You did the right thing!! You planted a seed that very well could grow! You showed concern for someone’s daughter which is nothing short of honorable ♥️
When God sent Philip to the Ethiopian to speak the truth he listened and God message was sent. You are the Philip in her young life trying to show the truth. I’ve prayed and prays for God to send a Philip to reason with my trans so who has dismissed me again and no contact. They just won’t listen to parents … it needs to be an outsider someone who cares. You certainly showed the girl you cared and you were concerned and you were a stranger. Perhaps it got thru to her just a little bit and she will re think what she is doing. You did an admirable thing. I hope and pray she feels it as an opening to truth. So many of your young people are going this way. I heard it’s gone from 2% up to 30% waning towards this sick cult lifestyle. Speaking the truth in love is never wrong. Thank you !
Thank you for confronting her. Too many doctors are cowards and don't care about life anymore. They do what they're told, don't think much about it, and collect money. That's pure evil to me. Many of them know this is wrong based on their basic educational courses but they do this to young people anyway. My daughter hates me for telling her the truth. No one else will. It's a nightmare I live every single day, so I appreciate women like you who have the courage to tell the truth.
I will never understand this. What possesses a young woman who is clearly quite feminine and apparently functional since she's working in a public setting to see someone like the 6-2 dude in the dress and stilettos and say, "yeah, I want to become like that." I just don't get it.
I look back on that paragraph and realize I may have answered my own question: "What possesses a young woman..." What does "possess" her? Maybe that's the right word to use.
For those parents who have been dumped by their kids Does anyone ever feel like the right thing to do is to actually block them? And say ‘ I’ll unblock you when you’re ready to apologize?’ I want to do this so badly. My husband tells me ‘be the grown up’
I get it. I have ‘lost’ two also. Mostly because I do not believe sex is a spectrum or use preferred pronouns. And it’s not as if we’ve had screaming rows about it, they just know we don’t agree. Their tolerance is so low & they are so disappointed that we parents who should love unconditionally just can’t do it. It’s that moral superiority that really gets me. Estrangement per se is becoming so common, not just for the trans reason. It’s so sad that when I think of my kids I just feel pain, when I used to feel joy. What a world.
I understand where you are coming from. I waffle between removing my son's phone numbers and occasionally texting them. I have one in the cult and an ally that have both estranged. I have no idea what I did that caused the other one too, other than I won't use the name and ask, "why would I use the name when I haven't even spoken to him about it?". We have to remember our kids are in a cult. Unfortunately, this is a cult that is supported by medicine, govt.'s & society. Not only are we angry, but incredibly heartbroken. We have a grief that is hard to manage. Peace and strength to you.
This was a pleasure to read, and you cared enough to take a risk.
I am so disturbed that "HRT" is used any time in trans medicine. HRT is replacement estrogen therapy for post menopausal WOMEN. Puberty blockers - relatively safe in a very small population of of children with specific circumstance - i.e. HGH deficiency. They are used for a specific reason to delay puberty and then revert to your natural hormones.
It's insane when the uneducated think HRT + PB have a long history of safety and efficacy - no they don't! They were never evaluated to try to "switch" sex which we all know is impossible. The only officially approved uses have nothing to do with changing sex. I have post-menopausal friends whose MDs won't give them HRT, but hey, lets give it to children!
That one bothers me alot as well, Catherine. HRT stands for Hormone Replacement Therapy which is giving a woman synthetic estrogen when she ages and her body is no longer making all the estrogen it did when young- as an attempt to stay young. As you point out, synthetic estrogen is not handed out to all menopausal women any longer because of the risk of stroke.
So, now phama needs this new market & pushes it on confused young people (take the opposite ones young men and women)! It will be great! They do that to our naive daughters.
These synthetic hormones have always been a drug looking for a market.
Pumping someone full of opposite sex hormones should not even be called HRT. I think it is one more example of sanitizing the "sex change" industry and making it sound like it is some form of "health care".
I like the way you made sure to approach her alone and respectfully and with an attitude of caring and kindness. I also think the fact that she brought it up loudly and publicly (talking about T in a voice meant to be overheard helped create an environment where you could respond. She wasn't minding her own business, but making a public statement, and I admire the way you went about saying something in a way that wasn't meant to make her defensive, but just, as you say, create a pebble in a shoe and a crack.
I want to go up to trans males I see thrifting women's clothes and say, "Your mom really misses you." I wonder what percentage of them have cut off contact with their parents? Most?
I’m afraid you underestimate how stubborn youngsters are, and how convinced of their own invincibility. Add to that the social media echo chamber, and it’s a fairly lost cause. I tried to have this conversation with a young trans person, but I think it all fell on deaf ears. He told me he was aware of the side effects, and went ahead with the hormones.
What is needed to move the needle is trans youth to come out in droves on TikTok talking about the negative health outcomes they’ve experienced from hormones and surgery.
Those will hopefully stop the surgeons from wanting to be in this game. But the hormone taking, that will only be stopped by kids telling kids hard cold truths. For example, that male pattern baldness looks really bad on a 20 year old girl. Or that “bottom growth” is not a small penis, but an enlarged clitoris that rubs so painfully on clothing that you can’t wear tight jeans anymore.
I’m sure this person went on Reddit and complained that a “transphobe” ruined her day. Sigh.
Bless you for having the compassion and courage to speak to her.
You did the right thing!! You planted a seed that very well could grow! You showed concern for someone’s daughter which is nothing short of honorable ♥️
When God sent Philip to the Ethiopian to speak the truth he listened and God message was sent. You are the Philip in her young life trying to show the truth. I’ve prayed and prays for God to send a Philip to reason with my trans so who has dismissed me again and no contact. They just won’t listen to parents … it needs to be an outsider someone who cares. You certainly showed the girl you cared and you were concerned and you were a stranger. Perhaps it got thru to her just a little bit and she will re think what she is doing. You did an admirable thing. I hope and pray she feels it as an opening to truth. So many of your young people are going this way. I heard it’s gone from 2% up to 30% waning towards this sick cult lifestyle. Speaking the truth in love is never wrong. Thank you !
I think you were very brave, and did her a favor.
Thank you for confronting her. Too many doctors are cowards and don't care about life anymore. They do what they're told, don't think much about it, and collect money. That's pure evil to me. Many of them know this is wrong based on their basic educational courses but they do this to young people anyway. My daughter hates me for telling her the truth. No one else will. It's a nightmare I live every single day, so I appreciate women like you who have the courage to tell the truth.
Well said, good mama. - LM
Strong men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft men make bad times. Bad times make strong men. That's where we are.
I will never understand this. What possesses a young woman who is clearly quite feminine and apparently functional since she's working in a public setting to see someone like the 6-2 dude in the dress and stilettos and say, "yeah, I want to become like that." I just don't get it.
I look back on that paragraph and realize I may have answered my own question: "What possesses a young woman..." What does "possess" her? Maybe that's the right word to use.
For those parents who have been dumped by their kids Does anyone ever feel like the right thing to do is to actually block them? And say ‘ I’ll unblock you when you’re ready to apologize?’ I want to do this so badly. My husband tells me ‘be the grown up’
I get it. I have ‘lost’ two also. Mostly because I do not believe sex is a spectrum or use preferred pronouns. And it’s not as if we’ve had screaming rows about it, they just know we don’t agree. Their tolerance is so low & they are so disappointed that we parents who should love unconditionally just can’t do it. It’s that moral superiority that really gets me. Estrangement per se is becoming so common, not just for the trans reason. It’s so sad that when I think of my kids I just feel pain, when I used to feel joy. What a world.
You do love unconditionally.
But this crazy world confuses love with being willing to lie, refuse reality, and accept the unacceptable.
Thanks…everything is so messed up
I understand where you are coming from. I waffle between removing my son's phone numbers and occasionally texting them. I have one in the cult and an ally that have both estranged. I have no idea what I did that caused the other one too, other than I won't use the name and ask, "why would I use the name when I haven't even spoken to him about it?". We have to remember our kids are in a cult. Unfortunately, this is a cult that is supported by medicine, govt.'s & society. Not only are we angry, but incredibly heartbroken. We have a grief that is hard to manage. Peace and strength to you.
This was a pleasure to read, and you cared enough to take a risk.
I am so disturbed that "HRT" is used any time in trans medicine. HRT is replacement estrogen therapy for post menopausal WOMEN. Puberty blockers - relatively safe in a very small population of of children with specific circumstance - i.e. HGH deficiency. They are used for a specific reason to delay puberty and then revert to your natural hormones.
It's insane when the uneducated think HRT + PB have a long history of safety and efficacy - no they don't! They were never evaluated to try to "switch" sex which we all know is impossible. The only officially approved uses have nothing to do with changing sex. I have post-menopausal friends whose MDs won't give them HRT, but hey, lets give it to children!
That one bothers me alot as well, Catherine. HRT stands for Hormone Replacement Therapy which is giving a woman synthetic estrogen when she ages and her body is no longer making all the estrogen it did when young- as an attempt to stay young. As you point out, synthetic estrogen is not handed out to all menopausal women any longer because of the risk of stroke.
So, now phama needs this new market & pushes it on confused young people (take the opposite ones young men and women)! It will be great! They do that to our naive daughters.
These synthetic hormones have always been a drug looking for a market.
Pumping someone full of opposite sex hormones should not even be called HRT. I think it is one more example of sanitizing the "sex change" industry and making it sound like it is some form of "health care".
Good for you. We need to care more than fear. You are an excellent example for us.
I like the way you made sure to approach her alone and respectfully and with an attitude of caring and kindness. I also think the fact that she brought it up loudly and publicly (talking about T in a voice meant to be overheard helped create an environment where you could respond. She wasn't minding her own business, but making a public statement, and I admire the way you went about saying something in a way that wasn't meant to make her defensive, but just, as you say, create a pebble in a shoe and a crack.
her caring and gentle approach has far greater likelihood of making that young woman potentially rethink her position than any other approach would.
I applaud you. You never know what will spark a doubt.
Never stop. I hope you see my daughter someday 🙏
I want to go up to trans males I see thrifting women's clothes and say, "Your mom really misses you." I wonder what percentage of them have cut off contact with their parents? Most?
I would love to know that figure too. Just today, I saw someone ask out on X how many are estranged.
Mine has 😭
My heart aches for you.
I’m afraid you underestimate how stubborn youngsters are, and how convinced of their own invincibility. Add to that the social media echo chamber, and it’s a fairly lost cause. I tried to have this conversation with a young trans person, but I think it all fell on deaf ears. He told me he was aware of the side effects, and went ahead with the hormones.
What is needed to move the needle is trans youth to come out in droves on TikTok talking about the negative health outcomes they’ve experienced from hormones and surgery.
Widely publicized winning lawsuits brought about by Detransitioners and parents would be better.
Those will hopefully stop the surgeons from wanting to be in this game. But the hormone taking, that will only be stopped by kids telling kids hard cold truths. For example, that male pattern baldness looks really bad on a 20 year old girl. Or that “bottom growth” is not a small penis, but an enlarged clitoris that rubs so painfully on clothing that you can’t wear tight jeans anymore.
That doesn't even seem to work when Detransitioners tell them.