Thanks for highlighting another often over-looked issue with the transgender machine. Parents can also change the sex designation on the birth certificate of their minor children further strengthening the delusion. That affects school records, too.
Government has to stop catering to subjective sexual self identity and restore reality. Gender Ideology undermines all government data from the census to criminal stats.
>> A birth certificate is a statement of fact, issued by an official authority, attesting to the truthfulness of a birth.
Unless you’re adopted, in which case the true and accurate record of birth has been falsified to state that the adoptive parents gave birth to the adopted child.
Given that this legal fiction has been going on for almost a century, it’s not hard to see why changes for gender ideology wouldn’t also be allowed. The reality is that they’re NOT always true and, yes, this is problematic for many, many reasons.
We should be fighting to prevent ALL changes to birth certificates, other than in the rare cases of clerical error or amending to add a bio father’s name. In all other instances, the birth certificate should not be changed AT ALL.
As a matter of fact, birth certificates (in California at least) are not changed for clerical errors.
We tried. God knows we tried. But all they'll do is staple a correction to the original, including the question: "Why did you change your mind?" About the typist's *clerical error*.
This is why our son is listed on his birth certificate as his own father.
There should be the real Certificate of Live Birth and maybe a second Certificate of Adoption with the names of the parents raising the child. Then, if the Birth Certificate is sealed for, say, 20 years, OK. No 3 year old is going to look at legal records and be alarmed to learn at that early stage that he/she is adopted. And, the parents who raise the child know they did not create the baby.
Falsifying facts and reinventing history with legal records can lead to so many problems.
And, adding insult to a great deal of injury in the case of cult identity - is the fact that we are generally talking about erasing the experience of parents who did not give up their baby but raised the child with love and care and are still fighting for their welfare. Plus, sex is a very basic fact to retroactively falsify on a birth record. Like, is the next thing to say on a certificate that the baby was still born? Then, create a new certificate with a different sex, size, age...?
Is this the next thing after "dead name" - a "dead cerfiticate"? Can random glitter parents be retroactively assigned as the birth parents? Can two glitters of the same sex be put down for that role?
I also do not feel it is ok to make false birth certificate for adoption.
I believe this should not be hidden from the baby. Why would you lie to your kid that you have born him or her? I do not get that. I could not build a relationship on that fundamental scam.
I like what MeriBear said below about how there could be basically an addendum to the birth certificate reflecting an adoption. I get not wanting to explain it to a child at too young an age but little children are not the ones looking at legal records.
And, it never occurred to me that same sex couples who adopt would therefore be shown as birth parents now on falsified birth certificates. Uhhh... There are so many cascading dystopian problems from rewriting the truth.
For medical reasons birth information needs to be 100 percent true. The true biological parents are genetic information, important in knowing what diseases a person should be careful of. It could determine decisions related to cancer prevention, diabetes, mental health, and many other health concerns.
It is Orwellian to change a historical document. I think my son has changed his birth certificate with his new "legal" name, which includes a different first and last name. How utterly insulting. A birth certificate that lists a different name from the chosen birth name and the incorrect sex is a mockery of my pregnancy and delivery, which inherently include substantial effort and medical risks. Changing a birth certificate is another ripple of the trans nightmare in which expressing the nuances about the tentacles of trauma and sorrow is elusive. The absurd defiling of reality and the well-being of everyone involved lurks underneath words.
I agree for the most part. I have two trans adult children and I have made my will such that if any of my children have legally changed their given names at the time of my death (not surnames), they will not get a share of my estate. It is just a little thing I can do to protest them jettisoning the names I carefully and thoughtfully chose for them before their birth. As for birth certificates, is anyone aware that when someone is adopted, the birth certificate is changed? As a lawyer, I have handled many adoptions in the past 28 years and once the adoption was finalized by the court, the next step was to send a certified copy of the adoption order to the state vital records with the application to change the birth certificate. Per the author, that is a legal falsehood. I don’t disagree, but it is how it is done currently. If an adult wants to be adopted by someone other than a biological parent, no notice to the biological parent is even required. An adult child can be adopted by one or two new parents, go through the legal process, and change their birth certificate, all without their biological parents ever knowing. It might be that birth certificates should be changed to have the facts at the time of birth and a section that shows changes after that time and have a reason listed. That would incorporate the truth at birth, and any changes made by the certificated individual after that time. It is more complicated than the author knows. But the author made a good point. A birth certificate is a record made at the time of birth. Why are any changes allowed to be made to it?
"Birth certificates should be changed to have the facts at the time of birth and a section that shows changes after that time and have a reason listed. That would incorporate the truth at birth, and any changes made by the certificated individual after that time". I agree, this is how it should be done, not completely wiping out the facts, which is so wrong!
I have been contemplating how to execute my parent’s trust when the time comes, probably within the year when my mom passes. My estranged son legally changed his name as did my niece. (I don’t know if she changed her sex marker, my son as of now has not.) The grandchildren will get a small sum of money per the trust but the trust uses their birth names as it was written before the trans crap and my dad passed shortly after it was created. If I write the checks in their birth names per the trust, will they still be able to cash it? I also wonder what he would think about my son’s estranging over the trans crap; would he have written them out?
My son just received a legacy from my father's estate. Because my son was known by his middle name growing up, my father named him in his will by that middle name. But the check (as per my sister's greater knowledge) was written in his full name--including the middle name--with instructions that if they'd used to wrong name he'd have to let them know.
If the people named in your mother's will no longer "exist," then they are, obviously, no longer named in that will and, therefore, no longer able to inherit.
Your trans child who changed his name may not be able to cash the check if his ID does not match the name on the check. As the trustee, you cannot alter the terms of the trust. Your loyalty has to be to the terms of the trust.
Without communication with the dead, it is hard to know what our deceased parents would have done, but since the trust is already executed and is a legal valid document since that time, it says what it says. Only if your mother is competent and able to amend the trust could it be changed. You cannot. The onus is on the adult children who changed their legal names to decide what they want to do.
Let the beneficiary of the trust identify himself or herself correctly, to collect the benefit. Being a trustee means you follow the rules of the trust. The purpose of a trust is to over-ride the judgement of the beneficiary. Not to give free choice.
My sentiments exactly. When our daughter asked us for her birth certificate when she was in college so she could have it changed, we neglected to find it for her. We knew she would apply for a copy of the birth certificate and ultimately have her name changed on it, but we did not affirm her choice of being trans, so we did not want to be party to a change of this document. Plus the document had our names on it!
"A birth certificate is not the property of the child whose birth is documented. It is a factual record that belongs to the public. It is a factual record not only of the child in question but also of the mother who gave birth to the baby and, in most cases, of the child’s father."
This is the aspect which disturbs me the most. If this is a legal document and does not belong to the named persons, it becomes a sham if it is changed. I don't want my name on a fictitious document.
Along those same lines of incongruous circumstances, how could our daughter have been allowed to continue to attend an all female college in New England and then change her name to a male name and take on the dress and persona of a male? She graduated as a 'male'. The school was fully aware of this well in advance. She had changed her name on the school's registration and all of her professors and friends called her by this name. (She informed us of this just before graduation.) And yet the education loan that we signed and paid for continued to be in her female name.
Our daughter applied in 2007, graduated HS in 2008. Men were not allowed to register full time at her school. I think even in 2012 when she graduated from this 'all female college', there were no full time registered bio males, but there were a few who took a class or two. In 2012, the school was still advertising 'all female'.
If I was a foreign nation, I would refuse to accept documents from places that allowed this type of fraud. And let's call it what it really is, which IS fraud. These people have not changed their sex; they will always be the sex they were born as. Every cell in their body know this. If governments want to add a section in passports to show some sort of appearance qualification like "presents as a man" then that's an option. But to lie on a government document that a male is now a female is fraudulent and should be treated as such. I simply cannot believe that actual governmental officials have agreed that this is somehow ok.
This is a much larger and more insidious narrative in the far left/cultural Marxist movement, which involves re-writing history and centering subjective "truth" over all else (which is an oxymoron, because truth is not subjective... more wordsmithing from far left, but I digress...) It prioritizes feelings over objective facts without consideration for the far-reaching implications, which are considerable and dire.
When I first heard that they can change birth certificates, I was dumbfounded. Like you say, these are official public records documenting an actual birth, little foot print and all. I still can’t quite believe that the government allowed people to alter them.
Another consideration: https://genspect.substack.com/p/ready-legal-identity-and-biological
Thanks for highlighting another often over-looked issue with the transgender machine. Parents can also change the sex designation on the birth certificate of their minor children further strengthening the delusion. That affects school records, too.
Government has to stop catering to subjective sexual self identity and restore reality. Gender Ideology undermines all government data from the census to criminal stats.
That must be absolutely forbidden and these corrupted certs fixed restored to true data, that always were.
>> A birth certificate is a statement of fact, issued by an official authority, attesting to the truthfulness of a birth.
Unless you’re adopted, in which case the true and accurate record of birth has been falsified to state that the adoptive parents gave birth to the adopted child.
Given that this legal fiction has been going on for almost a century, it’s not hard to see why changes for gender ideology wouldn’t also be allowed. The reality is that they’re NOT always true and, yes, this is problematic for many, many reasons.
We should be fighting to prevent ALL changes to birth certificates, other than in the rare cases of clerical error or amending to add a bio father’s name. In all other instances, the birth certificate should not be changed AT ALL.
As a matter of fact, birth certificates (in California at least) are not changed for clerical errors.
We tried. God knows we tried. But all they'll do is staple a correction to the original, including the question: "Why did you change your mind?" About the typist's *clerical error*.
This is why our son is listed on his birth certificate as his own father.
Wow, I did not know that was done for adoption.
There should be the real Certificate of Live Birth and maybe a second Certificate of Adoption with the names of the parents raising the child. Then, if the Birth Certificate is sealed for, say, 20 years, OK. No 3 year old is going to look at legal records and be alarmed to learn at that early stage that he/she is adopted. And, the parents who raise the child know they did not create the baby.
Falsifying facts and reinventing history with legal records can lead to so many problems.
And, adding insult to a great deal of injury in the case of cult identity - is the fact that we are generally talking about erasing the experience of parents who did not give up their baby but raised the child with love and care and are still fighting for their welfare. Plus, sex is a very basic fact to retroactively falsify on a birth record. Like, is the next thing to say on a certificate that the baby was still born? Then, create a new certificate with a different sex, size, age...?
Is this the next thing after "dead name" - a "dead cerfiticate"? Can random glitter parents be retroactively assigned as the birth parents? Can two glitters of the same sex be put down for that role?
I also do not feel it is ok to make false birth certificate for adoption.
I believe this should not be hidden from the baby. Why would you lie to your kid that you have born him or her? I do not get that. I could not build a relationship on that fundamental scam.
I like what MeriBear said below about how there could be basically an addendum to the birth certificate reflecting an adoption. I get not wanting to explain it to a child at too young an age but little children are not the ones looking at legal records.
And, it never occurred to me that same sex couples who adopt would therefore be shown as birth parents now on falsified birth certificates. Uhhh... There are so many cascading dystopian problems from rewriting the truth.
If your adopted child would ask "did you give birth to me?" would you say "yes"? I could not say that.
I agree
Now, when they are two little to ask I don't think it's a great idea to introduce the subject.
I would say just the truth. Introducing the fact of adoption since beginning when a child is able to understand.
For medical reasons birth information needs to be 100 percent true. The true biological parents are genetic information, important in knowing what diseases a person should be careful of. It could determine decisions related to cancer prevention, diabetes, mental health, and many other health concerns.
Even incest!
In cases where a parent is unknown, fine, but the record shouldn't be a lie.
It is Orwellian to change a historical document. I think my son has changed his birth certificate with his new "legal" name, which includes a different first and last name. How utterly insulting. A birth certificate that lists a different name from the chosen birth name and the incorrect sex is a mockery of my pregnancy and delivery, which inherently include substantial effort and medical risks. Changing a birth certificate is another ripple of the trans nightmare in which expressing the nuances about the tentacles of trauma and sorrow is elusive. The absurd defiling of reality and the well-being of everyone involved lurks underneath words.
The insult to the woman who gestated and gave birth to that child cannot be overstated.
We risked our LIVES to bring our children into this world.
But the men financing the male supremacist transgenderism lobby hate women and will do anything to erase us from our own lives.
yes please... immediately... there is too much confusion
I agree for the most part. I have two trans adult children and I have made my will such that if any of my children have legally changed their given names at the time of my death (not surnames), they will not get a share of my estate. It is just a little thing I can do to protest them jettisoning the names I carefully and thoughtfully chose for them before their birth. As for birth certificates, is anyone aware that when someone is adopted, the birth certificate is changed? As a lawyer, I have handled many adoptions in the past 28 years and once the adoption was finalized by the court, the next step was to send a certified copy of the adoption order to the state vital records with the application to change the birth certificate. Per the author, that is a legal falsehood. I don’t disagree, but it is how it is done currently. If an adult wants to be adopted by someone other than a biological parent, no notice to the biological parent is even required. An adult child can be adopted by one or two new parents, go through the legal process, and change their birth certificate, all without their biological parents ever knowing. It might be that birth certificates should be changed to have the facts at the time of birth and a section that shows changes after that time and have a reason listed. That would incorporate the truth at birth, and any changes made by the certificated individual after that time. It is more complicated than the author knows. But the author made a good point. A birth certificate is a record made at the time of birth. Why are any changes allowed to be made to it?
Birth certificates are documents governed by state laws. Every state would have to decide to change their forms. I don’t see that happening.
"Birth certificates should be changed to have the facts at the time of birth and a section that shows changes after that time and have a reason listed. That would incorporate the truth at birth, and any changes made by the certificated individual after that time". I agree, this is how it should be done, not completely wiping out the facts, which is so wrong!
I have been contemplating how to execute my parent’s trust when the time comes, probably within the year when my mom passes. My estranged son legally changed his name as did my niece. (I don’t know if she changed her sex marker, my son as of now has not.) The grandchildren will get a small sum of money per the trust but the trust uses their birth names as it was written before the trans crap and my dad passed shortly after it was created. If I write the checks in their birth names per the trust, will they still be able to cash it? I also wonder what he would think about my son’s estranging over the trans crap; would he have written them out?
No, they will not be able to cash it.
My son just received a legacy from my father's estate. Because my son was known by his middle name growing up, my father named him in his will by that middle name. But the check (as per my sister's greater knowledge) was written in his full name--including the middle name--with instructions that if they'd used to wrong name he'd have to let them know.
If the people named in your mother's will no longer "exist," then they are, obviously, no longer named in that will and, therefore, no longer able to inherit.
Your trans child who changed his name may not be able to cash the check if his ID does not match the name on the check. As the trustee, you cannot alter the terms of the trust. Your loyalty has to be to the terms of the trust.
Without communication with the dead, it is hard to know what our deceased parents would have done, but since the trust is already executed and is a legal valid document since that time, it says what it says. Only if your mother is competent and able to amend the trust could it be changed. You cannot. The onus is on the adult children who changed their legal names to decide what they want to do.
Let the beneficiary of the trust identify himself or herself correctly, to collect the benefit. Being a trustee means you follow the rules of the trust. The purpose of a trust is to over-ride the judgement of the beneficiary. Not to give free choice.
My sentiments exactly. When our daughter asked us for her birth certificate when she was in college so she could have it changed, we neglected to find it for her. We knew she would apply for a copy of the birth certificate and ultimately have her name changed on it, but we did not affirm her choice of being trans, so we did not want to be party to a change of this document. Plus the document had our names on it!
"A birth certificate is not the property of the child whose birth is documented. It is a factual record that belongs to the public. It is a factual record not only of the child in question but also of the mother who gave birth to the baby and, in most cases, of the child’s father."
This is the aspect which disturbs me the most. If this is a legal document and does not belong to the named persons, it becomes a sham if it is changed. I don't want my name on a fictitious document.
Along those same lines of incongruous circumstances, how could our daughter have been allowed to continue to attend an all female college in New England and then change her name to a male name and take on the dress and persona of a male? She graduated as a 'male'. The school was fully aware of this well in advance. She had changed her name on the school's registration and all of her professors and friends called her by this name. (She informed us of this just before graduation.) And yet the education loan that we signed and paid for continued to be in her female name.
MEN are now allowed to attend all-female colleges.
MEN.
The transgenderism lobby is a male supremacy lobby. It's the worst assault on women's rights in America we have seen in our entire lives.
Our daughter applied in 2007, graduated HS in 2008. Men were not allowed to register full time at her school. I think even in 2012 when she graduated from this 'all female college', there were no full time registered bio males, but there were a few who took a class or two. In 2012, the school was still advertising 'all female'.
If I was a foreign nation, I would refuse to accept documents from places that allowed this type of fraud. And let's call it what it really is, which IS fraud. These people have not changed their sex; they will always be the sex they were born as. Every cell in their body know this. If governments want to add a section in passports to show some sort of appearance qualification like "presents as a man" then that's an option. But to lie on a government document that a male is now a female is fraudulent and should be treated as such. I simply cannot believe that actual governmental officials have agreed that this is somehow ok.
This is a much larger and more insidious narrative in the far left/cultural Marxist movement, which involves re-writing history and centering subjective "truth" over all else (which is an oxymoron, because truth is not subjective... more wordsmithing from far left, but I digress...) It prioritizes feelings over objective facts without consideration for the far-reaching implications, which are considerable and dire.
The adults have left the room. We need them back.
When I first heard that they can change birth certificates, I was dumbfounded. Like you say, these are official public records documenting an actual birth, little foot print and all. I still can’t quite believe that the government allowed people to alter them.
It is absolutely insane that birth certificates can be changed. Lunacy.