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Peppercape's avatar

Going on 4 years, I still cry every single day that this pergatory nightmare continues. The nightmare that my once beautiful sweet very close daughter turned into a cult following, drug addicted, hateful Frankenstein overnight at age 23. There is no doubt in my mind that she will regret her choices but it will be much too late for her body, family or real friends. She's in trans world Sacramento so little chance she will come to her senses anytime soon. We have moved on painfully removing her from documents and wills. Though I would love for her to see the light sooner than later, the honest painful truth is, I'll never trust her again.

Lynnette's avatar

I do not and will never accept this. I love my son with my whole heart. We are 6 months in, though I just found out a week ago. I am holding onto hope I can get him help to fix the underlying issue of severe depression and trauma. I’m holding onto hope I can help him find a social network of people in real life. I hope my hope isn’t short sided because I’m desperate to save him before he gets even further into destroying his body and his life.

anpanman2's avatar

I think keeping the bond with your son alive is the most important now. If he desists it will be when he comes to the conclusion by himself, trying to convince him of the harm may only push him away. My strategy with the interaction with my daughter now is to focus on anything but trans. We are still talking, about life. Stephanie Winn helped me reach that conclusion. She evolved by working with parents. We are in for the long run. It may take years and society is not on our side. But truth is.

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Jun 9Edited

I have been in this nightmare for about 9 years with my daughter. I’ve let go of any hope I had, giving she is on hormones and had a double mastectomy. I am just concentrating on preserving my relationship with her. I’m still grieving, and the pain is something I carry with me every day.

EyesOpen's avatar

Thank you for sharing. I feel very, very tired. The daily nightmare seems to have no end. I carry on with my life and find daily moments that I enjoy. The sorrow lingers around the edges.

I have the capacity to be happy for other families that were not affected by the harms of gender ideology and all of the offshoots of it that also cause damage. I also am glad for families where desistance or detransition have occurred. And some may never experience those course corrections. I hope for them to find a way to continue. This topic will have lasting consequences for so many. The lucky families have somehow escaped it.

There is still life to be lived even for those families who were affected. I sometimes wonder if the sadness will ever go away. I suspect not. We just find ways to carry it and keep living as best we can.

Helen Edwards's avatar

Thank you for this wonderfully written piece. I'm so sorry about what you're going through. I am not a parent. I work in mental health services in the NHS in England and have a daily, mostly silently-conducted battle with the organization which is utterly ideologically captured.

Occasionally I have spoken out in meetings about the harms of gender identity ideology. Some colleagues have reacted in a hostile way, most jus remain silent. There's lots of fear about free speech on the issue. I am angry about this appalling lie every day, won't stop until it does.

Diane Palermo's avatar

You have written my thoughts down to a tee. Thank you. However painful to completely understand and identify with your words, I know I am not alone and that brings comfort at some level. I can’t wish or pray this away. These are the choices 3 of my adult kids have made. My family has forever been altered and now I must adjust accordingly. But I know I am not alone. Thank you.

Katherine Wilson's avatar

I went through several years, stressed and sad and depressed about the direction my daughter is taking. It definitely affected my relationships with my other children and my husband.

I'm coming to realize that this has only damaged the whole family. It hasn't changed her direction.

I'm coming to accept that she will have to make her own choices and decisions, and she will have to live with the consequences.

I can only decide how I behave and react. I refuse to enable, I refuse to affirm.

Other than that, the rest has to be up to her.

Sand Piper's avatar

My new description: I live between acceptance and hope. Acceptance is too painful- we are all living through a moment of madness in human history. Hope is too painful- I have been crushed too many times. I live my life. I love my child. I do not go beyond the present.

anpanman2's avatar

14 months, 10 months on testosterone. As a mom, I tried everything I could imagine. Watched hundreds of interviews, speeches at conferences, red a dozen books, watched the influencers my daughter recommended, talked to many doctors, to the gender clinics, took an online ”course” for gender critical parents of trans kids, red many scientific papers, the WPATH files. The only thing that worked so far is talking to my daughter (22 years old, Asperger, still living with me) on other issues than trans, working on those, and showing curiosity (not affirmation). In our case the main source of trans influence comes from Reddit, that is where the grooming happens. And of course, in my country (Belgium) affirmation is everywhere. Providing correct information is impossible: ”if you talk to me like that I can never talk to you again”. I’m patient, look for traces of awareness, slip in some remarks here and there during our conversations about life in general. After all the insight can only come from herself. She’s smart and always sees through the bullshit, except in this case. I consider myself a mother of an alcoholic in a society that celebrates the cultures of beer, wine and whiskey. It’s very lonely and painful but I don’t care about that, all I care about is my daughter’s mental and physical health. ”Keep shining” says her queer boyfriend. I couldn’t agree more, but I’m very worried.

Mourning_Mom's avatar

I was where you are three years ago. Every family’s experience is different, and I truly hope yours takes a more positive turn than ours did. But for us, things became much harder before they became even remotely manageable.

During my son’s junior year, I took a two-month sabbatical from work to immerse myself in learning about this issue. I spoke with affirming parents, met parents through PITT and ROGD Boys, worked with parent coaches, and tried very hard to strengthen our emotional bond and improve my own communication skills.

Between junior and senior year, my son developed anorexia because he feared his body changing further with testosterone. Shortly after turning 18, he went to Planned Parenthood and began estrogen and spironolactone after earlier attempts that we had intervened in. He is now 20 and still on these medications.

There are moments when the reality of what he is doing to himself feels so overwhelming that I have to mentally turn away just to survive. Sometimes I find myself crying alone in the car or on the subway, grieving a future I thought he would have and terrified about where this path may lead.

One thing I came to believe over time is that I should never have outsourced the core relationship with my child to therapists. Some support was helpful, especially the parent coaching, but several therapists ultimately damaged both him and our relationship. One in particular essentially normalized his withdrawal from school and work by framing avoidance as understandable because he did not want to face a world that saw him as trans rather than as a cis girl.

He completed only one semester of college. He isolated almost entirely in his dorm room, failed most of his classes, and dropped to a dangerously low weight. We required inpatient eating disorder treatment before we would support a return to school. He cycled through four programs with limited engagement and eventually returned home still unready for college.

When he did not return to school last fall, we decided that isolating at home on devices all day could no longer continue. We removed access to his smartphone and computer and replaced them with a limited phone that allowed only basic communication and navigation. No Discord, Reddit, Instagram, Twitter, Geometry Dash, or internet browser.

Our position was simple: if he wanted those things, he needed to earn them through work and participation in real life. While job searching, he could volunteer and we would pay him. The point was not punishment. It was to create structure and require meaningful time spent engaged with the real world instead of disappearing further into online spaces. We’ve had only modest success, but I still believe real-life interaction is one of the few things that can interrupt this cycle of isolation and distorted thinking.

I’ve also learned that peers often have far more influence than parents. Recently, one of his friends told him he needed to get over his anxiety and get back to school. That single comment had more impact than months of conversations with us and led him to finally ask for help returning.

My husband and I have very different parenting instincts, and honestly I think inconsistency between us has been one of our son’s biggest disadvantages. I now spend much of my energy trying to keep us aligned. Constant rescuing, hand-holding, and easy access to money can unintentionally keep kids stuck. Our role now is to do whatever we can to help him become unstuck.

I also have a daughter finishing her junior year of high school, and she has absolutely been collateral damage through all of this. One thing I’ve become deeply committed to is giving her as normal a childhood as I possibly can despite the chaos surrounding our family. I drive her to every sports practice and tournament, rarely miss a game or school event, and try to protect space in our lives that still feels ordinary and healthy.

And honestly, when I deal with her teenage rebellion in the form of eye rolls, surliness, or attitude, I sometimes find myself oddly grateful for the normalcy of it. It reminds me that not every struggle has to feel existential.

At this point, all we really can do is continue strengthening our relationship with him, maintain boundaries, use our financial and practical leverage thoughtfully, and hope that life, maturity, meaningful relationships, and enough real-world experiences eventually help him find a healthier path.

GenderRealistMom's avatar

Thank you for sharing. So heart-breaking. I hope your lovely daughter wakes up soon enough. My daughter desisted but years later she is still fully enmeshed in the whole lgbt culture and pretty much her entire social circle is some flavor of LGBTQ. So although I am immensely grateful and happy that she desisted, I cannot relax and I cannot be "over it". I pray daily that she opens her eyes and sees that this ideology is hurting the very people she thinks she is supporting.

Gay J's avatar

I empathise with you and think you are brave; at least you still have relationship with your daughter. I don't have one with my son and I don't know how I would cope if he was living in my house. I did try before he cut off contact. I did my best to remember his new name, tried to be kind and understanding. But trying to ignore the elephant in the room is very difficult and I probably didn't measure up, because four years ago he cut off all contact. Can't imagine how it is for you, watching the changes T makes in your child, fearing the future for her.

Mom First's avatar

I don’t accept it. I completely forgive my child and all the other children. NONE of it is their fault that they have been lied to. And after that realization my approach and our relationship completely changed. Progress is being made, finally. After 4 years in I am thankful to have gone through some of this because I would not have learned what I did about those that suffer and fall for the trans lie. I would not have begun to heal myself. It was hell but I see the light. I have hope.

Adri Mans's avatar

I started to pay attention because the first love, HS sweetheart of my older son: Eleine started to show symptoms of confusion around the time my son left for College and she started at a Community College. I was a "virgin" regarding this topic. That brought a lot of bad things within the family. My son was also confused, he supported first because that is what society demands but he started to have reckless behavior, and a long story that last ten years and we are recovering from. My town has 28 thousands people and we moved here from the big City San Francisco to "protect" our children better from all the non-sense, we should have moved out from the state and maybe the country, but we didn't know how dangerous is out there. We are fortunate that none of our sons were affected it for this "virus" of unconformity with reality. But I know and had personal relationship with five of my kids' friends and recently I found out that Benjamin, the son of former friends (they are liberals and they don't tolerate people who think differently) also is pretending to be a woman. Melissa is now Mel, Elaine is now Len, Nikki is now Nic, Michael is now Misha. You can see that are more women than men in my town, I do not know about the stats generally speaking. And that is why I had invested a serious amount of time studying this phenomena because everything s connected it. We are not preparing our children (and mine are adults and only one single) for the world that it is, that IS a different world, we have to warn them about how many insane people there are out there, how mental is SM, how confused is everything but we must give them the tools to navigate and explain to them that feeling confused is normal, that growing up is hard specially when you see your body change and the pressure of society through SM about what is nice and pretty and good but it is not. Teach them to develop their uniqueness, to be different is normal and nothing is wrong with them, they don't need to change anything but develop what they already have and are.

thanks God we are in a different stage, doctors are speaking up, parents are speaking up, we have more information of all the aspects of transgenderism. I support everybody who is against transgenderism and I am very vocal with the issue and trying to unmasked the lies that go with it. I wrote the names because I already called them out in their errs and they don't hide so you see that they are real people, in this case all defended their choices to death. They sustained that is nothing wrong with them, the problem is us because truth is a relative term that synthesis to the mantra_my truth and your truth_ and both are all right. Everything is all right as far another mantra _you are happy_. But who is really happy? Money, money and more money.

Susan Doherty's avatar

I have been lucky ,so far ,in that this horrific experiment has not had any impact on my life or the lives of anyone in my family. However ,as a 79 year old mother ,grandmother and great grandmother ,I worry that it could in the future as i have many great grandchildren ( pre school , primary school and secondary school ) and i have no idea what they're "learning". (I live in Scotland).I have never stopped feeling angry about this child destroying "ideology " ( aka predators rights movement) and I do what I can to fight it. I pray for every single one of you whose children have been captured by this cult ,and i long for the day when its proponents face Justice. God Bless you all.🙏🙏🙏

paleblue's avatar

I just wonder whether these children...perhaps subconsciously...want their parents to save them. Which implies that they are dissociated, and that the old identity is still there, but a prisoner of a new false identity created and fostered by the transgender cult. Should parents in your situation speak to, or even view, their child as a whole? Or should they focus solely on what they can see and sense of the old identity and attempt to lead it to the light? Back to God. Back to the beauty of their own bodies and the natural world.

My son was able to dodge the trans train (reading "The Transgender Industrial Complex" helped), but my interest in this will not wane. I'm appalled at how the parents who have suffered this fate have been treated by the medical and educational institutions (which have been captured and have actively facilitated transition), their own friends, and society at large. The whole thing is diabolical.

Mama Ain't Playin''s avatar

For the younger teens you may be correct. It's a kind of searching out for and testing of boundaries.

For many in their 20s I suspect the opposite: trans-identification is not a cry for rescue, but rather a kind of delayed adolescent rebellion against the parents. It may be a normal developmental stage that was initially thwarted by autism or other mental or physical health crises or a sexual assault. I notice that it's usually very lefty, liberal parents who are totally fine with homosexuality who have trans-ID'd kids. It's like the kids are taunting their parents: "you say you're fine with me being GAY? Ok then, I'm TRANS, take that, mom and dad!"

In a teenager, it's much more manageable. It's frankly terrifying when they're out of the home/of the age of majority, and are fully empowered to medicalize. The awful thing is that so many of these young people are developmentally challenged and therefore oblivious to the threat from predators who will insinuate themselves through online channels and induce them to further self-harm. They think these people are their friends! Some of these predators will seek them out IRL as well.

paleblue's avatar

Before reading PITT, I always assumed that the children of progressive parents were much more susceptible to the trans cult. Maybe that is indeed the case, and PITT represents a cross-section because progressive parents are still in such denial that they don't even seek out a supportive community. What do you think, Mama Ain't Playin'?

AaDaMa3's avatar

I was tracking with you until you said it's usually kids from lefty, liberal families who do this. Not here. Raised in a conservative Christian home, homeschooled, active in youth group and church. Met a dude acting as a chick online at the age of 26. All downhill from there

Mama Ain't Playin''s avatar

It’s so hard to say. Trans has gone worldwide and feral because of the internet and its many very weird fandoms, all of which are infested with pedophiles or groomers pushing kids this way. I know of both conservative Christian families and lefty-liberal families whose kids are trans-ID’d, but many more of the latter. I just know more of the latter kinds of families in general.

So many of us at PITT come here because our communities are so trans friendly that a lot of us don’t have many people to talk to about our fears and doubts. For the younger teens who ID as trans, I’d say they tend to be more from the lefty families, as the kids are pretty confident their families will be affirming/accepting.