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Adri Mans's avatar

Thanks! This shows the madness we are facing. That we are talking about "affirming" children that they don't know anything about the world and life, and "push" them into hormones to stop their human natural development so they can decide without the burden of puberty if they "want" to be "female or male" or anything in "between" is inconceivable to all of us that still have any brain left, and common sense.

Mom First's avatar

Oof listening to it was maddening! I kept hearing parental rights over and over again. Yet parental rights are stripped by schools for social transition, and by therapists in the therapists office and at the ER and mental hospitals.

Yet they (the believers) probably listen to us (the non believers) and feel it’s maddening to them.

paleblue's avatar

"Senator Bernie Sanders echoed the same sentiment, saying that gender-affirming care for youth should be decided by doctors, patients, and parents—not politicians or the federal government." I used to like Sanders 15 or so years ago when I was a "progressive". Now he just disgusts me. He's just as ideologically driven and intellectually lazy as the rest, probably more so. And, obviously, they are only for "parental rights" when it benefits their program, which is to trans/destroy as many children and young adults as humanly possible, all under the guise of compassion.

Anon's avatar

I watched this too & was appalled that it was framed yet again as an issue affecting a tiny fraction of the population & was being used to score political points. Bernie walked out early disgusted. And no one could deny Chloe Cole’s testimony. I wrote to Bill Cassidy & my senators to describe how poorly us parents were represented. Furious. Portrayed as if the compassion was all on their side, we will love you & be there for you, if your parents are not.

senora sangria's avatar

Please send this (or a letter of similar content) to Bernie.

Alexander Joseph Hamburger's avatar

Parents have an obligation to protect children from harm. There is no right to harm children. The idea that parents have a right to choose sex rejection for children is an evil, horrendous lie. Parents have no right to choose to sterilize their children. Parents have no right to mutilate children with surgeries and puberty blockers and cross sex hormones.

Un-silent's avatar

True, and those who protect their children are the ones who they consider the enemy.

for the kids's avatar

Yes, it's only the rights of parents who think the "right things" according to the current affirming fad. Ie not the rights of the parents at all, but of those who have imposed their drastic approach, without evidence that it is even likely to help more than harm, on half of the US. I wish someone had played the WPATH talk which said to bring in CPS (I think I got that right) and ask what they think of that.

The same argument goes for the AAP. And California...

Hippiesq's avatar

You are 100% correct, and this should be obvious. However, once the notion that there is such a thing as a "trans child" colors everything, nobody can see the obvious truth.

I mean, I struggle to agree that society needs to allow parents to refuse to provide time-honored treatments that are known to save the lives of children with well understood medical conditions. (See an episode of Family Guy - in my opinion one of the best episodes from a social commentary perspective - where a child has a very treatable form of cancer and the parents want to pray the sickness away and refuse treatment, but Lois convinces them that perhaps their prayers have brought the doctors and treatments to them.)

So, if one thinks being a "trans child" is a REAL condition, and that the ONLY treatment, and a very EFFECTIVE AND BENEFICIAL treatment, is to lie to the child about their sex and then use chemicals and surgeries to alter the child's body to appear the opposite sex - an admittedly insane notion with no basis whatsoever in reality - then one might conclude that parents who refuse this treatment are SUPER BAD and STUPID and, most importantly, ABUSIVE. Therefore, one might conclude that these parents should be overridden in the best interests of the child.

Of course, if things are the other way around, and these ":treatments" are the real abuse, then it would stand to reason that outlawing the "treatments" is in the best interests of all children, and parents who push for these treatments are advocating for abusing their own children. However, we never get to that discussion because people never get passed the notion of the "trans child."

Mama Ain't Playin''s avatar

I may have made this point here before but: has anyone else noticed that for the last 15 years stories of Munchausen-by-Proxy mom stories have nearly disappeared? They were a regular feature of the 2000s, but now I think they've been replaced by all these heroic Transhausen-by-Proxy mothers.

Trans is the new fashionable self-harm--for Munchie moms it's the socially acceptable way to stunt your child's growth, ensure they'll never leave home, and immiserate themselves in permanent victimhood so mommy will always be their very best friend.

The devouring mother can never be defeated, not with all of the nice people at the clinics and hospitals to help.

Beeswax's avatar

"If he is so convinced of his principled stance, why wasn’t Senator Bernie Sanders defending my constitutional right to make decisions for my child before the school intervened, causing him irreversible damage? If parental rights are the reason to support gender affirming care, then parental rights must also be allowed for those who oppose to it"

This comment is right on point. Sanders is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He made his reputation pandering to idealistic progressives who think socialism will save the world, while occasionally endorsing something that makes him look reasonable, humane, and ready to work across the aisle. Bernie is not defending the constitutional right to make decisions for our own children because it would mark him as having serious doubts about the supposed efficacy of trans medicalization for children. It would mark him as -- heaven forbid -- a right-winger, a MAGA in progressive clothing, a traitor to the biggest virtue-signaling cause of the century. He can't risk that.

paleblue's avatar

Sanders has neither the intellect nor courage to challenge any tenet of the progressive code, much less the Trans Toddlers program.

Mothers Grim's avatar

That sounds unbearable but thanks for reporting on it. Shannon Minter is a women in medical drag who has been part of the legally trans initiatives since the late 1990s. She is an egregious driver of the gender cult. https://margox.substack.com/p/legally-trans

Mama Ain't Playin''s avatar

She's also dumb as a sack of hammers. Go listen to Andrew Sullivan's interview with her last summer or autumn on the Dishcast. Nothing she says makes a lick of sense, but she's pushed out there because a tiny, bearded lady is much less threatening/uncanny than the giant men in frocks and nail polish:

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/shannon-minter-on-trans-life-and

Mothers Grim's avatar

I cannot stand either one of them and have listened to plenty of each. I might require CPR if I had to listen to both together!

Mama Ain't Playin''s avatar

I like Sully. He gets good guests & has a wide-ranging intellect. Most of his interviews are very informative.

EyesOpen's avatar

Absolutely. "If parental rights are the reason to support gender affirming care, then parental rights must also be allowed for those who oppose it."

That is why I wrote this "Code of Parental Rights":

https://eyesopenmom.substack.com/p/code-of-parental-rights