If my use of the word 'abnormal" offends you, that's your phobia. As a journalist, I'm sure you have a plethora of synonyms. I'll try "unusual" or "extraordinary" just for you.
You are speaking out based upon your own life experiences and are being very judgmental in my opinion. You have no idea as to the dynamics of my relationship with my grandchildren. I welcome debates and am willing to do so. My comment about gayness refers to the fact that it is being pedaled through social media and movies as normal for confused, heterosexual children. Social media is not restricted in my daughter's home and the focus on how the world embraces, celebrates, and favors homosexuality over heterosexuality is powerfully tauted. Young children are groomed in school to embrace their sexuality by any means.
Be honest. The only way to not offend them is to go along with whatever, enabling it and agree with whatever they say.
You arenтАЩt giving suggestions without bias. You are operating from your own bias. If you canтАЩt give suggestions without bias youтАЩre just adding to the problem not a solution.
My wager is that her daughter (the mom) would be against her own mother based on her politics alone. When family members disagree on such topics my advice would be not to bring it up at all and instead focus on being a family for each other which is the actual reality they have, not what is on TV, not what strangers including government officials are doing and saying elsewhere in the world.
Why not go тАШhelpтАЩ such people like LindaтАЩs daughter to figure out how destructive shunning their own family is over politics? Linda isnтАЩt doing this based on her comments. Based on her comments she loves them regardless.
Compromise is needed. Not compromising her own ethics and beliefs but compromise such as not engaging in conversations about politics as well as the other topics since they are digging their heels in. Compromise and patience.
Linda can develop ways to be a positive healthy influence without expressing her opinions (takes strength) so as to be there once the house of cards starts falling down if and when it does.
If you arenтАЩt helping with coping skills and emotional strategy you are just casting judgment and calling it тАШhelpтАЩ.
What about CONSENT which doesnтАЩt seem to factor in for you. If someone hasnтАЩt requested your тАШhelpтАЩ who are you to be pushing it on them? No wonder you donтАЩt recognize the undue influence being pushed upon young minds. You must think of it as тАШhelpingтАЩ them?
From what IтАЩve observed here of you- you arenтАЩt the wise empathetic I wager you think of yourself. You donтАЩt appear to have the ability to empathize with people who have alternate beliefs from your own.
Why even be here commenting other than to agitate and judge? (That which you accuse others of doing which makes you at best a hypocrite).
Are you a sadist? Here to rub it in? Punish people for what you consider to be wrong think? Otherwise I donтАЩt see what benefit there is to what you contribute.
I realize my lifestyle (polyamorous pansexual among other things I wonтАЩt describe here) wouldnтАЩt be what some if not many here would approve of, but regardless I can see that young people are being emotionally/mentally manipulated/influenced into thinking things that are not true let alone healthy for them.
There IS reason for parents to be very concerned over what is happening to their children. Folks may not go about it in the best way not knowing what to do, but wanting to protect and fight for their loved ones is the right response.
When my 12 year old came home from school one day declaring she was pansexual I was floored. Despite my being pansexual I had never exposed her to that word or the behaviors which are defined by that word wanting her to develop free of influence- just to have her school expose her to it. When I asked her what the word meant she stated тАЬit means I am able to love people no matter what their body isтАЭ. But this isnтАЩt exactly what that word means. Not if we are being HONEST.
She is an awesome young person who loves people regardless of gender, ethnicity etc., so in her impressionable mind it fit, but she had no understanding of sexuality. Pansexual means that you have sex with people regardless of their sex being male, female or something in between. ItтАЩs not a word used to describe someone who has platonic love for their fellow human beings as my daughter wrongly thought at that time. She was taught a word but wasnтАЩt taught the accurate definition of the word. This is deceptive, dishonest.
I have consciously worked to assist my daughter in developing her thinking to be able to discern and scrutinize. I guide and protect, I established BOUNDARIES OF APPROPRIATENESS but I donтАЩt tell her what to think. I want her to think for herself.
I told her the correct definition of the word at age 12 because the circumstance called for it. She immediately realized that she couldnтАЩt say she was pansexual nor could she say she wasnтАЩt- being TWELVE years old with no life experience to attach it to.
It was the тАЬgay clubтАЭ she had attended at school (doing so in support of another 12 year old friend who claimed to be non binary) exposed her to the word. I have much to say about the тАЬgay clubтАЭ but this reply is already long.
Now she is 17 and none too pleased about what she herself looks back upon and recognizes as undue influence she experienced when younger at school.
If my daughter is gay or bisexual or pansexual, I have no qualms whatsoever about it- but I certainly want it to be rooted in what is true and genuine, not because itтАЩs what all the kids are doing, not because of social media trends, not because it makes her feel included, but because itтАЩs actually who she is.
Already we now have many young people who wrongly think/thought they were trans thanks to many outer influences these children are exposed to, who are now detransitioning. Many of them have altered their bodies permanently. ItтАЩs confusion that they were experiencing which was exploited while being guided into further confusion by adults who are unfit to guide anyone let alone children. I expect there to be many more sadly.
These children are NOT acceptable collateral damage.
You are talking to a person who is not heterosexual as if I donтАЩt know what itтАЩs like. I grew up during a time when youтАЩd guaranteed get beaten up for being gay. I myself was attacked and threatened. But frankly IтАЩm VERY glad I was a pansexual teen at that time and not now. I likely would have wrongly believed I was trans and wouldтАЩve had people ushering me into transition. It would have been wrong just as it is wrong for so many today who are being led like a pied piper by the medical transition INDUSTRY and all of its army of enablers.
Linda may or may not be going about it in the best way, but her instinct is likely right on the mark.
You have a lot to say about what Linda should be doing, but your comments conspicuously donтАЩt include the responsibility of her daughter in the equation. As if Linda is the only one here who should be changing behaviors.
Cults divide people from their family for a reason. CanтАЩt have family members influencing them away from the cult. ItтАЩs worse than a cult when the government and medical establishment is involved.
I took my daughter to the ER two years back when she complained of pain in her side. The first thing the ER doctor did was ask me to leave the room. I hesitated but did so knowing my daughter would tell me everything anyway. I now wish I wouldnтАЩt have. I knew exactly why.
The Doctor asked if she was abused or in danger (ok I can see where in some cases this would be a good thing) but the doctor also asked her about her sexuality, if she had experienced sex, asked about her gender how she identified.
My daughter was angry and rightfully so. None of that was any of their business which is what my daughter felt and stated to me immediately upon coming back into the room. What did any of that have to do with the ovarian cyst she would be diagnosed with that day? NOTHING.
It is intrusion. It is a violation. It is entitlement, arrogant, It is undue influence. It is WRONG.
After a lifelong support of LGBT, after participating in activism for decades on behalf of LGBT rights, I can no longer stand in alignment. This is something else going on. This is insidious. All those years I argued against the assertion тАЬthey want the childrenтАЭ I now see children being enthusiastically targeted and indoctrinated. ItтАЩs not about making sure LGBT kids are safe. ThatтАЩs the effective RUSE. It should have been. But this is something else. This is hurting children but the adults involved refuse to acknowledge it. ItтАЩs SICK. This is a very sick world.
Even before I was- my daughter (who does appear to be pansexual now that she has had a measure of life experience to herself determine this, though itтАЩs NOT a central feature of her life) is very angry at the тАЬLGBT communityтАЭ as she can see for herself how profoundly flawed and unhealthy it is.
Good for you!! I'm so proud of you!!! Go forth and conquer, Tiger! Every art loving gay democrat I've ever met is very opinionated, judgmental, and agitating. You need to smile more. In all your pictures on Facebook, you always look so sad.....
If my use of the word 'abnormal" offends you, that's your phobia. As a journalist, I'm sure you have a plethora of synonyms. I'll try "unusual" or "extraordinary" just for you.
You are speaking out based upon your own life experiences and are being very judgmental in my opinion. You have no idea as to the dynamics of my relationship with my grandchildren. I welcome debates and am willing to do so. My comment about gayness refers to the fact that it is being pedaled through social media and movies as normal for confused, heterosexual children. Social media is not restricted in my daughter's home and the focus on how the world embraces, celebrates, and favors homosexuality over heterosexuality is powerfully tauted. Young children are groomed in school to embrace their sexuality by any means.
WhatтАЩs the point of your comments to Linda?
Be honest. The only way to not offend them is to go along with whatever, enabling it and agree with whatever they say.
You arenтАЩt giving suggestions without bias. You are operating from your own bias. If you canтАЩt give suggestions without bias youтАЩre just adding to the problem not a solution.
My wager is that her daughter (the mom) would be against her own mother based on her politics alone. When family members disagree on such topics my advice would be not to bring it up at all and instead focus on being a family for each other which is the actual reality they have, not what is on TV, not what strangers including government officials are doing and saying elsewhere in the world.
Why not go тАШhelpтАЩ such people like LindaтАЩs daughter to figure out how destructive shunning their own family is over politics? Linda isnтАЩt doing this based on her comments. Based on her comments she loves them regardless.
Compromise is needed. Not compromising her own ethics and beliefs but compromise such as not engaging in conversations about politics as well as the other topics since they are digging their heels in. Compromise and patience.
Linda can develop ways to be a positive healthy influence without expressing her opinions (takes strength) so as to be there once the house of cards starts falling down if and when it does.
If you arenтАЩt helping with coping skills and emotional strategy you are just casting judgment and calling it тАШhelpтАЩ.
What about CONSENT which doesnтАЩt seem to factor in for you. If someone hasnтАЩt requested your тАШhelpтАЩ who are you to be pushing it on them? No wonder you donтАЩt recognize the undue influence being pushed upon young minds. You must think of it as тАШhelpingтАЩ them?
You are entitled to your opinion which is twisting my words to fit your narrative. Enjoy your life.
From what IтАЩve observed here of you- you arenтАЩt the wise empathetic I wager you think of yourself. You donтАЩt appear to have the ability to empathize with people who have alternate beliefs from your own.
Why even be here commenting other than to agitate and judge? (That which you accuse others of doing which makes you at best a hypocrite).
Are you a sadist? Here to rub it in? Punish people for what you consider to be wrong think? Otherwise I donтАЩt see what benefit there is to what you contribute.
I realize my lifestyle (polyamorous pansexual among other things I wonтАЩt describe here) wouldnтАЩt be what some if not many here would approve of, but regardless I can see that young people are being emotionally/mentally manipulated/influenced into thinking things that are not true let alone healthy for them.
There IS reason for parents to be very concerned over what is happening to their children. Folks may not go about it in the best way not knowing what to do, but wanting to protect and fight for their loved ones is the right response.
When my 12 year old came home from school one day declaring she was pansexual I was floored. Despite my being pansexual I had never exposed her to that word or the behaviors which are defined by that word wanting her to develop free of influence- just to have her school expose her to it. When I asked her what the word meant she stated тАЬit means I am able to love people no matter what their body isтАЭ. But this isnтАЩt exactly what that word means. Not if we are being HONEST.
She is an awesome young person who loves people regardless of gender, ethnicity etc., so in her impressionable mind it fit, but she had no understanding of sexuality. Pansexual means that you have sex with people regardless of their sex being male, female or something in between. ItтАЩs not a word used to describe someone who has platonic love for their fellow human beings as my daughter wrongly thought at that time. She was taught a word but wasnтАЩt taught the accurate definition of the word. This is deceptive, dishonest.
I have consciously worked to assist my daughter in developing her thinking to be able to discern and scrutinize. I guide and protect, I established BOUNDARIES OF APPROPRIATENESS but I donтАЩt tell her what to think. I want her to think for herself.
I told her the correct definition of the word at age 12 because the circumstance called for it. She immediately realized that she couldnтАЩt say she was pansexual nor could she say she wasnтАЩt- being TWELVE years old with no life experience to attach it to.
It was the тАЬgay clubтАЭ she had attended at school (doing so in support of another 12 year old friend who claimed to be non binary) exposed her to the word. I have much to say about the тАЬgay clubтАЭ but this reply is already long.
Now she is 17 and none too pleased about what she herself looks back upon and recognizes as undue influence she experienced when younger at school.
If my daughter is gay or bisexual or pansexual, I have no qualms whatsoever about it- but I certainly want it to be rooted in what is true and genuine, not because itтАЩs what all the kids are doing, not because of social media trends, not because it makes her feel included, but because itтАЩs actually who she is.
Already we now have many young people who wrongly think/thought they were trans thanks to many outer influences these children are exposed to, who are now detransitioning. Many of them have altered their bodies permanently. ItтАЩs confusion that they were experiencing which was exploited while being guided into further confusion by adults who are unfit to guide anyone let alone children. I expect there to be many more sadly.
These children are NOT acceptable collateral damage.
Linda is damn right to be concerned.
You are talking to a person who is not heterosexual as if I donтАЩt know what itтАЩs like. I grew up during a time when youтАЩd guaranteed get beaten up for being gay. I myself was attacked and threatened. But frankly IтАЩm VERY glad I was a pansexual teen at that time and not now. I likely would have wrongly believed I was trans and wouldтАЩve had people ushering me into transition. It would have been wrong just as it is wrong for so many today who are being led like a pied piper by the medical transition INDUSTRY and all of its army of enablers.
Linda may or may not be going about it in the best way, but her instinct is likely right on the mark.
You have a lot to say about what Linda should be doing, but your comments conspicuously donтАЩt include the responsibility of her daughter in the equation. As if Linda is the only one here who should be changing behaviors.
Cults divide people from their family for a reason. CanтАЩt have family members influencing them away from the cult. ItтАЩs worse than a cult when the government and medical establishment is involved.
I took my daughter to the ER two years back when she complained of pain in her side. The first thing the ER doctor did was ask me to leave the room. I hesitated but did so knowing my daughter would tell me everything anyway. I now wish I wouldnтАЩt have. I knew exactly why.
The Doctor asked if she was abused or in danger (ok I can see where in some cases this would be a good thing) but the doctor also asked her about her sexuality, if she had experienced sex, asked about her gender how she identified.
My daughter was angry and rightfully so. None of that was any of their business which is what my daughter felt and stated to me immediately upon coming back into the room. What did any of that have to do with the ovarian cyst she would be diagnosed with that day? NOTHING.
It is intrusion. It is a violation. It is entitlement, arrogant, It is undue influence. It is WRONG.
After a lifelong support of LGBT, after participating in activism for decades on behalf of LGBT rights, I can no longer stand in alignment. This is something else going on. This is insidious. All those years I argued against the assertion тАЬthey want the childrenтАЭ I now see children being enthusiastically targeted and indoctrinated. ItтАЩs not about making sure LGBT kids are safe. ThatтАЩs the effective RUSE. It should have been. But this is something else. This is hurting children but the adults involved refuse to acknowledge it. ItтАЩs SICK. This is a very sick world.
Even before I was- my daughter (who does appear to be pansexual now that she has had a measure of life experience to herself determine this, though itтАЩs NOT a central feature of her life) is very angry at the тАЬLGBT communityтАЭ as she can see for herself how profoundly flawed and unhealthy it is.
Good for you!! I'm so proud of you!!! Go forth and conquer, Tiger! Every art loving gay democrat I've ever met is very opinionated, judgmental, and agitating. You need to smile more. In all your pictures on Facebook, you always look so sad.....