I'm about 4 years in and have a daughter in this so I cannot speak for the boys. But, I think that once your girl comes to you and says she's somehow always been a boy and suddenly has weird mannerisms - she has been psychologically battered for some time. That is where the Lisa Littman working definition of "ROGD" is not exactly right. I have been reading some disturbing narratives of very bright, accomplished autogynohile married-to-women grown men who consider themselves "lesbians" and this seems to be their cover: that it is not that they have an adult sexual fetish - it is that they have always been women (even though they are fathers). Our naive daughters are all reciting what they say. These men are not maternal. They do not care what happens to kids and young people. I also think that many adults are trained to "accept" and "go along" with what they do not actually believe. This has the effect that the parents get psychologically battered as well and their children get gas lighted. By the time an adult figures it out the kids have made it to the "magic age" of 18 where it turns out that it does all matter and they get the "liberating" drugs and surgeries which feel like such a rush until it doesn't. IMO
This has to stop.
The homosexual transexual who dreams of dating straight men are another matter - sad but not the issue here.
The Littman ROGD group is one type. She is not describing the general situation, but a subgroup. So your child may not fit the subgroup. The "social contagion" aspect may STILL be operating, in that one person "coming out" may be the trigger for others to do so as well - giving them license.
I completely think the girl subgroup is from social contagion. And, it is largely the fault of adults for promoting an ideology and gas lighting the kids - or it might not be so persistent. What I was trying to express is that it is not quite as "rapid" as it initially appears to parents who had no clue about the indoctrination going on in the peer group and by the teachers or speaker grifters who are brought in for DEI talks. The kids bathe in the stuff for some time before they "suddenly" spring it on parents once it is firmly in their minds.
There are 2 things going on: 1) the sex/gender issue and 2) the public "reveal" issue. I think that 1) can be private or within a subgroup for a while. When a child decides to "reveal", this is the moment that the social contagion occurs. I have contact with Lisa - I will ask her.
it is sick and twisted mind control. it's shocking how many grownups have fallen in line, and lost their minds. so odd.
I'm about 4 years in and have a daughter in this so I cannot speak for the boys. But, I think that once your girl comes to you and says she's somehow always been a boy and suddenly has weird mannerisms - she has been psychologically battered for some time. That is where the Lisa Littman working definition of "ROGD" is not exactly right. I have been reading some disturbing narratives of very bright, accomplished autogynohile married-to-women grown men who consider themselves "lesbians" and this seems to be their cover: that it is not that they have an adult sexual fetish - it is that they have always been women (even though they are fathers). Our naive daughters are all reciting what they say. These men are not maternal. They do not care what happens to kids and young people. I also think that many adults are trained to "accept" and "go along" with what they do not actually believe. This has the effect that the parents get psychologically battered as well and their children get gas lighted. By the time an adult figures it out the kids have made it to the "magic age" of 18 where it turns out that it does all matter and they get the "liberating" drugs and surgeries which feel like such a rush until it doesn't. IMO
This has to stop.
The homosexual transexual who dreams of dating straight men are another matter - sad but not the issue here.
The Littman ROGD group is one type. She is not describing the general situation, but a subgroup. So your child may not fit the subgroup. The "social contagion" aspect may STILL be operating, in that one person "coming out" may be the trigger for others to do so as well - giving them license.
I completely think the girl subgroup is from social contagion. And, it is largely the fault of adults for promoting an ideology and gas lighting the kids - or it might not be so persistent. What I was trying to express is that it is not quite as "rapid" as it initially appears to parents who had no clue about the indoctrination going on in the peer group and by the teachers or speaker grifters who are brought in for DEI talks. The kids bathe in the stuff for some time before they "suddenly" spring it on parents once it is firmly in their minds.
Agree completely.
I blame adults too. Lots of schools and teachers.
https://christopherrufo.com/radical-gender-lessons-for-young-children/?mc_cid=d38ae03611
https://cbradleythompson.substack.com/p/sex-and-the-schools-or-an-essay-you?s=r
Agree
There are 2 things going on: 1) the sex/gender issue and 2) the public "reveal" issue. I think that 1) can be private or within a subgroup for a while. When a child decides to "reveal", this is the moment that the social contagion occurs. I have contact with Lisa - I will ask her.
agreed