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Truth Seeker's avatar

Sorry for any confusion. I agree about the dress to some extent. My daughter was more of a tomboy growing up, but did not mind dresses. I would not make much fuss over her clothes. I am much more concerned about my child's heart and soul and health than how they dress. I never made any comments to her on her choice of clothing. My referring to the tux was to show how I resonated very well with the writer I commented to. As far as my daughter goes, I did not make any comments on her choice of clothing or even wearing that tux. I did let her know that her binding her chest is hurting her and that in her attempts to chop off her hair, grow out her body hair, wear all boy clothes, wear only men's deodorant, etc and binding... that these outward appearances were really pointing to a deeper issue within... her self loathing and rejecting of any femininity and at the core her identity. It was what I saw as her attempt to hide behind and cover up any hint or appearance or smell, etc of being a girl or being who God made her to be that caused me concern and hurt for her. And like Mark said, my greatest fears were what I saw coming down the road if she did not get off this course... bodily harm, mutilation and alienating me. I read the book "Irreversible Damage" when my daughter was first doing this stuff... just "socially transitioning"(I had no idea at the time that is what she was doing).. part of me felt like, okay, maybe she's just confused about her sexuality, or maybe just being gender non-conforming, but I dreaded and hoped it was not where I saw what happened to most of the girls in the book as related by devastated parents. I prayed it would not be me in that boat... and 2 years later, here I am, sadly. my child now plans to do hormones, etc. she insists on boy names/pronouns, she has alienated my and most of her family this past year. She has been convinced I am evil, intolerant, bigoted, etc. I never rejected her. I have always expressed love to her, even when her actions have hurt me deeply. I have tried to respect her "boundaries". I refuse to call her this boy name and use they/he pronouns, but as a way to keep relationship, I just call her pet names or affectionate names. That is not good enough for her. She is brainwashed in this cult and cannot be reasoned with.

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Parents Truth's avatar

Perhaps a Christian College.

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Ned Flanders's avatar

That’s a good idea.

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SLE's avatar

99% of colleges’ health programs pay 100% of the costs of “gender affirming care.”

If it’s possible to do a “gap” year and go with her to a rustic place deep in nature -- work on a farm, dude ranch, etc. I know this isn’t an option for most people (to uproot your life, family, job), so please forgive my overstepping. Your child’s life hangs in the balance. Only you have the power to potentially save her.

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

I’m not sure taking an adult deep into nature to deprogram them is exactly a viable option. It reeks of kidnapping. There’s not much a parent can do after kid turns 18 without running afoul of the law.

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Anonymous's avatar

Also, if you have an hour listen to this, it actually makes a lot of sense!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZxFDtQwOMRSIhXmb4P02a?si=TuMLY_OKTbG47K0bLyaDCQ

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just mud by Ron's avatar

Wow. No doubt she is feeling those internal winds and seeing those strange clouds. But I sense you are her lighthouse, and safety in her turbulence.

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JD's avatar

I am thankful that my daughter does want to go to college and the one she chose is very small. There will still be trans support there. However--- with the school being smaller I have hope that it won’t be further shoved down her throat. For the time being she says she will put off physical transition til after college. She did think she would be in our insurance. But we told her that we would not financially aid her any decision to medically transition. That has taken some of the wind out of her sails--i explained to her that there are huge financial obligations long term for medical transition. The “professionals” have told her that “T” isn’t expensive...and that there are organizations that can help her get a mastectomy. I explained to her that NOTHING is free. But again I am praying that she will stay committed to her education and maybe she will come to her senses.

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KP's avatar

Of all things you want to be free… plastic surgery is NOT one of them.

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wwww's avatar

the group leading this is driving the trans agenda https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whitney-plan-wreck-america

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No Malarkey Mom's avatar

We should call them parasites, not elites.

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Gary Mullennix's avatar

There seems so little knowledge about how to deal with these Hurricanes. Because of Social Media, 60% of young women are unhappy, depressed and don’t like their bodies. I don’t know the answer other than Love, which often meant saying No. Warren Buffett explains it much better than I could. Praying for all of you.

https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/warren-buffett-what-separates-truly-successful-people-from-everyone-else-boils-down-to-1-word.html

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Becky Washburn's avatar

This describes it all so perfectly... my heart is with you all...

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Truth Seeker's avatar

I also could have written this two years ago, and sadly the hurricane has gotten closer and closer to my home. Our family has been torn apart. My daughter has alienated me & much of her family...she also wore a tuxedo for her senior picture & has been sucked more into the vortex ever since- all the things you look forward to, and celebrate are taken away. it does feel like life is on hold & milestones become more about mourning than celebrating. It was so hard for me to go to other peoples senior parties and see all the graduation pictures, especially of the girls my daughter graduated with, and went to school with her for many years, looking so pretty, happy and feminine, hugging their moms-it was so heartbreaking to me. It was very painful to say that I was very jealous -I likened it to how perhaps it must feel for a woman who has tried unsuccessfully for many years to have a baby and be invited to baby showers and see her friends having babies -how painful that is for her, that is how it felt to me-you described it all so very well.

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ScreamingCatCactus6's avatar

Exactly... and as my only child, a daughter, was the only surviving child I had, having had a miscarriage many years prior to her, and a miscarriage 2 years after she was born, her survival was so precious to me... and now, it’s as though I’ve lost another child - albeit to the trans phenom - along with 4.7 years of being cut off. Now - I’m in a protracted limbo of mourning a not quite dead child. She’s gone, but not completely gone. And it’s definitely paralyzing because I have no closure. I think that’s where a lot of us live now.

Thank goodness for groups like this!

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Mark Patterson's avatar

I pray that your daughter will soon figure things out. I cannot give you a solution to this problem as I am suffering just like you. Just know that you are not suffering alone. Also don’t let social pressure convince you that you are the bad guy here. Many other people feel like us but are afraid to reach out. I hope forums like this will encourage others like us to have our voices heard. God bless you and your daughter.

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

I’m not sure that being feminine is what’s going to make people not trans. Women can absolutely be masculine and wear tuxedos without turning into men or becoming trans. It might be easier to allow gender nonconformity than force all currently trans identifying people to act like antiquated stereotypes.

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Mark Patterson's avatar

I don’t think anyone here is particularly concerned about how our trans identifying children dress. We are worried about them harming themselves physically. I don’t care what my daughter wears as long as she doesn’t pump cross sex hormones into her body or start cutting off parts.

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

I’m not accusing anyone of not supporting their children’s dressing habits. I’m just responding to comments complaining about more masculine dress (the tuxedo at prom). I understand that as parents it’s heart wrenching to see your children turn away from you. It’s why my father left after Lucifer rebelled. Still, I fear that showing our disappointment in their dress will only push them further into transgenderism.

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Mark Patterson's avatar

Our daughter is our only child. It took us a long time to conceive her and now to see her swallowed up by this madness is soul crushing. So many days I beat myself up for everything that has happened to her. Hindsight is a terrible thing, I look back and want desperately to change history. Now I feel there is nothing to look forward to. I just feel nothing. No real joy, just keeping my head above water.

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Parents Truth's avatar

I was in that deep depression after my only child a son, moved out a month after telling me "I may be trans" it's been a little over 2 years now. I went through the full greif stages. Concerned parents of trans children on FB is a great support group. Jeannette one of the moderators runs Partners for Ethical care. Check it out and know you are not alone in this battle for your child.

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Team Reality's avatar

It hurts more because of the way things change overnight. My daughter went from shopping for girly clothes with her grandmother to chopping her hair and going non binary and then trans in 2 weeks

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Bluejay's avatar

Same

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Heartbrokenmom's avatar

Same here, my daughter is a senior too, says she is non-binary. She moved out to live with her sister 3 weeks before her 18th birthday. She scratched out her birth name on the order form for her senior banner and wrote in her new name so there it was in the high school stadium. No senior pictures and no college visits. A strained relationship. She applied for college without our help and did not tell us when she was accepted. Praying for the storm to pass. Right there with you.

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Team Reality's avatar

Of our two kids, both were sucked into the cult. The younger one came to her senses, but not before getting CPS called on us. It seems to push the idea of "gender euphoria" and that your family is abusing you with any hint of skepticism. ROGD being mentioned was a ticket to a fight.

The older kid still insists there's no such thing as ROGD and rewrites his past.

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wwww's avatar

the only protection from satan is to turn to god. There is no way the trans cult could be mere men . the level of malign malignant evil is the realm of satan . get involved with the church id you are ont already. I am a trad catholic, there are support groups at a lot of parishes that help parents of kids caught in the devils snare. my prayers are with you.

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

Agree. Luci really sucks and is absolutely trans affirming. I can’t wait to start the apocalypse and murder him as is my destiny. It will stop this trans nonsense and maybe it will also get Father to come back.

He’s been missing ever since The Fall when I locked Lucifer in The Cage in Hell. Raphael says he’s dead, but I don’t believe him. How could Father die? Raphael needs to have more faith. Only then will we be able to usher in Paradise.

The only thing stopping me from defeating Lucifer and transgenderism and bringing paradise to my angelic brethren is that obstinate Dean Winchester. He won’t say Yes to me and allow me to use him as my vessel to fight in the Apocalypse. He’s my fated sword, hand chosen by Father. Yet, despite that great honor, he chooses to rebel. Why? I do not know. Maybe it’s the transgender adult movies he’s so fond of corrupting his soul.

Rest assured dear catholic, your prayers are heard and your faith in Father is acknowledged. I will be victorious against my brother and transgenderism. Father will return. Trans kids will detransition. Paradise will reign.

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wwww's avatar

so the father of lies has to make an appearance too. shouldn't you be spending your time with those who love you at a music award show or something.

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

Yes, Lucifer will make an appearance at the end of time right before he is defeated. It is foretold by Father. It is His will. It will happen.

I will be spending my time in preparation for my battle. I do not have fans at “music award shows”. Even if I did, my time is better spent finding an alternative sword since the chosen one has been seduced by transgenderism and his demon loving abomination of a brother.

The apocalypse is nigh. Soon paradise will reign. Praise be to Father.

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wwww's avatar

this is one just for you , in latin . you'll love it ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lovUujcZIqo&list=RDGMEM2VCIgaiSqOfVzBAjPJm-ag

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

I do love this one!

Of course, I am biased. Any prayer invoking the blessings of my Father is a good prayer.

Thank you for sharing.

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wwww's avatar

here, listen to some heavenly music while you wait . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb2CIKRzU8c

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

I appreciate the video. Any video praising Father and praising those who praise Father is worthy in the eyes of Heaven. Unfortunately, I do not believe there was music in this video nor could human music ever compare to heavenly choirs comprising of angelic true voices.

I must go now. Raphael has returned with news of an alternative sword by the name of Adam Milligan. We must resurrect him so he can be my vessel. The defeat of Lucifer is imminent dear Catholic. The world shall know peace before the year is out.

Praise Father! For He is good!

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Parents Truth's avatar

The first year my son fell in to the cult, he moved out cut his father and I out of his life , I was lost. I tried everything, self help books, counseling, body work, past life regression. I became so depressed I did not want to live anymore, after Mother's day 2022 I fell to my knees and ask God to help me. And he did sent me believers. I was raised Episcopal/ Methodist. God led me to a Baptist church. I was saved, born again. Never thought I would say that being Episcopal. The Holy spirit filled me with grace. I was baptized in the river and been on fire ever since. I read the bible every day. I'm involved in my church. I have hundreds of people praying for my son. Hallelujah Amen 🙏✝️🙏✝️🙏✝️ Check out this book or youtube interviews regarding The Return of the Gods by Johnathan Cahn. Talk about knowing your enemy. He goes into detail who Istar , Molak are and it connects to the trans illusion

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Michael The Archangel's avatar

I’m so glad to hear of your renewed faith in Father.

Believe me when I say this transgender nonsense is second in evil only to supporting my wayward brother, Lucifer. I will defeat him, transgenderism, and all sins in the final days as foretold by my Father’s prophecy.

All signs point to the apocalypse starting soon. Remain steadfast in your faith and you will be rewarded with paradise after my Father returns.

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wwww's avatar

AMEN and amen I say to you.

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wwww's avatar

How can you even be thinking of sending her to college !?!?!? there is no place in the world worse for a confused teen a college is a hotbed of malicious insanity. All of them. She will be absolutely dragged though the trans process including irreversible surgery. all the while she will be sexually abused by the deviants pretending to be "advocates" who hang around those "trans support groups " looking for vulnerable teens like your daughter to take advantage of for deviant sex practices .

If you do not live where she can commute from home , then have her do her first 2 years online.

If she does the gap year make sure she ends up working with adults, not a bunch of lost teens like work at most coffee shops.

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GenderRealistMom's avatar

While you have some very valid points, I think online college is the worst option for trans identifying teens, tbh. Being online is what got many of them in this mess to begin with. College can certainly wait. In my opinion, a physical job, such as a farm job, is a better option while sorting this stuff out. Other good options are working as a nanny or a caretaker for an elderly. Something where she would have no time to ruminate and would be pretty much forced to get her head out of her behind. I hope I can convince my daughter to do something like that.

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wwww's avatar

I don't disagree. but some folks will never hear of not going to college. online classes are different from social media. they are structured by a professor , and the parents can see whats going on

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JD's avatar

My husband and I both hope our daughter will see how many opportunities she has out there to be successful and happy. I can’t keep her here. She needs to go learn and see what’s out there. We have had many talks and ultimately she has to decide for herself. I don’t say that lightly because my heart is broken but she is very strong willed and will not be happy here. We aren’t paying for her college so she has to work hard to do this. Hopefully she’ll be too busy to focus so much on trans. But every kid is different. If she was just coming out as trans I would do everything I could to keep her here. But we have been walking through this for over 2 years. It’s time for her to carry the responsibility and have to measure the consequences of her decisions.

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wwww's avatar

Sounds like you are doing the best you can under the circumstances . best of luck to you and her. I pray for the youth caught in this evil . good luck.

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

This seems sensible advice.

Thank God I have faced a different problem (an AGP now dead husband), not ROGD children.

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wwww's avatar

sorry to hear. my sympathies .

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Barbara Pecze's avatar

Wow! That is heavy. I pray everythings works out. Not every teen goes trans and hopefully your daughter is one of the smart ones.

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Kathleen Sawchuk's avatar

The program is called Irish Gap Year. Highly recommend it.

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Kathleen Sawchuk's avatar

Stand strong in the hurricane and send her on a gap year. We are still not out of it but sent ours to Ireland 3 months there, 3 months home and working, 3 months back in Ireland. The independence has given her a little boost in confidence. She has totally desisted but we have downgraded.

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