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Brian Villanueva's avatar

OK, I've never written this here because I try to keep wider political issues out of PITT. But you opened this can of worms!

Women obtain nearly 60% of all undergraduate degrees. (https://tinyurl.com/yc6w98tt)

Women are 70%+ of corporate HR departments. (https://tinyurl.com/3bksvh9t)

Gender ideology and "diversity, equity, and inclusion" are both offshoots of postmodernist Critical Theory. These ideologies ruminated in universities for decades, radicalizing themselves, before busting onto into public view in the last 10 years. In the corporate world, the center of both these ideologies is the HR department. This correlation is not accidental.

Women are more conflict averse than men and more concerned with "getting along" rather than "being correct". Yes, I know these are stereotypes, but they're also somewhat true and there's LOTS of data over many decades to back this up. Whether these differences are nature (inborn) or nurture (socialized behaviors) is debatable; that these differences exist is not. And they matter.

Don't take it personally, ladies. Feminism finally put you into the driver's seat of Western Civilization, and you just drove the car into a ditch for the first time. We men have driven the car into lots of ditches over the centuries too. The goal here isn't to lay blame; the goal is to get out of the ditch.

I believe men have a unique role to play in pulling the car out of the ditch, but ti will require dealing with these larger issues. Men need to become men again, first of all. We need to push back on the feminization of social norms. We need to assert boldly that objective truth matters more than your feelings. We need to assert the reality of sexual differences. We need to push back on forcing boys into girl-shaped boxes in schools. We must develop a male right of passage that confirms a boy has become a man. Women get this biologically; men don't.

Many here compare "trans" to anorexia/bulemia -- correctly, I think. By that standard, Western civilization has the social equivalent of a compulsive eating disorder. Trying to fix our gender ideology problem without curing the underlying social conditions that created it is kind of like trying to fix anorexia by going to a buffet. It won't work.

OK. Rant over. I promise I won't bring it up again.

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Puzzle Therapy's avatar

I have also come to the conclusion that modern feminism (“modern” defined by mostly 3rd wave with some elements of certain brands of 2nd wave feminism) and my attempts to teach it to my daughter has resulted in a lot of harm. Let me add a few to your list:

- By openly and repeatedly denigrating things that are “too girly” (pink, princesses, unicorns and sparkle) I (and the rest of progressive society) created a lot of angst and confusion in my daughter because she liked those things. What was she to make of those feelings and personal preferences? She has explicitly told me she struggled with liking things that made her a “weak” girl. I wonder if this is why so many girls get drawn into the toxic anime, Lolita, and kawaii communities? Maybe it’s the only way they can enjoy cute and “girlie” things in a way that’s seen as “acceptable?”

- All the feminist claims that there were literally no strength or athletic differences between men and women have become the basis of the sports debate

- Girls too often heard the message that the way to show they were strong and not being oppressed was by having “male” jobs and behaving in “male” ways. The message was rarely to demand more respect for “female” jobs or behaviors. Consider the recent Netflix adaptation of Jane Austen’s “Persuasion.” The female protagonist’s personality and behaviors were completely changed from being introverted, introspective, reflective, moderate, and thoughtful to a loud, impulsive, neurotic, drinking, and outspoken feminist type because the original character was not modern or relatable. Of course there is nothing wrong with loud, outspoken women, but what are we telling girls when we reject any other way of being a woman?

- Drawing on Jonathan Haidt, so much of what society and I were teaching my daughter about feminism (and many other social issues around identity) were the exact opposite of the basics of good mental health practices taught in CBT (and I will also add DBT). Even Matt Yglesias just wrote about the trend of liberal teens having much worse mental health than moderate and conservative teens. I’m not saying that the only other option is to be a conservative or republican (I’m also not saying there’s anything wrong with those either) but I am saying that those whose politics and policy positions align with the left need to reconsider how they framing everything. Progress won’t happen when 1/2 your future base is hopeless and too depressed to do things.

I’m not anti-feminist. I don’t believe we’re in a world where misogyny and discrimination doesn’t happen. But I do believe there are better ways to frame it and address the problems.

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