult involvement: A handbook for families and friends” on the ICSA website. There are quite a few parent groups available and for adult boys.
I wish our numbers were declining instead of increasing. But we are here to support you.
This is a long hard road. Your son needs you to be loving and compassionate and true to your own values -- it sounds like you are all of these things. The pressure to affirm is relentless, but warmth, kindness, and courage (and the work of @stoicmom) have helped me build a path of connection with my 24 yo TID. She still holds to the identity, but less firmly, and she now asks for my input on important decisions. @therapyfirst is a good place for support as well.
I am so happy to hear that you continue to have a connection with your daughter! When I looked up Therapy First, I was discouraged to see that they align with WPATH....
From their website:
WPATH’s Standards of Care Version 8 explicitly states that therapy “carried out in the context of supporting an adolescent with self-discovery is not considered reparative therapy, as long as there is no a priori goal to change or promote one particular gender identity or expression.” Similarly, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, in its policy on conversion therapy, affirms that it “in no way detracts from the standard of care, which requires that clinicians facilitate the developmentally appropriate, open exploration of sexual orientation, gender identity, and/or gender expression, without any predetermined outcome.”
Therapy First fully aligns with these standards.
Therapy First is not endorsing the whole WPATH agenda, they are simply pointing out that even WPATH supports therapy. ... Some trans-oriented medical specialists skip therapy entirely.