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Just leave the kids alone. It's such an invasion of privacy to keep on declaring things about yourself in front of everyone and solidifying things that are not even close to solid.

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Brilliant.

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The school is not a place where a students lifestyle needs to be supported. It is a place to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic. All this gender crap should be left at the door and only acknowledged if a gender confused student becomes disruptive and only to remove the distraction so other children are not robbed of their education.

By embracing it the school system has only exacerbated this social contagion that is destroying young people's lives. Perhaps the public school system should focus on getting literacy rates up before tackling wether or not little Bobby should take puberty blockers and have his dick mutilated by quack doctors.

It's amazing how confident a young person will become when they achieve proficiency in their grade level academic pursuits. No gender affirming care needed for kids to feel like they belong. Just teachers doing their job and instructing on the subject matter the taxpayers are paying them to teach. They do not need to serve as psychoanalysts. The parents can take their own children and do that on their own time and their own dime

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Amen Amen!

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A quote I heard years ago is that "Feelings may be indicators of reality, but they are never generators of reality."

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The stunning irony of a poster saying “Feelings aren’t facts. Feelings are real but they aren’t always reality” in this context. The entire trans movement is based on feelings accepted as facts. And those “facts” lead to physical and psychological harm for our kids.

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Remind your daughters how much they love her their fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, or whomever makes a strong male impression in her life. Hope that gives her perspective.

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Brilliantly put. Thank you for this contribution, every point you make is spot on and screams common sense. This is exactly how my daughter (a desister who for a year used they/them at her former school without our knowledge) feels about pronouns at school, to the point that she would ask to miss class when she knew specific events would involve publicly announcing ones pronouns/gender orientation/ sexual preference. In one of the school annual diversity events, kids (13-18) were encouraged to declare not only their pronouns, but to proclaim their sexual/gender orientation; a teacher would say we ‘salute bisexuals’ (for example) expecting the ‘so self-identified’ bisexual students in the room to stand up or wave; then they would salute the heteros, the gay, the lesbians, the asexuals, moving on to a string of genders: trans, non-binary… Schools need to leave the kids alone and resume their role of gentle supporters within a strong partnership with parents. 🙏🏻

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Schools need to stop talking to students about gender, sex, and sexual orientation altogether. How creepy her school sounds.

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A top private school in nyc. Most schools are doing similar things. Not all children report back what’s going on, these things are not advertised to parents. Don’t think this stuff is rare or just happens in ‘other’ schools to ‘other’ kids. Is arriving everywhere via the diversity heads/offices, etc which are changing the curriculum of all these schools.

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OK; surprised. If such schools depend directly on big-money parent funding, can you gather other big-money parents and just stop it cold? Looks like an easy fix from an outsider POV.

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I'm well aware. This is why I homeschool.

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Mind blown. Straight-up cult behaviour on the part of the schools.

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Exactly.

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WOW. Great work here. I'll be passing this on and using it. THANK YOU.

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This is an extremely coherent, well presented set of ideas. As both a psychologist and parent, I agree with you completely. You are applying reason, common sense, and data to a problem that (unfortunately) seems immune to these curatives. I would hope that your thoughts get distributed widely. Thank you for this very thoughtful essay, Frederick

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The public schools in Denver have only poured fuel on the fire. They have a policy that contradicts your advice - maybe with the exception of your first point. The policy reads like it was written by trans activists and is buried deep in their website in a form that can't be downloaded, printed or copied.

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Yes, I have kids in DPS. The elementary psychologist called me (against policy though!) as a "courtesy", referring to both of my somewhat gender non-conforming kids by opposite pronouns. These are pronouns they didn't even use! I asked if she had spoken with my kids, she said no, but "since (son) is wearing a dress, we will respectfully use she/her". LOL. She later cornered and embarrassed my tomboy by asking her pronouns and was she sure they/them or he/him wasn't more appropriate. I was furious and demanded that she never speak to my kids without my explicit permission. Psychologists are not supposed to treat kids without permission, but if it's a "trans student" they can.

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The fact that the school even has a psychologist is creepy af.

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Yea, I'm on the train that schools need to stop digging into kid's brains.

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Well, there is a whole lot of brain digging into students heads these days so I'm leery of it all.

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I wanted to go to war with DPS over the issue, but my wife thought it was a better idea to downplay it - which was probably the right solution for our kid. They probably get away with a lot of this stuff because people don't understand or don't know.

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Even my dress-wearing "feminine" boy wasn't questioned about his gender for the first many (prob 6-7) years of his sartorial creativity. I am so thankful he got to live his early years as only a boy in a dress. Because that's what he is.

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Excellent! I wish I had had these words and this clarity of thought while my daughter was still in school. I don't know for sure whether her schools used male name and pronouns with her, but I strongly suspect it. That would mean potentially four years of unauthorized psycho-social intervention.

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This was fantastic. Can't help but wish it had a byline, however.

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Most of the PITT posts are written anonymously. If you want to reach out to the author, contact PITT.

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Awesome! Thank you for this lucid summary. This should be required reading for every school administrator and teacher.

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So well put! And thanks for including me in the piece. As you clearly know, I think the impetus to protect "gender-diverse" kids has sadly led to the opposite in many ways, and somehow we have arrived at a place where we have less understanding of the natural variation of gender nonconformity, less understanding of gender itself (whatever the heck that word means). These are great suggestions. How do we get school personnel to be open to them—and how do we get school regulations to allow for these options?

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Thanks for this comprehensive summary of the current state of knowledge about gender nonconformity (vs trans), downsides of forced pronoun labeling, and school vs parents information sharing. August 2022- this is where we're at.

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