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John Moore's avatar

Excellent information.

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GadflyBytes's avatar

It’s such a sinister twist to frame a host of dangerous medical interventions to alter one’s sexual phenotype as a human right, but also that to try and warn people considering it of the dangers specifically is a form of bigotry or violence against them. Pharmaceutical company marketing departments may be the most diabolical group of people ever, with the apparent combined conscience of Eichmann. I think that most of them are probably on a heavy cocktail of their company’s own drugs. Hannah Arendt warned us about the banality of evil.

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Ellen's avatar

So horrible .. so sorry ... this video may be triggering, or helpful, I don't know .. a 27 year old man regretting his decision to attempt to surgically change his genitals ...

Hhttps://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1559309458915921921

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Beeswax's avatar

This is not a man. This is a woman who was aided and abetted by surgeons to believe she could be made over as a man.

This is the reality of "bottom surgery." It should be both triggering AND helpful. Triggering, because look what medical incompetence has done to this young WOMAN's health and sexuality. Helpful, because it's an object lesson, the moral of which is: don't have "sex reassignment surgery," it's a Trojan horse of lies and mutilation.

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Ellen's avatar

Oh, wow, I honestly thought it was a biological man trying to become a woman. I see that by listening it makes sense it's a woman with, um, new parts that have no feeling, not a man who still has some of the parts he was born with.

( I wouldn't have said he if I realized the person was born a she )

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Beeswax's avatar

I understand.

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Mothers Grim's avatar

Thank you for this. This article ran in the NY Post just recently on one family's account of their son's use of this awful drug.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/georgia-family-blames-propecia-for-sons-suicide/

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BowWow's avatar

I can’t imagine having to witness that ever day and being unable to speak up about it. Free speech has become a joke.

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Indio's avatar

Thank you for your story and the information you gave regarding the medications that our loved ones are probably taking. I do not know what drugs my once beautiful granddaughter is on but seeing her picture recently on social media has me wondering. I did not recognize her, this young woman I have loved all her life. I had to be told who she was. Of course, it has been over 4 years since I have seen her in person. She turned her back on me, taking her 3 children, my great grandchildren, with her, along with my heart. I would really like it back, though it is battered and bruised. I will keep praying for her and her children, and for all who are suffering. My God, Jesus the Christ, gives me peace and hope while I wait. My family has been fractured by this Insane debacle; this grandchild was a young adult, along with her brother who first thought he was gay, but now lives as a woman cohabiting with a biological woman. Their younger brother was just a teenager when he decided he could no longer stand to be male and chose to live as female. All three are highly intelligent, talented, gentle of heart and mentally ill. My prayers are for truth to prevail, for justice for families such as yours, and mine and so many others, and for reconciliation of what has been broken.

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Mrs Miller's avatar

The very real threat of hair loss is a talisman i hold dear. It could very well be a deal-breaker for my ROGD daughter. Good to know the medical community addresses that by throwing gasoline on an already raging fire.

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

My now dead Trans ex-H used to suffer from an enlarged prostate in his 50s, for which he was prescribed Finasteride here in the UK. This was many years before he "came out", of course. He said nothing about his medication in the 4 years before he left us (in 2006), but I found out from medical letters revealed in divorce proceedings that he had started taking oestrogen instead of finasteride after about 2002, and his prostate problem went away.... but his mental problems (narcissism, "gas-lighting", lack of empathy for his family, etc.) became much worse.

I was told that finasteride for prostate enlargement affected having an erection and that it caused growth of male "breasts". Of course I didn't see him naked after 2002 anyway as his behaviour was so unpleasant as he retreated into insanity.

I had no idea that Finasteride was used to treat male-pattern baldness when given at a lower dose.

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BowWow's avatar

"...but his mental problems (narcissism, "gas-lighting", lack of empathy for his family, etc.) became much worse."

It's so interesting to me to hear about these qualities in mtf over and over again from families. My son, who had been a delightful child, completely changed a few years before he started transing. I wonder which came first: the narcissim and lack of empathy or the desire to transition? Did your husband's personality change a lot over the years? Do you have thoughts about what led to what?

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Caroline Kemball's avatar

Those sound like very unethical cocktails . psychotropic drugs being in the mix suggests these people desperately suffer from depression and other mental health issues.

Your mention of side effects is informative, we rarely hear about kidney and liver problems with use of synthetic hormones but they are very real and the sole prospect of lifelong hormone dependency makes me shudder. I don't personally believe it is feasible, i suspect were going to see desistance in middle age onwards because of progressive unsustainable organ failure.

The shift towards such extremely unhealthy attitudes and practices is tantamount to brainwashing young generations towards finding serious drug addiction acceptable.

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

My trans ex-H started oestrogen from about 2002 (see comment above) until he died earlier this year (2022). His final list of medications was: (1) estradiol patches, (2) an antibiotic for a urinary track infection, (3) a statin to lower cholesterol and (4) a drug to treat heart arrhythmia. I know this list because he left it lying on the passenger seat of his car and I photographed it using HD mode. He died aged 85. I am 20 years younger.

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Caroline Kemball's avatar

It's a good old age considering, but I you might say he would have lived longer without.

Scott Newgent says he's got constant infections.look at jazz jenning, she looked like such a healthy happy kid up to the time they put her on drugs. I always suspected with her that it's oestrogen and progesterone that attacked her metabolism. The body can't cope even when the brain says yes.

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

He had excellent health for all his life before 2002. He was a hypochondriac and always bothering his doctors about polyps in his colon or moles on his back. I am sure he was never out of his doctor's surgery after he started cross-sex hormones.

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

Oh one last thing: he died suddenly, without warning. Literally he was standing up one moment and then dead with a cracked skull after he fell over on a stone patio. What caused the vertigo/weakness/?? The autopsy did not reveal.

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Caroline Kemball's avatar

Estrogen can provoke extreme vertigo, I had it unfortunately while on an ivf pregnancy. I would fall out of bed, splattering like a fish out of water. Hospital doctors chucked me out, had to be wheeled out, couldn't walk for weeks without falling. Apparently they tell you about this side effect but it never used to be mentioned in writing.

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

Thank you very much for this information. I am a "Properly Interested Person" in the Coroner's inquest into his unnatural death. This possible cause should be investigated by the pathologist. He should look at my ex-H's regimen of estradiol patches and whether he had just started a new one, maybe.

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Frederick R Prete's avatar

Thank you for this very thoughtful essay. The sad truth is that doctors have known for decades the deleterious effects that anabolic steroid (i.e., testosterone, DHT) manipulation has on women. I wrote a bit about this in my Substack article "Steroids, Gender, and Fair Play" within the context of the Olympic doping scandals of the late 1970s and 1980s. There are innumerable reports documenting the lifelong harm done to women athletes during those decades. Likewise, the deleterious effects of finasteride are well documented, as you've pointed out.

It is no secret that steroids are potent hormones that have effects system-wide. You cannot manipulate *any* hormone and expect only the effects that you want. Biology doesn't work like that. Further, hormones interact with other hormones (and tissues) in complex ways that cannot always be predicted. It's unclear to me how anyone in the medical field can ignore this information except by willful ignorance.

Thank you again for this thoughtful essay. I wish the best outcome for you and your family. Sincerely, Frederick

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Una-Jane Winfield's avatar

Why the medical fraternity hide their complicity like the Mafia is beyond me?!

There is a whole chapter (or several chapters) to be written about the complex abuse of medicines in the "treatment" of "trans" patients - who should of course be steered towards psychotherapy, and acceptance of biological reality.

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Judy Crane's avatar

Thank you for sharing your story. I have encouraged my son to causally mention his receding hair line to his sister in the hopes that the threat of balding would add to the reasons to rethink testosterone. How sad to think finasteride might be added to her growing list of medications. And yes, most of the meds are psychiatric.

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Judy Crane's avatar

Thank you for sharing your story. I have encouraged my son to causally mention his receding hair line to his sister in the hopes that the threat of balding would add to the reasons to rethink testosterone. How sad to think finasteride might be added to her growing list of medications. And yes, most of the meds are psychiatric.

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Mom of a dysphoric kid's avatar

I had no idea.

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Barbara Pecze's avatar

Thank you so much for sharing. Wow! All those side effects make me cringe! I'm so sorry about your daughter. She's surely is being exploited by trans activists, governments, the medical professionals and parents' who buy into this crap. Anyone standing against this evil, and/or telling their own personal horror stories of detransitioning are to be commended for their bravery and forthrightness. I sense transgenderism is coming to boil sooner or later and popping like a poison pimple. And I pray that it is soon.

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KP's avatar

As an "okay Catholic" lady who's mother told her not to use the Lord's name in vain, I don't say this lightly... CHRIST ON A BIKE! I am so sorry this is happening to your daughter and you can only watch from a far.

I don't know how any one of these doctors/therapists etc. can be so blind to the fact that this cohort of girls who turn self-harm into an art form, whether its anorexia in the 90s, bulimia and cutting in the noughties, now they have handed them steroids... actual steroids and they expect that to fix anything? Don't we teach doctors to actually practice medicine anymore??

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