Your sarcasm is hitting home; it’s painful. I could say these to my daughter and as smart as she is, she’ll catch on real quick! And she’ll know I’ll be lying through my face.
You know what? Stick to your guns. Don't compromise. Someday she is going to come around and you are going to be waiting with open arms. No "I told you so's" just, "What do we need to do now?" The fog of INSANITY is going to lift and she will see that YOU had her best interest in mind THE WHOLE TIME. Not her "glitter family", not her girlfriend/boyfriend, whack-job doctor, nutso therapist, and so called "friends" who will desert her when she decides this was a huge mistake. This is NOT the letter she will want then. YOU. ARE. RIGHT. Standing with you, along with all the other parents whose kids are in the cult. 💗
Your letter speaks volumes to all of us but will most likely fall on “deaf ears” to your confused trans believing daughter. In fact, it would not be well received by anyone caught up in this evil cult. Your sarcastic writing was on point and any logical person will see the nonsense that this trans ideology is portraying. Very sad. Your situation is a difficult one to be in but here on this sub stack we all understand. Broken children, broken homes, broken relationships. I hope your daughter will find the truth but she will never be the same if she continues down the rabbit hole. Wishing you peace.
I still don't get the whole "I'm not a woman; I'm a gay man" thing---that just makes zero sense. If you are a girl who likes boys, that's what most of us call normal! It's a sickness for sure, and the same zealots who push climate change and anti-capitalism are the same who want to eliminate the family as it has existed since the beginning of time. But then again, what do I know?
Oh darn. I'm afraid that if sent it would not work. I'd amputate a leg to have my kid be rational about this. But you can't reason a person out of something he or she wasn't reasoned into in the first place. He's my kid. I'd take a bullet for him. But he thinks remembering when he chased insects or trucks or so on is evil. Dude, you're on the spectrum. Your social anxiety is because of that, not because my wife and I had a child with a female soul and a male body.
I am heart-broken for what you and your daughter have gone through. Our society has marginalized parent and the wisdom of our elders. Parents should home school their kids, pick their friends, teach their children about God, and not allow them to surf the web or use social media.
Religious teachings that call LGB youth an abomination and shame them for their innate attraction to the same sex is why some kids feel the need to try to transition to the opposite sex. Research indicates many of these kids will grow up to be same sex attracted. I believe teaching them religion won’t help. More schooling in ethics to guide them, perhaps. No question we need to get Gender Ideology out of schools and higher education. Replacing it with religious doctrine won’t help - Western societies have a separation of church and state for a reason.
Not realistic in today’s digital world of business and commerce that we don’t allow youth to use the internet. Picking their friends and shielding them from social interaction with peers will equally harm them.
I believe we must all rise together (regardless of our spiritual or political affiliations) and demand social media companies protect children, demand our schools stop indoctrinating children into what appears to be a religious cult and demand our governments stop allowing the medicalization of vulnerable and troubled youth.
Not all religious teaching is fire and brimstone. For example, honor your mother and father, do not bear false witness, do unto others as you would have them do unto you . Do not murder.
You do have to realize that what you’re facing with secular progressivism is every bit as condemning and moralizing as any religion on earth. In fact, it is a religion. For example, there is no scientific evidence that, based on a feeling, biological females should be surgically and chemically altered to be biological males and vice versa. It’s a belief. it’s irrational, and it’s very harmful to young people. Look at the suicide rates. The left preaches inclusion but they are intolerant of any beliefs but their own.
We know all religion is not fire and brimstone. I agree - this movement is as condemning and moralizing as any religion. In my view, it’s worse than most of the more extreme religions because it not only disputes science and attacks women’s rights but it seeks to destroy families and
Not all left leaning people are intolerant. This is not a republican vs democratic or religious vs agnostic/atheist issue, despite how it has been politicized. These are crimes against humanity and for that we should all be on our feet and taking action to stop it.
Leftism is a religion. Trans ideology is one of their doctrines. Surgeries, hormones, pronouns, protests, being an ally -- all of these things are religious rites.
Well, perhaps you (quite reasonably) wouldn't send such a letter, but you DID write it, and wrote it brilliantly.
The logic you present so ironically would simply result in senior cult members condemning you to your daughter, and she would otherwise elide any portion of that logical expression that prompted thoughtful inquiry and evaluation.
That said, I would appreciate your permission to reproduce and distribute the text of your unsent missive.
I've written a similar letter and looking back it was filled with utter rage. Understandably 100%. But on having some time pass, had I sent it, it def would have sealed our estrangement for a long time to come. For now, I'm sitting tight and OH boy, that is a bitch of a challenge!
I did not affirm and in fact did all I was "permitted" to do, including weep in total despair but much of it was not shared with her. The bit I did blurt out and text her was out of sheer desperation to share the reality of medical harm in what I was researching and even those few exchanges were intense and too much for her at the time.
On script, she cut off any in person visits for many months and barely texted a word to me. She went ahead (even tho I suggested a simple pause), and had surgery with the encouragement of "professionals, allies, friends, girlfriend (theyfriend)", who was also on T earlier on but now that my kid was taking the leap, that took a back seat and "theyfriend" put all of their sadness with her own invisible mother as a focus on my kid's "maleness". Nowadays they (she) behaves more naturally "feminine" and my kid behaves more affected by T.
In retrospect, I should have listened and asked questions just a little more. Not that it would have changed anything except maybe she would be sharing more about her life like she was before this tragic experience swallowed her up and convinced her she was something different than who she was.
Personally, I wasn't given very much time to process this as they (those affected) tend to be ruminating over these ideas for months and even years. My notice was maybe 90 days. This shut down and cut off from dialogue, is/was from a very successful young adult, with a masters degree and several yrs time in a new job. She had no trouble meeting partners, landing jobs, was of a very confident nature, brilliant, funny and a severely, non depressed person ! Just to share, that's how strong this ideology truly is.. She also comes from a liberal background tho I have to say, she went to an extremely progressive college and later I learned that her mentor of 75 who also has a trans son in law, touted these "beliefs" and "even she was supportive". Suddenly I was plunged into bad guy role.
My advice, cut yourself a break. Keep writing but hold onto it for a long time. Maybe they will keep talking and ime, talking, listening and sharing is the only way out of this mess.
It seems to be a problem for the neurodiverse crowd and the youngsters. They don't hold onto the memories we remember as they have their own view of experiences which are deeply affected by their perceptions and world views. Seeing Scott Newgent's story and many others now, I think anyone can fall prey to wicked ideas when normalized.
One of the many aspects of trans I don’t get is the blind trust in big pharma and our profit-driven medical care system. Aren’t these the kind of influences kids who want to be different should naturally distrust? Big corporations who will be making money off of them for life? Back when I was a kid the counterculture movements were against Western medicine and sought alternative treatments.
Yes!!!! This is an INDUSTRY. There are GOBS of money to be made off of unhappy kids. These are the people who decry the evils of capitalism and they are offering up their bodies to be sacrificed to the idol of consumerism.
Have you heard about the Trevor Project? It is the epicenter of the the crowd of groomers who claim they'll be the new family. Also: www.newdiscourses.com/tag/nd-bullets
They need to be defunded, as do Human Rights Campaign, Stonewall, EGALE, GLAAD and other charities originally founded to safeguard gay and lesbians and advocate for our civil rights. I am actively calling for their defunding and removal of senior leadership as a lesbian and believe others should too. While once good organizations, I feel they have completely lost their way, have bought into Gender Ideology, have been taken over by “trans activists”
and have caused irreparable harm to society.
I recently saw Judy Shepard receive a presidential award and I found it heartbreaking that she aligns with these causes having had her son viciously murdered by homophobes. Matthew was gay, not trans. Had he lived in this era it is possible he might have been taken with the “trans” narrative. Who will ever know but I wanted to ask her if, as his mother, she would have affirmed his new identity or fought for her gay son to be accepted for who he was?
We should write her and ask her to read these posts. If anyone should be able relate to the outrage and grief of losing a child, I suspect she’s one of them.
I am deeply studied in the hate crime murders of over 300 people in North America who were LGB. The evidence in Matthew’s murder and the circumstances surrounding it are extremely well know. Please don’t dishonour his memory by trying to assert that what killed Matthew was drugs and not a pack of homophobic young men who pistol whipped him to death tied to a fucking fence. What a bunch of crap. Get your facts straight.
I am sorry you are not ready to hear the truth. It is you who needs to get your facts straight. If you have access to The Daily Wire, Candace Owens has some excellent information about the case. https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-untold-truth-of-the-matthew-shepard-story You may also want to check out the book by Steven Jimenez, The Book of Matt: Hidden Truths about the Murder of Matthew Shepard.
I am sorry you believe everything you read on the internet. See a problem with that? Isn’t that a huge part of the problem everyone has been talking about - people believing what they read online and lacking critical thinking skills?
Until you’ve taken the time to deeply research these hate crime cases, cull through court documents, read police reports and coroner’s reports to make your own informed opinion, what gives you the right to tell others who have to wake up and get informed? Any concept of how iron clad cases like this had to be for gay people to gain hate crimes legislation?
Perhaps a few PITT parents would like to blame the murder of LGB people on something other than what it was or blame “left leaning” people for what has happened to their children. Matthew and others were killed by other humans, the evidence was crystal clear in many cases and the underlying reason given by murderers in most of cases was because of their religious convictions. I can start quoting the murderers statements if you’d like and send you links to verify where this information came from.
Wonder why so many children turn away from their to find a new chosen family? In some cases, but certainly not all, it’s because they see how some of society still treats same sex attracted people, how religion views them (as abominations according to Catholicism) and some think or are told they won’t be accepted. So to try to present as the opposite sex to fit in works.
I feel deeply for every family torn apart by trans ideology but I can’t listen to conspiracy theories or people who think praying to God is going to help us fix this mess. I’m out of here.
Well done. The trans lobby tapped into people's natural desire to be kind and asked them to "give an inch, what's the harm" over and over and over again until that inch became a mile. It's only when you zoom out and take the issue to the 30,000 foot view, as you've done in this letter, that the whole scam is exposed for the theater of the absurd it is. Except theater should be entertaining, not destructive. And this is the most destructive movement to have ever sunk its tentacles into children.
I see random signs now that say "Be Kind." The menacing, unspoken subtext is "or else." It is sad that even kindness has been given a new meaning, which is "don't say anything that contradicts or questions our beliefs, or you will be labeled a hater or a bigot."
Your sarcasm is hitting home; it’s painful. I could say these to my daughter and as smart as she is, she’ll catch on real quick! And she’ll know I’ll be lying through my face.
Hugs❤️
Sarcasm is a wonderful tool.
You know what? Stick to your guns. Don't compromise. Someday she is going to come around and you are going to be waiting with open arms. No "I told you so's" just, "What do we need to do now?" The fog of INSANITY is going to lift and she will see that YOU had her best interest in mind THE WHOLE TIME. Not her "glitter family", not her girlfriend/boyfriend, whack-job doctor, nutso therapist, and so called "friends" who will desert her when she decides this was a huge mistake. This is NOT the letter she will want then. YOU. ARE. RIGHT. Standing with you, along with all the other parents whose kids are in the cult. 💗
Your letter speaks volumes to all of us but will most likely fall on “deaf ears” to your confused trans believing daughter. In fact, it would not be well received by anyone caught up in this evil cult. Your sarcastic writing was on point and any logical person will see the nonsense that this trans ideology is portraying. Very sad. Your situation is a difficult one to be in but here on this sub stack we all understand. Broken children, broken homes, broken relationships. I hope your daughter will find the truth but she will never be the same if she continues down the rabbit hole. Wishing you peace.
I still don't get the whole "I'm not a woman; I'm a gay man" thing---that just makes zero sense. If you are a girl who likes boys, that's what most of us call normal! It's a sickness for sure, and the same zealots who push climate change and anti-capitalism are the same who want to eliminate the family as it has existed since the beginning of time. But then again, what do I know?
That’s what most us would call heterosexual.
precisely
Oh darn. I'm afraid that if sent it would not work. I'd amputate a leg to have my kid be rational about this. But you can't reason a person out of something he or she wasn't reasoned into in the first place. He's my kid. I'd take a bullet for him. But he thinks remembering when he chased insects or trucks or so on is evil. Dude, you're on the spectrum. Your social anxiety is because of that, not because my wife and I had a child with a female soul and a male body.
Crushing.
I am heart-broken for what you and your daughter have gone through. Our society has marginalized parent and the wisdom of our elders. Parents should home school their kids, pick their friends, teach their children about God, and not allow them to surf the web or use social media.
Religious teachings that call LGB youth an abomination and shame them for their innate attraction to the same sex is why some kids feel the need to try to transition to the opposite sex. Research indicates many of these kids will grow up to be same sex attracted. I believe teaching them religion won’t help. More schooling in ethics to guide them, perhaps. No question we need to get Gender Ideology out of schools and higher education. Replacing it with religious doctrine won’t help - Western societies have a separation of church and state for a reason.
Not realistic in today’s digital world of business and commerce that we don’t allow youth to use the internet. Picking their friends and shielding them from social interaction with peers will equally harm them.
I believe we must all rise together (regardless of our spiritual or political affiliations) and demand social media companies protect children, demand our schools stop indoctrinating children into what appears to be a religious cult and demand our governments stop allowing the medicalization of vulnerable and troubled youth.
Not all religious teaching is fire and brimstone. For example, honor your mother and father, do not bear false witness, do unto others as you would have them do unto you . Do not murder.
You do have to realize that what you’re facing with secular progressivism is every bit as condemning and moralizing as any religion on earth. In fact, it is a religion. For example, there is no scientific evidence that, based on a feeling, biological females should be surgically and chemically altered to be biological males and vice versa. It’s a belief. it’s irrational, and it’s very harmful to young people. Look at the suicide rates. The left preaches inclusion but they are intolerant of any beliefs but their own.
We know all religion is not fire and brimstone. I agree - this movement is as condemning and moralizing as any religion. In my view, it’s worse than most of the more extreme religions because it not only disputes science and attacks women’s rights but it seeks to destroy families and
harms vulnerable children and youth.
Not all left leaning people are intolerant. This is not a republican vs democratic or religious vs agnostic/atheist issue, despite how it has been politicized. These are crimes against humanity and for that we should all be on our feet and taking action to stop it.
Leftism is a religion. Trans ideology is one of their doctrines. Surgeries, hormones, pronouns, protests, being an ally -- all of these things are religious rites.
Writing that note, even if you don't ever send it had to have been extremely therapeutic.
Well, perhaps you (quite reasonably) wouldn't send such a letter, but you DID write it, and wrote it brilliantly.
The logic you present so ironically would simply result in senior cult members condemning you to your daughter, and she would otherwise elide any portion of that logical expression that prompted thoughtful inquiry and evaluation.
That said, I would appreciate your permission to reproduce and distribute the text of your unsent missive.
I've written a similar letter and looking back it was filled with utter rage. Understandably 100%. But on having some time pass, had I sent it, it def would have sealed our estrangement for a long time to come. For now, I'm sitting tight and OH boy, that is a bitch of a challenge!
I did not affirm and in fact did all I was "permitted" to do, including weep in total despair but much of it was not shared with her. The bit I did blurt out and text her was out of sheer desperation to share the reality of medical harm in what I was researching and even those few exchanges were intense and too much for her at the time.
On script, she cut off any in person visits for many months and barely texted a word to me. She went ahead (even tho I suggested a simple pause), and had surgery with the encouragement of "professionals, allies, friends, girlfriend (theyfriend)", who was also on T earlier on but now that my kid was taking the leap, that took a back seat and "theyfriend" put all of their sadness with her own invisible mother as a focus on my kid's "maleness". Nowadays they (she) behaves more naturally "feminine" and my kid behaves more affected by T.
In retrospect, I should have listened and asked questions just a little more. Not that it would have changed anything except maybe she would be sharing more about her life like she was before this tragic experience swallowed her up and convinced her she was something different than who she was.
Personally, I wasn't given very much time to process this as they (those affected) tend to be ruminating over these ideas for months and even years. My notice was maybe 90 days. This shut down and cut off from dialogue, is/was from a very successful young adult, with a masters degree and several yrs time in a new job. She had no trouble meeting partners, landing jobs, was of a very confident nature, brilliant, funny and a severely, non depressed person ! Just to share, that's how strong this ideology truly is.. She also comes from a liberal background tho I have to say, she went to an extremely progressive college and later I learned that her mentor of 75 who also has a trans son in law, touted these "beliefs" and "even she was supportive". Suddenly I was plunged into bad guy role.
My advice, cut yourself a break. Keep writing but hold onto it for a long time. Maybe they will keep talking and ime, talking, listening and sharing is the only way out of this mess.
Oh rage fits. How did the kid you watched Thomas the Tank Engine with forget their life?
It seems to be a problem for the neurodiverse crowd and the youngsters. They don't hold onto the memories we remember as they have their own view of experiences which are deeply affected by their perceptions and world views. Seeing Scott Newgent's story and many others now, I think anyone can fall prey to wicked ideas when normalized.
Send it!
This is a brilliant letter...and it would be worth sharing a version with some of our older kids. Hmmm.
One of the many aspects of trans I don’t get is the blind trust in big pharma and our profit-driven medical care system. Aren’t these the kind of influences kids who want to be different should naturally distrust? Big corporations who will be making money off of them for life? Back when I was a kid the counterculture movements were against Western medicine and sought alternative treatments.
Yes!!!! This is an INDUSTRY. There are GOBS of money to be made off of unhappy kids. These are the people who decry the evils of capitalism and they are offering up their bodies to be sacrificed to the idol of consumerism.
Have you heard about the Trevor Project? It is the epicenter of the the crowd of groomers who claim they'll be the new family. Also: www.newdiscourses.com/tag/nd-bullets
They need to be defunded, as do Human Rights Campaign, Stonewall, EGALE, GLAAD and other charities originally founded to safeguard gay and lesbians and advocate for our civil rights. I am actively calling for their defunding and removal of senior leadership as a lesbian and believe others should too. While once good organizations, I feel they have completely lost their way, have bought into Gender Ideology, have been taken over by “trans activists”
and have caused irreparable harm to society.
I recently saw Judy Shepard receive a presidential award and I found it heartbreaking that she aligns with these causes having had her son viciously murdered by homophobes. Matthew was gay, not trans. Had he lived in this era it is possible he might have been taken with the “trans” narrative. Who will ever know but I wanted to ask her if, as his mother, she would have affirmed his new identity or fought for her gay son to be accepted for who he was?
We should write her and ask her to read these posts. If anyone should be able relate to the outrage and grief of losing a child, I suspect she’s one of them.
FYI: Many are not aware that the truth is finally coming out about what really happened to Matthew Shepherd. It was in fact not a homophobic hate crime, but instead one focused on crystal meth. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard
I am deeply studied in the hate crime murders of over 300 people in North America who were LGB. The evidence in Matthew’s murder and the circumstances surrounding it are extremely well know. Please don’t dishonour his memory by trying to assert that what killed Matthew was drugs and not a pack of homophobic young men who pistol whipped him to death tied to a fucking fence. What a bunch of crap. Get your facts straight.
I am sorry you are not ready to hear the truth. It is you who needs to get your facts straight. If you have access to The Daily Wire, Candace Owens has some excellent information about the case. https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-untold-truth-of-the-matthew-shepard-story You may also want to check out the book by Steven Jimenez, The Book of Matt: Hidden Truths about the Murder of Matthew Shepard.
I am sorry you believe everything you read on the internet. See a problem with that? Isn’t that a huge part of the problem everyone has been talking about - people believing what they read online and lacking critical thinking skills?
Until you’ve taken the time to deeply research these hate crime cases, cull through court documents, read police reports and coroner’s reports to make your own informed opinion, what gives you the right to tell others who have to wake up and get informed? Any concept of how iron clad cases like this had to be for gay people to gain hate crimes legislation?
Perhaps a few PITT parents would like to blame the murder of LGB people on something other than what it was or blame “left leaning” people for what has happened to their children. Matthew and others were killed by other humans, the evidence was crystal clear in many cases and the underlying reason given by murderers in most of cases was because of their religious convictions. I can start quoting the murderers statements if you’d like and send you links to verify where this information came from.
Wonder why so many children turn away from their to find a new chosen family? In some cases, but certainly not all, it’s because they see how some of society still treats same sex attracted people, how religion views them (as abominations according to Catholicism) and some think or are told they won’t be accepted. So to try to present as the opposite sex to fit in works.
I feel deeply for every family torn apart by trans ideology but I can’t listen to conspiracy theories or people who think praying to God is going to help us fix this mess. I’m out of here.
New discourses does a great job of explaining the origin of all the "wokeness", which goes back to Marx (and further).
Well done. The trans lobby tapped into people's natural desire to be kind and asked them to "give an inch, what's the harm" over and over and over again until that inch became a mile. It's only when you zoom out and take the issue to the 30,000 foot view, as you've done in this letter, that the whole scam is exposed for the theater of the absurd it is. Except theater should be entertaining, not destructive. And this is the most destructive movement to have ever sunk its tentacles into children.
I see random signs now that say "Be Kind." The menacing, unspoken subtext is "or else." It is sad that even kindness has been given a new meaning, which is "don't say anything that contradicts or questions our beliefs, or you will be labeled a hater or a bigot."