It has been about a year and a half since our daughter told us she was transgender, and it has not been an easy time. Watching your child go through something like this is incredibly hard. This is not just something that happens one day and blows over, it is a daily struggle for an extensive period of time, and it can really wear you and your family down.
Thank you so much for your message ,father. I am the mother who is experiencing the same thing right now with my teenage son. The dark cloud, the speechlessness, the pretending, the shame, the guilt, living in two realities. I feel so helpless, that I' m afraid to talk to him about anything but basic matter of fact things, I feel numb, worn out from worrying at night and in every daytime minute when I'm not distracted by work. I find even my laughter is not real and sincere, there is no joy, and you are right, there is no interest left except for reading medical reports oder watching detransitioner videos on YouTube. I feel I' m losing him, yet I feel unable to talk to him.
Maybe I can try your approach, do normal things together as if nothing happened, and just love him, pretending that I don't see the bra or the painted nails. I love him so much. This is what I 'm going to do.
Be a man. Tell her there is no such thing as transgender. Tell her you’ve been there her whole life and she never once acted like a boy or gave any indication. Tell her puberty sucks and periods suck and that you are glad you don’t have to have one . Tell her how amazing women are. Tell her all the shitty parts about being male- having to be protectors, having to work your whole life, not being connected to an infant in the same way, having to be main adult in a relationship and all the expectations that come along with it. Tell her how mean men really are in the locker room or that they don’t make friends like women do. Tell her the clothing is boring.
My daughter robbed me of a prom dress. But she was and is fat. If I had made her workout she may have been more comfortable with her body. Her school is full of fitness super sporty people so she never fit in. She has a very curvy body unlike me. Her trans stuff was completely related to her body image puberty and popularity.
Trans doenst happen to popular kids. You can tell her that Too.
Do NOT use her fake name- and take away her phone. Take away any binders you find. It’s gonna suck but they will play emotional blackmail with you- don’t fall for it. You have power and you know best. She’s not a guy. Period.
OP telling his daughter that the man is "the main adult in a [heterosexual] relationship" doesn't seem likely to convince her that it's just fine to be a woman.
It’s called being a parent. Parents know more than children. And family are the only people that really care genuinely and instinctively. Also quit being obsessed with gender!!!!! It’s a dad!
Just in case you don’t know, "OP" is internet shorthand for "original poster"—in other words, the person who wrote the post being discussed in the comments. It's not a gender-related term at all.
You said that OP should tell his daughter the following:
"Tell her all the shitty parts about being male- having to be protectors, having to work your whole life, not being connected to an infant in the same way, having to be [the] main adult in a relationship and all the expectations that come along with it. [...] Tell her the clothing is boring."
This is exactly the wrong thing to say. None of this will make OP's daughter think "you know what, I'm happier accepting myself as a woman."
Maybe you think that being a woman is great because you can be financially dependent on your husband and rely on him to be the "worker," "protector," and "main adult" in your relationship. Maybe you love bonding with infants and hate boring clothing. And if you do, that's fine. Different strokes for different folks. But you have to realize that all of this sounds pretty dreadful to a lot of women, and OP's daughter is probably one of them. Hearing her father say all the things you suggested will only deepen her conviction that being a woman means being confined to the domestic sphere, shallow and fashion-obsessed, subordinate to men and financially dependent on them, and just generally lesser. I understand that this isn't what you're intending to communicate, but it's nevertheless what OP's daughter will hear.
Imagine that you have a friend who really hates bars and nightclubs—she doesn't like drinking, doesn't like the noise, doesn't like the crowds. It's just not her scene. Now imagine you're trying to convince this friend to come on vacation with you, and you tell her that you'll be staying at a hotel near lots of popular bars and night clubs. Are you doing a good job of persuading your friend that she'll enjoy being on vacation with you? Obviously not. It's the same principle with OP's daughter. You can't entice people with things they don't want.
I didn’t know what OP was, you are correct. But of the people on here, I would wager I’m the only one who got their daughter to desist in thinking she’s a man. Girls vs boys- telling my daughter things she would hate about being a man is effective. So is telling her she’s too emotional to be a man. That’s a fact.
I’m torn and ripped apart. Most days I have to just walk away from my only daughter, my little girl. I pray for strength and courage. I’ll never affirm but will always love. I’m just having a real difficult time showing it, when it was so natural and easy. Heartbroken!!
I keep think that this trans thing is going to blow up soon. Just heard that our small town has several trans students at our K-2 school. And of course it is affirmed. This is just crazy. I’ve got to believe that a major shift is near.
I completely agree with: "You do not have to affirm what your child is saying"
and "But you do not have to agree with what your child is doing or believing, or affirm what they are saying". I refuse to support and affirm his decision, but my son (who's in his 20s, has been transitioning for a year, and lives in another state) is continually saying that I must not love him unconditionally if I don't tell him he's brave, beautiful, and my daughter. I won't lie to keep him in my life, so I avoid responding to those demands. Does anyone have advice?
I’m in the same boat. My son is in his late 20s and this has just taken over his life within the last year. He has a new name, is taking hormones, and lives with a much older woman who appears to be encouraging this every step of the way.
We have not had an actual conversation about it and he is basically not talking to me. I am not calling him by his new name, but I’m not calling him by his old name either. I’ve shortened it to calling him by the first letter, which happens to be the same for both names. I was doing that anyway before “the change”.
I send text messages into the ether. I’ve sent gifts and cards with no response. I got ignored on Christmas, Mother’s Day and my birthday. It’s awful.
So many details I could share, but the sad fact is is right now we’re estranged and it’s his choice.
My teen son implies the same thing to me. I am fortunate, he is a senior and we have one more year with him home. I tell him I love him every night and usually in the morning too. Maturity is what is needed to understand that loving someone and always agreeing with them, are not one in the same. Maybe keep in touch. Send text, a funny meme, etc. just keep letting him know that you’re there. Sorry I’m not much more help.
Thanks, I appreciate your support. I have thought the same thing about the definition of love. Not sure if he's ready to hear it. We used to be able to talk about anything. This cult has taken over his mind.
Thank you for writing this article. It is rare that the Dad’s are heard. I do not have faith in the Lord but I do have faith knowing that the people fighting this ideology is ever-increasing and Rome wasn’t built in a day! You are right, we have to try and keep connected to our children, no matter their age, in order that as they mature, they can recognise we are a critical loving constant in life and hopefully they will wake up before they are irreversibly damaged. I ‘cope’ by fighting this every single day in whatever way I can. I hope faith helps you and those who belief and I wish you and your daughter well. She is lucky to have you. Thank you for writing this on behalf of the Dad’s. Your voice is necessary and important. I wish your family well and send love and solidarity. I stand with you.
I'll be honest in saying that there are days that my faith is the only thing that gets me through this nightmare. I don't really know how I would cope without it.
This is so good. You have expressed exactly what my husband is feeling. This is so isolating. No one and I mean no one really understands unless they are dealing with it. This is not like having a child come out as gay. This is so much darker and scarier. I have faith God is working but moment by moment it’s hard to remember. I have remind myself what I feel God told me which is “The battle is mine.” My children are adults so there is nothing more I can do but pray.
Don’t pray, take away the phone the binders and any flags or paraphernalia. Look for gender books or anime. Check out the kids Instagram there will be secret ones. Cut off internet at night. You have to step in/ this is a cult.
As the mom please be assured it’s definitely not easier to find support. No one knows the horrors or Mengele-level mutilations that are actually happening until it shows up in your house. It’s not something you can talk about with your girlfriends. The last thing you want is for your lives to become fodder for the gossip machine. You can’t talk to your family bc you don’t want them to be upset or blame you. Believe me I already do. Thanks for sharing at least we aren’t alone completely.
yes as the mother I have no way of switching off. My husband however is as distrought, feels rejected by our child, but does seem to be able to foucus on other things- for me it haunts me every minute of every hour 24 hours day for the past 3 years. Its hard for everyone- we are all suffering there is no measure.
Mom22 - I hope you have support via a parent group. This has transformed my experience. I am just as stressed, terribly anxious and overwhelmed but I no longer feel alone. This ideology cannot silence us. I hope you can get moments of solace by befriending parents in the same situation. I highly recommend it. Bayswater and Our Duty would be were I would look. Please don’t remain feeling alone.
Thank you for your informative and heart felt story. I feel like I understand my husband a whole better now. It is a very scary, hard road to travel as my daughter is also on this path. Stay strong and again thank you for sharing!
Yes, yes, yes! You have to stand in that uncomfortable space with your child, fully accepting of them as a person, but fully rejecting the lies that are so real to them. It’s an uncomfortable place to be, but doing real stuff with your kids will have benefits long into the future. Every moment their focus is outward instead of inward is a victory.
Hang in there, and keep being present for your daughter! Girls change so much between 14 and 18, I hope and pray she doesn’t even recognize herself in two years!
You failed, yet you deign to give advice instead of asking for it. So here’s some from a dad who won the battle: Your daughter needs to see strong female role models. Even fantasy will work on her subconscious while she sleeps.
Janeway and Seven from Star Trek Voyager, Captain Marvel (you’ll cry when Bree Larson says “My name is Carol,”), Elizabeth Olsen in Wanda-vision, and all the female characters in ABCs “Once Upon a Time” (especially the evil ones). And Jenna Ortega’s “Wednesday” kicks ass. This process takes years but you have lots to binge watch together.
If she’s binding, it’s tough, only her mom can take it from her. Never medicalize under age 18. Be a man, tough love. EMDR therapy with a non-affirming therapist to deal with real or imagined early childhood trauma. A Stella Ganglion Block to reset her nervous system. You’re dealing with methylated neurons and brain plasticity. It takes time. And lastly, prayer (for you), and cannabis (for her, to quell her inner demons (far more effective and benign than her shrinks pharmaceuticals).
Social media’s a bitch, but the tide is turning. Lots of young Detrans girls now like Chloe and Helena for your daughter to deal with. Listen to every podcast from Stella and Sasha (“Gender, a wider lens”) and bribe (or challenge) your daughter to listen to several you think best for her. Let her argue their points. She will eventually confront her own illogic.
You will still lose the battle if you and your wife are not on the same page. If that’s the case, then you can only appeal to God.
"You failed". Inappropriate judgement, how would you know?
The other suggestions you made may ir may not be good ones, but I do like the idea of them both watching and discussing detransitioner testimonies.
The daughter needs to understand that Dad is motivated 100% by love for her and that there is more to the trans picture than what has been told to her.
I forgot to mention psilocybin mushroom therapy and nutritional smoothies. I shouldn’t have said failed—his daughter is still young enough to save if he ignores sanctimonious fools.
This guy is desperate and u offer nothing but condolences.
I know my stuff. I went through 5 years of ROGD hell—butch blue hair, baggy clothes, nose ring, begging for T like it’s super-serum, and hideous self-harm. U can’t imagine. But I stood firm, researched endlessly, read all the books, and listened to 1000 hours of podcasts. (Starting with Lisa Marchiano in 2017. God bless her).
My baby is now 19, gorgeous, with long blond braids. Her body is healthy and her fertility is intact. I wish the same for him and all other fathers in his situation. I thank God for his grace and help in my situation. So GTFU. Yeah, I’m crass. All these comments make me want to puke. We’re trying to save a generation of young women.
Thank you for adding more information. I am glad you succeeded in rescuing your daughter and no, I can't imagine what you went through. Interesting that you mention psilocybin therapy as just last night I was telling a friend how doing one minor dose (about 15 mushrooms) rescued me from the habit of being depressed when I was a teenager, by helping me experience the wonder of being alive and the power of my soul for lack of a more precise term.
If you attended to my comment you would notice I offered more than just condolences.
You do seem to be in the habit of insulting people as I imagine your GTFU comment fits. It is always wrong and counterproductive to do so, as Jesus explained when He addressed that topic in scripture . It is macho rather than manly and particularly counterproductive to insult the people on your own team in a battle. For all you know, your attitudes were one of the factors that caused your child to trans-identify, though again I don't know that. So, if you are telling me to GTFU, I recommend you take some of the medicine you recommend for me and address others respectfully like a mature adult. Build people up rather than demeaning them.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, we are also believers with a transgender daughter who first had self harm then anorexia then declared herself transgender. It was over a year of grieving and self examination but now we are to the place of trying to maintain a relationship from a distance. It is so hard to know that nothing but prayer will work.
Thank you so much for your message ,father. I am the mother who is experiencing the same thing right now with my teenage son. The dark cloud, the speechlessness, the pretending, the shame, the guilt, living in two realities. I feel so helpless, that I' m afraid to talk to him about anything but basic matter of fact things, I feel numb, worn out from worrying at night and in every daytime minute when I'm not distracted by work. I find even my laughter is not real and sincere, there is no joy, and you are right, there is no interest left except for reading medical reports oder watching detransitioner videos on YouTube. I feel I' m losing him, yet I feel unable to talk to him.
Maybe I can try your approach, do normal things together as if nothing happened, and just love him, pretending that I don't see the bra or the painted nails. I love him so much. This is what I 'm going to do.
Be a man. Tell her there is no such thing as transgender. Tell her you’ve been there her whole life and she never once acted like a boy or gave any indication. Tell her puberty sucks and periods suck and that you are glad you don’t have to have one . Tell her how amazing women are. Tell her all the shitty parts about being male- having to be protectors, having to work your whole life, not being connected to an infant in the same way, having to be main adult in a relationship and all the expectations that come along with it. Tell her how mean men really are in the locker room or that they don’t make friends like women do. Tell her the clothing is boring.
My daughter robbed me of a prom dress. But she was and is fat. If I had made her workout she may have been more comfortable with her body. Her school is full of fitness super sporty people so she never fit in. She has a very curvy body unlike me. Her trans stuff was completely related to her body image puberty and popularity.
Trans doenst happen to popular kids. You can tell her that Too.
Do NOT use her fake name- and take away her phone. Take away any binders you find. It’s gonna suck but they will play emotional blackmail with you- don’t fall for it. You have power and you know best. She’s not a guy. Period.
OP telling his daughter that the man is "the main adult in a [heterosexual] relationship" doesn't seem likely to convince her that it's just fine to be a woman.
It’s called being a parent. Parents know more than children. And family are the only people that really care genuinely and instinctively. Also quit being obsessed with gender!!!!! It’s a dad!
What? I don't think you understood my comment.
Just in case you don’t know, "OP" is internet shorthand for "original poster"—in other words, the person who wrote the post being discussed in the comments. It's not a gender-related term at all.
You said that OP should tell his daughter the following:
"Tell her all the shitty parts about being male- having to be protectors, having to work your whole life, not being connected to an infant in the same way, having to be [the] main adult in a relationship and all the expectations that come along with it. [...] Tell her the clothing is boring."
This is exactly the wrong thing to say. None of this will make OP's daughter think "you know what, I'm happier accepting myself as a woman."
Maybe you think that being a woman is great because you can be financially dependent on your husband and rely on him to be the "worker," "protector," and "main adult" in your relationship. Maybe you love bonding with infants and hate boring clothing. And if you do, that's fine. Different strokes for different folks. But you have to realize that all of this sounds pretty dreadful to a lot of women, and OP's daughter is probably one of them. Hearing her father say all the things you suggested will only deepen her conviction that being a woman means being confined to the domestic sphere, shallow and fashion-obsessed, subordinate to men and financially dependent on them, and just generally lesser. I understand that this isn't what you're intending to communicate, but it's nevertheless what OP's daughter will hear.
Imagine that you have a friend who really hates bars and nightclubs—she doesn't like drinking, doesn't like the noise, doesn't like the crowds. It's just not her scene. Now imagine you're trying to convince this friend to come on vacation with you, and you tell her that you'll be staying at a hotel near lots of popular bars and night clubs. Are you doing a good job of persuading your friend that she'll enjoy being on vacation with you? Obviously not. It's the same principle with OP's daughter. You can't entice people with things they don't want.
I didn’t know what OP was, you are correct. But of the people on here, I would wager I’m the only one who got their daughter to desist in thinking she’s a man. Girls vs boys- telling my daughter things she would hate about being a man is effective. So is telling her she’s too emotional to be a man. That’s a fact.
I’m torn and ripped apart. Most days I have to just walk away from my only daughter, my little girl. I pray for strength and courage. I’ll never affirm but will always love. I’m just having a real difficult time showing it, when it was so natural and easy. Heartbroken!!
I keep think that this trans thing is going to blow up soon. Just heard that our small town has several trans students at our K-2 school. And of course it is affirmed. This is just crazy. I’ve got to believe that a major shift is near.
I completely agree with: "You do not have to affirm what your child is saying"
and "But you do not have to agree with what your child is doing or believing, or affirm what they are saying". I refuse to support and affirm his decision, but my son (who's in his 20s, has been transitioning for a year, and lives in another state) is continually saying that I must not love him unconditionally if I don't tell him he's brave, beautiful, and my daughter. I won't lie to keep him in my life, so I avoid responding to those demands. Does anyone have advice?
I’m in the same boat. My son is in his late 20s and this has just taken over his life within the last year. He has a new name, is taking hormones, and lives with a much older woman who appears to be encouraging this every step of the way.
We have not had an actual conversation about it and he is basically not talking to me. I am not calling him by his new name, but I’m not calling him by his old name either. I’ve shortened it to calling him by the first letter, which happens to be the same for both names. I was doing that anyway before “the change”.
I send text messages into the ether. I’ve sent gifts and cards with no response. I got ignored on Christmas, Mother’s Day and my birthday. It’s awful.
So many details I could share, but the sad fact is is right now we’re estranged and it’s his choice.
My teen son implies the same thing to me. I am fortunate, he is a senior and we have one more year with him home. I tell him I love him every night and usually in the morning too. Maturity is what is needed to understand that loving someone and always agreeing with them, are not one in the same. Maybe keep in touch. Send text, a funny meme, etc. just keep letting him know that you’re there. Sorry I’m not much more help.
Thanks, I appreciate your support. I have thought the same thing about the definition of love. Not sure if he's ready to hear it. We used to be able to talk about anything. This cult has taken over his mind.
Your daughter is a lucky girl...you are giving her a shot at having a life even if she doesn’t know it yet
Thanks!
Thank you for writing this article. It is rare that the Dad’s are heard. I do not have faith in the Lord but I do have faith knowing that the people fighting this ideology is ever-increasing and Rome wasn’t built in a day! You are right, we have to try and keep connected to our children, no matter their age, in order that as they mature, they can recognise we are a critical loving constant in life and hopefully they will wake up before they are irreversibly damaged. I ‘cope’ by fighting this every single day in whatever way I can. I hope faith helps you and those who belief and I wish you and your daughter well. She is lucky to have you. Thank you for writing this on behalf of the Dad’s. Your voice is necessary and important. I wish your family well and send love and solidarity. I stand with you.
Thank you for the kind words Joanne!
I'll be honest in saying that there are days that my faith is the only thing that gets me through this nightmare. I don't really know how I would cope without it.
This is so good. You have expressed exactly what my husband is feeling. This is so isolating. No one and I mean no one really understands unless they are dealing with it. This is not like having a child come out as gay. This is so much darker and scarier. I have faith God is working but moment by moment it’s hard to remember. I have remind myself what I feel God told me which is “The battle is mine.” My children are adults so there is nothing more I can do but pray.
Don’t pray, take away the phone the binders and any flags or paraphernalia. Look for gender books or anime. Check out the kids Instagram there will be secret ones. Cut off internet at night. You have to step in/ this is a cult.
Hi Laurel! I'm glad I was able accurately express this in a way that you and your husband can relate to. It took me a loooong time to write that.
Please feel free to have your husband reach out to me through my website (https://www.forgingfatherhood.com/) or on Twitter (https://twitter.com/ForgeFatherhood).
I want to build a community around this aimed specifically at the fathers. We cannot stand idly by and watch this consume our children.
I have read 100's of articles on PITT and they are all good but this is the best. This child is very lucky to have a Dad like this.
Thank you so much! I'm the author of this article and I really do appreciate your kind words!
As the mom please be assured it’s definitely not easier to find support. No one knows the horrors or Mengele-level mutilations that are actually happening until it shows up in your house. It’s not something you can talk about with your girlfriends. The last thing you want is for your lives to become fodder for the gossip machine. You can’t talk to your family bc you don’t want them to be upset or blame you. Believe me I already do. Thanks for sharing at least we aren’t alone completely.
yes as the mother I have no way of switching off. My husband however is as distrought, feels rejected by our child, but does seem to be able to foucus on other things- for me it haunts me every minute of every hour 24 hours day for the past 3 years. Its hard for everyone- we are all suffering there is no measure.
Mom22 - I hope you have support via a parent group. This has transformed my experience. I am just as stressed, terribly anxious and overwhelmed but I no longer feel alone. This ideology cannot silence us. I hope you can get moments of solace by befriending parents in the same situation. I highly recommend it. Bayswater and Our Duty would be were I would look. Please don’t remain feeling alone.
Thanks for the resources I need them ❤️
Thank you for your informative and heart felt story. I feel like I understand my husband a whole better now. It is a very scary, hard road to travel as my daughter is also on this path. Stay strong and again thank you for sharing!
Thanks Robyn! Please feel free to have your husband reach out to me through my website (https://www.forgingfatherhood.com/) or on Twitter (https://twitter.com/ForgeFatherhood).
I plan to continue to provide more articles and resources like this aimed specifically at the fathers.
Excellent. I’m going through this with both my kids and I really appreciate your words of wisdom.
Beautifully written and so accurate. Thank you for sharing.
Yes, yes, yes! You have to stand in that uncomfortable space with your child, fully accepting of them as a person, but fully rejecting the lies that are so real to them. It’s an uncomfortable place to be, but doing real stuff with your kids will have benefits long into the future. Every moment their focus is outward instead of inward is a victory.
Hang in there, and keep being present for your daughter! Girls change so much between 14 and 18, I hope and pray she doesn’t even recognize herself in two years!
You failed, yet you deign to give advice instead of asking for it. So here’s some from a dad who won the battle: Your daughter needs to see strong female role models. Even fantasy will work on her subconscious while she sleeps.
Janeway and Seven from Star Trek Voyager, Captain Marvel (you’ll cry when Bree Larson says “My name is Carol,”), Elizabeth Olsen in Wanda-vision, and all the female characters in ABCs “Once Upon a Time” (especially the evil ones). And Jenna Ortega’s “Wednesday” kicks ass. This process takes years but you have lots to binge watch together.
If she’s binding, it’s tough, only her mom can take it from her. Never medicalize under age 18. Be a man, tough love. EMDR therapy with a non-affirming therapist to deal with real or imagined early childhood trauma. A Stella Ganglion Block to reset her nervous system. You’re dealing with methylated neurons and brain plasticity. It takes time. And lastly, prayer (for you), and cannabis (for her, to quell her inner demons (far more effective and benign than her shrinks pharmaceuticals).
Social media’s a bitch, but the tide is turning. Lots of young Detrans girls now like Chloe and Helena for your daughter to deal with. Listen to every podcast from Stella and Sasha (“Gender, a wider lens”) and bribe (or challenge) your daughter to listen to several you think best for her. Let her argue their points. She will eventually confront her own illogic.
You will still lose the battle if you and your wife are not on the same page. If that’s the case, then you can only appeal to God.
Really? You failed? Just what a parent who experiencing this trauma needs to hear. Come on!
"You failed". Inappropriate judgement, how would you know?
The other suggestions you made may ir may not be good ones, but I do like the idea of them both watching and discussing detransitioner testimonies.
The daughter needs to understand that Dad is motivated 100% by love for her and that there is more to the trans picture than what has been told to her.
I forgot to mention psilocybin mushroom therapy and nutritional smoothies. I shouldn’t have said failed—his daughter is still young enough to save if he ignores sanctimonious fools.
This guy is desperate and u offer nothing but condolences.
I know my stuff. I went through 5 years of ROGD hell—butch blue hair, baggy clothes, nose ring, begging for T like it’s super-serum, and hideous self-harm. U can’t imagine. But I stood firm, researched endlessly, read all the books, and listened to 1000 hours of podcasts. (Starting with Lisa Marchiano in 2017. God bless her).
My baby is now 19, gorgeous, with long blond braids. Her body is healthy and her fertility is intact. I wish the same for him and all other fathers in his situation. I thank God for his grace and help in my situation. So GTFU. Yeah, I’m crass. All these comments make me want to puke. We’re trying to save a generation of young women.
Thank you for adding more information. I am glad you succeeded in rescuing your daughter and no, I can't imagine what you went through. Interesting that you mention psilocybin therapy as just last night I was telling a friend how doing one minor dose (about 15 mushrooms) rescued me from the habit of being depressed when I was a teenager, by helping me experience the wonder of being alive and the power of my soul for lack of a more precise term.
If you attended to my comment you would notice I offered more than just condolences.
You do seem to be in the habit of insulting people as I imagine your GTFU comment fits. It is always wrong and counterproductive to do so, as Jesus explained when He addressed that topic in scripture . It is macho rather than manly and particularly counterproductive to insult the people on your own team in a battle. For all you know, your attitudes were one of the factors that caused your child to trans-identify, though again I don't know that. So, if you are telling me to GTFU, I recommend you take some of the medicine you recommend for me and address others respectfully like a mature adult. Build people up rather than demeaning them.
Well said, and with grace and wisdom. Thank you.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, we are also believers with a transgender daughter who first had self harm then anorexia then declared herself transgender. It was over a year of grieving and self examination but now we are to the place of trying to maintain a relationship from a distance. It is so hard to know that nothing but prayer will work.