Thank you so much for the information. What you have compiled and interpreted is valuable. What this all points out to me is the horrible lack of honesty here in America. Our loved ones caught in this insanity have been sold a sordid, sad pack of lies from start to finish. The mentally ill have been victimized, coerced, and brainwashed. (Even doing it to themselves, per Robert Westman of Minnesota. May his victims rest in peace.) This has all been perpetuated under the guise of professionalism and science. What the psychologist treating my three grandchildren did to them, with her education and knowledge is nothing less than demonic. Where are these people going to hide when it becomes common knowledge what they have foisted onto the sick and the vulnerable? Praying for the Lord's justice and for His mercy. Love, Indio
Would also like to investigate and know the arrests, the crimes, the assaults, the murder rate of people pretending to be the opposite sex. It appears that for such a small subset of the population that the rates are rather high for reasons unknown to the scientific community, but known to all of us.
I believe that the reason for the monosyllable "trans" is to mask the critical distinction between transsexuals, who are genuine, and transgenders, who are not.
But transsexuals are too rare (5-6000 in the entire USA) to build a cult around, and anyway they aren't interested.
Transsexuals have been around for centuries, they have clearly defined diagnostic criteria, while transgenders ("trans") seem to have sprung into existence around 2009.
Interesting. I am not quite sure what to make of all these studies because I wonder if MTF subjects and FTM subjects could be interviewed today in every US state that we might find some valid truth. Are these trans-people completely fine with their body changes? Looking at their scarred bodies cannot feel good. Are they comfortable with the side-effects of the cross-sex hormones or are they terrified and worried? Are they able to have a romantic relationship with anyone? Are they truly happy being isolated from their parents and siblings? Do they ever have regrets and doubts? I would imagine that living a lie and "pretending" to be the opposite sex must be challenging and depressing. We need newer information and case studies. Suicide happens. But I believe it most likely happens AFTER beginning the transformation process and that all the doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists who make the bold statements to parents in front of these confused children by saying "would you rather have a dead son or a live trans daughter" or "would you rather have a dead daughter or a live trans son" are planting seeds, seeds that fester and nag on their innocent minds. These educated medical professionals are at fault, they are to blame, and they should be held accountable!
"Compared with that for nontransgender male individuals, the IR of suicide mortality was significantly higher among transgender individuals assigned male sex at birth (aIRR, 4.5; 95% CI, 2.6-8.0). There were no suicide deaths among transgender individuals assigned female sex at birth. "
"Sex assigned at birth" is an idiocy. It is from simple observation and has higher accuracy than any test a hospital does in its laboratories. It is only wrong, and then only briefly, in the case of males with androgen insensitivity syndrome.
Thank you. It also brings into focus the lie that the exponential increase in trans-identifying kids is because they feel more comfortable coming out as trans now. If that was true and only affirmation treatment can save trans-identifying kids, then there'd be tons of kids in the past who committed suicide. Like all cults, the trans cult is built on lies, lies, and more lies.
I didn't know there were so many organizations that are "experimenting". What is the purpose of their existence? Their "studies" show one thing and they do another, so???? English is not my native native language so I have to be carefully when I read scientific papers, but my language barrier doesn't impede me to see that these studies are a bunch of crap. In many countries as Norway hormone therapy has been banned for the under 18 y/o and I think I read something about Denmark doing the same thing. The study I would like to have is the connection between transgenderism or mental health with religion and spiritual countries, because my premise it is that countries that are more spiritual oriented have less mental problems, but God forbid that the 'scientists" do a study of that indole what show their bias.
One of the things I noticed it is that in two of the studies at least the word "completed" is used as the treatment is completed in some transgender people but that term is totally inaccurate at less you are talking about the organ was removed (phallus) or the breast is removed, but regarding transgender care drugs is never completed because the moment you stop with the hormones you "return" to your biological real self. Nature will never agreed with the artificial imposition, the fake appearance and the mental delusion or denial of who your are. Never! So I concluded that these "studies" are not being sincere and made to confuse or justified. Also %20 of suicides takes in account only the dead that are 50 people in the study but the study was performed in more than 15000 people, so It is much better considered the total of the people and how many suicide among the 15000 and that will give us a % 15000x20 over 100, so it is a lot of zeros before the number.
We know that stats can be manipulated, people trust too much in stats as they are scientific proof but that is not truth. Who do pay for those studies? I hope it is not us!
The only truth about transgenderism is that is a mental disorder, an existential one and must be treated as we treat another mental conditions not increasing the delusion or supporting the delusion because the doctors and health professionals that support the delusions of patient are more sick that the patients and they shouldn't be exercising medicine and must be accountable.
With the history that this country has of experimentation on humans I would not discard that this transgender cult is also an experimentation now that I realized that there are so many "studies" and cases being followed. A new aspect that I didn't considerer before.
One piece of data from this examination the seems to support the narrative that if trans youth are not provided with transgender healthcare suicide risk will increase was from the Wiepjes 2020 study where it states that the frequency of suicide for TGW decreased over time, that is it decreased once transgendered healthcare is begun and completed. However, the rest of the results from this study indicate that the rate of completed suicide for TGF’s does not change despite having received transgender health care. "
Is it not possible that in order for the rate of suicides to remain constant, there would also have to be a rate of increasing potential to commit suicide in the remaining population, as people inclined to commit suicide make the attempt and either succeed, or possibly trigger additional treatment that mutes their internal urge to suicide?
May you be protected from "cancel" culture. May the good forces unite to speedily remove those who don't want you to share important information that can save lives.
I really appreciate this summary of the research on "trans" identified people who die by suicide. I have reviewed these studies multiple times, but still can't offer anyone a well documented professional opinion on the subject. As Mr. Watson and all other unbiased reviewers have concluded, the methods and/or data are so weak in all of them it is not possible to answer questions about which treatments made which groups of people better or worse.
One problem is that people who undertake extensive use of hormones and/or surgeries probably differ in some ways from those who do not. People who commit to transformations of their bodies may have more severe gender dysphoria, body dysmorphia, or other mental health problems to begin with.
A second problem is that some of the people getting "gender treatment" were receiving psychotherapy and others were not, and we know nothing about who was receiving what kind of therapy for how long or how it affected the rate of completed suicide. The same is true for treatment with psychiatric medications.
A third problem is that the studies that include large numbers of people are mostly retrospective analyses of information in patients' medical charts. This kind of research typically does not tell us what the suicide rate would have been for the "trans" identified people if they had not gone through "gender care." Even though the rates of suicide can be very high for the groups that completed medical transitions, it might have been even higher if they had not done so.
The main ethical issue, however, is that the healthcare professionals who deliver "gender care" are the ones who have the obligation to prove that what they are doing is medically necessary, safe and effective. The burden of proof does not lie on those of us who question whether it is. And the "gender care" industry has clearly not fulfilled their responsibility. What they are doing is not "evidence based."
I've read many subtack posts from psychotherapists who claim that they have never had a "trans" patient who was not already diagnosed and medicated for multiple ailments. Yet at the first mention of "trans," however sudden and precipitous, all comorbidities fly out the window and treating the new "trans" factor comes to the foreground, and the other ailments, however severe, however grave, recede to the background.
The patients' rapid acquisition of the profligate neologisms of "trans" ("hate", "transphobia", "cisheteronormativity", "genocide"...) and the insistence on magic pronouns and a new "identity" are ignored.
This cannot ethically be viewed as medicine. It's more like Mengele with anesthesia.
Yeah, I also have difficulty understanding the perspective that "if it is due to other things, those need to be addressed first." First of all, the therapist is not going to be able to cure the patient of autism. Second, even if it were possible to cure the host of other serious disorders that the patient is presenting, there is not going to be a core of "real trans" left to treat when the other things are gone. An obsession with removing healthy body parts is a pathology not an identity.
Yes, the very idea of doing these retrospective “studies” is fake science.
From other areas of fraud in medicine, we know some questions that should be asked. 1. Who paid for the studies? 2. Did the study set out a falsifiable hypothesis before collecting data? 3. Were the data openly published, or was access to the data restricted? 4. What was omitted in the report summaries?
We know that the "Dutch protocol" began with conclusions and chose its subjects based on those who would most favor the canned conclusion. And this fraudulent study forms the foundation of the entire phony legendarium of "trans."
WOW. Your article is enlightening. I hope that most mental professionals would be aligned with its perspective. This transgender issue is so horrible in all its aspects that it is hard to phantom how this got so out of hand, my first thinking is money. I do not think that there are one professional that is thinking in the well being of confused people, no one, because the ones who are sincere at the beginning looks to me that they have fallen into the transgender train too forgetting that human beings are involved. The fact that the health system is broken here as it is in UK doesn't help. There is not really much support for people with mental conditions and parents are alone. We need to come back to real therapy and treat the condition of GD at a mental level not covering it up with "make up". The problem I see is that the professionals are more demented than the patients, the loonies are "helping" the confused, the blinds are "rescuing" the ones who still have a good eye on them. It is the worst time in history to be confused about identity because they are monsters out there that want to benefit of your misery. At the end it is an spiritual problem of modern society. Well done, continue enlightening us!
"Transition or suicide" is extortion and should be taken to court.
The real suicide surge comes after transition, after years of hormones and especially after surgery, when young adults outgrow the "trans" fad and realize they have permanently screwed up their health.
Hey, the Ruuska study control group is of CIS yourh. NOT trans youth. Jason
We don't need a word for "not 'trans'" any more than we need a word for "two-legged" humans.
Here is another take on the Politics of Estrogen https://shorturl.at/0YVlb
Thank you so much for the information. What you have compiled and interpreted is valuable. What this all points out to me is the horrible lack of honesty here in America. Our loved ones caught in this insanity have been sold a sordid, sad pack of lies from start to finish. The mentally ill have been victimized, coerced, and brainwashed. (Even doing it to themselves, per Robert Westman of Minnesota. May his victims rest in peace.) This has all been perpetuated under the guise of professionalism and science. What the psychologist treating my three grandchildren did to them, with her education and knowledge is nothing less than demonic. Where are these people going to hide when it becomes common knowledge what they have foisted onto the sick and the vulnerable? Praying for the Lord's justice and for His mercy. Love, Indio
Would also like to investigate and know the arrests, the crimes, the assaults, the murder rate of people pretending to be the opposite sex. It appears that for such a small subset of the population that the rates are rather high for reasons unknown to the scientific community, but known to all of us.
I believe that the reason for the monosyllable "trans" is to mask the critical distinction between transsexuals, who are genuine, and transgenders, who are not.
But transsexuals are too rare (5-6000 in the entire USA) to build a cult around, and anyway they aren't interested.
Transsexuals have been around for centuries, they have clearly defined diagnostic criteria, while transgenders ("trans") seem to have sprung into existence around 2009.
Interesting. I am not quite sure what to make of all these studies because I wonder if MTF subjects and FTM subjects could be interviewed today in every US state that we might find some valid truth. Are these trans-people completely fine with their body changes? Looking at their scarred bodies cannot feel good. Are they comfortable with the side-effects of the cross-sex hormones or are they terrified and worried? Are they able to have a romantic relationship with anyone? Are they truly happy being isolated from their parents and siblings? Do they ever have regrets and doubts? I would imagine that living a lie and "pretending" to be the opposite sex must be challenging and depressing. We need newer information and case studies. Suicide happens. But I believe it most likely happens AFTER beginning the transformation process and that all the doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists who make the bold statements to parents in front of these confused children by saying "would you rather have a dead son or a live trans daughter" or "would you rather have a dead daughter or a live trans son" are planting seeds, seeds that fester and nag on their innocent minds. These educated medical professionals are at fault, they are to blame, and they should be held accountable!
Thank you!
A point about the Erlangsen study:
"Compared with that for nontransgender male individuals, the IR of suicide mortality was significantly higher among transgender individuals assigned male sex at birth (aIRR, 4.5; 95% CI, 2.6-8.0). There were no suicide deaths among transgender individuals assigned female sex at birth. "
Ie all those suicides were men.
"Sex assigned at birth" is an idiocy. It is from simple observation and has higher accuracy than any test a hospital does in its laboratories. It is only wrong, and then only briefly, in the case of males with androgen insensitivity syndrome.
Don't use the phrase "sex assigned at birth."
Thank you. It also brings into focus the lie that the exponential increase in trans-identifying kids is because they feel more comfortable coming out as trans now. If that was true and only affirmation treatment can save trans-identifying kids, then there'd be tons of kids in the past who committed suicide. Like all cults, the trans cult is built on lies, lies, and more lies.
They'd be piled up to the sky.
Totally agree this is a cult!
I didn't know there were so many organizations that are "experimenting". What is the purpose of their existence? Their "studies" show one thing and they do another, so???? English is not my native native language so I have to be carefully when I read scientific papers, but my language barrier doesn't impede me to see that these studies are a bunch of crap. In many countries as Norway hormone therapy has been banned for the under 18 y/o and I think I read something about Denmark doing the same thing. The study I would like to have is the connection between transgenderism or mental health with religion and spiritual countries, because my premise it is that countries that are more spiritual oriented have less mental problems, but God forbid that the 'scientists" do a study of that indole what show their bias.
One of the things I noticed it is that in two of the studies at least the word "completed" is used as the treatment is completed in some transgender people but that term is totally inaccurate at less you are talking about the organ was removed (phallus) or the breast is removed, but regarding transgender care drugs is never completed because the moment you stop with the hormones you "return" to your biological real self. Nature will never agreed with the artificial imposition, the fake appearance and the mental delusion or denial of who your are. Never! So I concluded that these "studies" are not being sincere and made to confuse or justified. Also %20 of suicides takes in account only the dead that are 50 people in the study but the study was performed in more than 15000 people, so It is much better considered the total of the people and how many suicide among the 15000 and that will give us a % 15000x20 over 100, so it is a lot of zeros before the number.
We know that stats can be manipulated, people trust too much in stats as they are scientific proof but that is not truth. Who do pay for those studies? I hope it is not us!
The only truth about transgenderism is that is a mental disorder, an existential one and must be treated as we treat another mental conditions not increasing the delusion or supporting the delusion because the doctors and health professionals that support the delusions of patient are more sick that the patients and they shouldn't be exercising medicine and must be accountable.
With the history that this country has of experimentation on humans I would not discard that this transgender cult is also an experimentation now that I realized that there are so many "studies" and cases being followed. A new aspect that I didn't considerer before.
Wrt
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One piece of data from this examination the seems to support the narrative that if trans youth are not provided with transgender healthcare suicide risk will increase was from the Wiepjes 2020 study where it states that the frequency of suicide for TGW decreased over time, that is it decreased once transgendered healthcare is begun and completed. However, the rest of the results from this study indicate that the rate of completed suicide for TGF’s does not change despite having received transgender health care. "
Is it not possible that in order for the rate of suicides to remain constant, there would also have to be a rate of increasing potential to commit suicide in the remaining population, as people inclined to commit suicide make the attempt and either succeed, or possibly trigger additional treatment that mutes their internal urge to suicide?
Thank you.
But I am now being investigated for "harmful" tweets.
I'm facing deregistration
May you be protected from "cancel" culture. May the good forces unite to speedily remove those who don't want you to share important information that can save lives.
Oh, dear. I hope that the Graham Linehan case opens things up a little in the UK.
I really appreciate your work and am always passing along this one of yours:
“Why ‘Gender Dysphoria’ is a lie” by Clinical psychologist Pamala Williams”
https://web.archive.org/web/20250120044738/https://dionneinlondon.substack.com/p/why-gender-dysphoria-is-a-lie
I really appreciate this summary of the research on "trans" identified people who die by suicide. I have reviewed these studies multiple times, but still can't offer anyone a well documented professional opinion on the subject. As Mr. Watson and all other unbiased reviewers have concluded, the methods and/or data are so weak in all of them it is not possible to answer questions about which treatments made which groups of people better or worse.
One problem is that people who undertake extensive use of hormones and/or surgeries probably differ in some ways from those who do not. People who commit to transformations of their bodies may have more severe gender dysphoria, body dysmorphia, or other mental health problems to begin with.
A second problem is that some of the people getting "gender treatment" were receiving psychotherapy and others were not, and we know nothing about who was receiving what kind of therapy for how long or how it affected the rate of completed suicide. The same is true for treatment with psychiatric medications.
A third problem is that the studies that include large numbers of people are mostly retrospective analyses of information in patients' medical charts. This kind of research typically does not tell us what the suicide rate would have been for the "trans" identified people if they had not gone through "gender care." Even though the rates of suicide can be very high for the groups that completed medical transitions, it might have been even higher if they had not done so.
The main ethical issue, however, is that the healthcare professionals who deliver "gender care" are the ones who have the obligation to prove that what they are doing is medically necessary, safe and effective. The burden of proof does not lie on those of us who question whether it is. And the "gender care" industry has clearly not fulfilled their responsibility. What they are doing is not "evidence based."
I've read many subtack posts from psychotherapists who claim that they have never had a "trans" patient who was not already diagnosed and medicated for multiple ailments. Yet at the first mention of "trans," however sudden and precipitous, all comorbidities fly out the window and treating the new "trans" factor comes to the foreground, and the other ailments, however severe, however grave, recede to the background.
The patients' rapid acquisition of the profligate neologisms of "trans" ("hate", "transphobia", "cisheteronormativity", "genocide"...) and the insistence on magic pronouns and a new "identity" are ignored.
This cannot ethically be viewed as medicine. It's more like Mengele with anesthesia.
Hey Chris, nice to see your post!
Yeah, I also have difficulty understanding the perspective that "if it is due to other things, those need to be addressed first." First of all, the therapist is not going to be able to cure the patient of autism. Second, even if it were possible to cure the host of other serious disorders that the patient is presenting, there is not going to be a core of "real trans" left to treat when the other things are gone. An obsession with removing healthy body parts is a pathology not an identity.
It's all a lie.
Please read my article:
https://x.com/Psychgirl211/status/1850987337133547941
Yes, the very idea of doing these retrospective “studies” is fake science.
From other areas of fraud in medicine, we know some questions that should be asked. 1. Who paid for the studies? 2. Did the study set out a falsifiable hypothesis before collecting data? 3. Were the data openly published, or was access to the data restricted? 4. What was omitted in the report summaries?
We know that the "Dutch protocol" began with conclusions and chose its subjects based on those who would most favor the canned conclusion. And this fraudulent study forms the foundation of the entire phony legendarium of "trans."
WOW. Your article is enlightening. I hope that most mental professionals would be aligned with its perspective. This transgender issue is so horrible in all its aspects that it is hard to phantom how this got so out of hand, my first thinking is money. I do not think that there are one professional that is thinking in the well being of confused people, no one, because the ones who are sincere at the beginning looks to me that they have fallen into the transgender train too forgetting that human beings are involved. The fact that the health system is broken here as it is in UK doesn't help. There is not really much support for people with mental conditions and parents are alone. We need to come back to real therapy and treat the condition of GD at a mental level not covering it up with "make up". The problem I see is that the professionals are more demented than the patients, the loonies are "helping" the confused, the blinds are "rescuing" the ones who still have a good eye on them. It is the worst time in history to be confused about identity because they are monsters out there that want to benefit of your misery. At the end it is an spiritual problem of modern society. Well done, continue enlightening us!
"Transition or suicide" is extortion and should be taken to court.
The real suicide surge comes after transition, after years of hormones and especially after surgery, when young adults outgrow the "trans" fad and realize they have permanently screwed up their health.