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Un-silent's avatar

Matt 6:14-15

14 "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, 15 but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses"

These unforgiving children (even if the trespasses are imagined) need to learn these words from Our Lord Jesus.

Natalia's avatar

They’re all on Tik Tok. There are people on Tik Tok preaching values too but is the algorithm reaching these hard line left wing liberal pro trans echo chambers?

CA mom's avatar

Excellent contribution. Unfortunately I think many of us (us, being humans) don’t truly realize the value of family until much later in life.

Angela Linton's avatar

Excellent comments. Therapy speak has become toxic.

nina's avatar

Parental abuse exists. Not everyone should be parents.

The newest level of the problem is the trans activists making all heterosexual parents out to be abusers. They are building on the once usual norm of nonheterosexual offspring being exiled or having to leave their family of origin. Trans ignores the social shift of accepting these offspring

Religion taught that it was up to students to believe biology as a way to fight against evolution, and trans built that on that to claim it was up to a student what their biology was. Schools and social workers fixating on trans is also severing the parental bond.

That said, the 1980s DARE program was an intuitional attempt to separate children and parents with children not so much taught to avoid drugs but to report their drug using parents to police.

We are currently teaching children to be anxious and to expect society to cater to their every whim at the same time. We need to get back to reality - measurable and objective. Not delusional magical thinking.

Karole's avatar

All good reasons, but misses the main reason - the belief in a secular humanist worldview where man is god and has all the answers. Nothing good ever happens when God is rejected. We are experiencing the reality of what is described in detail in Romans 1:18-32. I hope everyone will take a minute to read it. A false understanding of a problem produces a false solution which results in failure to accomplish lasting change.

James Meacham's avatar

So, replacing one unprovable fantasy (omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient sky-daddy) for another (sexed souled “gender identity” ) is the answer? I know you’ll think this rude, but how about we restrict conversations about policy to things we can prove, not just those we believe in our hearts?

Karole's avatar

No, I don't think it's rude, just uninformed. Look around you, James. What do you see? A generation of lost, confused, hurting kids and adults who are deceived about the most scientific biological fact there is - irreversible male and female determined at fertilization on every nucleated cell in the body. We've been taught the tenets of secular humanism in classrooms for decades, that we're chance products of evolution with no innate value and no future. Instead of being valued as children, they're sexualized, groomed, mentally abused, and used by adults who believe morals/right-and-wrong/good-and-evil are all relative based on what they want, and that they won't be held accountable for anything they do. That's just for starters of what happens when God is removed. Most people are seeing the destruction of our society, but like you, had rather deny the cause than admit the truth. The proof is in the pudding. It actually takes less faith to believe in God than it takes to believe He doesn't exist. He will show you and anyone else if you sincerely ask Him. Praying for you and all who come to this site.

James Meacham's avatar

There are not many people for whom the adjective "uninformed" on matters of faith would be less apropos (M.Div., Harvard Divinity School, BA, Philosophy and Religion, U of MD). This is an example of the *post hoc ergo propter hoc* fallacy ("after this, therefore because of this"). All the things you point out about the current generation are true, but not because they have taken leave of faith, but because they have taken leave of *reason*. It's a lot more convincing to make the argument "people don't change sex because that's what science tells us," than "you can't change sex because that's what our imaginary sky-daddy told a tribe of illiterate iron age desert-dwellers some 4000 years ago". The problem is that when you use faith rather than reason as the basis of your beliefs, it opens the door for people to believe any damn thing they want. Like "Donald Trump is a righteous president" or "vaccines cause autism". We will do much better if we restrict questions that can be answered by science to evidence and science. You want to follow the ethical dictates of an itinerant desert preacher in the ACE 35 Roman Empire, don't let me stop you. You could do worse. But we can't expect anyone but believers to find those kinds of arguments convincing... because they are not.

Eleganta's avatar

"But we can't expect anyone but believers to find those kinds of arguments convincing... because they are not."

In a nutshell, James.

And we can't expect believers to give up their beliefs just because their arguments are not convincing. They didn't logically argue their way belief. They won't be logically argued back out of it.

This is why science doesn't depend upon "faith" but religion does.

Karole's avatar

My experience has been the more letters and titles after a name regarding religion means that person is farther from the truth than those who read the Word and let the Holy Spirit guide us through it. Too many people and too much pride get in the way. Sadly, you prove my point. I'm sorry about that. God gives us plenty of reasons to believe. Professing to be wise, they become fools. A natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. I have no idea what made you want to follow a divinity path, but you missed it.

Natalia's avatar

Idolatry. The cult of the rainbow, which has done so much to promote estrangement resembles the cult of Moloch. Not all estrangement is rainbow related of course but you are completely correct in relation to what happens when we abandon He who made us. I like Psalm 94: “Take notice, you senseless ones among the people; you fools, when will you become wise? Does he who fashioned the ear not hear? Does he who formed the eye not see?” In conclusion either we return to God or we destroy ourselves

Karole's avatar

Yes. The in-God's-face-with-the-middle-finger started in earnest with three things: 1) the perversion of God's seven-color rainbow with the six-color LGBTQ rainbow 2) called Pride which God hates; 3) that celebrates behaviors that are in complete rejection of God's purpose in creating man and woman in the beginning and us individually now. Especially interesting to me is that Satan is, as always, mimicking what God does - he gives those captured by and sacrificed to his trans cult a new name. Their new name is Satan's name for them that identifies them as his. I can't verify this in Scripture, but I think calling them by their new name affirms and somehow strengthens Satan's power over them. My guess is that pagan/witchcraft/Satanism practice do that, but I don't know for sure. What I do know is that I no longer pray for deliverance of the trapped people I know by their new names.

Natalia's avatar

This is interesting and yet puzzling - let’s research this because many of these trans kids chose Biblical names. Not all of course. But there’s an awful trans influencer on Tik Tok who uses the name Noah. A totally messed up girl. They even have lists of the names the kids are supposed to choose from, many of them are Biblical. But I also know about the pornographic names many autogynephilles chose.

Based on my Jewish perspective only God renames, and that after a spiritual elevation. But trans is a degradation of the soul.

Karole's avatar

Their choice of a biblical name adds insult to injury.

Natalia's avatar

It’s what you say, mimicking for the purposes of degradation

EyesOpen's avatar

Thank you for addressing this issue. "This cultural shift raises an important question for the future: are we encouraging healing, or are we unintentionally normalizing permanent division within families?"

I have written about "How to Stop Detachment Brokers". https://thetranstrain.substack.com/p/how-to-spot-detachment-brokers

I encourage pushback whenever you see or encounter those to advocate breaking the parent-child bond.

Natalia's avatar

I do, I argue with those on Tik Tok promoting estrangement but they are genuinely sociopathic. They say things like “my narcissistic birthing vessel” and so on. I feel sick. When we see evil this has an effect on our souls too. Let them. No society ever survived extraordinary narcissism. One day they will either grow and change or they will be abandoned by others who will see what they’re like.

EyesOpen's avatar

Some have gone dark or have been influenced by evil. Some not, and those kids may grow and widen their perspective. Time will tell. As parents, we must care for ourselves and grow our capacity to heal and repair bonds if given the opportunity.