Thank You Gays Against Groomers
When my daughter came out as "trans" and a "gay guy". I thought to myself "no, no, no, you've got this all wrong". On all the social media sites these past years I didn’t see pushback for girls being gay guys, and guys being lesbians. I was silently enraged for gays/bi people, having to deal with this nonsensical twist of reality. But, I didn't see much pushback—until recently.
For all these previous years I quietly thought to myself “if Only". If only gay men would speak out, if only my daughter would hear that perspective—maybe she'd see what was actually going on in this toxic cult.
Finally, the word is out, thanks to Gays Against Groomers. I’d like to explicitly say thank you to the founder Jaimee Michell. Thank you for your courage and leadership, and taking a stand for my/our kids.
We see you Gays Against Groomers—pushing back from in your own community and standing up to protect my/our children!
We see you going to rallies on the street, we see you at school board meetings, we see you at legislative hearings. We see you trying to "save the tomboys" and ensuring the transing of our youth is ended.
We see you speaking out on the indoctrination, medicalization of our kids. We see your statement of No child is born in the wrong body. We see you objecting kids at drag shows.
We see you standing with Scott Newgent @Trevoices.com, with Detransitioners like Chloe Cole, Abel Garcia, Prisha, and Camille Kiefel, to name a few.
Gay men are just making my heart explode with joy. Keep screaming gay men! Many daughters like mine need pushback, they need their eyes opened, to see that it is their behavior that is bigoted, not the other way around. Keep screaming lesbians/bisexuals—we need your voices like never before!
With all sincerity, from a Mom that has waited so many years for you (over 7 to be exact) and the reality you might bring to my trans identifying daughter who believes she’s a gay guy… Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
p.s. Love your new flag!
I'm posting my rebuttal to the slander about me in the new issue of what had once been a Lesbian Feminist journal since the Seventies, now taken over by men claiming to be Lesbians, so other here can see what we have been fighting and have had to deal with for over 50 years. It can't all fit, so it's in two parts:
Truth Versus Lies by Bev Jo Von Dohre
Friends told me that I and our Lesbian history and community are slandered in Sinister Wisdom issue 128, called “Trans/Feminisms,” though the title explains the Lesbian-hatred. Mr. Stryker, Julie Enszer, and the editors gave me no way to refute Stryker’s lies (which are also included in his book.) As much as I don’t have the time to waste with this, I feel I have to answer with the truth, since I’m not the only one affected. (Since I don't have the issue, a friend sent me a few pages, so that is what I'm responding to.)
Considering that the entire trans cult is a lie (no one can change sex), it should not be a surprise that they lie about everything else when it suits them.
My response:
1. Stryker uses Elliott Basil Mattiuzzi’s lies to erase me and also our Lesbian history. (Soon after Elliott stalked me into the Lesbian community, he re-named himself “Beth Elliott,” which I believe was to have a name as close to mine as possible, just as he tried to dye his hair a similar shade of red.)
2. Elliott has been stalking me since I said no to him when I was 17, in 1968. The last time I saw him was at a Lesbian event, in 2019, just before the lockdown, where he put "Beverly" on his nametag and sat at the table I was at with friends. (There were witnesses.) He also has shown up when I posted in a local Lesbian list about events and would sit at the table I was at, daring me to tell him to leave.
3. In the mid-Eighties, Elliott lied to the "off our backs" Feminist newspaper collective, saying that he was a "woman born woman" to get his article "Lesbian Sex" printed. The arrogance of a man writing such an article.
4. Elliott also describes himself as bisexual when it suits him (his first relationship that I knew of was with a older man named Richard), so Elliott claiming to be a Lesbian is a lie on several levels. He is also a sado-masochist, which is a group who thrives on provoking and forcing non-consensual scenes. He has bragged about winning "Ms. Leather" for Alameda County when he was the only contestant.
5. Elliott has doxxed me – putting my location and other personal information online, knowing I’ve already gotten rape, mutilation, and death threats from his trans brethren, endangering me and other Lesbians in my life.
6. Elliott also harasses other Lesbians and is openly racist (in his writings and comments). He so terrorized an African-descent friend a few years ago that she changed her phone number. (She had seen him grooming a young woman and warned the woman who then went to Elliott, so he called my friend and yelled at her. She does not scare easily. But underestimating these men is dangerous, as more are finding out.)
7. I am a Lifelong Lesbian, in love with other girls from my earliest memories and have refused to be heterosexual. I paid a high price as a teenager for saying I was a Lesbian before we had any support. (This is when we were branded by the psychiatric institutions as needing to be "cured" by torture, imprisonment, or "conversion therapy.") So Stryker’s insinuations through Elliott are particularly disgusting. My responses:
8. NO, I did not "come out together" with Elliott. He was a het man I met at USF when I was 17, who pressured me to be his girlfriend. I said no and told him I was in love with my best friend, Marg. He had no idea what a Lesbian was. I made the mistake of feeling sorry for him and so tried to be friends with him. He was "still living as a man" because that is what he is.
9. What "flirtation" in our "coming out process"? Again, I did not "come out" with him. I was already a Lesbian. He was and is a man. There was NO flirtation from me, though he kept on at me. Elliott gave me the creeps and I found him repulsive.
10. Stryker is so manipulative with his lies. I NEVER said Elliott was "always pressuring me for sex,” which implies that we had an intimate relationship. Wishful thinking from Elliott or a way to erase me? There was never any intimacy or “sex” between us, but he kept watching me and followed me around. He was after me in a way that I realized later was stalking because when I briefly became friends with another man through USF, Elliott flipped out, ranting and crying at me, as if I belonged to him. (I had no idea how dangerous this was for me until later.)
11. No, Elliott did not "make a name for 'himself' in the early women's music scene." (Has Stryker never heard him perform?) There were a lot of wonderful Lesbian singer/songwriter/musicians and Elliott was not one of them. He's certainly not listed in any compilation of Lesbian or Feminist women performers that I've ever seen.
12. No, Elliott was not on the organizing committee for the West Coast Lesbian Conference in 1973. Jeanne Cordova, who was the actual organizer, refuted his lie and demanded a retraction and apology. (I don't believe Jeanne had heard him sing or play guitar, but invited him, thinking that that would bring more attention to the conference. There were some actual Lesbian performers who were wonderful, like the Family of Woman band. Much of their music can be heard on Linda Shear's beautiful album, "A Lesbian Portrait.")
13. Yes, I and many Lesbians at the conference were upset that a man was given space and time to perform at a rare Lesbian event. We did not "threaten" anything. We protested. Since I was in the unique position of knowing Elliott personally from before he claimed to be a woman and Lesbian, and knew that he was as far from being a Lesbian as a man could get, I felt I had to speak out. (When he stalked me into the Lesbian Feminist community, he immediately got into power positions, as men do.) Three of us who were Lesbian Separatists formed the Gutter Dyke collective (named by our poverty class member to reflect her and our working class cultures). We later wrote about the conference in our newspaper, Dykes and Gorgons, in 1973. Every Lesbian I remember at the conference protested Elliott being there since he clearly was a man.
14. Robin Morgan did not spend "hours of consultation" with us (but why does Stryker think he knows what we did when he wasn’t there, except to insinuate that we influenced her?) Robin used her Feminist common sense and own awareness about men like Elliott in supporting all the Lesbians at the conference to not have a man invading our space. Her speech was important and accurate though Stryker gave a "trigger warning" for those too fragile to read that a man cannot be a woman. I don't know who her reference to a "San Francisco Lesbian being pressured to let a man rape her" was about, but I have never said Elliott raped me or tried to. (He wouldn't dare.) But I agree that men forcing their way into our few precious and rare spaces against our will is a form of rape.
15. Our Lesbian culture and community were not a "scene." I worked on the likely first Lesbian Feminist conference in the world in Berkeley in 1972 and soon became a Lesbian Separatist, which is about loving and supporting Lesbians. Stryker calling us "transphobic" and "TERF-leaning" slurs of course makes men like him and Elliott the center of attention, as men do, rather than that we are simply saying no to them. (Don't women have the right to be away from men? Clearly not to the trans cult.)
16. Of course we supported the Lesbians in the Daughters of Bilitis who did not want a man in their Lesbian organization and especially not in a power position. Elliott is extremely manipulative with his lies, so well-meaning Lesbians have often been conned into feeling sorry for him, as I once did. What I remember is that that original Lesbian organization ended rather than continue with Elliott. One more loss for Lesbians, caused by a man.
Trans issues were started by two wealthy homosexuals and pedophiles. It is a war on human beings. On reality. Sodomy is part of that. Nobody is "born that way" as the large cohort identical twin studies prove conclusively. Its a developmental disorder.
Our children are paying the price with their whole lives for our insanity and moral decay.