Evidence for ROGD
Evidence for ROGD
From the U.S. Transgender Survey of 2015
Dear PITT community,
Leor Sapir, Lisa Littman and Michael Biggs have recently published a letter to the editor of the Archives of Sexual Behavior that will be of interest to PITT parents, TERFs, gender critics and anyone interested in evidence based scientific inquiry.
The letter is in response to the “Age of Realization and Disclosure of Gender Identity Among Transgender Adults” written by Jack Turban, Brett Dolotina, Thomas M Freitag, Dana King and Alex Keuroghlian and published in the Journal of Adolescent Health in June of 2023. In this paper, Turban and his co-authors argue that the U.S. Transgender Survey of 2015 - the largest of its kind to date - contains results that do not support the ROGD hypothesis.
In brief, Turban et al argue that what appears to be a late (adolescent) onset of transgender identity is often just the long-delayed disclosure of a transgender identity formed earlier in life. After noticing problems with this argument, Sapir, Littman and Biggs decided to examine the assumptions and analysis of the USTS data which Turban et al conducted. Sapir’s, Littman’s and Biggs’ suspicions were confirmed. In their analysis of the survey, they found it actually supports the ROGD hypothesis.
Their findings promoted their subsequent Letter to the Editor which has been peer-reviewed. This letter represents a significant development in the ongoing debate over adolescent gender dysphoria. It advances the cause of evidence-based treatment for those suffering from gender dysphoria. And it holds accountable those who purport to use data to advance science when they are, in fact, promoting an ideology.
Thanks for writing about this.
Playing whack-a-mole with rebuttals seems a fool's game to me. Turban has been called out in the past for what he is -a schill for big pharma. Yet he and his friends keep publishing. And people keep rebutting.
Here's an oldie just to prove the point.
https://uncommongroundmedia.com/jack-turban-investigated-americal-medical-association/
'Gender dysphoria' is a propaganda campaign. Rapid Onset Transgender belief Indoctrination seems more akin to my daughter's years long battle with the propaganda machine. They have convinced oodles of young people they are severely broken. What happened to fundamental truths -male and female? Without big pharma, this condition would all but disappear- and so would Jack Turban. These are crimes against humanity which leads to grave harms, suicide included. The so-called experts are criminals and well paid ones at that bringing in funding for their university research. I wonder what Jack's team at UCSF is working on now?
Thank you. A large challenge of combatting the false narratives of gender dysphoria/transgenderism is sharing factual rebuttals of various studies that claim to "prove" the normality of trans. Like Mark Twain said, “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes,” and that was before the internet. Once a lie has been posted, it's impossible to get that genie back into the bottle. The Turban study has been quoted often to deny Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria among children, pre- and teens, but the study methods and conclusions were manipulated to support the bias. Probably more than most want to read in depth, but a quick read of the Sapir, Littman and Biggs rebuttal that you posted will help show how studies are manipulated.