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Prayingmother's avatar

Thanks for this article. Yes I’m traumatized and numb. My 29 year old has cut all contact off.

I wish there was a nation wide series on tv, internet, radio, YouTube telling the world this is a CULT. We need to some how make our kids get the truth.

Shut down all gender care clinics who don’t care and prescribe hormones 5 mins after a visit.

I pray daily and stay awake a night cuz I can’t wrap my head around this cult. Please do a public announcement so we can maybe show our kids they were led down the wrong path. Thanks

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WarriorMom's avatar

Thank you, Dr. Grossman, for the work you do and for "seeing" parents like us. And for acknowledging that what we are experiencing is trauma and betrayal - we are not being overly dramatic calling it that. When I read your book, I cried when I read this chapter because you were the first person to articulate what I was feeling. I photocopied the chapter and gave it to the two people left in my life who believed that my daughter was actually still female. I said "this is how I feel. This is my experience." One of those two people said she couldn't finish the chapter because it was "too painful to read." Yes, that is what I am living every single day.

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Ciaoshannon's avatar

The first time I heard your Jordan Peterson interview was the first time I felt like somebody really recogized how this hits parents, and cares about us - for ourselves and what WE are experiencing.

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Susan Z's avatar

I sometimes have dreams of my son stopping this, abruptly. Just calling me and saying its all a big mistake, I'm changing my name back to the name you and dad gave me almost 24 years ago. And maybe a little apology (something small would be fine) for the pain he put his late father through and continues to put on me. He says he's happy as God made him. He says he's cutting his hair and going to dress like a normal guy. And then I have a huge party with family and friends. I would want to have a big celebration. Like the parable of the Prodigal son in Luke's gospel. Then my family, including my son's 90 year old grandfather, and friends can meet my son as an adult for the first time. That would be the happiest day of my life.

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Alexander Joseph Hamburger's avatar

Thank you doctor Grossman. I am going to print your message on a piece of paper, and carry it around in my pocket. I want to have it so when I meet anyone who touches on this subject, I want to hand it out to be read. Because there is no way I could speak aloud what you have written. I would break.

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Jeremy Reilly's avatar

Love your book. Thank you for posting an excerpt here at PITT. I am sorry to read of so many parents in so much pain. This is true for my wife as well. It took several years for me, but I've dealt with the trauma. I created a grieving ceremony: I rended my clothing. I shaved my scalp. I shaved my beard. And I threw myself into a howling crying jag. And then I was done. I made every effort to reach my son and save him. Although my efforts did not and may not ever reach him, when this insanity and evil treatment of children ends—and it will because it is so gobsmacked insane—I am giving my son a gift: that I always put his well-being at the center of my efforts even though he hated me for it, he cut me off, family members cut me off, and society treats me as the problem. I held to the Truth.

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T Averitt's avatar

Thank you, from my whole being, for this acknowledgement.

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Hippiesq's avatar

I will add another thank you to the large pile because, Dr. Grossman, you deserve it, and because it is important for you to know that what you are doing and saying is extremely important for so many people.

Yes, this is trauma and loss - primary - our children's health (mental and physical) and our relationship with our children (whether changed or broken); and secondary - the laundry list is long, but includes not only a wide open future for our children that has been severely narrowed, but things wholly unrelated to our children, such as our faith in humanity. We all know about the horrors of genocide and slavery. We know people can be evil. Yet we believed we were in an enlightened time and place, safe from such evil. Now we feel how close we are to evil, how quickly and easily it can take over large swathes of society, eventually leading to unspeakable horrors. That loss of innocence is part of the secondary trauma and loss.

Anyway, I'm glad people like you are out there advocating for those of us who mostly remain in the dark, trying to help each other deal with our ambiguous loss and trauma.

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paleblue's avatar

I love that woman. I can't help it! When the darkness falls, and even those who know the truth may remain silent out of fear of retaliation...the personal courage to speak it, to go on the offensive, is vital.

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Allison's avatar

Thank you. Thank you and once again thank you. At long last the horrific shock and pain has been acknowledged. The day my son made the announcement he was supposed to be a female has at long last been acknowledged. This grief is shared among all of us - so I don't feel quite so alone. It's been 10 long years with no contact. It feels as if family life 'before' was a fairy tale. What will it take to hold these so called medical professionals accountable for the harm they've caused? My husband died of a heart attack 3 months after this announcement. All our children have embraced the transgender religion. My daughter is encouraging her 12 year old daughter to consider changing her gender if she likes. Another daughter has announced her son now wishes to be called They/ Them. They take great pride in the open minded approach they're raising their children. So sad. Another generation plagued by these delusions.

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1dEdited

I’m so sorry & feel for you, the ripple effect. The destruction of the family unit is so very real. And I agree, I think of our life before this happened as a fairytale too.

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Indio's avatar

Dear Dr. Grossman, thank you for all you have done during this insane period of human history, and thank you that you are continuing to inform and to fight for sanity. You are the voice of reason that we, the families involved, need so desperately. I wish there was an army of you. At least there are more advocates now for the truth than there was when I first became aware of this cult invading our youth. My grandson at 17 started dressing as a woman when my husband was dying of cancer, and I had no idea what was going on. Now, eleven years later, with three more grandchildren living this lie, I know more than I ever wanted to know. The main thing that I know now is that my mentally ill, traumatized and abused grandchildren were set up. From the psychologist that saw three of them, (affirming them in their fantasies), to family members going along with their madness; they were set up. I am alienated from them all, (their choice), but I still pray for their healing, waiting for all this farce to disintegrate and hoping the physical damages and the emotional damages can be overturned. Thank you for doing your part in bringing order out of chaos and offering comfort to families as the battle continues. There are changes in the wind.

Love, Indio

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Allison's avatar

Who would have imagined that there are grandmothers and grandfathers still having this nightmare. Yes... my grandchildren have been set up to accept this ideology as if it was normal by their parents, the world they live in from school to the social media. This is a mental illness. I don't know if there is a cure. At least through PITT and Dr. Grossman I can see I'm not alone.

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EyesOpen's avatar

When I first read the chapter, I burst into tears. I am not sure I can read it again. I skipped to the end because I just don't know if I can let myself cry that hard again, but it helped me so much the first time I read it, and I wanted to thank you.

Nothing has gotten better in my situation. It has gotten worse. But knowing someone gets it helps a bit. Thank you for bringing attention and care to us parents. It means more than you can ever imagine.

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Miriam Grossman MD's avatar

Parents, I am really moved by all your comments and gratitude. I wish I could respond to each one of you. I'm not done bringing attention to your plights. Stay tuned.

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Susan Z's avatar
2dEdited

Thank you for seeing us. The pain is always at the front of my mind. Knowing wise people like you acknowledge that pain is comforting. I was on the Zoom call when so many parents turned off the camera due to crying. I was one of those crying moms. I cried reading this chapter again. It is a release of emotion always just below the surface. You have my overwhelming gratitude.

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charlotte johnson's avatar

Simple words don’t convey what your words mean to us parents, Dr Grossman.

Thank you.

At my first Genspect conference in Denver, a woman at a booth noticed my sticker, signifying that I was a parent. She gently reached out and said “I’m sorry “. I burst into tears, unaware that I had any tears left.

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Anon's avatar

I agree, sometimes it’s worse, harder to hold it together when people show kindness.

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Concerned mom's avatar

The girl across the room dressed in a way you can’t quite describe without someone saying they are probably just emo or the quirky, shy, artistic girl wearing a hoodie two sizes too big for her in 90 degree weather - I can spot them from a mile away and these are one of my many triggers.

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Anon's avatar

Going to a baby shower & they’ve named their child your son’s ‘deadname’

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Kristal Silverton's avatar

I don't know that there is anything new I can add here as it has all been said so beautifully. One of the many moments seared in my memory from this death by a thousand cuts was locking myself in my bathroom so I could crumble on the floor sobbing simply after reading the title of Dr. Grossman's interview with Jordan Peterson. To see what I was experiencing described IN PRINT as the TRAUMA my heart and every cell in my body knew it was proved to be a pivotal moment in my healing. Another of the etched memories is the moment my copy of "Lost in Transnation" came in the mail and I hid it back in its package and scurried to my bedroom to hide from my young children. Opening it felt sacred and when I came to the chapter you shared here today there were so many more sobs and tears and moments of wonder and shouting out loud "you too?!" that I felt unhinged but also such catharsis. I was in disbelief that there were other parents who felt what I had been feeling in such isolation and shame and even more surprised a medical professional was validating these things that I truly thought I was the only human to experience. There is just no price tag or measurement or words to represent the monumental and eternal change you have made for so many of us, Dr. Grossman. There is not a morning that goes by that I do not pray for you by name. May God richly reward you for the way you have gifted yourself, at great cost to yourself, to minister to those of us who suffer in this painfully unique way.

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