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Thank you for sharing. I have a similar story but I am a grandmother of my granddaughter who at 20 is going on testosterone while being at Uof Cincinnati. In text she wrote that I will have to accept my transition FTM before having communication with her! She blocked me (text and email) and demanded that I get therapy before she would ever consider her reinstating our relationship. I was shocked and now I am grieving my loss, of my grand daughter to a cult.

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People have to make their mistakes before they learn they were stupid. It's a universal concept, only some make dumber mistakes than others.

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Wow. Lol Most funding is made by politics, these days. I'd say it has been that way for some time, too.

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Under almost all circumstances, save this one, lifelong medications and possible amputation of healthy body parts would sound like a BAD thing. Except for this one...indicating some sort of mass insanity. And all to achieve something that cannot be achieved. There is no actual change of sex possible.

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Friday afternoon, July 2022 phone call from a staff member at school I’ve never heard of “hi, my names x and I’m the head of (dept). Do you have a minute?”

Me: “actually I’m really busy, can we speak on Monday?”

Him: “we have a bit of a situation with X so I do needs to speak to you now”

Suddenly everything I needed to do was pushed aside. I moved from me desk to a different chair and have him my whole attention.

13 months later I’ve never got back to that place where I’d say I’m busy and can I talk about my child’s issue next week.

Our lives were reforged that afternoon and into the small hours of the next morning. Our priorities completely different as a sharp focus on what matters fills every aspect of your vision, your thoughts, your waking moments and even your sleeping ones.

13 months later we’re battle weary and always on alert but we’ve won the battle. There is still a war raging all around us and I’m ever vigilant still.

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I continue to read the same sad story over and over again here on PITT. So many children stolen, so many parents heartbroken. All the affirmation from doctors still makes me grit my teeth. I am at a loss for words this day… sorry for your anguish but you are not alone. One day this will end (I hope and pray) and this generation will always be referred to as the the lost Trans-children and we will be referred to as the broken Trans-families.

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Almost the exact same story, over and over again. The way that we, the parents, suddenly become 'hateful'. I'll never forget the cold, angry expression on my son's face the last time I saw him, as he pushed past me to go upstairs and retrieve some of his possessions. Eighteen months and I have neither seen nor heard him since. People try and comfort.me by saying 'he's a teen. He'll grow out of it'. It's kind but I don't believe it. How a previously gentle, shy boy can become almost overnight a person with no empathy for a parent who's loved, and done their best for him all his life. I'm so sorry that so many of you are going through the exact pain and confusion that I am.

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You really aren’t alone. 19 months here, and she won’t talk to us. She is angry and says horrible things when she does. Still beside myself. I’m so sorry.

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You are not alone in this. Our introverted, sensitive son became a hostile, angry human towards us for not saying his new name. He then estranged from us. It will be 2 years soon.

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Us too! Sweet, loving, kind...to CRUEL, uncompromising & unrecognizable in personality. I haven’t seen him for 2 years & we too are estranged. He has re written his childhood & painted us as monsters

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So sorry. It’s painful to lose a kid to the cult. It’s a stronger pull than what we can overcome. Let’s hope they come to their sense and return home.

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So very sorry for the pain you must be in.

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Thank you.

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A year ago last May Our then 16 year old son sat down, started chatting. Casually said I am trans. You can start using she/her pronouns for me and call me by my chosen name. The rest of the day was a blur. Me going in and out of his room with more questions. It seemed so unreal. Told him he needed to tell his dad ( not me). And found out he considered himself a lesbian. He did tell his dad when he got home from work. His dad initially handled it much calmer than I. But then we began our frantic search to figure out what was going on. One of the first sites I found was the quote of ‘would you rather have a daughter or a dead son’. But I did find this site within a week and was referred to some books and Gender wider lens pod cast. A year and a half later my son has not told anyone else. The only ones he has told is his online friends (no one local and no one from his High School) and sisters (and his dad and I). He has longer hair and painted nails. Wears boy clothes, looks more goth than trans. He has not pushed for anything more. But does have one more year of high school. We don’t affirm.

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You should have grounded him until 18, taken awaÝ his computer and smashed his phone. One more word about “trans” and you’ll wish you were never born.

Do Not Affirm.

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High school kids need some computer access. Assignments and school communication is all online. He was shut down from all of it for about 6 months at the beginning. I’m sure he found ways to access the internet at school. It didn’t help. It actually was making things worse.

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I peep. So dad moves the computer from the kid's bedroom to the living room, with the monitor where he can see it from his easy chair. And one (1) visit to any "trans" site or any Smile site like TikTok, and the computer gets donated to the homeless.

Any parents who let themselves be intimidated by the "trans teen suicide" threat isn't up to the responsibility.

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This is pretty similar to our story. My son has desisted. He did tell some local friends, but we cut off access to online friends and actively pursued new in-person social connections and once he had those, and the grooming aspect of the online community was removed, he returned to being a man and proud of it. (It was a very very difficult time period though. Interestingly, my son is very anti-trans now and very protective of children. He sees the danger in it and is in many ways stronger in his feelings than I am.)

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Thought I saw signs of desistance earlier this summer. Seems like a couple steps forward and then steps back. We are continuing to pour into him and try to encourage social activities.

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Show him pictures of the “trans” freaks and ask, “is this you?”

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I don't know if that works. It seems like these trans-identifying young people developed their own version of aesthetics. If Ellen Page can arguably be considered sort of cute, she does not even remotely represent what an average woman on T looks like. I see them working in local stores. It sounds cruel but they look hideous - clearly female facial features with acne and facial hair that seem to grow in random places. Overweight in an unnatural , in-between male and female way. It's the same with men on E although I don't really see them often. None of them "pass" and I am not even sure they want to pass (rather than to be clearly visible as members of the tribe). If looking at them does not serve as a warning to others, I don't know what pictures would.

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What is needed is a good collection. Unfortunately, "gender-switch role models" like Ellen Page are out there showing her boob-less chest, and telling everyone how self-mutilation made her the man she is today. These role models are terrible, because they romanticize and glamourize the gender madness. There are plenty of hideous and horrible examples. Look at Jazz Jennings, who has ballooned up to about 275 - he is a complete pig. More of those are needed.

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Anyone who thinks that "Elliot" Page looks like an attractive boy needs to be reminded that "he" is a eunuch. I don't know, nor do I care, about the state of her genitalia but she will never actually be male. She has been crippled and mutilated.

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I agree. But these kids that go down this rabbit hole see it very different. I watched/listened to as many detrans stories as I can. Trying to understand what is driving these kids. Covid and online school was a big factor with my son’s identity issue.

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God bless and I hope the desistance becomes stronger.

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That stage lasted a few months for us. Couple steps forward and then a couple steps backward was our pattern too. I also spent some quality time with him out doing activities we both enjoyed. Getting him off his phone was the biggest thing though - we found out after social media was cut-off that he was being groomed by a 26 year old.

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… who only cared about clicks.

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Well…here’s our story. My wife and I still call it the day of the letter bomb. We had gone out for dinner and when we returned home, she went to get the mail. When she came in the house she was trembling and crying. I asked what was the matter and she gave me a postcard from our daughter. It was an announcement that she was officially changing her name. I was furious. I called her and expressed my frustration. The completely narcissistic nature of the Trans movement is indescribable. I’ve learned a lot over the past three years. The emperor has no clothes and they know it. This movement plain and simple is about power. I will not bow.

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My daughter made her announcement on her winter break from the university. She had been home for 3 weeks but chose the evening before she returned to tell us she didn’t want to be a girl anymore. We had the utmost faith and trust in our daughter and we tried to believe and understand. But things changed so rapidly from there. From the announcement on, it seemed like her mind tipped over into some foreign territory. No discussion was allowed. If we did question, we didn’t recognize the response we got from her. The language and tone she used was not our daughter. For the first time ever we worried about her mental health. I was fumbling around trying to figure things out. I didn’t know ROGD. All I had to compare it to was some form of radicalization. My husband and I started counseling. Not once did the therapist - a so-called trans expert - mention ROGD. Once I found ROGD on the internet I never went back to the therapist. It is amazing the value simply naming something can have.

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I really feel your pain. My wife and I have been dealing with this problem for over two years. We have a FTM daughter. Always very feminine and happy. No so happy anymore. My wife and I were always happy and never rarely argue about anything. Now every two weeks or so we have an argument. It’s really difficult to deal with everything at the same time. I am trying all my best to connect with my daughter and my wife.

I am trying to counteract all ideas relating to social injustice, climate , history. Everything is tangled together. I am really trying to poke holes in all these lies that they are feeding yo our children. My love and best wishes to all parents suffering this insanity.

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Thanks for sharing this research. My heart goes out to you and your family.

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“I’m not asking for your permission, I’m telling you.“ This is a standard form-letter statement from the Trans Cult. It’s a way to take control, just like anorexia. You can’t make me eat. You can’t force me to think I am too thin to be healthy. You must accept that I am fat.

Only with trans, the medical community is happily affirming the child’s absurd self perceived “obesity”, and politicians are trying to make it a crime to refer to them as anything other than “fat”. When this madness finally breaks, and suddenly you won’t find all the self righteous interlopers who will admit that they ever promoted that your starving child was overweight, we will remember.

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The anorexics these days are really honked off about trans--because they are resentful that THEIR self-image/diagnosis isn't taken seriously, but trans is. (My husband is a physician--he has seen this several times among his patients.) But of course, this was the very first thing that I thought about trans: how we shouldn't take it seriously just the way we don't accept young women's anorexia, but rather treat it as a symptom of an underlying mental health condition.

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My trans son was always claiming bulimia as well. It was hogwash. Just a way to say, "Notice me!"

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It was feb. 14, 2022 (Valentine’s Day) when my 12 year old child told me that I no longer have a daughter but a son. My world turned upside down since then.

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The same here. On this day my daughter must have felt especially lonely. After that it took us more than a year to diagnose social anxiety officially.

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Though things are much better now, but I’m not the same anymore. I can’t stop thinking about that declaration and constantly haunting me up to this day.

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Awareness on repeat. These letters from PUTT need to be resent to as wide an audience as possible. This is brain washing as significant as it comes. My hope is that more lawsuits are filed by those patients who agreed to a transition without being fully informed of the entirety of the consequences. Hospitals, Dr., therapists all need to be included.

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1/20 - On his flight back to college in the TSA line our son told us he was genderqueer and ASD (self-id). Stunned with tears in my eyes gave him a hug and turned to go home. Texted him that I loved him.

7/21 - The EMAIL: I’ve chosen a new name: xxxx. she/they pronouns

I’m still autistic, always have been. do your research. listen to #actuallyautistic adults.

I’m going to be doing a coming out recital in the early fall, so i guess we might want to coordinate if (college) allows visitors

initiating conversations with you is literally my least favorite thing in the world so this email is all you get. all i get is a midnight panic attack

Responded to email with - We love you, want nothing but the best for you, it's an extremely stressful time right now with all the other issues going on, can we talk about this after the move. And the panic attack did come - he thought he had hypoglycemia but does not have diabetes. Went to quick care as he requested. I convinced PA to do a blood test to assuage his fears. Thought it would help open convo about what was going on. Met with silence.

10/21- Coming out recital and we were not invited -- alienation sets in

Started researching trans - found Angus Fox' quillette article on sensitive, intelligent, introverted boys becoming trans. #ROGD

Thanksgiving 21 - Tried to talk to on drive back to college with him about why he was hostile and angry with us, about my experience at his age and was met with "I won't talk about it in the car". (Was waiting for the convo about trans until Christmas break.) Which really meant, I won't talk about it at all, which has been par for the course for any conversation throughout the years. This was the last time I saw & hugged our son. Estranged now.

Continued research; Books - Desist, Detrans, & Detox: Getting Your Child Out of the Gender Cult, Trans, The End of Gender, found ROGD Parents -> Genspect -> Sasha -> Stella -> other stories & groups about all the craziness.

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What in the world is a coming out recital?

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It is 99.9% likely that he is not transgender. Actual DSM 4 transgender in one in 30,000 boys, one in 100,000 girls. That's one in 65,000.

The "trans" number a thousand times that. They do not have GID. It's a cult. They feel like they belong. In a "community" where consideration for others is not even a concept.

Disown him, grieve as though he's dead, and move on. And since he's on a lifetime regimen of poisons, you will probably outlive him. Sorry for these painful and blunt truths, but the facts I quoted are real.

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Of course he isn't transgender. I don't believe there are true transgender or transsexual people. The DSM 4 stats you quote are well before this new social contagion/cult has evolved and those states are for kids who had a gender identity disorder since early childhood. It's rare to find a parent on this substack who has such a child.

I will not disown him as he is my son who has been brainwashed into a cult. If he chooses, he is free to come back.

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They brainwash themselves. They know the world is dying, their music stinks, social media are their lives. They have nothing.

The real ones are one in 65.000, of whom about 50,000 are boys. That's fewer than 4000 boys in the entire country.

The cult is all fakes. They are impressionable, attention-starved brats, and they are nuisances. The widespread parental hatred is part of the cult; obliterate your past and live your new "identity."

NC just banned medical transitioning for minors. Let's hope more states follow.

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Quit paying for college, if you still are.

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That’s part 2. We ended up doing that because he wouldn’t talk to us. In hindsight, I wonder if he provoked it so he had a reason for estrangement?

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Can you share title of article? I’m having trouble finding it on his Quillette site.

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Sunday 13th February 2022 - ‘The Day My Daughter Died’

Except she didn’t!

We were devastated when we got the completed Mermaids template letter from our daughter. After the initial shock we did much research and discovered that our daughter had ROGD. We fought tooth and nail to draw her out of the online trans cult and we succeeded. Don’t trust anyone with your child they’re too precious...

Take away their phone, get them off the internet, get them out and engaged in the real world - in nature, make more time for them, build on your relationship with your child. The parent is the main educator of the child - don’t let other people tell you how to raise your kids, hold them close.

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We did the exact same thing and our teen is back as well. Lockdowns really did a lot of harm to normal adolescent developmental stages and the sad thing is, far too many families are still allowing kids to hide away on devices all day rather than helping them form real social connections while they still have the ability to do so.

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