Understandable. And each of us is trying to "get through" in whatever ways might make sense. I'm wondering if we could use "persons" (or people) who identify as trans" in some cases? It is hard to know how to talk about this when you don't want to be colluding with the madness. Words can be so crucial.
Just common sense explains so much. Feminism has done so much to help girls and women, but patriarchy continues and there is yet another expose' of girl athletes being sexually assaulted by male coaches, not to mention the girl wrestler last month who was raped at a tournament while the referee and most of the audience didn't notice. (She had no idea her opponent was male and both wore head gear. He flipped her onto her back, climbed on top of her, and shoved his fingers into her vulva and vagina.)
No mystery about why more girls want to be male when adolescence starts. That's when the sexual harassment intensified. I remember even my kind, caring father, suddenly making inappropriate "jokes" as my body changed to look more adult.
Being a girl is bad enough, but becoming a woman means humiliation and degradation, and threats of rape to actual sexual assault.
Give girls and women actual equal rights and remove all the grotesque pornification of females from the media and see if as many girls want to become their oppressors. (Seeing half naked rich famous women in bizarre high heels in interviews alongside men allowed to be clothed and dignified is a horrific example for confused girls. )
Thank you for this thoughtful essay. It is, indeed, intellectual humility that is necessary in order to come to an understanding of any complex phenomenon. I bring up this point in virtually every class that I teach. It is clear that complex human phenomena are all multi-determined, and singular causes will never be found. In the end it will be a complex interaction of various factors that affect individuals differently. Further, initiating factors may not be those that maintain a particular psychological state. Unfortunately, the politicalization of this issue has interfered in such a way that care of the affected individuals and their families has suffered. Thank you again for your thoughtful essay. Sincerely Frederick Prete
This article has numerous telltale signs of having been written by AI. Given the real, genuine and deeply personal experiences shared in this space, introducing AI content does not serve those who come here - for whatever reason.
I agree. The article smells like bs. All this talk about an issue being “complex”. Teenagers may have confused and uncomfortable feelings, but there is no reason to try and categorize it as a disease that needs drugs or surgery or even affirmation.
Meanwhile the surgeon saws buzz, the liposuction machines suck out breast tissue, nipples are rearranged, robotic DaVinci machines slice and invert penises, studies to engineer genitalia-like and breast -like tissue are underway, babies are born to woman with severed breasts with past history of testosterone use (used to be called abuse), medical schools and higher ed are dragging society into a transhuman future, countless children and young adults are now estranged from families, more than a few are dead by suicide...
Just maybe this is all about medicalizing lies for corporate gains and scientific advances. Maybe this population is the experiment. Maybe the industry is a cult.
The “ROGD” label reminds me of how psychiatry invented the “chemical imbalance” myth to sell people anti-depressants. They convince people there is something broken in them and then put people on the medical money making conveyor belt for the rest of their life.
The ROGD label became popular in Lisa Littman's 2018 research. Our family was shocked at this terminology that was supposed to describe our personal experience. It was very far from what we experienced. We had a perfectly healthy young adult daughter with zero history of 'gender dysphoria' go suddenly 'trans on a college campus. It looked like undue influence, cult capture and gross industry overreach for financial gain from the get go. To psychiatrists though they are not trained to look critically at their chosen profession which has had a growing propensity for decades to label normal behavior as psychiatric conditions in need of treatment. The big fat ugly bible of psychiatry known as the DSM looms large over the public today with more people on psyche meds who'd be better off getting on with their lives.
The diagnosis of 'gender dysphoria' itself is subjective and fraught with a history of changing meanings. How the hell can 'rapid onset' of such a diagnosis be so widely accepted. The answer to that is that the 'experts' are making the claims. I reject it. Our daughter has since rejected 'trans,' rejoined the family, and does not believe in psychiatric labels.
"Prematurely rejecting the hypothesis ... prematurely accepting it ... Both outcomes would be mistakes."
First. Ironic word choice "pre-mature." Like, 'before puberty'? Like 'not adult'? And if experts want caution before publishing words about ROGD, can we expect caution about wielding scalpels?
Second. "mistakes" COMPARED TO WHAT? Compared to some ideal scientific process that never causes harm? Compared to cutting off body parts? Perverse Frankensteins are currently cutting into troubled kids.
I think this kind of bureaucratic detachment has contributed to the problem. Respectable, modulated experts got us here.
All sounds as a perfect explanation what in the past we call madness. Now we can describe it more articulately but the fact remains the same. Transgenderism is very complex because it’s at the core of human existence and the rejection of reality and the destruction of Eros in the most extreme forms as vaginaplasty that how the most people know by now this surgery is not only painful but limited or annulled any intercourse or enjoyment of any normal interaction between humans. In the other hand we know for a fact that children in a natural environment never think in terms of sexual identity, we all have been children and that strong identification with our sex comes later when we start to develop physical characteristics of our own sex as breast or hair, etc. Children who talk about that as a possibility had been “ groomed” for exterior sources. In the west mainly and not in all countries and in the cities more than the country side or more isolate areas. So i would differentiate children and put them in a very different category, teen agers are the most at risk because they are going through a lot of changes in their bodies in an insane world. Adult transgenderism is plain disphory, a mental condition if we know one and they are “ mature” and have the “ freedom” to dress the opposite sex or go through all physical changing surgeries to then discover that the opposite sex also has challenges being one of the most common regrets. The problem of their identity subsists but now they are attached to a life of hormones and drugs and all ills that come from forcing our nature to behave contrary to it is. Transgenderism wouldn’t exist if they treated as they should- make people accept reality as what it is and learn to live with it. We need more specialists therapists because society is di serving these people pushing them to a life of misery. Humans are binary!
I am. There may be a psychological/mass hysteria component, but SSRI usage is the underlying cause.
If they had dismissed SSRI and given a reason, I'd listen. On occasion I have been wrong. But not mentioning it at all means the article is not worth my consideration.
There's plenty of stuff that SSRIs cause (mass shooters IMO) but my opinion is it's not a causative factor but rather am associated factor. Kids aren't just put on SSRIs for No Reason Whatsoever; there's an underlying mental health problem and the parents are concerned enough to seek treatment for it.
If physical words like "man" and "woman" can not be easily defined and understood by the mass culture, then idea words like "objective" are subjective too.
I identify as objective. Who are you to deny my lived experience.
I appreciate the rationality of this article.
Get rid of social media and take them out of the brainwashing schools, and bingo, all new cases will disappear.
Ah, but they are transitioned for no reason. Why not prescribe drugs for no reason?
"natal females"? excuse me, but is there another kind?
Let's not fall for the jargon when we are discussing women and girls.
Fair! I wrote it for open minded unsure readers, so used this term even though it is a bit redundant.
Understandable. And each of us is trying to "get through" in whatever ways might make sense. I'm wondering if we could use "persons" (or people) who identify as trans" in some cases? It is hard to know how to talk about this when you don't want to be colluding with the madness. Words can be so crucial.
Just common sense explains so much. Feminism has done so much to help girls and women, but patriarchy continues and there is yet another expose' of girl athletes being sexually assaulted by male coaches, not to mention the girl wrestler last month who was raped at a tournament while the referee and most of the audience didn't notice. (She had no idea her opponent was male and both wore head gear. He flipped her onto her back, climbed on top of her, and shoved his fingers into her vulva and vagina.)
No mystery about why more girls want to be male when adolescence starts. That's when the sexual harassment intensified. I remember even my kind, caring father, suddenly making inappropriate "jokes" as my body changed to look more adult.
Being a girl is bad enough, but becoming a woman means humiliation and degradation, and threats of rape to actual sexual assault.
Give girls and women actual equal rights and remove all the grotesque pornification of females from the media and see if as many girls want to become their oppressors. (Seeing half naked rich famous women in bizarre high heels in interviews alongside men allowed to be clothed and dignified is a horrific example for confused girls. )
Thank you for this thoughtful essay. It is, indeed, intellectual humility that is necessary in order to come to an understanding of any complex phenomenon. I bring up this point in virtually every class that I teach. It is clear that complex human phenomena are all multi-determined, and singular causes will never be found. In the end it will be a complex interaction of various factors that affect individuals differently. Further, initiating factors may not be those that maintain a particular psychological state. Unfortunately, the politicalization of this issue has interfered in such a way that care of the affected individuals and their families has suffered. Thank you again for your thoughtful essay. Sincerely Frederick Prete
This article has numerous telltale signs of having been written by AI. Given the real, genuine and deeply personal experiences shared in this space, introducing AI content does not serve those who come here - for whatever reason.
I agree. The article smells like bs. All this talk about an issue being “complex”. Teenagers may have confused and uncomfortable feelings, but there is no reason to try and categorize it as a disease that needs drugs or surgery or even affirmation.
Meanwhile the surgeon saws buzz, the liposuction machines suck out breast tissue, nipples are rearranged, robotic DaVinci machines slice and invert penises, studies to engineer genitalia-like and breast -like tissue are underway, babies are born to woman with severed breasts with past history of testosterone use (used to be called abuse), medical schools and higher ed are dragging society into a transhuman future, countless children and young adults are now estranged from families, more than a few are dead by suicide...
Just maybe this is all about medicalizing lies for corporate gains and scientific advances. Maybe this population is the experiment. Maybe the industry is a cult.
The “ROGD” label reminds me of how psychiatry invented the “chemical imbalance” myth to sell people anti-depressants. They convince people there is something broken in them and then put people on the medical money making conveyor belt for the rest of their life.
Yep. Labels, labels, labels.
The ROGD label became popular in Lisa Littman's 2018 research. Our family was shocked at this terminology that was supposed to describe our personal experience. It was very far from what we experienced. We had a perfectly healthy young adult daughter with zero history of 'gender dysphoria' go suddenly 'trans on a college campus. It looked like undue influence, cult capture and gross industry overreach for financial gain from the get go. To psychiatrists though they are not trained to look critically at their chosen profession which has had a growing propensity for decades to label normal behavior as psychiatric conditions in need of treatment. The big fat ugly bible of psychiatry known as the DSM looms large over the public today with more people on psyche meds who'd be better off getting on with their lives.
The diagnosis of 'gender dysphoria' itself is subjective and fraught with a history of changing meanings. How the hell can 'rapid onset' of such a diagnosis be so widely accepted. The answer to that is that the 'experts' are making the claims. I reject it. Our daughter has since rejected 'trans,' rejoined the family, and does not believe in psychiatric labels.
In the first paragraph, the writer refers to 'natal' females. Surely ALL females are natally so; the adjective is unnecessary...
Um. Do you hear yourself?
"Prematurely rejecting the hypothesis ... prematurely accepting it ... Both outcomes would be mistakes."
First. Ironic word choice "pre-mature." Like, 'before puberty'? Like 'not adult'? And if experts want caution before publishing words about ROGD, can we expect caution about wielding scalpels?
Second. "mistakes" COMPARED TO WHAT? Compared to some ideal scientific process that never causes harm? Compared to cutting off body parts? Perverse Frankensteins are currently cutting into troubled kids.
I think this kind of bureaucratic detachment has contributed to the problem. Respectable, modulated experts got us here.
Thank you for pointing out the bs. I did not want to be the only one thinking this article was gaslighting
While I appreciate using a scientific approach, I feel the research should have started 10 years ago
All sounds as a perfect explanation what in the past we call madness. Now we can describe it more articulately but the fact remains the same. Transgenderism is very complex because it’s at the core of human existence and the rejection of reality and the destruction of Eros in the most extreme forms as vaginaplasty that how the most people know by now this surgery is not only painful but limited or annulled any intercourse or enjoyment of any normal interaction between humans. In the other hand we know for a fact that children in a natural environment never think in terms of sexual identity, we all have been children and that strong identification with our sex comes later when we start to develop physical characteristics of our own sex as breast or hair, etc. Children who talk about that as a possibility had been “ groomed” for exterior sources. In the west mainly and not in all countries and in the cities more than the country side or more isolate areas. So i would differentiate children and put them in a very different category, teen agers are the most at risk because they are going through a lot of changes in their bodies in an insane world. Adult transgenderism is plain disphory, a mental condition if we know one and they are “ mature” and have the “ freedom” to dress the opposite sex or go through all physical changing surgeries to then discover that the opposite sex also has challenges being one of the most common regrets. The problem of their identity subsists but now they are attached to a life of hormones and drugs and all ills that come from forcing our nature to behave contrary to it is. Transgenderism wouldn’t exist if they treated as they should- make people accept reality as what it is and learn to live with it. We need more specialists therapists because society is di serving these people pushing them to a life of misery. Humans are binary!
Control-F SSRI
Nothing found. No need to read further. They're digging in the wrong area.
Hmmm you sound less than objective.
I am. There may be a psychological/mass hysteria component, but SSRI usage is the underlying cause.
If they had dismissed SSRI and given a reason, I'd listen. On occasion I have been wrong. But not mentioning it at all means the article is not worth my consideration.
There's plenty of stuff that SSRIs cause (mass shooters IMO) but my opinion is it's not a causative factor but rather am associated factor. Kids aren't just put on SSRIs for No Reason Whatsoever; there's an underlying mental health problem and the parents are concerned enough to seek treatment for it.
Correct.
If physical words like "man" and "woman" can not be easily defined and understood by the mass culture, then idea words like "objective" are subjective too.
I identify as objective. Who are you to deny my lived experience.