The saddest part about this whole trans-cult is that parents really do lose their children, and their children lose themselves. Grieving for a lost child is very painful as you are stuck in a limbo state that is haunting and cruel. So many calendar dates are painful as the months slowly pass for special holidays, birthdays, Mother's Day, and Father's Day. Not knowing where your child is as he or she have chosen to reject you because the groomers brainwashed them, is unthinkable. I watched my sister grieve for over a year. Everything changes, but the memories and they at times bring comfort but at other times bring sorrow. I am so sad for your pain; you are not alone. We grieve together. We hope together.
After 3 years of her not being allowed to change herself while still doing school (as I prayed the time delay would change her plan), my only baby girl moved out last summer and then she quit talking to me just one day before Thanksgiving 2023, at age 23. So it has only been a little over 3 months. All thru the holidays. But I have this "please take me, God, strike me dead now if it might bring her back out of this, back to reality, and back to my family" thought every single day and night. Her 24th birthday will be April 1. Three days before my own birthday which I ignored every year after her birth so it would not distract from hers. God, help me. Help all of us. Please. I know it is only by Your grace and will that I survive this tearing of my heart into tiny pieces every day. Please work a miracle and wipe this trans cult off the face of the earth and bring our lost babes home. Please. Amen.
Wondering what we may be able to accomplish together. A sizable faction of trans culture is separating & dividing. Kids are told that their parents don’t love them, or even despise them if they do not affirm. The adults preaching this to your children are telling them that they accept, love, affirm, support them unconditionally as their true authentic selves (uhm, I would argue that most of the adult population continues to explore that well into old age). Who are the most vulnerable in our world? Children & teens… most notably those with significant & multiple maladjusted trauma reactions/responses (eating disordered behaviors, depression, dysregulated anxiety to identify a few). So many who share on this platform blow me away with the strength of humanity expressed in your writing. The more ways in which we can gather, communicate, & organize, I believe, we can do something to counteract the purposeful ATTEMPT to destroy the western family structure. Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions?
In a bigger picture, I believe we need to give good (like God etymology) energy to the good things that will make the bad (evil) things useless and unattractive. For example, homeschooling and healthy embodied culture. Put the energy into the good. I am not a reformer, and I feel super yuck to battle evil, but I feel great to stand up like a natural spring in anything that is good. And good doesn't mean necessarily that it feels pleasurable, but that it is good.
From toxic school to homeschool
From internet friends to real friends
From avatars to getting to be your actual self
From courts to community/family
From professionalized love (care) in all of its guises to REAL relational real people love and friendship and neighborliness.
No more fake stuff pretending to be a noble virtue. Nothing is a nourishing as the real stuff.
Great question. I fantasized for some time about looking actively locally for the other parents who were not presumed to affirm, so we can have each other. And then I'd think about getting trolled, which I do not think is a legitimate reason not to do it, but it arose in my mind. It also arose the idea of my son finding out and having an internal rage over how I'm promoting anti trans bigotry and helping parents be bad parents. It's really interesting what comes up.
I do believe that we must give of ourselves and be available to others to whose suffering we can offer understanding and compassion... That is very important to me, to not let others unnecessarily suffer alone.
And, the whole lockdown culture did make me realize just how crucial it is for us to be with each other, with real physical presence. I don't know how, but, when people get together, something incredible happens. We get a surge of inspiration in common. We add on to each other's ideas. We form fidelity, because really start to care, and the energy to move just rises up inside of us like a miracle.
Another fantasy was to put positive messages left in all kinds of places... Stuff like: your body is wonderful as it is, and you don't need to change it to be loved. Or: your parents love you!
I also fantasized about walking around in a sandwich board with some kind of message like that... Though it is not usually my nature to do that, and I know Billboard Chris had been treated quite roughly sometimes. But, there is a relief to DO SOMETHING. Anything.
I appreciate you asking the foundational questions. We need to keep asking them, and keep opening up this dirty earth until something can grow from it.
That is perhaps one of the hardest things; your child is not dead and yet he's not alive. I have sometimes felt in my most unhappy moments that perhaps it would be better if my son were dead, then I could grieve in peace. I wouldn't have to battle against those who have been captured by the ideology. I feel so guilty saying it. I wonder if these kids who estrange themselves from their parents have any conception of the pain they are inflicting on those who love them most.
I have to believe that 99% of these captured kids haven't a clue of the pain being absorbed by their parents. How can they? They simply haven't had enough life experience, especially from a parental pov. Good parents give everything, sacrifice some or even all of their own pleasures, for the growth and well being of their children. These children and young adults have hardly ever had to seriously look outside of themselves, serve, or give. Even if the miracle of desistance arrives, it will take years, maybe decades, for them to truly ascertain the scope of effects their captures has had on their loved ones. I will continue to pray for all of us parents and loved ones who have been banished by their once adorable little boy or girl.
I am SO, SO, embarrassed for my medical profession of which I have always been so proud. No more. I am so sorry for your loss and your pain. To have had a male member of the armed forces stand before a room of “compatriots” and lecture them on DEI, tolerance, broadening their minds, especially the ones who are resistant to transgenderism while dressed in a skirted uniform, pearl earrings, and a delicate, effeminate voice, nearly made me vomit. They will never “get it”
There's a release of "WPATH" internal docs right about now. I have not read them all, but the overall context is a bunch of unethical folks doing harmful procedures just to get paid.
September 2021 for us, I still don’t know how I got through that first year. There is no going back though, only forward through the debris. It’s slow and difficult and there have been so many days of just not moving at all.
Another “survivor” having to deal with the grief of losing a loved and cherished child, the cruelty is not lost on me. I’m so sorry for your pain and that of your husband. When and if you can we must all fight this insidious infection that has afflicted our lives and that of the children we brought into this world. I know it’s exhausting I live with my child and I’m still trying to find a way to reach her in her delusion but I refuse to give in l.
And in today's news... Doritos Spain has hired a "non-binary" influencer with a twitter history of posting wishes he could sodomize a 12 year old, and liked staring at an 8 year old with lust.
(other news sources have the story, but only this one has the actual receipts)
OMG. That’s a demon in plain sight and not even trying to conceal itself. The only appropriate pronoun for this one is “it”.
It is a thing, not a person. The de-evolving of mankind has begun and this is what it looks like. Humanity is fading and the replacement species is a big step backward.
I looked something up over the weekend regarding a medical condition and of course WebMd was the site I landed on. I was disappointed to see they could only refer to women as “those assigned female at birth”.
There’s so much wrong about that it would take hours to write it all so
I will spare the dissertation as I think anyone here can fill in a few easily.
The road back from this hell scape will be long and arduous.
2/ I was looking through photos yesterday. So many memories - the silly dress ups she wore, the piano recitals and school sports days, the birthday parties, the holidays with grandma, etc etc. This stupid ideology cannot erase my memories even if it's temporarily erased hers. At least I hope it's temporary. I truly hope that yours is too - hold on to the memories ❤️
I feel like I'm living in a field of debris too, my life has also been destroyed by this horrible ideology.
I don't know why I keep reading these stories ... the words cut deep, they evoke sadness and grief and I always end up crying a paragraph or two into the story. Actually, I do know why I read them ... it's because I can relate to the stories, the pain, and it helps to know that there are other people out there going through the same trauma.
I mean, I wish there weren't so many of you going through this trauma but it helps to know that someone truly understands.
I'm grateful to have a number of close friends who are supportive and understanding ... to a point. But they cannot understand the way these authors can.
I sometimes wonder how many others are there who feel their life has been destroyed by this hideous ideology, yet we all have to carry on, hiding our grief, while feeling our heart has been torn apart. Your words described exactly how I feel. I always end up crying a paragraph or two into these stories too, it’s impossible not to. This is my 10th year of grief, since my then 15yo slid into the abyss of “trans”. So much has happened that I never dreamed possible. It truly feels like a nightmare.
I know this feeling well. Sometimes I don't want to read these stories. You are correct that they bring more sadness but if I don't feel the pain of others, I am afraid I will just become a lifeless zombie. It hurts but it makes me feel alive at least. I am so so sorry for every parent in this thread
My heart truly breaks for you. If only our kids understood how they are attached and intertwined with our hearts. Usually that only happens when they have their own children. An option that is being eliminated.
I get your past relationship hurts too, but the issue with meeting new people is they still ask questions. How many children do you have? Is she in college?… Today I was just telling my aesthetician about how we dealt with her acne problems as a teenager and then she asked me how her skin was now. I was taken off guard by that and didn’t know how to answer so I just poured it out.
And perfect point as to why they estrange from all family. We know the truth, and they know we know the truth.
The sheer malevolence embedded in this ideology is limitless ,so only God knows how this will end. It's like humanity has gone completely insane !! Sending prayers and love to all those affected by this madness 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
My son came over yesterday to my home with his wife. We haven’t seen them since January 27th.
My oldest son, I could tell was having a hard time seeing his brother only 14 months different in age look like 1/2 women 1/2 man.
My 27 year old son had girl t-shirt, bra, and women shorts on. Long hair and a diamond ring on. But man shoes cuz of big feet. He looked unhealthy in my opinion.
He was more quiet but still my son when we did interact.
The only cheerleader in the home was his wife using his woman name and pronouns. None of us spoke those during this time.
We all were on eggshells trying not to mess up. It was sad and awkward for my oldest son and me.
I feel more concerned now how my oldest son is doing. I truly feel like he left with his heart broken because my son was his best friend and now he can’t even look at him. They have nothing in common.
Why did this cult come into our family and break it into pieces. How can we even begin to get help and heal him when his wife totally believes in this cult. I just have to pray her heart wakes up, as she is the key to get this stopped.
Her family has given up on them. I truly have gone numb but do worry for his health but I’m at lost of how to make him see he’s in a cult.
All I can do is pray. It’s in Jesus’ hands to turn this around. My heart aches for all of us in this sick cult we have to endure. Prayers to you all. 🥲
The saddest part about this whole trans-cult is that parents really do lose their children, and their children lose themselves. Grieving for a lost child is very painful as you are stuck in a limbo state that is haunting and cruel. So many calendar dates are painful as the months slowly pass for special holidays, birthdays, Mother's Day, and Father's Day. Not knowing where your child is as he or she have chosen to reject you because the groomers brainwashed them, is unthinkable. I watched my sister grieve for over a year. Everything changes, but the memories and they at times bring comfort but at other times bring sorrow. I am so sad for your pain; you are not alone. We grieve together. We hope together.
sending love. you are not alone. we understand.
My heart aches for everyone captured by this…..this man has some interesting videos…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBbeKT6QqUs
After 3 years of her not being allowed to change herself while still doing school (as I prayed the time delay would change her plan), my only baby girl moved out last summer and then she quit talking to me just one day before Thanksgiving 2023, at age 23. So it has only been a little over 3 months. All thru the holidays. But I have this "please take me, God, strike me dead now if it might bring her back out of this, back to reality, and back to my family" thought every single day and night. Her 24th birthday will be April 1. Three days before my own birthday which I ignored every year after her birth so it would not distract from hers. God, help me. Help all of us. Please. I know it is only by Your grace and will that I survive this tearing of my heart into tiny pieces every day. Please work a miracle and wipe this trans cult off the face of the earth and bring our lost babes home. Please. Amen.
AMEN TO THAT.
Beautiful prayer. Thank you for sharing it.
Wondering what we may be able to accomplish together. A sizable faction of trans culture is separating & dividing. Kids are told that their parents don’t love them, or even despise them if they do not affirm. The adults preaching this to your children are telling them that they accept, love, affirm, support them unconditionally as their true authentic selves (uhm, I would argue that most of the adult population continues to explore that well into old age). Who are the most vulnerable in our world? Children & teens… most notably those with significant & multiple maladjusted trauma reactions/responses (eating disordered behaviors, depression, dysregulated anxiety to identify a few). So many who share on this platform blow me away with the strength of humanity expressed in your writing. The more ways in which we can gather, communicate, & organize, I believe, we can do something to counteract the purposeful ATTEMPT to destroy the western family structure. Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions?
In a bigger picture, I believe we need to give good (like God etymology) energy to the good things that will make the bad (evil) things useless and unattractive. For example, homeschooling and healthy embodied culture. Put the energy into the good. I am not a reformer, and I feel super yuck to battle evil, but I feel great to stand up like a natural spring in anything that is good. And good doesn't mean necessarily that it feels pleasurable, but that it is good.
From toxic school to homeschool
From internet friends to real friends
From avatars to getting to be your actual self
From courts to community/family
From professionalized love (care) in all of its guises to REAL relational real people love and friendship and neighborliness.
No more fake stuff pretending to be a noble virtue. Nothing is a nourishing as the real stuff.
Great question. I fantasized for some time about looking actively locally for the other parents who were not presumed to affirm, so we can have each other. And then I'd think about getting trolled, which I do not think is a legitimate reason not to do it, but it arose in my mind. It also arose the idea of my son finding out and having an internal rage over how I'm promoting anti trans bigotry and helping parents be bad parents. It's really interesting what comes up.
I do believe that we must give of ourselves and be available to others to whose suffering we can offer understanding and compassion... That is very important to me, to not let others unnecessarily suffer alone.
And, the whole lockdown culture did make me realize just how crucial it is for us to be with each other, with real physical presence. I don't know how, but, when people get together, something incredible happens. We get a surge of inspiration in common. We add on to each other's ideas. We form fidelity, because really start to care, and the energy to move just rises up inside of us like a miracle.
Another fantasy was to put positive messages left in all kinds of places... Stuff like: your body is wonderful as it is, and you don't need to change it to be loved. Or: your parents love you!
I also fantasized about walking around in a sandwich board with some kind of message like that... Though it is not usually my nature to do that, and I know Billboard Chris had been treated quite roughly sometimes. But, there is a relief to DO SOMETHING. Anything.
I appreciate you asking the foundational questions. We need to keep asking them, and keep opening up this dirty earth until something can grow from it.
That is perhaps one of the hardest things; your child is not dead and yet he's not alive. I have sometimes felt in my most unhappy moments that perhaps it would be better if my son were dead, then I could grieve in peace. I wouldn't have to battle against those who have been captured by the ideology. I feel so guilty saying it. I wonder if these kids who estrange themselves from their parents have any conception of the pain they are inflicting on those who love them most.
I have to believe that 99% of these captured kids haven't a clue of the pain being absorbed by their parents. How can they? They simply haven't had enough life experience, especially from a parental pov. Good parents give everything, sacrifice some or even all of their own pleasures, for the growth and well being of their children. These children and young adults have hardly ever had to seriously look outside of themselves, serve, or give. Even if the miracle of desistance arrives, it will take years, maybe decades, for them to truly ascertain the scope of effects their captures has had on their loved ones. I will continue to pray for all of us parents and loved ones who have been banished by their once adorable little boy or girl.
I am SO, SO, embarrassed for my medical profession of which I have always been so proud. No more. I am so sorry for your loss and your pain. To have had a male member of the armed forces stand before a room of “compatriots” and lecture them on DEI, tolerance, broadening their minds, especially the ones who are resistant to transgenderism while dressed in a skirted uniform, pearl earrings, and a delicate, effeminate voice, nearly made me vomit. They will never “get it”
There's a release of "WPATH" internal docs right about now. I have not read them all, but the overall context is a bunch of unethical folks doing harmful procedures just to get paid.
September 2021 for us, I still don’t know how I got through that first year. There is no going back though, only forward through the debris. It’s slow and difficult and there have been so many days of just not moving at all.
Another “survivor” having to deal with the grief of losing a loved and cherished child, the cruelty is not lost on me. I’m so sorry for your pain and that of your husband. When and if you can we must all fight this insidious infection that has afflicted our lives and that of the children we brought into this world. I know it’s exhausting I live with my child and I’m still trying to find a way to reach her in her delusion but I refuse to give in l.
And in today's news... Doritos Spain has hired a "non-binary" influencer with a twitter history of posting wishes he could sodomize a 12 year old, and liked staring at an 8 year old with lust.
(other news sources have the story, but only this one has the actual receipts)
https://dailycaller.com/2024/03/04/doritos-terrifying-brand-ambassador-dylan-mulvaney-sydney-sweeney-pepsi/
OMG. That’s a demon in plain sight and not even trying to conceal itself. The only appropriate pronoun for this one is “it”.
It is a thing, not a person. The de-evolving of mankind has begun and this is what it looks like. Humanity is fading and the replacement species is a big step backward.
I looked something up over the weekend regarding a medical condition and of course WebMd was the site I landed on. I was disappointed to see they could only refer to women as “those assigned female at birth”.
There’s so much wrong about that it would take hours to write it all so
I will spare the dissertation as I think anyone here can fill in a few easily.
The road back from this hell scape will be long and arduous.
2/ I was looking through photos yesterday. So many memories - the silly dress ups she wore, the piano recitals and school sports days, the birthday parties, the holidays with grandma, etc etc. This stupid ideology cannot erase my memories even if it's temporarily erased hers. At least I hope it's temporary. I truly hope that yours is too - hold on to the memories ❤️
This is one of the most painful things. The kids deny they actually had a happy childhood with a variety of experiences.
I feel like I'm living in a field of debris too, my life has also been destroyed by this horrible ideology.
I don't know why I keep reading these stories ... the words cut deep, they evoke sadness and grief and I always end up crying a paragraph or two into the story. Actually, I do know why I read them ... it's because I can relate to the stories, the pain, and it helps to know that there are other people out there going through the same trauma.
I mean, I wish there weren't so many of you going through this trauma but it helps to know that someone truly understands.
I'm grateful to have a number of close friends who are supportive and understanding ... to a point. But they cannot understand the way these authors can.
I sometimes wonder how many others are there who feel their life has been destroyed by this hideous ideology, yet we all have to carry on, hiding our grief, while feeling our heart has been torn apart. Your words described exactly how I feel. I always end up crying a paragraph or two into these stories too, it’s impossible not to. This is my 10th year of grief, since my then 15yo slid into the abyss of “trans”. So much has happened that I never dreamed possible. It truly feels like a nightmare.
I know this feeling well. Sometimes I don't want to read these stories. You are correct that they bring more sadness but if I don't feel the pain of others, I am afraid I will just become a lifeless zombie. It hurts but it makes me feel alive at least. I am so so sorry for every parent in this thread
Your story is mine. I’m so very sorry for your pain!
My heart truly breaks for you. If only our kids understood how they are attached and intertwined with our hearts. Usually that only happens when they have their own children. An option that is being eliminated.
I get your past relationship hurts too, but the issue with meeting new people is they still ask questions. How many children do you have? Is she in college?… Today I was just telling my aesthetician about how we dealt with her acne problems as a teenager and then she asked me how her skin was now. I was taken off guard by that and didn’t know how to answer so I just poured it out.
And perfect point as to why they estrange from all family. We know the truth, and they know we know the truth.
The sheer malevolence embedded in this ideology is limitless ,so only God knows how this will end. It's like humanity has gone completely insane !! Sending prayers and love to all those affected by this madness 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
My son came over yesterday to my home with his wife. We haven’t seen them since January 27th.
My oldest son, I could tell was having a hard time seeing his brother only 14 months different in age look like 1/2 women 1/2 man.
My 27 year old son had girl t-shirt, bra, and women shorts on. Long hair and a diamond ring on. But man shoes cuz of big feet. He looked unhealthy in my opinion.
He was more quiet but still my son when we did interact.
The only cheerleader in the home was his wife using his woman name and pronouns. None of us spoke those during this time.
We all were on eggshells trying not to mess up. It was sad and awkward for my oldest son and me.
I feel more concerned now how my oldest son is doing. I truly feel like he left with his heart broken because my son was his best friend and now he can’t even look at him. They have nothing in common.
Why did this cult come into our family and break it into pieces. How can we even begin to get help and heal him when his wife totally believes in this cult. I just have to pray her heart wakes up, as she is the key to get this stopped.
Her family has given up on them. I truly have gone numb but do worry for his health but I’m at lost of how to make him see he’s in a cult.
All I can do is pray. It’s in Jesus’ hands to turn this around. My heart aches for all of us in this sick cult we have to endure. Prayers to you all. 🥲
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