My daughter was an actress before she even knew it. I like to say she came out of the womb talking. She was reciting her ABCs at 13 or 14 months of age, reading at age 3, devouring chapter books by 5 - always with the flair and flourish of a budding performer.
I'm not a parent and this is probably an ignorant question, but...what are the schools doing about the students' crashing grades and antisocial behaviour? So many of these stories seem to involve super bright kids who used to be academically successful (or at least clearly high potential) suddenly falling in a heap. Even if the school is "affirming" of gender beliefs, surely they must see a big problem in terms of their own educational and behavioural priorities?
They don't do anything but support the delusion. The schools protocol pretty much across the board and across the country is "affirm them immediately". Make sure to take the kids sudden delusion and cement it into place by reinforcing the pronouns and identity. The schools are just making the problem worse even to the extent of making the parents do the same thing by manipulating them emotionally.
Well, first many teachers don' care. Of those who do, the kool-aid drinkers think that kids lose their academic motivation due to lack of parental support for their trans identity. The non-kool-aid drinkers have to keep their sane opinions to themselves. To be fair, high school is rough for these (mostly autistic ) kids. I suspect academic and behavioral problems in high school is not a new phenomena and existed among these kids long before trans cult came along and made it 1000 times worse.
Unfortunately, the American people have spoken. They just kept Biden and his administration at the top of the heap where they believe it is an injustice NOT to trans children who are asking for it and they will fight to criminalize parents who DO NOT go along with it.
Sounds so familiar...but my daughter learned about this when she was maybe 16. New friend group. Her old friend group were into drama but she was too shy for that. Cosplay...anime and mine craft etc...left a few weeks after grad. and turning 18. You do not want to know the rest. Still holding on she will come back to us. Her dad is in ICU not doing well from lung transplant. Her older sister convinced her to see him. She said she has a new family now. I prayed it would cause the lies to crumble when she saw her dad...she has not been up since. She loved her dad SO much. Totally brainwashed.
Sounds familiar. When our kid's grandfather died recently, kiddo said nothing to anyone, even though he was still living with us. That was before we knew he was in the cult. When he "came out," it explained a lot. I think they see family as the poisonous soil from which the hated former self sprang. It must be shunned, no matter how loving.
They get brainwashed and now you're the enemy, how tragic. I've been listening to Isaac Uncooked on youtube; he's a de-transitioner who speaks eloquently on the evils of transitioning.
Thank you for sharing this painful story that so many of us fully understand as we, too, are living it. There is no escaping this pervasive method of affirmation and love bombing that has our young people enthralled. My once beautiful daughter 14 year old daughter dropped everything to trans identify. Her violin, her excellent grades, her charming nature. Now she is angry and hateful. Beautiful hair chopped off and a serious eating disorder. My heart breaks every single day. This is madness.
This makes me so unbelievably sad and so desperately worried for my own almost 14 year old daughter. Our story is so similar, theater and all. I keep hoping she'll desist, but hearing that your daughter is still a believer after all many years is scary. I'm sorry for what you are going through and I hope as with everyone going through this that our children will wake up and realize this is not the answer to their troubles.
Time is on you side. I wish I still had 4 years (mine is almost 18). I am sure you have heard by now about limiting /removing the internet and increasing family time. Also, I do believe that this cult will collapse in the next few years, hopefully before your daughter reaches adulthood. Take care of yourself. She needs you healthy and sane.
Yeah, the big influencers are a problem but it also horrifies me to think that each member of this cult becomes an influencer on a smaller scale. Perhaps the person who introduced my daughter to trans ideology is a child of another parent on this site. Perhaps (and it horrifies me) my daughter brought some of your children into this cult. It's diabolic.
Thank you for your kind comment! I think, so many days, I am just barely coping. I have a flicker of hope that the tide is turning ever so slowly. Hope is all I have. So, I'm trying to cling to that.
How many of these stories do people need to hear before they realize the stakes?
If you are sending your child to public school, find a way out.
Do not give your child a smartphone.
Do not allow social media in your home.
Model these behaviors yourself if you can.
Put NetNanny or Kaspersky on your home computers.
Put all computers in public areas of your home, no bedroom PCs.
Get rid of all laptops and tablets or use router filtering to block internet access from them.
I have a 15 year old tomboy who could easily fall into this cult. Our family does all of these things, including home educating our kids, and we still worry. Like the story here, she was involved in a theatre class that we did not renew because 3 of the 10 girls in the class appeared to be part of the anime/pink-hair/non-binary crowd. Let your friends think you're a freak -- mine do. Your kids lives are worth losing a few friendships.
Like so many other stories here, this one is heartbreaking to read. But let that heartbreak translate not just into pity for her family, but into action for your own.
That's what I would do if my boys were younger. My kids hit puberty in the 80s when there wasn't this kind of crap and parents could say, "No". Glad I'm not a young teen today; I spent part of my puberty with my two friends dressed in black/red check jackets and mannish shirts. If "them" had been around in the 60s, we'd have been in trouble.
Why can't a a girl who likes to wear baggy shirts and play Airsoft just be a girl who likes to wear baggy shirts and play Airsoft? My mother's generation spent 40 years making that OK (thanks, Mom!) and now we're falling back into stereotypes.
An old friend of mine chastised me on Facebook way back in 2016 for supporting Sanders over Hillary because my friend didn’t think his medicare for all would cover medical and surgical interventions for kids she emphasized were at risk for suicide, without them. When I pointed out that diabetic young people were at risk for dying, period, if they couldn’t afford insulin, she had no response. However, she was not deterred. It was as if poor diabetics did not exist to her. She had two little kids at the time. I deleted Facebook because of how much unrealistic wokeness I found myself arguing against.
Another sad, gut-wrenching story. Thank God, de-transitioners are telling their horror stories publically and even starting lawsuits. The perverted ideology of transgenderism and wokism needs to be crushed. Puberty has the bad and the good; we got through it without dismantling our bodies.
We had Drag Queen Story Hour do a library "tour" here in the UK this summer. Right wingers came out to protest. My friend who works in libraries was all for it, great fun, it's just a story. She was so angry at all the hate for them and really believed that this was pure right wing homophobia. I explained time and time again the the drag queen is the baddie. She is wilfully blind to the grooming scandal at large, can't see it, won't look... I think it will take time.
Just saw this now, Lord help us; they've become gods unto themselves! Sick, sick groomers who only want to turn innocent kids into little perverts! I think I need a barf bag, ewww!
WTF is this!? I went through a nervous breakdown about a year and a half ago. I could've been euthanised had this been the case! What is wrong with Trudeau? I hear he's going to make an appearance on Drag Race too. I think he is despicable, verging on one of the worst of all the world leaders. Stripping Canadians of their parental rights and now making an appearance on a show with such pro-trans links? It makes me genuinely sick to my stomach! What's the political situation in Canada, is there any decent opposition to him!?
He's worse than his father in the 60s and 70s. I think Trudeau wants to save money by getting rid of undesirables; it's ghoulish and creepy? Would he like it if he'd had his parental rights taken away? I saw a picture of him in a Drag (Queen) race, ewww! I can't stand drag queens anymore; they are grooming kids kindergarten age with genderbread, playdough phalluses and Kuma Sutra! So nauseating! Imagine being able to get euthanized simply because you don't have enough money & barely get by; God has a plan for those people; they will reap what they sow.
"Our culture told her that the real world, and the role she plays in it, is painful and hard sometimes, but not to worry, because she can escape that. She can live in a make believe story and be the central character." This is such a bad message our culture sends and I agree it's a big part of the problem. The girls often start out so creative and unusually bright and lovely - and then become horrible to be around when they are closed in and the central character of a play in their own mind - affirmed and applauded every which way they turn.
Sadly, I'd advise parents to keep their daughters away from anything to do with theater right now. It's invested with ideology.
I worry here about folks weighing in who don't have children, adult or otherwise, who have been impacted by this cult. Y'all think you have answers for the rest of us and while I know your intentions are good I don't think you really understand the enormity of this movement. Take their phones and computers away, but if they are really attracted to this stuff they will eventually be out of your hands and then what? Since my son ins 34 he wasn't raised on the internet so we didn't have the opportunity to think we needed to protect him in this way.
Your comment really was comforting to me. My daughter is so similar to the author's daughter. But we did homeschool. We left the theatre because of the bad influences. My daughter didn't have a smartphone. Our PC was in a central location. We were cautious. My daughter is 24. So, this started when the internet wasn't as huge as it is now. But she found a way to get online. She was sucked into this madness quickly. She is taking wrong-sex hormones now. I'm afraid of what might be coming next. My hope is that she won't be able to afford the surgery yet. Maybe, as she matures she will find a way out, I don't know. I think you're right, these kids will find a way, and this cult is so powerful the kids that are vulnerable really don't have a chance. I really don't know what I would do differently if I could go back in time.
I have several friends who are younger, heterodox feminists who are very involved in this. The more the better, in my opinion. If the only people who get involved are those of us who have lost kids to it, it will take a long time to become numerous enough for our voices to be heard.
That said, every family is different. In our household, my spouse and I were never on the same page regarding electronics, or even rules and consequences. I am embarrassed and very sad to admit that kiddo ruled the roost from a young age. Probably the most important thing is that parents support each other and present a united front.
I hear what you are saying because I cringe when I read advice about "taking every device away," etc. Sometimes a family member, or other well-meaning people say these things to me but truly they operate outside of our very real experience and do not understand what we are going through. You can cut your child off from the world and then they can run away, or quietly wait until 18 and never speak to you again, making every single drastic change that they once quietly dreamed of in your home. There are no easy answers!
As one of those who frequently does comment like that, please don't take it as a dig on you. I certainly don't intend it that way at all. You did what you could, and at 34 years old, there's nothing you can do.
However, there are a great many families whose kids aren't 34; they're 13. Those families still can do something. My comments are not intended to blame, but to motivate those families whose kids haven't gone down this rabbit hole yet to trust their instincts. Don't wait.
3 teen girls, one of whom is a tomboy. When trans went viral a few years ago, I was very concerned about her getting sucked into into it. 4th Wave and Abigail Shrier provided the evidence to convince me I wasn't crazy. And we acted on that. This is therapy for me to remember that I'm not crazy.
I still worry that we're not doing enough, but she's turning 16 years old and so far so good.
I'm not a parent and this is probably an ignorant question, but...what are the schools doing about the students' crashing grades and antisocial behaviour? So many of these stories seem to involve super bright kids who used to be academically successful (or at least clearly high potential) suddenly falling in a heap. Even if the school is "affirming" of gender beliefs, surely they must see a big problem in terms of their own educational and behavioural priorities?
They don't do anything but support the delusion. The schools protocol pretty much across the board and across the country is "affirm them immediately". Make sure to take the kids sudden delusion and cement it into place by reinforcing the pronouns and identity. The schools are just making the problem worse even to the extent of making the parents do the same thing by manipulating them emotionally.
Well, first many teachers don' care. Of those who do, the kool-aid drinkers think that kids lose their academic motivation due to lack of parental support for their trans identity. The non-kool-aid drinkers have to keep their sane opinions to themselves. To be fair, high school is rough for these (mostly autistic ) kids. I suspect academic and behavioral problems in high school is not a new phenomena and existed among these kids long before trans cult came along and made it 1000 times worse.
Unfortunately, the American people have spoken. They just kept Biden and his administration at the top of the heap where they believe it is an injustice NOT to trans children who are asking for it and they will fight to criminalize parents who DO NOT go along with it.
Sending love and strength to you and your family. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds so familiar...but my daughter learned about this when she was maybe 16. New friend group. Her old friend group were into drama but she was too shy for that. Cosplay...anime and mine craft etc...left a few weeks after grad. and turning 18. You do not want to know the rest. Still holding on she will come back to us. Her dad is in ICU not doing well from lung transplant. Her older sister convinced her to see him. She said she has a new family now. I prayed it would cause the lies to crumble when she saw her dad...she has not been up since. She loved her dad SO much. Totally brainwashed.
Sounds familiar. When our kid's grandfather died recently, kiddo said nothing to anyone, even though he was still living with us. That was before we knew he was in the cult. When he "came out," it explained a lot. I think they see family as the poisonous soil from which the hated former self sprang. It must be shunned, no matter how loving.
They get brainwashed and now you're the enemy, how tragic. I've been listening to Isaac Uncooked on youtube; he's a de-transitioner who speaks eloquently on the evils of transitioning.
Seek out lawyers and sue the school. If this events happened within the past 180 days report them to the state and federal authorities.
Fantasy is full of lgbtq types. I'm so sorry this happened.
What date does Generation Affirmation documentary come out, does anyone know? I'm so eager to see it, and to get the word out there 🙏😬
It now says 'late 2022' on the website: https://affirmationgenerationmovie.com/#
Thank you so much! 😊👍
I'm so sorry that you are going through this. If I could take the pain away, I would.
Thank you for sharing this painful story that so many of us fully understand as we, too, are living it. There is no escaping this pervasive method of affirmation and love bombing that has our young people enthralled. My once beautiful daughter 14 year old daughter dropped everything to trans identify. Her violin, her excellent grades, her charming nature. Now she is angry and hateful. Beautiful hair chopped off and a serious eating disorder. My heart breaks every single day. This is madness.
This makes me so unbelievably sad and so desperately worried for my own almost 14 year old daughter. Our story is so similar, theater and all. I keep hoping she'll desist, but hearing that your daughter is still a believer after all many years is scary. I'm sorry for what you are going through and I hope as with everyone going through this that our children will wake up and realize this is not the answer to their troubles.
Time is on you side. I wish I still had 4 years (mine is almost 18). I am sure you have heard by now about limiting /removing the internet and increasing family time. Also, I do believe that this cult will collapse in the next few years, hopefully before your daughter reaches adulthood. Take care of yourself. She needs you healthy and sane.
Ellen/Eliot Page should read this and apologize.
Yeah, the big influencers are a problem but it also horrifies me to think that each member of this cult becomes an influencer on a smaller scale. Perhaps the person who introduced my daughter to trans ideology is a child of another parent on this site. Perhaps (and it horrifies me) my daughter brought some of your children into this cult. It's diabolic.
It's truly contagious, on so many levels. My heart bleeds for you all. You're all doing amazing just to cope, even if it's barely xx
Thank you for your kind comment! I think, so many days, I am just barely coping. I have a flicker of hope that the tide is turning ever so slowly. Hope is all I have. So, I'm trying to cling to that.
You deserve great credit for just barely coping. Please have hope, the tide is turning. You have support here by the bucketloads. x
I know she is a victim to some extent but how dare she use her influence to encourage children to go down such a dangerous route. It makes me angry.
Then there is Dylan Mulvaney, equally bad. More parents need to homeschool.
Heartbreaking. Thank you for your story.
How many of these stories do people need to hear before they realize the stakes?
If you are sending your child to public school, find a way out.
Do not give your child a smartphone.
Do not allow social media in your home.
Model these behaviors yourself if you can.
Put NetNanny or Kaspersky on your home computers.
Put all computers in public areas of your home, no bedroom PCs.
Get rid of all laptops and tablets or use router filtering to block internet access from them.
I have a 15 year old tomboy who could easily fall into this cult. Our family does all of these things, including home educating our kids, and we still worry. Like the story here, she was involved in a theatre class that we did not renew because 3 of the 10 girls in the class appeared to be part of the anime/pink-hair/non-binary crowd. Let your friends think you're a freak -- mine do. Your kids lives are worth losing a few friendships.
Like so many other stories here, this one is heartbreaking to read. But let that heartbreak translate not just into pity for her family, but into action for your own.
That's what I would do if my boys were younger. My kids hit puberty in the 80s when there wasn't this kind of crap and parents could say, "No". Glad I'm not a young teen today; I spent part of my puberty with my two friends dressed in black/red check jackets and mannish shirts. If "them" had been around in the 60s, we'd have been in trouble.
Why can't a a girl who likes to wear baggy shirts and play Airsoft just be a girl who likes to wear baggy shirts and play Airsoft? My mother's generation spent 40 years making that OK (thanks, Mom!) and now we're falling back into stereotypes.
Many more people need to home school their kids and do at least some of the things you mention.
An old friend of mine chastised me on Facebook way back in 2016 for supporting Sanders over Hillary because my friend didn’t think his medicare for all would cover medical and surgical interventions for kids she emphasized were at risk for suicide, without them. When I pointed out that diabetic young people were at risk for dying, period, if they couldn’t afford insulin, she had no response. However, she was not deterred. It was as if poor diabetics did not exist to her. She had two little kids at the time. I deleted Facebook because of how much unrealistic wokeness I found myself arguing against.
Another sad, gut-wrenching story. Thank God, de-transitioners are telling their horror stories publically and even starting lawsuits. The perverted ideology of transgenderism and wokism needs to be crushed. Puberty has the bad and the good; we got through it without dismantling our bodies.
Perfectly said
Thanks. So much hatred and preoccupation with sex and changing it. It's nauseating. And government & medical folk are falling for this crap.
We had Drag Queen Story Hour do a library "tour" here in the UK this summer. Right wingers came out to protest. My friend who works in libraries was all for it, great fun, it's just a story. She was so angry at all the hate for them and really believed that this was pure right wing homophobia. I explained time and time again the the drag queen is the baddie. She is wilfully blind to the grooming scandal at large, can't see it, won't look... I think it will take time.
What do you make of this guy?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/08/07/aida-h-dee-and-the-drag-queen-story-hour-summer-tour/amp/
Just saw this now, Lord help us; they've become gods unto themselves! Sick, sick groomers who only want to turn innocent kids into little perverts! I think I need a barf bag, ewww!
Thank for that. The tide is turning because of us, Finnish/Swedish studies, Tavistock downfall and all the brave detransitioners who are speaking up.
And Mermaids is being investigated. This is hugely important here. Are you in the UK too?
I'm in Australia; I'm so glad I'm not in my birth country, Canada. Could they be more woke! Lord help us! https://thepostmillennial.com/trudeau-liberals-to-facilitate-suicide-for-the-mentally-ill-starting-in-march
WTF is this!? I went through a nervous breakdown about a year and a half ago. I could've been euthanised had this been the case! What is wrong with Trudeau? I hear he's going to make an appearance on Drag Race too. I think he is despicable, verging on one of the worst of all the world leaders. Stripping Canadians of their parental rights and now making an appearance on a show with such pro-trans links? It makes me genuinely sick to my stomach! What's the political situation in Canada, is there any decent opposition to him!?
He's worse than his father in the 60s and 70s. I think Trudeau wants to save money by getting rid of undesirables; it's ghoulish and creepy? Would he like it if he'd had his parental rights taken away? I saw a picture of him in a Drag (Queen) race, ewww! I can't stand drag queens anymore; they are grooming kids kindergarten age with genderbread, playdough phalluses and Kuma Sutra! So nauseating! Imagine being able to get euthanized simply because you don't have enough money & barely get by; God has a plan for those people; they will reap what they sow.
"Our culture told her that the real world, and the role she plays in it, is painful and hard sometimes, but not to worry, because she can escape that. She can live in a make believe story and be the central character." This is such a bad message our culture sends and I agree it's a big part of the problem. The girls often start out so creative and unusually bright and lovely - and then become horrible to be around when they are closed in and the central character of a play in their own mind - affirmed and applauded every which way they turn.
Sadly, I'd advise parents to keep their daughters away from anything to do with theater right now. It's invested with ideology.
Thank you for sharing your story, my story is similar. It is so desperately sad what is happening to our beautiful, sensitive & creative daughters
I worry here about folks weighing in who don't have children, adult or otherwise, who have been impacted by this cult. Y'all think you have answers for the rest of us and while I know your intentions are good I don't think you really understand the enormity of this movement. Take their phones and computers away, but if they are really attracted to this stuff they will eventually be out of your hands and then what? Since my son ins 34 he wasn't raised on the internet so we didn't have the opportunity to think we needed to protect him in this way.
Your comment really was comforting to me. My daughter is so similar to the author's daughter. But we did homeschool. We left the theatre because of the bad influences. My daughter didn't have a smartphone. Our PC was in a central location. We were cautious. My daughter is 24. So, this started when the internet wasn't as huge as it is now. But she found a way to get online. She was sucked into this madness quickly. She is taking wrong-sex hormones now. I'm afraid of what might be coming next. My hope is that she won't be able to afford the surgery yet. Maybe, as she matures she will find a way out, I don't know. I think you're right, these kids will find a way, and this cult is so powerful the kids that are vulnerable really don't have a chance. I really don't know what I would do differently if I could go back in time.
I have several friends who are younger, heterodox feminists who are very involved in this. The more the better, in my opinion. If the only people who get involved are those of us who have lost kids to it, it will take a long time to become numerous enough for our voices to be heard.
That said, every family is different. In our household, my spouse and I were never on the same page regarding electronics, or even rules and consequences. I am embarrassed and very sad to admit that kiddo ruled the roost from a young age. Probably the most important thing is that parents support each other and present a united front.
I hear what you are saying because I cringe when I read advice about "taking every device away," etc. Sometimes a family member, or other well-meaning people say these things to me but truly they operate outside of our very real experience and do not understand what we are going through. You can cut your child off from the world and then they can run away, or quietly wait until 18 and never speak to you again, making every single drastic change that they once quietly dreamed of in your home. There are no easy answers!
Yeah "take the device away" is not particularly realistic advice, especially when this movement smears parents and promotes glitter families 🤬
Of course, each person's situation is different. However, doing nothing never solves any problems.
I totally agree 🙏
As one of those who frequently does comment like that, please don't take it as a dig on you. I certainly don't intend it that way at all. You did what you could, and at 34 years old, there's nothing you can do.
However, there are a great many families whose kids aren't 34; they're 13. Those families still can do something. My comments are not intended to blame, but to motivate those families whose kids haven't gone down this rabbit hole yet to trust their instincts. Don't wait.
Brian, what brings you here?
3 teen girls, one of whom is a tomboy. When trans went viral a few years ago, I was very concerned about her getting sucked into into it. 4th Wave and Abigail Shrier provided the evidence to convince me I wasn't crazy. And we acted on that. This is therapy for me to remember that I'm not crazy.
I still worry that we're not doing enough, but she's turning 16 years old and so far so good.