The people working at that clinic need to be called out, exposed for what they tried to do. Not just the doctors but the support staff too. They need to be made pariah's in the community.
Thank you, Robin for sharing this. I will show this to my daughter. We want to make sure she keeps on this path, you never know what's round the corner so things like this are great to make her stop and think. Thank you bless you
This is a cult. You and all the people who care about you and your family have just saved your daughter from a cult. They prey on the lonely and isolated and unprotected. You showed up for your daughter and they did indeed retract their claws. Predators target the weak so they will move along to the next potential victim. I cannot express how relieved I am for you and yours—Godspeed.
@Eleanor Leech i am not very familiar with Substack, but send you a DM. I can help parents who are in a fight with the clinic. My friend Beano Jameson tipped me to contact you.
Yes, thank heavens for sure. There are good people in the world, they may get drowned out by the shrieking of the gender trenders, but we find them, or they find us.
And being in the US they’re able to walk into planned parenthood sign a paper & get hormones even as minors people are shocked when I tell them this. So corrupt. My kid is gonna blame me for everything anyway so I’m damned if I do or don’t.
I thought the new administration was going to wipe the floor with these gender clinic monsters? They need to be good to their word.
Your daughter will realise that you've always been there for her. She sounds like our daughter, wouldn't listen to us and went behind our backs. If the clinic hadn't sent the letter to our house blowing the whistle on themselves, we would be telling the exact same story as you right now.
That letter to the surgeon you were going to send, please do it. And send them the Genspect survey, tell them to fill it out, I bet you they decline. They'll be too scared to sign it.
They need a reckoning, they need to pay for what they are doing to children
My 25 year old daughter fits this situation perfectly but she has been on hormones several years already & had a mastectomy last year. I wish I had seen this years ago. I had thought about sending a letter to the surgeon threatening him with legal action based on her extensive psychological history. Now I am very sad I did not. But my daughter would have hated me for it. She cannot see clearly & never listened to us anyway. Heartbroken.
So sorry to hear this about your daughter. The Genspect survey is very new, it was created by a very good soul who shares your same heartache. Please if you can download it, maybe read it with your daughter as it lists all the things she may not know about. And DEFINITELY send it to the surgeon, ask them to fill in their relevant sections, but remember, make sure they know all eyes are on them, and CC in Genspect so the surgeon knows there are proper medical professionals with an interest in your daughter's well being. Good luck with it and love to your family and to your daughter, I hope things turn brighter for all of you x
Unfortunately she’s already had her surgery. She is truly a cult member she has an answer for every objection. She has rewritten her entire childhood to fit the narrative along with her ongoing victim schtick. She is the one that has become abusive & she wants to “repair our relationship “ as she demands that I “take accountability for her trauma”. I hate to sound unserious but I JUST CANNOT EVEN with all this self indulgent clap trap!!
Eleanor, thank you for sharing this and also for sharing the details about Healthcare Improvement Scotland. I will indeed put in a complaint to them and will send them everything about our daughter's experience with the clinic.
I'll keep you in the loop. if you are going to send them the survey please do what we did, and make sure they know Genspect are in the loop, as well as Healthcare Improvement Scotland and as many other concerned family and friends you can. I'm happy to add my name to your list too, if so can we private message on here? I will give you my contact details.
When you print off the Genspect survey let your young lad read all of the side effects listed in the questionnaire. I hope it might help, but happy to help in any way I can. Love to you and all your family and best wishes to you all, especially your young lad
Just looking up Waterside again, they are regulated by Healthcare Improvement Scotland, did you (or would you) put in a complaint against the clinic there?
Hi thank you again, I have sent Healthcare Improvement Scotland a long letter detailing everything about our daughter's case, and about the lack of communication from Waterside and also that they declined to fill in the Genspect survey.
Please do the same by all means if you can. I've sent you a private message, the author of the Genspect survey would be interested to speak to you too about your son's story if you like?
Hi PapaBean, I can’t see the private message! I’m not very used to Substack, I have sent you a message so if I you can see it please reply, I’d love to speak to the survey author.
I’m so glad you pushed back and hopefully she’s through it now. Our son also had dealings with the waterside clinic, evil place. He was also affirmed after one appointment and my background information ignored. I asked them to address specific health concerns for a young male taking female hormones. Initially they said they would respond (though I would have to pay); however when I emailed my questions they blanked me. He was already on hormones bought online, they preferred to sell him direct and were happy to arrange another 2 appointments to get the GRC arranged. We managed to stall the process there, but he is still injecting hormones obtained online. I will send them the genspect survey just to make sure they won’t see him again, and keep trying to encourage him out of this cult.
“She's never kissed a boy or a girl and doesn't even know which she prefers yet.”
Oh dear…
I feel for you, I really do. But it kinda sounds like you raised her in an atmosphere of “human sexuality being a buffet, just pick whatever you like!”
Is it any wonder that she later extends that “Yeah, you just do whatever man!” to her gender as well?
And her school draped with rainbow and tranny flags… Gee, I wonder what effect that might have had.
I know it’s not always that easy, but if you see this kind of stuff in your kids school, turn around, leave and look for other options.
If I had a dollar for every time I read a story where the parents enroll their kids in a school that lays on the LGBT stuff thick, and afterwards do a SURPRISE PIKACHU at their kid deciding they’re trans… Well, If have enough for a decent binder.
Wow talk about blame & shame!! So are you saying we should be FORC ING our kids into heterosexuality?!?! How on earth is this helpful!! We don’t want our kids to harm themselves but we’re not homophobes.
The parents have to choose carefully how a child is educated. That includes which school a child is allowed to attend. That is not homophobia, it is being responsible.
I apologize I didn’t realize what you were getting at. Somewhere between Gen X needing parental permission to watch the sex ed film in 5th grade & the internet the adults in charge lost their minds. Sexuality is a normal part of growing up but forcing all of this stuff on kindergartners is INSANE. I have my theories where it’s coming from but it sounds nuts very dark & very conspiracy nut!!
Thank you so much for your kind and considered reply.
I hate to imagine what your response would have been if we hadn't just been fighting tooth and nail to save our daughter from the gender clinic. But thank you all the same.
We're not homophobic, no. Sorry to disappoint you. Some of the staunchest anti-trans activists are from the gay community which they have been ousted from by the gender trenders. LGB without the T is their motto, one we fully support, and plenty of gay people support us and our fight to protect our kids from the trans cult.
Also we're in Scotland, and we're working class. We don't enrol the kids in school here, they go to the nearest high school, and if its not obvious already we're very much against all the trans bollocks in schools. That alright for you?
If it turns out our daughter is gay after all maybe I can message you back and get the number of your exorcist?
just a word of caution: I did something similar when my adult-child with mental health challenges started to trans-ID and then to medicalize. This is in the USA where there is a supposed right to supply information to doctors even if the child is an adult. What this earned me was two things: first the clinic immediately gave my letter of concern to my child. ... this letter was meant to be confidential to the doctors and cited HIPAA which allows confidential family communication to doctors to preserve family relations. Well, the doctors did not respect that confidentiality and this created a huge difficulty for my child & hence for myself. Second, working from this disclosed confidential letter, my child then sued to get a "protective order" against me. ....So, this is a word of caution for those in the USA.
I am sorry to hear this. As we did the same thing before Genspect, we do not really know yet how our info was handled on the doctor/ butcher side. From the insurance company though we got special person and a file made. This go between asked us to stop copying everyone on our correspondence which we did not. The drugs are so easy to come by in the US and the surgeries not a whole lot harder. May your child see the truth and reconnect.
I am so sorry to hear this. Is this still the case in USA law? I have been keeping an eye on things but obviously its a lot closer to home for you. I did find this encouraging to read. I hope things work out well for you and your family and the US leads the way in dealing with these so called doctors who harm children
Wow. So happy for you. We need these stories of hope. It sickens me to think of how they have tried to break our children, making them so fragile that they are afraid to write their birth names because they've been convinced it's trauma. May God fix this evil.
Thank you, Genspect and everyone from our family and extended family, we are blessed to have your help with this, our wee girl will thank you one day too, I promise
For sure. When the gender cult topples, which it will, the lawsuits will surely follow. These monsters belong in prison, or in the case of Dr Teetus Deletus, in a state mental hospital. I hope the FBI are good to their word hunting down these evil people
Thank you! So hopeful! My 19-year old daughter is at her college orientation today (figuring out her autism took her a year after HS as the diagnosis came at 16).
My daughter’s autism diagnosis also came at 16. On her 16th birthday it arrived by post addressed to her (not to parents). She opened it and read it alone in her room. I found her devastated. She refused to accept the diagnosis. I made a formal complaint about the way the assessment was done. She found the trans cult.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Autism is a gift, not a tragedy. People like your daughter are the ones who advance humanity. If not for them, the rockets that go into space and launch the satellites that the world uses to communicate and allow us to have this conversation right now, they would never have existed. They built this modern world we live in. Your daughter is one of these amazing people, so is our daughter. She found the trans cult too, please download the Genspect survey and let her read it, look at all the side effects, its really thorough and pulls no punches with the questions it asks. I hope she realises the trans cult are not her friends. Love to you and your family
I agree that autism is a gift. The evil transgender cult is dragging gifted youth into being sterilised. My daughter said she did not want to “pass on her autism genes”. She estranged me. I heard recently she had surgery. Pain is deep. I want to use my anger to warn other girls that changing gender not the answer.
I don’t believe autism is genetic. As Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has said in multiple speeches, in his generation autism was rare. The rate of autism has been increasing year by year for decades. He declares it must be something in the environment, and that includes the kinds and quantity of foods and water we consume, the pollution where we live, the introduction of electronics, our sleep and exercise.
You cannot say our whole population is genetically different from 100 years ago. Human evolution is slow. We essentially have the same genes as our ancestors in previous centuries. Therefore the rise of autism on an annual basis must be from something affecting us, but NOT genetic.
That’s why the american federal administration is looking at everything from food dyes to mercury poisoning and every other possibilty. They are hunting down the evidence.
I hear doctor’s say quite often “It’s genetic”
Diabetes? - “It’s genetic”
Heart attack - “It’s genetic”
Cancer - “It’s genetic”
All these things are going up and up but our genes have not changed. “It’s genetic” is what doctors say to hide their ignorance and what patients say when they realize their doctors are not really saving them.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I wish we had had Genspect (and PITT) when my then 18 year old son was lost to the cult 11 years ago. Pushing back at that time was impossible. It is so encouraging to see that things are finally changing for the good.
Hello, please if you can get a copy of the Genspect survey to the gender clinic, no matter how far down the path he's got, let them know all eyes are on them. get all of your concerned family, friends, concerned strangers even, and CC them in when you send the survey to the clinic. I hope things work out for you and your family and your son, love to you all
The people working at that clinic need to be called out, exposed for what they tried to do. Not just the doctors but the support staff too. They need to be made pariah's in the community.
Thank you, yes they do, and we will do everything we can to make it happen.
Best wishes to you and your family
Too much testosterone doesn't just wreck female bodies, it destroys female brains too. And some things that get broken can't be fixed. https://lucyleader.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-testosterone-on-the
Thank you, Robin for sharing this. I will show this to my daughter. We want to make sure she keeps on this path, you never know what's round the corner so things like this are great to make her stop and think. Thank you bless you
This is a cult. You and all the people who care about you and your family have just saved your daughter from a cult. They prey on the lonely and isolated and unprotected. You showed up for your daughter and they did indeed retract their claws. Predators target the weak so they will move along to the next potential victim. I cannot express how relieved I am for you and yours—Godspeed.
@Eleanor Leech i am not very familiar with Substack, but send you a DM. I can help parents who are in a fight with the clinic. My friend Beano Jameson tipped me to contact you.
I hope we can work together on this, I have emailed you, I’m also not used to communicating via Substack!
Thank you, bless you and your family.
Hopefully we can stop them from even reaching the next potential victim.
https://www.thoughtfultherapists.org/
Thank heavens you found someone on your side.
Yes, thank heavens for sure. There are good people in the world, they may get drowned out by the shrieking of the gender trenders, but we find them, or they find us.
Love to you and your family
And being in the US they’re able to walk into planned parenthood sign a paper & get hormones even as minors people are shocked when I tell them this. So corrupt. My kid is gonna blame me for everything anyway so I’m damned if I do or don’t.
I thought the new administration was going to wipe the floor with these gender clinic monsters? They need to be good to their word.
Your daughter will realise that you've always been there for her. She sounds like our daughter, wouldn't listen to us and went behind our backs. If the clinic hadn't sent the letter to our house blowing the whistle on themselves, we would be telling the exact same story as you right now.
That letter to the surgeon you were going to send, please do it. And send them the Genspect survey, tell them to fill it out, I bet you they decline. They'll be too scared to sign it.
They need a reckoning, they need to pay for what they are doing to children
My 25 year old daughter fits this situation perfectly but she has been on hormones several years already & had a mastectomy last year. I wish I had seen this years ago. I had thought about sending a letter to the surgeon threatening him with legal action based on her extensive psychological history. Now I am very sad I did not. But my daughter would have hated me for it. She cannot see clearly & never listened to us anyway. Heartbroken.
So sorry to hear this about your daughter. The Genspect survey is very new, it was created by a very good soul who shares your same heartache. Please if you can download it, maybe read it with your daughter as it lists all the things she may not know about. And DEFINITELY send it to the surgeon, ask them to fill in their relevant sections, but remember, make sure they know all eyes are on them, and CC in Genspect so the surgeon knows there are proper medical professionals with an interest in your daughter's well being. Good luck with it and love to your family and to your daughter, I hope things turn brighter for all of you x
Unfortunately she’s already had her surgery. She is truly a cult member she has an answer for every objection. She has rewritten her entire childhood to fit the narrative along with her ongoing victim schtick. She is the one that has become abusive & she wants to “repair our relationship “ as she demands that I “take accountability for her trauma”. I hate to sound unserious but I JUST CANNOT EVEN with all this self indulgent clap trap!!
Eleanor, thank you for sharing this and also for sharing the details about Healthcare Improvement Scotland. I will indeed put in a complaint to them and will send them everything about our daughter's experience with the clinic.
I'll keep you in the loop. if you are going to send them the survey please do what we did, and make sure they know Genspect are in the loop, as well as Healthcare Improvement Scotland and as many other concerned family and friends you can. I'm happy to add my name to your list too, if so can we private message on here? I will give you my contact details.
When you print off the Genspect survey let your young lad read all of the side effects listed in the questionnaire. I hope it might help, but happy to help in any way I can. Love to you and all your family and best wishes to you all, especially your young lad
Just looking up Waterside again, they are regulated by Healthcare Improvement Scotland, did you (or would you) put in a complaint against the clinic there?
Their email is his.ihcregulation@nhs.scot
Hi thank you again, I have sent Healthcare Improvement Scotland a long letter detailing everything about our daughter's case, and about the lack of communication from Waterside and also that they declined to fill in the Genspect survey.
Please do the same by all means if you can. I've sent you a private message, the author of the Genspect survey would be interested to speak to you too about your son's story if you like?
Hi PapaBean, I can’t see the private message! I’m not very used to Substack, I have sent you a message so if I you can see it please reply, I’d love to speak to the survey author.
I’m so glad you pushed back and hopefully she’s through it now. Our son also had dealings with the waterside clinic, evil place. He was also affirmed after one appointment and my background information ignored. I asked them to address specific health concerns for a young male taking female hormones. Initially they said they would respond (though I would have to pay); however when I emailed my questions they blanked me. He was already on hormones bought online, they preferred to sell him direct and were happy to arrange another 2 appointments to get the GRC arranged. We managed to stall the process there, but he is still injecting hormones obtained online. I will send them the genspect survey just to make sure they won’t see him again, and keep trying to encourage him out of this cult.
“She's never kissed a boy or a girl and doesn't even know which she prefers yet.”
Oh dear…
I feel for you, I really do. But it kinda sounds like you raised her in an atmosphere of “human sexuality being a buffet, just pick whatever you like!”
Is it any wonder that she later extends that “Yeah, you just do whatever man!” to her gender as well?
And her school draped with rainbow and tranny flags… Gee, I wonder what effect that might have had.
I know it’s not always that easy, but if you see this kind of stuff in your kids school, turn around, leave and look for other options.
If I had a dollar for every time I read a story where the parents enroll their kids in a school that lays on the LGBT stuff thick, and afterwards do a SURPRISE PIKACHU at their kid deciding they’re trans… Well, If have enough for a decent binder.
Wow talk about blame & shame!! So are you saying we should be FORC ING our kids into heterosexuality?!?! How on earth is this helpful!! We don’t want our kids to harm themselves but we’re not homophobes.
I’m saying that if you present sexuality as a buffet of options, it’s no wonder that some kids extend that their gender as well.
Especially if they’re in an environment with plenty of LGBT propaganda.
The parents have to choose carefully how a child is educated. That includes which school a child is allowed to attend. That is not homophobia, it is being responsible.
I apologize I didn’t realize what you were getting at. Somewhere between Gen X needing parental permission to watch the sex ed film in 5th grade & the internet the adults in charge lost their minds. Sexuality is a normal part of growing up but forcing all of this stuff on kindergartners is INSANE. I have my theories where it’s coming from but it sounds nuts very dark & very conspiracy nut!!
Thank you so much for your kind and considered reply.
I hate to imagine what your response would have been if we hadn't just been fighting tooth and nail to save our daughter from the gender clinic. But thank you all the same.
We're not homophobic, no. Sorry to disappoint you. Some of the staunchest anti-trans activists are from the gay community which they have been ousted from by the gender trenders. LGB without the T is their motto, one we fully support, and plenty of gay people support us and our fight to protect our kids from the trans cult.
Also we're in Scotland, and we're working class. We don't enrol the kids in school here, they go to the nearest high school, and if its not obvious already we're very much against all the trans bollocks in schools. That alright for you?
If it turns out our daughter is gay after all maybe I can message you back and get the number of your exorcist?
Cheers again
just a word of caution: I did something similar when my adult-child with mental health challenges started to trans-ID and then to medicalize. This is in the USA where there is a supposed right to supply information to doctors even if the child is an adult. What this earned me was two things: first the clinic immediately gave my letter of concern to my child. ... this letter was meant to be confidential to the doctors and cited HIPAA which allows confidential family communication to doctors to preserve family relations. Well, the doctors did not respect that confidentiality and this created a huge difficulty for my child & hence for myself. Second, working from this disclosed confidential letter, my child then sued to get a "protective order" against me. ....So, this is a word of caution for those in the USA.
I am sorry to hear this. As we did the same thing before Genspect, we do not really know yet how our info was handled on the doctor/ butcher side. From the insurance company though we got special person and a file made. This go between asked us to stop copying everyone on our correspondence which we did not. The drugs are so easy to come by in the US and the surgeries not a whole lot harder. May your child see the truth and reconnect.
I am so sorry to hear this. Is this still the case in USA law? I have been keeping an eye on things but obviously its a lot closer to home for you. I did find this encouraging to read. I hope things work out well for you and your family and the US leads the way in dealing with these so called doctors who harm children
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/03/politics/fbi-gender-affirming-care-minors
I would love to sue those doctors who failed to respect the letter's confidential nature. The fall out has been immense.
Wow. So happy for you. We need these stories of hope. It sickens me to think of how they have tried to break our children, making them so fragile that they are afraid to write their birth names because they've been convinced it's trauma. May God fix this evil.
Thank you so much, I hope we live to see the end of this gender cult in our lifetime, love to you and your family
Thank you for sharing your story of hope! So thankful for the Genspect survey and its impact.
May your beautiful daughter continue to grow in confidence as a strong young woman. God bless you and your family.
Thank you, Genspect and everyone from our family and extended family, we are blessed to have your help with this, our wee girl will thank you one day too, I promise
Very inspiring story. These mutilating hospitals need to get the fear of lawsuits to stop their profitable work.
For sure. When the gender cult topples, which it will, the lawsuits will surely follow. These monsters belong in prison, or in the case of Dr Teetus Deletus, in a state mental hospital. I hope the FBI are good to their word hunting down these evil people
Thank you! So hopeful! My 19-year old daughter is at her college orientation today (figuring out her autism took her a year after HS as the diagnosis came at 16).
My daughter’s autism diagnosis also came at 16. On her 16th birthday it arrived by post addressed to her (not to parents). She opened it and read it alone in her room. I found her devastated. She refused to accept the diagnosis. I made a formal complaint about the way the assessment was done. She found the trans cult.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Autism is a gift, not a tragedy. People like your daughter are the ones who advance humanity. If not for them, the rockets that go into space and launch the satellites that the world uses to communicate and allow us to have this conversation right now, they would never have existed. They built this modern world we live in. Your daughter is one of these amazing people, so is our daughter. She found the trans cult too, please download the Genspect survey and let her read it, look at all the side effects, its really thorough and pulls no punches with the questions it asks. I hope she realises the trans cult are not her friends. Love to you and your family
I agree that autism is a gift. The evil transgender cult is dragging gifted youth into being sterilised. My daughter said she did not want to “pass on her autism genes”. She estranged me. I heard recently she had surgery. Pain is deep. I want to use my anger to warn other girls that changing gender not the answer.
I don’t believe autism is genetic. As Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has said in multiple speeches, in his generation autism was rare. The rate of autism has been increasing year by year for decades. He declares it must be something in the environment, and that includes the kinds and quantity of foods and water we consume, the pollution where we live, the introduction of electronics, our sleep and exercise.
You cannot say our whole population is genetically different from 100 years ago. Human evolution is slow. We essentially have the same genes as our ancestors in previous centuries. Therefore the rise of autism on an annual basis must be from something affecting us, but NOT genetic.
That’s why the american federal administration is looking at everything from food dyes to mercury poisoning and every other possibilty. They are hunting down the evidence.
I hear doctor’s say quite often “It’s genetic”
Diabetes? - “It’s genetic”
Heart attack - “It’s genetic”
Cancer - “It’s genetic”
All these things are going up and up but our genes have not changed. “It’s genetic” is what doctors say to hide their ignorance and what patients say when they realize their doctors are not really saving them.
So sorry. Love to you and your family x
Anger is an energy. Use it. Its kept me going these past few years.
Make these people who harm children pay for everything they have done.
Bless you and love to your family x
Thank you so much for sharing this. I wish we had had Genspect (and PITT) when my then 18 year old son was lost to the cult 11 years ago. Pushing back at that time was impossible. It is so encouraging to see that things are finally changing for the good.
Hello, please if you can get a copy of the Genspect survey to the gender clinic, no matter how far down the path he's got, let them know all eyes are on them. get all of your concerned family, friends, concerned strangers even, and CC them in when you send the survey to the clinic. I hope things work out for you and your family and your son, love to you all
https://genspect.org/resources/gender-dysphoria-support-tool/