I really empathize with your pain. Anger is a secondary emotion, often caused by fear or pain. I'm afraid my daughter will hurt herself physically. I'm afraid she will push away those who love her the most, including God. But I'm learning that apart from loving her and cultivating as much of a relationship as she allows (thankfully, ours is 17 and lives with us and doesn't attend public school anymore) and praying for her, most things are out of my control. "Cow-having" isn't helpful. Believe me, I've had many cows. The stress and "freaking out" drives kids further away from us. I'm praying that everyone's child/young adult will have their eyes opened to the insidious nature of the gender cult. I pray that our culture will fall in line with liberal Europe (who could have guessed that) and stop harmful surgeries. I recently read that in one study there was a 67% increase in POST surgical prescriptions for antidepressants. Meaning that the "affirmation" surgery can make people depressed, even suicidal. Imagine putting all your eggs in one basket, raising money for surgery, and then discovering, to your horror, that your self-image is worse, your body ravaged, and that your only solution was a lie.
This is the manipulation of HIPPA and the age limit needs to be changed to 26. The medical industry will cut us out of our children’s care, betray us and dehumanize parents.
But still bill us for the costs.
I have a daughter who just turned 29 and is sterile. They drugged her to the tune of $19,000/month of pharmaceutical drugs. They took her mammary glands at 22 and 26 they took her uterus.
We have to all bane together to beat this monster.
Dear René, I'm so sorry about the egregious excuse for "care" your daughter was sold. I'm sure you dreamt of grandkids and helping your daughter be a good mom. I pray that your heart would heal and that you would find a way to guard your own metal health amid all these heartaches. I just had to set up an appointment with my Christian counselor this week because I was so distressed. She told me to stop focusing on the gender stuff and stop stressing about things I don't control.
Madeline needs to come home, heal and then redirect her life into training to be a leader in regenerative medicine. That was her calling when she was in middle school. Bright eyed. She got off the school bus and told me “I think veterinary medicine is good but I think Genetics is everything!”
She needs to get her ass home so we can get back on track and beat this monster together. My brilliant daughter and me blowing wind in her sails. Her IQ is 131. At least it was before all the drugs.
You can find out about Madeline at here on my website.
After all you went through, it looks like a curse. But I wonder if is her way to call the attention, you have another daughter that is disable, what is her relationship with her? Does she feel guilty that she was the "healthy one", that is why she try to hurt herself? Obviously there are a very complex situation in your family, or maybe she wants to punish you for something that is very normal in a lot of trans people. Also if you have had the twins by IV there is a spiritual component. People who used IVF have to be aware that many of the embryos (humans) they created through a doctor intervention but still with their own genes will be left behind on a freezer or discharged (killed) and that is evil in nature. Maybe many disagreed with me that an embryo is a human being but it always is, he or she will never be another thing, and the manipulation of life by men is not without consequences. Another conversation people should have because a more natural way of things should be preferred to a superficial or materialistic way, and that is what we are showing our children that we will get whatever we want no matter what, and they are learning to get whatever they want or they think they want including if it is a "change of sex", because they can, the path has been paved for them. The same with surrogate or "womb rental", and those are the values we are transmitting to the next generations "you can do whatever you want to all costs" but do we teach them the importance of to do what it is good? or the consequences of doing whatever we want? That we can do something doesn't mean that we should. If people put all my comments together in this platform they will find out that I always reflect in different aspects of this issue and that shows how so many layers and how much complex is this topic of transgenderism, I am still amazed that I find a new angle to it and they are not contradictory but we humans are complex creatures, still I do not find one common cause though the emergent is the same "wanting to be the opposite sex or rejection of owns biology". We need more people in different capacities studying this, fortunately they are.
I am a little hopeful because at least the tide is turning right now as compared to when my daughter transitioned in the height of the insanity. Maybe it will be a little harder for her than it was for my daughter and a little less popular.
I so feel this as well, my son was premature and deathly ill in the Nicu for about six weeks. When we finally got him home, I pumped for almost 6 months because he would not latch. Miraculously he did one day, and he continued to nurse until he was almost two. Despite the odds and what Dr said, could transpire due to his prematurity and illness, he did not have any vision loss, cognitive impairment, etc. he went on to be gifted at everything in sports academically musically…. At 16, during Covid, he found the dark world that we were all familiar with. He’s now 21 and still living in delusion, no ambitions to speak of dropped out of post secondary, and still gaming into the wee hours with online friends that he’s never met in person. I’m not aware of him having a social life or any hobbies outside of the computer screen. Heartbreaking for sure, but there’s absolutely nothing I can do now other than care for my own well-being and mental stability.
Donna, I'm so sorry to hear about your precious son. My daughter also got on a lot of harmful sites and chat rooms during Covid. I didn't know I needed to protect my 12-year-old girl from gay animé porn! I was raised in the 80s with no Internet, VCR, cable TV etc. These are uncharted waters. I am prahing that your 21-year-old would come back like the prodigal son in Luke 17.
The extraordinarily successful indoctrination, the media sell out....the greed of the gender identity industry, the absence of critical thinking of many in the medical & psychological fields...what a catastrophic coming together of forces that've provided troubled youngsters with a false solution to their anguish. I fear that the world is so turned upside down there seems to be little opportunity for clarity on any of this just now but I hope I'm wrong.
There may now be less suppression of some of the scientific studies that clearly show harm with so-called affirmation, but once someone is captured, evidently even looking at these studies or listening to de-transitioners is forbidden. What will it take???
Thank you to everyone for writing, including those who have offered some suggestions as to how to approach confused and unhappy kids.
I hope your daughter somehow may have a change of heart.
She IS truly a miracle, and so you know that miracles DO happen.
It's a cult. You question the ideology, you're out. Your parents question the ideology, they are transphobic, toxic, haters. Like cults, terms are redefined. Love=agree with. Support=do whatever the crap harmful thing your deluded child wants. For those of us with kids still at home, please love on them so they know you can love and disagree. Debating doesn't work because this whole cult is based on "feelings" NOT scientific reality. Facts bounce off them like Skittles off Jell-O (don't know if this works, but it sounds fun).
Your story resonates so much with me. My child also has a complicated medical history. We worked so hard for health. To get off any treatments… reduce doctor visits… ensure our child is as strong as possible. And this has our child diving right back in to it all. Into the deep end or a stormy pool with no lifeguard on duty, while my husband and I are stuck behind a fence, trying desperately without success to get through, watching it all happen as we try to call out how dangerous this is. It’s very hard. You have my empathy. ❤️
Dear Heather, Unfortunately, this is an apt word picture for our unenviable situation. Not only are we behind the fence, someone is trying to drown them (and make us pay them to do it).
There are still many great pediatricians. Unfortunately, the giant hospitals and companies make it financially difficult to keep the Hippocratic Oath. I made a point of getting a very conservative, Christian pediatrician, counselor, and teacher for our kid. It's just too dangerous to take them to someone who's going to call DCFS on us because we care.
Thank you for sharing your story. We have a similar story of a struggling sibling. Our daughter who had everything going for her fell for this delusion in college.
I wonder how common this is, as I see several other comments about similar situations.
I'm holding onto hope that this mass delusion will fade and our sons and daughters will wake up and remember who they are. Praying for all of us and our loved ones.
Thanks for your prayers. We all need them. Our 17-year-old, Linnea, hates her name because it's too feminine. It is heartbreaking. I recently attended a seminar on Gen Z Mental Health. As you can imagine, it's a trainwreck. But there was a strong correlation between good mental health and church attendance (non-"affirming" churches). In addition, mental health increased directly when social media and Internet use decreased.
Yes, I believe there is a strong correlation, now that more churches know what’s happening and how to speak to it. My daughter was raised in a great church, but we live in a smaller town, went to a private Christian school, and had no idea what was happening in regard to this social contagion prior to 2021. My daughter was unprepared for this to be so strongly pushed in college.
I wish I had known to even discuss this at all. She wasn’t on the internet much before her dual enrollment local college classes. That’s when she first discovered it, I believe looking back now, then she went to a university that pushed it, and I’m sure was on the internet constantly during the lockdowns away at school.
She always felt kind of neglected and not able to fix her brother’s problems. This gave her the answers to start over in life as a new person.
Thankfully more people are aware now, and the churches are better equipped to help.
I'm so sad reading your story. You did so much to help your babies to live and be healthy and now one of them has taken this destructive path. I know how if feels to live with a child who believes they are trans. You are on eggshells all the time. Your experience with your daughter sounds very like mine with my son - a kid who kept taking up different interests, becoming bored when he knew how they worked. He learned the harmonica - when he was able to play he dropped it, likewise piano. He could have been excellent. Fencing - running,, the list goes on. I did hope that trans might go the same way but as i haven't seen or heard from him for three years I don't have any idea. But I can hope.
We not only grieve the loss of a girl or boy, we grieve for the future we had hoped they would have. Academic, social, success. Health, happiness, children. We are allowed to grieve. Don't let anyone tell you that you haven't experienced profound loss. For me, apart from actually going through with it, I have never experienced anything as stressful and alarming as a suicidal or self-harming child. We eventually had to put her in inpatient to keep her safe (but not at an "affirming" place.) It helped and she has gone two years without self-harm. Praise God.
Please look at what Marcus Evans has been writing about siblings where one is very ill or otherwise struggling, and the other becomes trans identified. Maybe it will help you understand some angles so you can help your child!!
Also, if the MD follows wpath please note that wpath calls for parents to be involved even if the kid is over 18 in some circumstances. Given your bring informed and your history of supporting your child you have claims to being heard!!!
Interesting, we have the same sibling situation and I notice several other parents commenting the same. Thank you for recommending this information; I'll be interested to read it.
Horrible for you watching her go down this rabbit hole. Would you take her so called healthcare away unless she grants you access to her records & are involved in discussions or do you think she’ll dig her heels in or worse, get funding elsewhere. There’s more to life than trying the impossible lie of changing your sex.
‘She is enough’. Indeed. The culture has betrayed us us and our children and they are no longer allowed to just take the time to grow into themselves and learn to just be. I am so sorry. I would advise to NoT send her to college but form another plan. College is a cesspool of this. Not kidding.
I really empathize with your pain. Anger is a secondary emotion, often caused by fear or pain. I'm afraid my daughter will hurt herself physically. I'm afraid she will push away those who love her the most, including God. But I'm learning that apart from loving her and cultivating as much of a relationship as she allows (thankfully, ours is 17 and lives with us and doesn't attend public school anymore) and praying for her, most things are out of my control. "Cow-having" isn't helpful. Believe me, I've had many cows. The stress and "freaking out" drives kids further away from us. I'm praying that everyone's child/young adult will have their eyes opened to the insidious nature of the gender cult. I pray that our culture will fall in line with liberal Europe (who could have guessed that) and stop harmful surgeries. I recently read that in one study there was a 67% increase in POST surgical prescriptions for antidepressants. Meaning that the "affirmation" surgery can make people depressed, even suicidal. Imagine putting all your eggs in one basket, raising money for surgery, and then discovering, to your horror, that your self-image is worse, your body ravaged, and that your only solution was a lie.
Thanks for sharing.
This is the manipulation of HIPPA and the age limit needs to be changed to 26. The medical industry will cut us out of our children’s care, betray us and dehumanize parents.
But still bill us for the costs.
I have a daughter who just turned 29 and is sterile. They drugged her to the tune of $19,000/month of pharmaceutical drugs. They took her mammary glands at 22 and 26 they took her uterus.
We have to all bane together to beat this monster.
Dear René, I'm so sorry about the egregious excuse for "care" your daughter was sold. I'm sure you dreamt of grandkids and helping your daughter be a good mom. I pray that your heart would heal and that you would find a way to guard your own metal health amid all these heartaches. I just had to set up an appointment with my Christian counselor this week because I was so distressed. She told me to stop focusing on the gender stuff and stop stressing about things I don't control.
I’m don’t share online to be sold services. I simply want to change the culture so she will come home and we heal together.
I’ve had 500 lifetimes of therapy and coaching.
Madeline needs to come home, heal and then redirect her life into training to be a leader in regenerative medicine. That was her calling when she was in middle school. Bright eyed. She got off the school bus and told me “I think veterinary medicine is good but I think Genetics is everything!”
She needs to get her ass home so we can get back on track and beat this monster together. My brilliant daughter and me blowing wind in her sails. Her IQ is 131. At least it was before all the drugs.
You can find out about Madeline at here on my website.
https://estesfilms.com/i-have-wings-no-one-can-see/
Your story is poignant.
I also support non funding of college if she continues to trans identify.
Hoping and praying that she comes back to you and that she will experience the gift of gratitude for her body that is healthy and whole.
After all you went through, it looks like a curse. But I wonder if is her way to call the attention, you have another daughter that is disable, what is her relationship with her? Does she feel guilty that she was the "healthy one", that is why she try to hurt herself? Obviously there are a very complex situation in your family, or maybe she wants to punish you for something that is very normal in a lot of trans people. Also if you have had the twins by IV there is a spiritual component. People who used IVF have to be aware that many of the embryos (humans) they created through a doctor intervention but still with their own genes will be left behind on a freezer or discharged (killed) and that is evil in nature. Maybe many disagreed with me that an embryo is a human being but it always is, he or she will never be another thing, and the manipulation of life by men is not without consequences. Another conversation people should have because a more natural way of things should be preferred to a superficial or materialistic way, and that is what we are showing our children that we will get whatever we want no matter what, and they are learning to get whatever they want or they think they want including if it is a "change of sex", because they can, the path has been paved for them. The same with surrogate or "womb rental", and those are the values we are transmitting to the next generations "you can do whatever you want to all costs" but do we teach them the importance of to do what it is good? or the consequences of doing whatever we want? That we can do something doesn't mean that we should. If people put all my comments together in this platform they will find out that I always reflect in different aspects of this issue and that shows how so many layers and how much complex is this topic of transgenderism, I am still amazed that I find a new angle to it and they are not contradictory but we humans are complex creatures, still I do not find one common cause though the emergent is the same "wanting to be the opposite sex or rejection of owns biology". We need more people in different capacities studying this, fortunately they are.
I don’t know why you are writing about killed embryos. This is not in my essay
I am a little hopeful because at least the tide is turning right now as compared to when my daughter transitioned in the height of the insanity. Maybe it will be a little harder for her than it was for my daughter and a little less popular.
For anyone interested here are the side effects.
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-dark-history-of-hormone-and-puberty
I so feel this as well, my son was premature and deathly ill in the Nicu for about six weeks. When we finally got him home, I pumped for almost 6 months because he would not latch. Miraculously he did one day, and he continued to nurse until he was almost two. Despite the odds and what Dr said, could transpire due to his prematurity and illness, he did not have any vision loss, cognitive impairment, etc. he went on to be gifted at everything in sports academically musically…. At 16, during Covid, he found the dark world that we were all familiar with. He’s now 21 and still living in delusion, no ambitions to speak of dropped out of post secondary, and still gaming into the wee hours with online friends that he’s never met in person. I’m not aware of him having a social life or any hobbies outside of the computer screen. Heartbreaking for sure, but there’s absolutely nothing I can do now other than care for my own well-being and mental stability.
Donna, I'm so sorry to hear about your precious son. My daughter also got on a lot of harmful sites and chat rooms during Covid. I didn't know I needed to protect my 12-year-old girl from gay animé porn! I was raised in the 80s with no Internet, VCR, cable TV etc. These are uncharted waters. I am prahing that your 21-year-old would come back like the prodigal son in Luke 17.
So sad to read your story.
The extraordinarily successful indoctrination, the media sell out....the greed of the gender identity industry, the absence of critical thinking of many in the medical & psychological fields...what a catastrophic coming together of forces that've provided troubled youngsters with a false solution to their anguish. I fear that the world is so turned upside down there seems to be little opportunity for clarity on any of this just now but I hope I'm wrong.
There may now be less suppression of some of the scientific studies that clearly show harm with so-called affirmation, but once someone is captured, evidently even looking at these studies or listening to de-transitioners is forbidden. What will it take???
Thank you to everyone for writing, including those who have offered some suggestions as to how to approach confused and unhappy kids.
I hope your daughter somehow may have a change of heart.
She IS truly a miracle, and so you know that miracles DO happen.
It's a cult. You question the ideology, you're out. Your parents question the ideology, they are transphobic, toxic, haters. Like cults, terms are redefined. Love=agree with. Support=do whatever the crap harmful thing your deluded child wants. For those of us with kids still at home, please love on them so they know you can love and disagree. Debating doesn't work because this whole cult is based on "feelings" NOT scientific reality. Facts bounce off them like Skittles off Jell-O (don't know if this works, but it sounds fun).
Your story resonates so much with me. My child also has a complicated medical history. We worked so hard for health. To get off any treatments… reduce doctor visits… ensure our child is as strong as possible. And this has our child diving right back in to it all. Into the deep end or a stormy pool with no lifeguard on duty, while my husband and I are stuck behind a fence, trying desperately without success to get through, watching it all happen as we try to call out how dangerous this is. It’s very hard. You have my empathy. ❤️
Dear Heather, Unfortunately, this is an apt word picture for our unenviable situation. Not only are we behind the fence, someone is trying to drown them (and make us pay them to do it).
As a retired pediatrician I am so ashamed of my profession.
There are still many great pediatricians. Unfortunately, the giant hospitals and companies make it financially difficult to keep the Hippocratic Oath. I made a point of getting a very conservative, Christian pediatrician, counselor, and teacher for our kid. It's just too dangerous to take them to someone who's going to call DCFS on us because we care.
In my state the madness (gender clinic for kids) didn’t end until state law made it illegal. No other way was it going to end.
Thank you for sharing your story. We have a similar story of a struggling sibling. Our daughter who had everything going for her fell for this delusion in college.
I wonder how common this is, as I see several other comments about similar situations.
I'm holding onto hope that this mass delusion will fade and our sons and daughters will wake up and remember who they are. Praying for all of us and our loved ones.
Thanks for your prayers. We all need them. Our 17-year-old, Linnea, hates her name because it's too feminine. It is heartbreaking. I recently attended a seminar on Gen Z Mental Health. As you can imagine, it's a trainwreck. But there was a strong correlation between good mental health and church attendance (non-"affirming" churches). In addition, mental health increased directly when social media and Internet use decreased.
Yes, I believe there is a strong correlation, now that more churches know what’s happening and how to speak to it. My daughter was raised in a great church, but we live in a smaller town, went to a private Christian school, and had no idea what was happening in regard to this social contagion prior to 2021. My daughter was unprepared for this to be so strongly pushed in college.
I wish I had known to even discuss this at all. She wasn’t on the internet much before her dual enrollment local college classes. That’s when she first discovered it, I believe looking back now, then she went to a university that pushed it, and I’m sure was on the internet constantly during the lockdowns away at school.
She always felt kind of neglected and not able to fix her brother’s problems. This gave her the answers to start over in life as a new person.
Thankfully more people are aware now, and the churches are better equipped to help.
Praying for all of us🙏🏼🙏🏼
I'm so sad reading your story. You did so much to help your babies to live and be healthy and now one of them has taken this destructive path. I know how if feels to live with a child who believes they are trans. You are on eggshells all the time. Your experience with your daughter sounds very like mine with my son - a kid who kept taking up different interests, becoming bored when he knew how they worked. He learned the harmonica - when he was able to play he dropped it, likewise piano. He could have been excellent. Fencing - running,, the list goes on. I did hope that trans might go the same way but as i haven't seen or heard from him for three years I don't have any idea. But I can hope.
We not only grieve the loss of a girl or boy, we grieve for the future we had hoped they would have. Academic, social, success. Health, happiness, children. We are allowed to grieve. Don't let anyone tell you that you haven't experienced profound loss. For me, apart from actually going through with it, I have never experienced anything as stressful and alarming as a suicidal or self-harming child. We eventually had to put her in inpatient to keep her safe (but not at an "affirming" place.) It helped and she has gone two years without self-harm. Praise God.
Please look at what Marcus Evans has been writing about siblings where one is very ill or otherwise struggling, and the other becomes trans identified. Maybe it will help you understand some angles so you can help your child!!
Also, if the MD follows wpath please note that wpath calls for parents to be involved even if the kid is over 18 in some circumstances. Given your bring informed and your history of supporting your child you have claims to being heard!!!
So sorry.
Interesting, we have the same sibling situation and I notice several other parents commenting the same. Thank you for recommending this information; I'll be interested to read it.
Horrible for you watching her go down this rabbit hole. Would you take her so called healthcare away unless she grants you access to her records & are involved in discussions or do you think she’ll dig her heels in or worse, get funding elsewhere. There’s more to life than trying the impossible lie of changing your sex.
‘She is enough’. Indeed. The culture has betrayed us us and our children and they are no longer allowed to just take the time to grow into themselves and learn to just be. I am so sorry. I would advise to NoT send her to college but form another plan. College is a cesspool of this. Not kidding.
You did not mention her social media presence. How much a role did it play and did you try to limit it?