When God sent Philip to the Ethiopian to speak the truth he listened and God message was sent. You are the Philip in her young life trying to show the truth. I’ve prayed and prays for God to send a Philip to reason with my trans so who has dismissed me again and no contact. They just won’t listen to parents … it needs to be an outsider someone who cares. You certainly showed the girl you cared and you were concerned and you were a stranger. Perhaps it got thru to her just a little bit and she will re think what she is doing. You did an admirable thing. I hope and pray she feels it as an opening to truth. So many of your young people are going this way. I heard it’s gone from 2% up to 30% waning towards this sick cult lifestyle. Speaking the truth in love is never wrong. Thank you !
Thank you for confronting her. Too many doctors are cowards and don't care about life anymore. They do what they're told, don't think much about it, and collect money. That's pure evil to me. Many of them know this is wrong based on their basic educational courses but they do this to young people anyway. My daughter hates me for telling her the truth. No one else will. It's a nightmare I live every single day, so I appreciate women like you who have the courage to tell the truth.
I will never understand this. What possesses a young woman who is clearly quite feminine and apparently functional since she's working in a public setting to see someone like the 6-2 dude in the dress and stilettos and say, "yeah, I want to become like that." I just don't get it.
I look back on that paragraph and realize I may have answered my own question: "What possesses a young woman..." What does "possess" her? Maybe that's the right word to use.
For those parents who have been dumped by their kids Does anyone ever feel like the right thing to do is to actually block them? And say ‘ I’ll unblock you when you’re ready to apologize?’ I want to do this so badly. My husband tells me ‘be the grown up’
I get it. I have ‘lost’ two also. Mostly because I do not believe sex is a spectrum or use preferred pronouns. And it’s not as if we’ve had screaming rows about it, they just know we don’t agree. Their tolerance is so low & they are so disappointed that we parents who should love unconditionally just can’t do it. It’s that moral superiority that really gets me. Estrangement per se is becoming so common, not just for the trans reason. It’s so sad that when I think of my kids I just feel pain, when I used to feel joy. What a world.
I understand where you are coming from. I waffle between removing my son's phone numbers and occasionally texting them. I have one in the cult and an ally that have both estranged. I have no idea what I did that caused the other one too, other than I won't use the name and ask, "why would I use the name when I haven't even spoken to him about it?". We have to remember our kids are in a cult. Unfortunately, this is a cult that is supported by medicine, govt.'s & society. Not only are we angry, but incredibly heartbroken. We have a grief that is hard to manage. Peace and strength to you.
This was a pleasure to read, and you cared enough to take a risk.
I am so disturbed that "HRT" is used any time in trans medicine. HRT is replacement estrogen therapy for post menopausal WOMEN. Puberty blockers - relatively safe in a very small population of of children with specific circumstance - i.e. HGH deficiency. They are used for a specific reason to delay puberty and then revert to your natural hormones.
It's insane when the uneducated think HRT + PB have a long history of safety and efficacy - no they don't! They were never evaluated to try to "switch" sex which we all know is impossible. The only officially approved uses have nothing to do with changing sex. I have post-menopausal friends whose MDs won't give them HRT, but hey, lets give it to children!
That one bothers me alot as well, Catherine. HRT stands for Hormone Replacement Therapy which is giving a woman synthetic estrogen when she ages and her body is no longer making all the estrogen it did when young- as an attempt to stay young. As you point out, synthetic estrogen is not handed out to all menopausal women any longer because of the risk of stroke.
So, now phama needs this new market & pushes it on confused young people (take the opposite ones young men and women)! It will be great! They do that to our naive daughters.
These synthetic hormones have always been a drug looking for a market.
Pumping someone full of opposite sex hormones should not even be called HRT. I think it is one more example of sanitizing the "sex change" industry and making it sound like it is some form of "health care".
I like the way you made sure to approach her alone and respectfully and with an attitude of caring and kindness. I also think the fact that she brought it up loudly and publicly (talking about T in a voice meant to be overheard helped create an environment where you could respond. She wasn't minding her own business, but making a public statement, and I admire the way you went about saying something in a way that wasn't meant to make her defensive, but just, as you say, create a pebble in a shoe and a crack.
I want to go up to trans males I see thrifting women's clothes and say, "Your mom really misses you." I wonder what percentage of them have cut off contact with their parents? Most?
I’m afraid you underestimate how stubborn youngsters are, and how convinced of their own invincibility. Add to that the social media echo chamber, and it’s a fairly lost cause. I tried to have this conversation with a young trans person, but I think it all fell on deaf ears. He told me he was aware of the side effects, and went ahead with the hormones.
What is needed to move the needle is trans youth to come out in droves on TikTok talking about the negative health outcomes they’ve experienced from hormones and surgery.
Those will hopefully stop the surgeons from wanting to be in this game. But the hormone taking, that will only be stopped by kids telling kids hard cold truths. For example, that male pattern baldness looks really bad on a 20 year old girl. Or that “bottom growth” is not a small penis, but an enlarged clitoris that rubs so painfully on clothing that you can’t wear tight jeans anymore.
When I worked with abused children at a Battered Women's Shelter in the 1990s, our weekly staff meetings constantly revolved around this question: Is our work making any difference?
The women in our shelter had multiple mental health issues, often addictions, emotional pain so great that any companionship--even from a man they knew would beat them up--was better than no companionship at all. Many of them stayed with us just long enough to get over the shock of being beaten up, then went straight back to the batterers.
And the children had to survive the battering along with them.
Our burnout rate was enormous. Volunteers cycled in and out of our shelter almost as fast as the battered women. Those of us who stayed (I was there for two years) had to find a way to somehow make sense of it all, in order to continue to do our work.
So we relied on the Butterfly Effect: we reassured each other every week that everything we did had a small effect on everyone at the shelter, and that effect had a small effect on everyone around them, and that effect did too, continuing indefinitely out into the world.
We couldn't save those children. Their parents had control over their lives, and their fathers either abandoned them, beat their mothers up in front of them, or abused the children themselves.
But we could show them a normal, respectful way for people to interact. We could show them how healthy adults treat children with kindness, care, playfulness, and knowledgeable compassion when they disclosed their dark secrets. For just a few weeks out of their chaotic lives, those children knew what it was to feel safe.
That's all we could do. The Butterfly Effect.
And it's all we can do with the Trans Moral Panic too.
Show people a normal, respectful way for people to question authority. One of the most pernicious aspects of this is that these rebellious young people are being brainwashed OUT of questioning the authority of the transgenderist lobby.
Show people how we can disagree with calmness and compassion. They won't learn that from the "Kill TERFs" haters of the transgenderist lobby.
Show people that there is no cause that cannot be questioned--our ability to question our behavior and cultures is what makes us human. They won't learn that from the "no debate" groomers of the transgenderist lobby.
And it works.
I'll leave you with this story from my days with the abused children:
One day a year or two after I quit work at the shelter, I opened my front door to a young girl selling Girl Scout Cookies.
She had once been one of our shelter children!
We were absolutely stunned and overjoyed to see each other.
She had a particularly dark history. She and her family had been sent to our shelter hundreds of miles from Los Angeles because her father was so dangerous. Her mother was a drug addict who "whupped" her children. Her youngest sibling had been born a meth baby. All of us at the shelter had been especially fond of her and her siblings, almost entirely due to her charming, witty, engaging personality. And here she was on my doorstep!
I let her in and had her call her mother to tell her where she was. Then she told me her story: her parents were reconciled and living in our town, they were clean and sober, and they didn't "whup" their children anymore because, her mother said, it didn't do any good. I asked casually how things were with her father, and she said fine, except when he did things she didn't like. My heart sank.
"Like what?" I asked gently.
She said, "Like, he won't let me go places without checking with my mother first."
What a difficult job, thankful that there are people in the world that do what you do. Horrible irony though…when you think about us parents in this group. Reverse abuse, being dumped, blocked, verbally abused by your own kids for questioning & caring about the decision they are making.
Doing the right thing isn't always easy. We must always see others as somebody's daughter, mother, brother, etc.. I always pray that the Lord will send someone to talk to my daughter who joined the alphabet cult, maybe this mom was answering someone else's prayer.
When God sent Philip to the Ethiopian to speak the truth he listened and God message was sent. You are the Philip in her young life trying to show the truth. I’ve prayed and prays for God to send a Philip to reason with my trans so who has dismissed me again and no contact. They just won’t listen to parents … it needs to be an outsider someone who cares. You certainly showed the girl you cared and you were concerned and you were a stranger. Perhaps it got thru to her just a little bit and she will re think what she is doing. You did an admirable thing. I hope and pray she feels it as an opening to truth. So many of your young people are going this way. I heard it’s gone from 2% up to 30% waning towards this sick cult lifestyle. Speaking the truth in love is never wrong. Thank you !
I think you were very brave, and did her a favor.
Thank you for confronting her. Too many doctors are cowards and don't care about life anymore. They do what they're told, don't think much about it, and collect money. That's pure evil to me. Many of them know this is wrong based on their basic educational courses but they do this to young people anyway. My daughter hates me for telling her the truth. No one else will. It's a nightmare I live every single day, so I appreciate women like you who have the courage to tell the truth.
Well said, good mama. - LM
Strong men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft men make bad times. Bad times make strong men. That's where we are.
I will never understand this. What possesses a young woman who is clearly quite feminine and apparently functional since she's working in a public setting to see someone like the 6-2 dude in the dress and stilettos and say, "yeah, I want to become like that." I just don't get it.
I look back on that paragraph and realize I may have answered my own question: "What possesses a young woman..." What does "possess" her? Maybe that's the right word to use.
For those parents who have been dumped by their kids Does anyone ever feel like the right thing to do is to actually block them? And say ‘ I’ll unblock you when you’re ready to apologize?’ I want to do this so badly. My husband tells me ‘be the grown up’
I get it. I have ‘lost’ two also. Mostly because I do not believe sex is a spectrum or use preferred pronouns. And it’s not as if we’ve had screaming rows about it, they just know we don’t agree. Their tolerance is so low & they are so disappointed that we parents who should love unconditionally just can’t do it. It’s that moral superiority that really gets me. Estrangement per se is becoming so common, not just for the trans reason. It’s so sad that when I think of my kids I just feel pain, when I used to feel joy. What a world.
You do love unconditionally.
But this crazy world confuses love with being willing to lie, refuse reality, and accept the unacceptable.
Thanks…everything is so messed up
I understand where you are coming from. I waffle between removing my son's phone numbers and occasionally texting them. I have one in the cult and an ally that have both estranged. I have no idea what I did that caused the other one too, other than I won't use the name and ask, "why would I use the name when I haven't even spoken to him about it?". We have to remember our kids are in a cult. Unfortunately, this is a cult that is supported by medicine, govt.'s & society. Not only are we angry, but incredibly heartbroken. We have a grief that is hard to manage. Peace and strength to you.
This was a pleasure to read, and you cared enough to take a risk.
I am so disturbed that "HRT" is used any time in trans medicine. HRT is replacement estrogen therapy for post menopausal WOMEN. Puberty blockers - relatively safe in a very small population of of children with specific circumstance - i.e. HGH deficiency. They are used for a specific reason to delay puberty and then revert to your natural hormones.
It's insane when the uneducated think HRT + PB have a long history of safety and efficacy - no they don't! They were never evaluated to try to "switch" sex which we all know is impossible. The only officially approved uses have nothing to do with changing sex. I have post-menopausal friends whose MDs won't give them HRT, but hey, lets give it to children!
That one bothers me alot as well, Catherine. HRT stands for Hormone Replacement Therapy which is giving a woman synthetic estrogen when she ages and her body is no longer making all the estrogen it did when young- as an attempt to stay young. As you point out, synthetic estrogen is not handed out to all menopausal women any longer because of the risk of stroke.
So, now phama needs this new market & pushes it on confused young people (take the opposite ones young men and women)! It will be great! They do that to our naive daughters.
These synthetic hormones have always been a drug looking for a market.
Pumping someone full of opposite sex hormones should not even be called HRT. I think it is one more example of sanitizing the "sex change" industry and making it sound like it is some form of "health care".
Good for you. We need to care more than fear. You are an excellent example for us.
I like the way you made sure to approach her alone and respectfully and with an attitude of caring and kindness. I also think the fact that she brought it up loudly and publicly (talking about T in a voice meant to be overheard helped create an environment where you could respond. She wasn't minding her own business, but making a public statement, and I admire the way you went about saying something in a way that wasn't meant to make her defensive, but just, as you say, create a pebble in a shoe and a crack.
her caring and gentle approach has far greater likelihood of making that young woman potentially rethink her position than any other approach would.
I applaud you. You never know what will spark a doubt.
Never stop. I hope you see my daughter someday 🙏
I want to go up to trans males I see thrifting women's clothes and say, "Your mom really misses you." I wonder what percentage of them have cut off contact with their parents? Most?
I would love to know that figure too. Just today, I saw someone ask out on X how many are estranged.
Mine has 😭
My heart aches for you.
I’m afraid you underestimate how stubborn youngsters are, and how convinced of their own invincibility. Add to that the social media echo chamber, and it’s a fairly lost cause. I tried to have this conversation with a young trans person, but I think it all fell on deaf ears. He told me he was aware of the side effects, and went ahead with the hormones.
What is needed to move the needle is trans youth to come out in droves on TikTok talking about the negative health outcomes they’ve experienced from hormones and surgery.
Widely publicized winning lawsuits brought about by Detransitioners and parents would be better.
Those will hopefully stop the surgeons from wanting to be in this game. But the hormone taking, that will only be stopped by kids telling kids hard cold truths. For example, that male pattern baldness looks really bad on a 20 year old girl. Or that “bottom growth” is not a small penis, but an enlarged clitoris that rubs so painfully on clothing that you can’t wear tight jeans anymore.
That doesn't even seem to work when Detransitioners tell them.
I always think of it as the Butterfly Effect.
When I worked with abused children at a Battered Women's Shelter in the 1990s, our weekly staff meetings constantly revolved around this question: Is our work making any difference?
The women in our shelter had multiple mental health issues, often addictions, emotional pain so great that any companionship--even from a man they knew would beat them up--was better than no companionship at all. Many of them stayed with us just long enough to get over the shock of being beaten up, then went straight back to the batterers.
And the children had to survive the battering along with them.
Our burnout rate was enormous. Volunteers cycled in and out of our shelter almost as fast as the battered women. Those of us who stayed (I was there for two years) had to find a way to somehow make sense of it all, in order to continue to do our work.
So we relied on the Butterfly Effect: we reassured each other every week that everything we did had a small effect on everyone at the shelter, and that effect had a small effect on everyone around them, and that effect did too, continuing indefinitely out into the world.
We couldn't save those children. Their parents had control over their lives, and their fathers either abandoned them, beat their mothers up in front of them, or abused the children themselves.
But we could show them a normal, respectful way for people to interact. We could show them how healthy adults treat children with kindness, care, playfulness, and knowledgeable compassion when they disclosed their dark secrets. For just a few weeks out of their chaotic lives, those children knew what it was to feel safe.
That's all we could do. The Butterfly Effect.
And it's all we can do with the Trans Moral Panic too.
Show people a normal, respectful way for people to question authority. One of the most pernicious aspects of this is that these rebellious young people are being brainwashed OUT of questioning the authority of the transgenderist lobby.
Show people how we can disagree with calmness and compassion. They won't learn that from the "Kill TERFs" haters of the transgenderist lobby.
Show people that there is no cause that cannot be questioned--our ability to question our behavior and cultures is what makes us human. They won't learn that from the "no debate" groomers of the transgenderist lobby.
And it works.
I'll leave you with this story from my days with the abused children:
One day a year or two after I quit work at the shelter, I opened my front door to a young girl selling Girl Scout Cookies.
She had once been one of our shelter children!
We were absolutely stunned and overjoyed to see each other.
She had a particularly dark history. She and her family had been sent to our shelter hundreds of miles from Los Angeles because her father was so dangerous. Her mother was a drug addict who "whupped" her children. Her youngest sibling had been born a meth baby. All of us at the shelter had been especially fond of her and her siblings, almost entirely due to her charming, witty, engaging personality. And here she was on my doorstep!
I let her in and had her call her mother to tell her where she was. Then she told me her story: her parents were reconciled and living in our town, they were clean and sober, and they didn't "whup" their children anymore because, her mother said, it didn't do any good. I asked casually how things were with her father, and she said fine, except when he did things she didn't like. My heart sank.
"Like what?" I asked gently.
She said, "Like, he won't let me go places without checking with my mother first."
The Butterfly Effect.
What a difficult job, thankful that there are people in the world that do what you do. Horrible irony though…when you think about us parents in this group. Reverse abuse, being dumped, blocked, verbally abused by your own kids for questioning & caring about the decision they are making.
So courageous. Thank you for your help. I'm sure it made a difference.
Thank you for trying 🙏🫂💜
Doing the right thing isn't always easy. We must always see others as somebody's daughter, mother, brother, etc.. I always pray that the Lord will send someone to talk to my daughter who joined the alphabet cult, maybe this mom was answering someone else's prayer.