As a group of us (transsexuals, detransitioners, desisters, parents and medical/psychological professionals) waited to testify in support of bills to protect minors from sterilization and permanent medical harm in Texas, we watched the bill opponents gather. They were the usual suspects, the LGBTQI+ community that believes that gender nonconformity should be medicalized through “gender affirming care”, not just accepted, nurtured and celebrated. From their midst emerged a less expected crowd: clergy from some of the most mainstream faith communities in America, Episcopal and Methodist among them, with their white collars on, rainbows and trans colors affixed to their garments. The believers among us could not help asking ourselves: how can it be that our trusted faith leaders are here advocating for medical interventions that will turn questioning, confused, gay, and gender non-conforming children into lifelong medical patients with uncertain outcomes?
1. Note that the bishop who chastised Trump from the pulpit seemingly has approximately 53 million “reasons” for the stance she takes.
2. The old snake is in the garden of the Church and we have been forewarned: Matthew 7:15 ESV “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” - Jesus
It's easy to understand why someone would push the trans movement. It's also easy to arrest it given time and perseverance.
First, remove any belief that there is a god, and you're left with the conclusion that you are your own God and don't have any rules to obey save those you find the most attractive.
Second, let kids make their own decisions at a young age, which includes all those choices that can either lead to success and/or failure. Even permanent lifelong failure is an option since you'll never be able to make a law to stop surgical intervention happening everywhere, and parents are usually as dumb as the kids they raise. Why else would so many letters to this page be filled with parents who ignored the media on this altogether and got blindsided to how therapists and schools were pushing this movement until it affected them personally?!
Third and most crucial, make those who regret their irreversible decision become a living, breathing billboard of what a walking mistake looks like!
These detransitioners should serve as an example to what stupidity will lead to at a young age. Their stories should be heard and understood in the classrooms, the pulpits and throughout the media so other young impressionable types can be imprinted with their thinking to alert their good sense of well being to danger. And given the chance to catwalk before a new class of potential transition fools, the truth about what a BAD choice will get you will be more powerful than any propaganda the kids are receiving today about the whole operation.
It's no different than former drug addicts or convicts telling their stories at schools to inform kids what a life of crime and vice will get you in the end.
The lesson is not to prevent kids from transitioning after a certain age, some will always be lost causes, just make it so that they realize they need to pay it forward to the next generation to try and stop at least some from making the same mentally insane error that they did.
One of the key tools in the anti-trans closet is humor. We need to remember that the trans are desperate for us to take them seriously. We need to stop taking them seriously, and to start laughing at them.
In this regard, I am starting a movement to call all trans "women" "Loretta". This is in reference to the famous scene in "Life of Brian" where the male actor reveals that he wants to have a baby, and to use the name "Loretta". So, if you are a trans woman, you are "Loretta" to me.
I appreciate the intention of this letter and agree that clergy need to be called to account for their support of this harmful ideology. Please, though, stop using terms like "LGBTIQ+" when what you mean is "transgender activists" or "gender ideologues." The conflation of the historical gay community with the current madness was/is a strategy on the part of trans activists to elicit sympathy from unthinking progressives; what they now promote has nothing to do with what lesbians and gay men fought for in decades past. In fact, trans ideology disproportionately harms females, and especially lesbians, of whom I am one. So, please stop implying through use of this bastardized acronym that we support harmful gender ideology. An effective resistance cannot be rooted in the language trans activists strategically promote. (This includes adopting "preferred pronouns" as a gesture of "respect." Endorsing a lie is not respectful; it is, in fact, actively harmful in elevating delusion over material reality.)
It was an evasive non-answer. I went away not knowing if there is a policy or not. Beyond using sex-observed-at birth, and not using preferred pronouns I don’t know what else the school can do. I doubt the policy is to call out the student in any way. What piqued my interest in the school was last year I happened to see a work sheet in my granddaughter’s school bag that was published by an SEL group.
I’m not sure your faith in the good faith and sincerity of these pro-trans-the-kids is warranted. It makes for a nice essay but I suspect these “religious leaders “ aren’t really so ignorant. They know who butters their bread and they step in line. I gather the Russian clergy had their yes men under the communists, too. Fake religious leaders cater to the Regime. Nothing new, nothing innocent, nothing noble.
I agree. Like many politicians, some religious (and secular church-like) leaders embrace this ideology (and other forms of “woke”) with willful ignorance because it advances their status as leaders of like-minded flock. It’s about ego, not truth nor any nobler explanation.
If one is deeply in a particular political identity, the politics and team override individual thought.
In this situation the Western progressives have allowed the trans movement to team up. For every rational question about the explosion of trans youth there's a pat (and easily debunked) answer. They trust their "in" group and look no further. It's more human nature and wanting to fit in than deliberate malice. Nobody wants to step up and be the Democratic Party version of Liz Cheney and be cast out.
I want to step up and be the Democratic Party version of Liz Cheney and be cast out. So, increasingly, do many others. I want to live by principle more than I want to belong to a mindless herd.
I agree with what you're saying about human nature and (general, though not universal) lack of malice. But having now seen clearly that -- as an army travels on its stomach -- this ideology travels on idiot compassion, we need to call each other to a more conscious, less credulous response. We are, after all (at least ostensibly) capable of rationality and principled choice and thus able to extricate ourselves from embracing and perpetuating harm. We should quit indulging less in ourselves and others.
When God is Absent in Our Life: Evil becomes the way of life!
• We cannot permit what the Church forbids.
• We cannot forbid what the Church permits.
• We must protect all Human Life, from Conception to Natural Death.
• Man’s laws cannot make moral what God has declared immoral. Even if sin is “legalized” by Man’s Laws, it is still a sin in the eyes of God.
• God’s own Word shall never change, no matter what his creation, which is humankind, deems as the new ‘reality’!
• GOD will NEVER approve of what GOD has condemned since the beginning of time, no matter what Man-Made laws are passed!
• “Yes, we are to love God and love each other. But if we love God, we will seek to obey His Word. Jesus told us, ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments’ (John 14:15). God defines what is sin, not us; and His Word is clear that homosexuality is sin,” – Franklin Graham
• The Ten Commandments were not created to be a pick-and-choose salad bar.
• Where does it say that GOD’s OWN Commandments shall be periodically updated?
• Where in the Bible does it say that GOD will allow YOU to decide, (or vote on) which of the Ten Commandments are currently relevant?
1. Any so-called “christian church” that accepts abortion, suicide, euthanasia, transgenderism, and/or homosexuality as an accepted practice, is NOT CHRISTIAN!
2. Abortion, euthanasia, suicide, transgenderism, and homosexuality are ALWAYS SINS!
3. Any person or church that accepts “chrislam” or “christianized islam” as an accepted practice and belief is NOT CHRISTIAN!
4. Anyone who supports any of the above is giving homage to Satan!
It is: “Love the sinner, but hate the sin!” -- St. Augustine of Hippo, 354 – 430 AD
Islam rejects God as a Father, Islam rejects Jesus as the divine Son of God and Islam rejects the Jewish people as the ancient inheritors of God’s promises. There is now a heretical movement that is quickly infecting the “christian” church with its creeping influence, called “Chrislam” that we must stop.
No, true. But the religious wacks on this site are damaging the real thing that is needed - solidarity. I don't care what kind of crap you believe in. Don't go on and on about Geezus and that kind of stuff. The bullshit about the "commandments from gawd" is moronic and unhelpful.
Believe whatever you want. I really don't care. But the aggressive gawd-blather is not helpful, and is off-putting for those of us who are not gawd-deranged.
MOSLEMS BELIEVE IN A FALSE ‘JESUS’ WHOM THEY CALL “ISA”.
The name of the self-proclaimed false ‘prophet’ Mohammad is found in only 4 places in the entire koran, but the name of Jesus (‘Isa’) is found in 25 places. The koran gives more preference to the name of Jesus!
However, Islam denies that Jesus is the Son of God, His Deity, Crucifixion, and His Death & Resurrection, however Islam makes Jesus into a barbarian Warlord who will return to kill us.
Islam also claims that their ‘Isa’ was just another prophet, however they do admit that Isa could and did perform miracles, such as the Apocryphal boy Jesus turning clay birds that He had formed, into living creatures.
In two places in the koran, Mohammad openly admitted he (Mohammad) could do no miracles to show any proof of divinity or divine calling (Surah 17:90-95; and 3:183, also see: 29:50-51)
Muslims falsely believe that ‘Isa’ is the same person as Jesus of Nazareth described in the New Testament, however Isa has does NOT have the same attributes as Jesus.
BTW: The actual Arabic language term for Jesus as used by Arab Christians is Yasū’ (Yasu’ with a line above the ‘u’) Pronounced “Ya-sue-a” (with a short a)
Mohammad was both “DIED and BURIED” in Medina and also “ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN” from the Dome of the Rock Mosque, immediately after depositing his footprints on the rock. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MOSQUE WAS NOT STARTED UNTIL 689! (Recall that Mohammad died in 632, that’s a difference of Fifty-Seven years later!)
It is a distance of over 750 miles from Medina to Jerusalem by today’s roads – Now that’s a real “miracle”!
The koranic imitation ‘Jesus’ (Isa) has many special features like he was born without the assistance of a man and that the Moslem “god” created him from a part of his own spirit and that the devil didn’t dare to touch him after he was born.
But Mohammad, “‘allah’s’ Final Messenger”, was born as a ‘normal’ human being, with ONLY ‘normal’ human abilities, and died (from complications of a low dose of poison, after suffering greatly for three years after being poisoned by a Jewish woman at Khyber) and was buried as all normal human flesh!
I have STUDIED Islam since just after the Feb. 26, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing. That’s over twenty-five years! That’s longer than most College Students have been alive.
“I have studied the koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction that, by and large, there have been few religions in the world as deadly to man as that of Muhammad…
I, therefore, regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress!”
-- Alexis de Tocqueville
Alexis, I concur completely!
Although believers of Islam, may think or say whatever they want to about Islam, it doesn’t change what Islam says about itself. As a documented ideology the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Surah, and the other OFFICIAL Books concerning Islam, Islam exists independently of anyone’s opinion. As such, it may be studied objectively, apart from how anyone practices or chooses to interpret it.
The Qur’an plainly teaches that it is not only proper to kill in the name of Allah, but that it is required. Not all Muslims believe in killing over their religion, they may feel that way, however, it is out of ignorance of exactly what Islam teaches. Perhaps it is because they are more loyal to the moral law written in their hearts than they are to the details laid out by Muhammad. Those who put Islam first or know Islam about best, believe otherwise, that killing in the name of Allah is REQUIRED!
If these gawd-deranged zealots wish to take comfort in religion, fine. But I grow weary of the claim that the trans holocaust is due to our failure to become gawd-deranged. I'm an atheist. I oppose trans because I believe in reason and truth.
Southern Baptist. There is an association, and a doctrine to which members agree, but no close oversight. I am sure if a SBC (Southern Baptist Convention member) went rogue there would be talk, but Brother Mike has no boss, per se. As a matter of interest, our pastor is going to be nominated to “run” for president of the Florida SBC chapter. He was out of divinity school only a few years, and was 2 years younger than church by-laws required, but we voted to offer him the position of pastor. That was over 2 years ago, and we’ve never regretted it or looked back.
Yes. The Episcopal Church, and several other progressive churches (PCUSA, United Methodist, and just about every denomination that has the word "united" in its name) approve of abortion while claiming to be Christian. They're wolves, deceiving the sheep.
Wow, thank you for those references & congratulations on accepting nonconforming behaviour. I think if parents were more tolerant of sons growing long hair & painting their nails ( for example), fewer children would suddenly disappear at 18. Let teens be a little wild & crazy & even genderfluid without medicalizing it or tolerating drugs & other destructive abuse.
Deborah, personally I disagree. First, I think many of the trans identifying kids come from liberal progressive families that have no problem with long hair/nail polish in boys. Second, as much as I hate the overuse of this phrase , it's a slippery slope. Today a boy wants to paint his nails. Tomorrow he will put on a dress. The day after a bra to make the dress fit better. Third, let's say his parents are fine with hair/nails so he goes out with long hair , skirt. painted nails. He will be either teased mercilessly or encouraged in a fake saccarin way. It will not go unnoticed. He will either hate the attention and feel shamed (Which may lead him to wanting to actually look like a woman and blend in as one) or enjoy the attention (with the same result). There may be a high price to pay for such unconventional presentation so I can understand why parents would be worried. We don't live in an ideal world and should no sacrifice our children to the idea that the ideal world can be built with their help.
Moomin, I was thinking of the parents here who are shocked when their children disappear. People need a time in life to experiment, to make mistakes, to defy convention. If parents can overcome their own embarrassment & need for control , kids can get some of the craziness out before they leave home. Let your son wear a dress. Who cares? Medicalization is the enemy, the real danger. Don't set up a power contest that you will lose.
Studies show that social transition very often leads to medicalization. If that's the case then we should care. Shouldn't we? As for kids dissapearing, that's equal opportunity as well. Its not happening to rural conservative parents only. Start at the begining of PITT and read up 'til now.
I have read PITT. I have read about some parents excoriating their children's nonconforming appearances & wondering why their children ghost them. Find a middle ground, say social transition, and stay in touch. Saying you'll never accept transition drives them further into transition & away from you. You won't stop a true transsexual man from transitioning. I don't understand the nonbinary girls I'm encountering, but I'm certain they need love as well. Give them all the facts & let them decide. I can't imagine how difficult that will be, but it's better than alienating them. Unless you really can't love their transitioning selves. sigh.
The co-morbidity with ADHD, OCD, ASD makes it like an addiction. Transition is happiness, (just look at the influencers online who tell you it's euphoria, and that normal people have euphoria, all you need to do is change your sex!) and you just need to do it more to get the happiness part. If people would lurk on the transing reddits, or watch the influencer videos they'd see the way transition is pushed. And the data about how so many kids who get puberty blockers move right to wrong sex hormones and end up sterilized should be a big flashing caution sign.
I can't agree that co- morbidities are like addiction. Comorbidities need to be treated as the top priority, not the trans desire. I see it as escapism & a social contagion. I wonder about medical problems in the future, but I think the current gender movement is here to stay. I don't begin to understand what a nonbinary woman is.Maybe a nonbinary person who presents as femme.
Two thoughts:
1. Note that the bishop who chastised Trump from the pulpit seemingly has approximately 53 million “reasons” for the stance she takes.
2. The old snake is in the garden of the Church and we have been forewarned: Matthew 7:15 ESV “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” - Jesus
It's easy to understand why someone would push the trans movement. It's also easy to arrest it given time and perseverance.
First, remove any belief that there is a god, and you're left with the conclusion that you are your own God and don't have any rules to obey save those you find the most attractive.
Second, let kids make their own decisions at a young age, which includes all those choices that can either lead to success and/or failure. Even permanent lifelong failure is an option since you'll never be able to make a law to stop surgical intervention happening everywhere, and parents are usually as dumb as the kids they raise. Why else would so many letters to this page be filled with parents who ignored the media on this altogether and got blindsided to how therapists and schools were pushing this movement until it affected them personally?!
Third and most crucial, make those who regret their irreversible decision become a living, breathing billboard of what a walking mistake looks like!
These detransitioners should serve as an example to what stupidity will lead to at a young age. Their stories should be heard and understood in the classrooms, the pulpits and throughout the media so other young impressionable types can be imprinted with their thinking to alert their good sense of well being to danger. And given the chance to catwalk before a new class of potential transition fools, the truth about what a BAD choice will get you will be more powerful than any propaganda the kids are receiving today about the whole operation.
It's no different than former drug addicts or convicts telling their stories at schools to inform kids what a life of crime and vice will get you in the end.
The lesson is not to prevent kids from transitioning after a certain age, some will always be lost causes, just make it so that they realize they need to pay it forward to the next generation to try and stop at least some from making the same mentally insane error that they did.
Politics trumps religious belief ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Religious belief is a choice, just like one chooses their politics.
It's always the other guys that's bullshit, never one's own.
It's a cult. Not quite a religion of its own, gender just gloms on to yours.
Thank you...thank you....thank you
One of the key tools in the anti-trans closet is humor. We need to remember that the trans are desperate for us to take them seriously. We need to stop taking them seriously, and to start laughing at them.
In this regard, I am starting a movement to call all trans "women" "Loretta". This is in reference to the famous scene in "Life of Brian" where the male actor reveals that he wants to have a baby, and to use the name "Loretta". So, if you are a trans woman, you are "Loretta" to me.
I appreciate the intention of this letter and agree that clergy need to be called to account for their support of this harmful ideology. Please, though, stop using terms like "LGBTIQ+" when what you mean is "transgender activists" or "gender ideologues." The conflation of the historical gay community with the current madness was/is a strategy on the part of trans activists to elicit sympathy from unthinking progressives; what they now promote has nothing to do with what lesbians and gay men fought for in decades past. In fact, trans ideology disproportionately harms females, and especially lesbians, of whom I am one. So, please stop implying through use of this bastardized acronym that we support harmful gender ideology. An effective resistance cannot be rooted in the language trans activists strategically promote. (This includes adopting "preferred pronouns" as a gesture of "respect." Endorsing a lie is not respectful; it is, in fact, actively harmful in elevating delusion over material reality.)
It was an evasive non-answer. I went away not knowing if there is a policy or not. Beyond using sex-observed-at birth, and not using preferred pronouns I don’t know what else the school can do. I doubt the policy is to call out the student in any way. What piqued my interest in the school was last year I happened to see a work sheet in my granddaughter’s school bag that was published by an SEL group.
I’m not sure your faith in the good faith and sincerity of these pro-trans-the-kids is warranted. It makes for a nice essay but I suspect these “religious leaders “ aren’t really so ignorant. They know who butters their bread and they step in line. I gather the Russian clergy had their yes men under the communists, too. Fake religious leaders cater to the Regime. Nothing new, nothing innocent, nothing noble.
I agree. Like many politicians, some religious (and secular church-like) leaders embrace this ideology (and other forms of “woke”) with willful ignorance because it advances their status as leaders of like-minded flock. It’s about ego, not truth nor any nobler explanation.
If one is deeply in a particular political identity, the politics and team override individual thought.
In this situation the Western progressives have allowed the trans movement to team up. For every rational question about the explosion of trans youth there's a pat (and easily debunked) answer. They trust their "in" group and look no further. It's more human nature and wanting to fit in than deliberate malice. Nobody wants to step up and be the Democratic Party version of Liz Cheney and be cast out.
I want to step up and be the Democratic Party version of Liz Cheney and be cast out. So, increasingly, do many others. I want to live by principle more than I want to belong to a mindless herd.
I agree with what you're saying about human nature and (general, though not universal) lack of malice. But having now seen clearly that -- as an army travels on its stomach -- this ideology travels on idiot compassion, we need to call each other to a more conscious, less credulous response. We are, after all (at least ostensibly) capable of rationality and principled choice and thus able to extricate ourselves from embracing and perpetuating harm. We should quit indulging less in ourselves and others.
GOD’s Own ABSOLUTES
When God is Absent in Our Life: Evil becomes the way of life!
• We cannot permit what the Church forbids.
• We cannot forbid what the Church permits.
• We must protect all Human Life, from Conception to Natural Death.
• Man’s laws cannot make moral what God has declared immoral. Even if sin is “legalized” by Man’s Laws, it is still a sin in the eyes of God.
• God’s own Word shall never change, no matter what his creation, which is humankind, deems as the new ‘reality’!
• GOD will NEVER approve of what GOD has condemned since the beginning of time, no matter what Man-Made laws are passed!
• “Yes, we are to love God and love each other. But if we love God, we will seek to obey His Word. Jesus told us, ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments’ (John 14:15). God defines what is sin, not us; and His Word is clear that homosexuality is sin,” – Franklin Graham
• The Ten Commandments were not created to be a pick-and-choose salad bar.
• Where does it say that GOD’s OWN Commandments shall be periodically updated?
• Where in the Bible does it say that GOD will allow YOU to decide, (or vote on) which of the Ten Commandments are currently relevant?
1. Any so-called “christian church” that accepts abortion, suicide, euthanasia, transgenderism, and/or homosexuality as an accepted practice, is NOT CHRISTIAN!
2. Abortion, euthanasia, suicide, transgenderism, and homosexuality are ALWAYS SINS!
3. Any person or church that accepts “chrislam” or “christianized islam” as an accepted practice and belief is NOT CHRISTIAN!
4. Anyone who supports any of the above is giving homage to Satan!
It is: “Love the sinner, but hate the sin!” -- St. Augustine of Hippo, 354 – 430 AD
Islam rejects God as a Father, Islam rejects Jesus as the divine Son of God and Islam rejects the Jewish people as the ancient inheritors of God’s promises. There is now a heretical movement that is quickly infecting the “christian” church with its creeping influence, called “Chrislam” that we must stop.
Opposition to the dreadful trans mutilation is not a religious issue. Religious wackadoodles are not helping.
Not all "Religious" are "wackadoodles" just like all people don't bite tires!
No, true. But the religious wacks on this site are damaging the real thing that is needed - solidarity. I don't care what kind of crap you believe in. Don't go on and on about Geezus and that kind of stuff. The bullshit about the "commandments from gawd" is moronic and unhelpful.
Believe whatever you want. I really don't care. But the aggressive gawd-blather is not helpful, and is off-putting for those of us who are not gawd-deranged.
Islam does none of the things you say it does! Pitt is turning into an extremist hate group.
Yes, I would HATE getting my head cut off!
MOSLEMS BELIEVE IN A FALSE ‘JESUS’ WHOM THEY CALL “ISA”.
The name of the self-proclaimed false ‘prophet’ Mohammad is found in only 4 places in the entire koran, but the name of Jesus (‘Isa’) is found in 25 places. The koran gives more preference to the name of Jesus!
However, Islam denies that Jesus is the Son of God, His Deity, Crucifixion, and His Death & Resurrection, however Islam makes Jesus into a barbarian Warlord who will return to kill us.
Islam also claims that their ‘Isa’ was just another prophet, however they do admit that Isa could and did perform miracles, such as the Apocryphal boy Jesus turning clay birds that He had formed, into living creatures.
In two places in the koran, Mohammad openly admitted he (Mohammad) could do no miracles to show any proof of divinity or divine calling (Surah 17:90-95; and 3:183, also see: 29:50-51)
Muslims falsely believe that ‘Isa’ is the same person as Jesus of Nazareth described in the New Testament, however Isa has does NOT have the same attributes as Jesus.
BTW: The actual Arabic language term for Jesus as used by Arab Christians is Yasū’ (Yasu’ with a line above the ‘u’) Pronounced “Ya-sue-a” (with a short a)
Mohammad was both “DIED and BURIED” in Medina and also “ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN” from the Dome of the Rock Mosque, immediately after depositing his footprints on the rock. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MOSQUE WAS NOT STARTED UNTIL 689! (Recall that Mohammad died in 632, that’s a difference of Fifty-Seven years later!)
It is a distance of over 750 miles from Medina to Jerusalem by today’s roads – Now that’s a real “miracle”!
The koranic imitation ‘Jesus’ (Isa) has many special features like he was born without the assistance of a man and that the Moslem “god” created him from a part of his own spirit and that the devil didn’t dare to touch him after he was born.
But Mohammad, “‘allah’s’ Final Messenger”, was born as a ‘normal’ human being, with ONLY ‘normal’ human abilities, and died (from complications of a low dose of poison, after suffering greatly for three years after being poisoned by a Jewish woman at Khyber) and was buried as all normal human flesh!
You need to talk to an imam. You are deeply confused.
Then you know NOTHING about the REAL Islam!
I have STUDIED Islam since just after the Feb. 26, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing. That’s over twenty-five years! That’s longer than most College Students have been alive.
“I have studied the koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction that, by and large, there have been few religions in the world as deadly to man as that of Muhammad…
I, therefore, regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress!”
-- Alexis de Tocqueville
Alexis, I concur completely!
Although believers of Islam, may think or say whatever they want to about Islam, it doesn’t change what Islam says about itself. As a documented ideology the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Surah, and the other OFFICIAL Books concerning Islam, Islam exists independently of anyone’s opinion. As such, it may be studied objectively, apart from how anyone practices or chooses to interpret it.
The Qur’an plainly teaches that it is not only proper to kill in the name of Allah, but that it is required. Not all Muslims believe in killing over their religion, they may feel that way, however, it is out of ignorance of exactly what Islam teaches. Perhaps it is because they are more loyal to the moral law written in their hearts than they are to the details laid out by Muhammad. Those who put Islam first or know Islam about best, believe otherwise, that killing in the name of Allah is REQUIRED!
You need to calm down and get back on topic. This isn't a place to be a religious bigot.
If these gawd-deranged zealots wish to take comfort in religion, fine. But I grow weary of the claim that the trans holocaust is due to our failure to become gawd-deranged. I'm an atheist. I oppose trans because I believe in reason and truth.
Wow, this thread sure is something. Jokers to the left of me, clowns to right . . .
Southern Baptist. There is an association, and a doctrine to which members agree, but no close oversight. I am sure if a SBC (Southern Baptist Convention member) went rogue there would be talk, but Brother Mike has no boss, per se. As a matter of interest, our pastor is going to be nominated to “run” for president of the Florida SBC chapter. He was out of divinity school only a few years, and was 2 years younger than church by-laws required, but we voted to offer him the position of pastor. That was over 2 years ago, and we’ve never regretted it or looked back.
Are these the same clergy that think abortion is "okay"?
Yes. The Episcopal Church, and several other progressive churches (PCUSA, United Methodist, and just about every denomination that has the word "united" in its name) approve of abortion while claiming to be Christian. They're wolves, deceiving the sheep.
This is so beautifully written. Thank you.
say No, to bait and switch. that one minute such a things is acceptable ( lie) then later tell of the danger and harm
Wow, thank you for those references & congratulations on accepting nonconforming behaviour. I think if parents were more tolerant of sons growing long hair & painting their nails ( for example), fewer children would suddenly disappear at 18. Let teens be a little wild & crazy & even genderfluid without medicalizing it or tolerating drugs & other destructive abuse.
Deborah, personally I disagree. First, I think many of the trans identifying kids come from liberal progressive families that have no problem with long hair/nail polish in boys. Second, as much as I hate the overuse of this phrase , it's a slippery slope. Today a boy wants to paint his nails. Tomorrow he will put on a dress. The day after a bra to make the dress fit better. Third, let's say his parents are fine with hair/nails so he goes out with long hair , skirt. painted nails. He will be either teased mercilessly or encouraged in a fake saccarin way. It will not go unnoticed. He will either hate the attention and feel shamed (Which may lead him to wanting to actually look like a woman and blend in as one) or enjoy the attention (with the same result). There may be a high price to pay for such unconventional presentation so I can understand why parents would be worried. We don't live in an ideal world and should no sacrifice our children to the idea that the ideal world can be built with their help.
Moomin, I was thinking of the parents here who are shocked when their children disappear. People need a time in life to experiment, to make mistakes, to defy convention. If parents can overcome their own embarrassment & need for control , kids can get some of the craziness out before they leave home. Let your son wear a dress. Who cares? Medicalization is the enemy, the real danger. Don't set up a power contest that you will lose.
Studies show that social transition very often leads to medicalization. If that's the case then we should care. Shouldn't we? As for kids dissapearing, that's equal opportunity as well. Its not happening to rural conservative parents only. Start at the begining of PITT and read up 'til now.
I have read PITT. I have read about some parents excoriating their children's nonconforming appearances & wondering why their children ghost them. Find a middle ground, say social transition, and stay in touch. Saying you'll never accept transition drives them further into transition & away from you. You won't stop a true transsexual man from transitioning. I don't understand the nonbinary girls I'm encountering, but I'm certain they need love as well. Give them all the facts & let them decide. I can't imagine how difficult that will be, but it's better than alienating them. Unless you really can't love their transitioning selves. sigh.
That may be true- or false-- but you still have to deal with the 16 year old boy.
The co-morbidity with ADHD, OCD, ASD makes it like an addiction. Transition is happiness, (just look at the influencers online who tell you it's euphoria, and that normal people have euphoria, all you need to do is change your sex!) and you just need to do it more to get the happiness part. If people would lurk on the transing reddits, or watch the influencer videos they'd see the way transition is pushed. And the data about how so many kids who get puberty blockers move right to wrong sex hormones and end up sterilized should be a big flashing caution sign.
I can't agree that co- morbidities are like addiction. Comorbidities need to be treated as the top priority, not the trans desire. I see it as escapism & a social contagion. I wonder about medical problems in the future, but I think the current gender movement is here to stay. I don't begin to understand what a nonbinary woman is.Maybe a nonbinary person who presents as femme.