I have not read the Marcus article and I don’t want to. You have encapsulated his errant views here successfully. Your analogy to alcoholism is perfect. Alcohol just like exogenous hormones change a person in some cases into a monster or the very least someone you don’t recognize anymore. You never want to give the keys to the car to an inebriated alcoholic or least of all get in the car with them. Us >non affirming parents > do not want to affirm for a reason. We know it’s wrong, we know it’s harmful and we know it will hurt themselves and possibly others. We have the strength to resist as I suspect this Marcus dude has no strength and is literally a coward. I woke up at 2:30 am a common thing for me since my son abandoned my heart for his trans life. It’s too bad these so called trans people can’t look at themselves and see the damage they are doing to themselves and everyone around them. The ripple effects of one’s own actions against truth are not realized until much later when it’s too late. It’s like divorce it ripples out and changes things that could have been good if you tried and stuck it out a little while longer. If the kid stuck with their pubescent awkward feelings and worked thru them everything would turn out differently and most likely normally. To me the evil is lurking on the internet poisoning every mind that happens upon the wrong group. My hope is that parents keep their young kids away from the internet give them a flip phone fight back the temptations of society to forge a healthier path for their kids.
Author I love your writing but I have a question in one paragraph you say the word “founders” did you mean to write “flounders” ? Anyway thank you for a great response to the delusional James Marcus article.
I hope you send this to James Marcus. It's a travesty that his initial reaction to his son's "transition"was buried as time went on. I've focused on a few ideas in Marcus' piece that are laughable (just four of many). They are examples of how Marcus and many in society are completely unaware of the lies and circular thinking implicit in queer theory. Marcus' writing is in quotes. My own observations follow each quote.
"What seemed novel to me was the idea of using it (female pronoun) sincerely, quietly, without the implicit mockery of gender categories."
Of course, the whole idea of a man cosplaying as a woman is a mockery.
"Then she appeared, tall, long-haired, her nail polish blue, her voice reassuringly deep."
This, a meeting between Marcus and his son after 18 months apart.
"My impression was that the word (boyfriend) was too dull and bougie to be uttered. Perhaps even the relationship, the dusty old dyad of man and woman, was now slightly antique."
From my understanding of queer theory, this is one of the tenants, that a man and woman together (this cisheteronormativity as queer theory calls it) is something to be dismantled, in the same way that being either male or female can be dismantled. The basis of queer theory is to destabilize societal norms, even those that include regular old gays and lesbians. For more on this, read the book linked below.
"Now he (the partner of Marcus' son) was involved with a person whose body had slowly been changing during the entire course of their relationship-or to put it another way, with a woman who had a penis and smooth skin and a rounder face...."
The mental gymnastics here give me a headache. For mercy sakes. The complete erasure of the reality of biological sex. The dystopian thing about this belief system is that thousands appear to buy into it. The book I linked above delves into how queer theory has infiltrated public education systems from K-12 through to higher institutions of learning. It's truly terrifying.
Excellent piece. "Greater forces than these two are steering this ship, though Nat is under the illusion that he’s navigating..." Marcus' complete surrender to his son's delusions AND apparent narcissism doesn't surprise me in the least. As a matter of fact it would surprise me if he ever confronted his son. As far as I'm concerned, there should be a special place in hell reserved for the fathers who affirm.
What a beautiful essay! I do not who you are referring to but I know the New Yorker. Can come something good from NY?
Anyway, this man who wrote this "justification piece" is lame and weak, as all the ones who read it and thinks that he is such a "wonderful and good" father. Is he exalting himself? As "dont let me aside! I, too I am going trough this and accompanying my son in this wonderful thing he is doing". But you made a very good point. I wouldn't label this issue under any ideology only when is pertinent, we don't want here to make it political or personal. The topic is without borders, statically liberal families and states have more transgender people and that is a fact and to know this is useful to study why is that, not to blame anybody per se, maybe some people should change their political and ideological views if they understand that are dangerous for society because we need to work together as a nation and don't let be divided but for that we need to be mature adults that can see at the facts without prejudices, emotions or sentiments. Transgenderism is just a symptom of very deep issues and the degrading of "once" a civilized society, once because since we have doctors medicated children with hormones to stop their natural development, we are not more civilized, and worse we are experimenting on children and people I thought that was prohibited in by the ONU and UN and many international organizations, Nuremberg and all that. Transgenderism in children is a different category than in adults because we have the rights to protect our children not to push them to the cliff as the Etruscan did when a child have some "problem". Infantile transgenderism is an issue that involved the parents and so many other organizations and it must be stopped in courts and by law and docotors and schools and organizations AND parents need to be prosecuted, because I see parents pushing their kids when their kids as usual don't have any idea of what is all abut it. I was watching an English show of a family in which the boy of 8 years old was raised as a girl and how the boy was protesting and telling his mother all the challenges at the school and all, he wanted to play with boys but the boys looked at him as "weird", etc. I don't like these shows but I watched them to see the psychology of these parents and how things work, if you don't know the enemy you cannot fight it. The father is invisible, the mother runs the freak show, in other times when the West was civilized, those children should be removed from that home and the parents in a mental asylum, no nowadays. I said children in plural because there are another couple of "lesbians" that are rising two children in their opposite sex. Where are the rights of the children???? The children have the right to a Mother and a Father, reminds me the adoption by homosexual couples, that shouldn't be allowed by the sake of the children, the two gay couples that I know personally are struggling and their children are already in therapy but I would have tell them what is the problem, they don't have a mother! Those girls are going to school and see Mothers around. What men gay couples say to their adopted or conceived children in repugnant ways ( one of them was explaining how the doctor mixed in vitro both sperms so their chid have more of both, if that is possible. Then they looked for a "womb" to grow the "fetus" and they talked as if they are narrating a vacation trip, so narcissistic and selfish and materialist) to their children when they asked where are their mothers? Everyone has one! In spite they want to put women out of the picture completely and that is the reason why there are trying to create humans in acrylic or glass wombs and experimenting in human life in laboratories all around the world. Yes, everything is connected because the amount of propaganda as the piece in the New Yorker, are everywhere and that shows me that this issue belongs to an agenda, one that the ultimate goal is the destruction of the society and its natural laws, the destruction of humans beings. That is what we are fighting against and they have all the resources, so parens need to do what it takes to protect their children to all costs, sometimes removing their children from negative surroundings.
Please send this to as many publications as possible. We parents dealing with ROGD sons and daughters do live in anguish. We have been traumatized and our sons and daughters groomed. It’s a horrible scourge and the evil will never win.
This article is absolutely full of gems. I felt this very deeply: "In response to a child’s insistent new language, high emotion, and confounding beliefs, adults can sometimes become infected too, and lose touch with their autonomy and agency. This is not parenting. It’s not even personhood." Yes, exactly. I think this is why I had a recurrence of depression. All of a sudden all the words/rules/plans/etc. were upended and I felt like my kid's brain had been hijacked. I wish I could go back and say NO. Just absolutely NO. But we all wish we could "go back," as if it would change anything.
And, "Sometimes things feel right not because they are right, but because they are easier." I can't add to that. It's absolutely perfect.
To whoever wrote this, THANK YOU. You have an amazing way with words, please keep writing and sharing with us. You have a gift.
churchmusiclady, Even if you had said NO, it may have made no difference. Kids and young adults in this cult refuse to listen to those who speak the truth. Blessing to you.
“We let pathological empathy rule our minds instead of grounding ourselves in difficult truth.”
This. It goes beyond trans ideology. Somewhere in the mid-oughts, a trend of “gentle parenting” came about. Now, nobody is authorizing violence or abuse, but this trend in parenting involves getting down to their level and validating every last emotion to absolute death, with lengthy explanations behind every parental decision, all in very “emotionally intelligent” therapist-sanctioned language. Thus we have a generation VERY adept on expressing what they want and how they feel, but are master manipulators, and often don’t know or care how their actions affect others.
Throw in the pathologically empathetic influence of schools, their SEL and deviant sex ed curricula, the YouTube influencers, and a pride children’s section at every Target…it’s a perfect storm.
No one is knocking empathy, but this hits the nail on the head, and it is so analogous to alcoholism: why are we getting in the car with drunk drivers and letting them decide where we go?
If a parent doesn't do this, rescuers will "help" the child. Schools, doctors, community groups, random passerby, glitter relatives, celebrities, those held up as successful...you name it.
I have not read the Marcus article and I don’t want to. You have encapsulated his errant views here successfully. Your analogy to alcoholism is perfect. Alcohol just like exogenous hormones change a person in some cases into a monster or the very least someone you don’t recognize anymore. You never want to give the keys to the car to an inebriated alcoholic or least of all get in the car with them. Us >non affirming parents > do not want to affirm for a reason. We know it’s wrong, we know it’s harmful and we know it will hurt themselves and possibly others. We have the strength to resist as I suspect this Marcus dude has no strength and is literally a coward. I woke up at 2:30 am a common thing for me since my son abandoned my heart for his trans life. It’s too bad these so called trans people can’t look at themselves and see the damage they are doing to themselves and everyone around them. The ripple effects of one’s own actions against truth are not realized until much later when it’s too late. It’s like divorce it ripples out and changes things that could have been good if you tried and stuck it out a little while longer. If the kid stuck with their pubescent awkward feelings and worked thru them everything would turn out differently and most likely normally. To me the evil is lurking on the internet poisoning every mind that happens upon the wrong group. My hope is that parents keep their young kids away from the internet give them a flip phone fight back the temptations of society to forge a healthier path for their kids.
Author I love your writing but I have a question in one paragraph you say the word “founders” did you mean to write “flounders” ? Anyway thank you for a great response to the delusional James Marcus article.
I hope you send this to James Marcus. It's a travesty that his initial reaction to his son's "transition"was buried as time went on. I've focused on a few ideas in Marcus' piece that are laughable (just four of many). They are examples of how Marcus and many in society are completely unaware of the lies and circular thinking implicit in queer theory. Marcus' writing is in quotes. My own observations follow each quote.
"What seemed novel to me was the idea of using it (female pronoun) sincerely, quietly, without the implicit mockery of gender categories."
Of course, the whole idea of a man cosplaying as a woman is a mockery.
"Then she appeared, tall, long-haired, her nail polish blue, her voice reassuringly deep."
This, a meeting between Marcus and his son after 18 months apart.
"My impression was that the word (boyfriend) was too dull and bougie to be uttered. Perhaps even the relationship, the dusty old dyad of man and woman, was now slightly antique."
From my understanding of queer theory, this is one of the tenants, that a man and woman together (this cisheteronormativity as queer theory calls it) is something to be dismantled, in the same way that being either male or female can be dismantled. The basis of queer theory is to destabilize societal norms, even those that include regular old gays and lesbians. For more on this, read the book linked below.
https://identityproject.tv/resources/the-queering-of-the-american-child
"Now he (the partner of Marcus' son) was involved with a person whose body had slowly been changing during the entire course of their relationship-or to put it another way, with a woman who had a penis and smooth skin and a rounder face...."
The mental gymnastics here give me a headache. For mercy sakes. The complete erasure of the reality of biological sex. The dystopian thing about this belief system is that thousands appear to buy into it. The book I linked above delves into how queer theory has infiltrated public education systems from K-12 through to higher institutions of learning. It's truly terrifying.
talk about poetry! What a fantasticly enlightened piece. I hope someone sends it to Marcus, and he hastens to the lighthouse on the shore.
I hope you sent this to him very well written
Excellent piece. "Greater forces than these two are steering this ship, though Nat is under the illusion that he’s navigating..." Marcus' complete surrender to his son's delusions AND apparent narcissism doesn't surprise me in the least. As a matter of fact it would surprise me if he ever confronted his son. As far as I'm concerned, there should be a special place in hell reserved for the fathers who affirm.
What a beautiful essay! I do not who you are referring to but I know the New Yorker. Can come something good from NY?
Anyway, this man who wrote this "justification piece" is lame and weak, as all the ones who read it and thinks that he is such a "wonderful and good" father. Is he exalting himself? As "dont let me aside! I, too I am going trough this and accompanying my son in this wonderful thing he is doing". But you made a very good point. I wouldn't label this issue under any ideology only when is pertinent, we don't want here to make it political or personal. The topic is without borders, statically liberal families and states have more transgender people and that is a fact and to know this is useful to study why is that, not to blame anybody per se, maybe some people should change their political and ideological views if they understand that are dangerous for society because we need to work together as a nation and don't let be divided but for that we need to be mature adults that can see at the facts without prejudices, emotions or sentiments. Transgenderism is just a symptom of very deep issues and the degrading of "once" a civilized society, once because since we have doctors medicated children with hormones to stop their natural development, we are not more civilized, and worse we are experimenting on children and people I thought that was prohibited in by the ONU and UN and many international organizations, Nuremberg and all that. Transgenderism in children is a different category than in adults because we have the rights to protect our children not to push them to the cliff as the Etruscan did when a child have some "problem". Infantile transgenderism is an issue that involved the parents and so many other organizations and it must be stopped in courts and by law and docotors and schools and organizations AND parents need to be prosecuted, because I see parents pushing their kids when their kids as usual don't have any idea of what is all abut it. I was watching an English show of a family in which the boy of 8 years old was raised as a girl and how the boy was protesting and telling his mother all the challenges at the school and all, he wanted to play with boys but the boys looked at him as "weird", etc. I don't like these shows but I watched them to see the psychology of these parents and how things work, if you don't know the enemy you cannot fight it. The father is invisible, the mother runs the freak show, in other times when the West was civilized, those children should be removed from that home and the parents in a mental asylum, no nowadays. I said children in plural because there are another couple of "lesbians" that are rising two children in their opposite sex. Where are the rights of the children???? The children have the right to a Mother and a Father, reminds me the adoption by homosexual couples, that shouldn't be allowed by the sake of the children, the two gay couples that I know personally are struggling and their children are already in therapy but I would have tell them what is the problem, they don't have a mother! Those girls are going to school and see Mothers around. What men gay couples say to their adopted or conceived children in repugnant ways ( one of them was explaining how the doctor mixed in vitro both sperms so their chid have more of both, if that is possible. Then they looked for a "womb" to grow the "fetus" and they talked as if they are narrating a vacation trip, so narcissistic and selfish and materialist) to their children when they asked where are their mothers? Everyone has one! In spite they want to put women out of the picture completely and that is the reason why there are trying to create humans in acrylic or glass wombs and experimenting in human life in laboratories all around the world. Yes, everything is connected because the amount of propaganda as the piece in the New Yorker, are everywhere and that shows me that this issue belongs to an agenda, one that the ultimate goal is the destruction of the society and its natural laws, the destruction of humans beings. That is what we are fighting against and they have all the resources, so parens need to do what it takes to protect their children to all costs, sometimes removing their children from negative surroundings.
James Marcus IS the siren.
What do we want? Christian Nationalism.
When do we want it? Now.
I hope this was sent to the NY TImes!
Poignantly truthful .
Please send this to as many publications as possible. We parents dealing with ROGD sons and daughters do live in anguish. We have been traumatized and our sons and daughters groomed. It’s a horrible scourge and the evil will never win.
This is disgusting! I can’t read your article and I always read your articles!
OMG we can’t read this in the UK!! It says it goes against our online laws!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Huh?? You can’t read this particular article…or you can’t access the newspaper itself? Is it behind a paywall or something or is this censorship?
The British government hasn't been this evil since the Plantagenets
Wow. So well stated.
This article is absolutely full of gems. I felt this very deeply: "In response to a child’s insistent new language, high emotion, and confounding beliefs, adults can sometimes become infected too, and lose touch with their autonomy and agency. This is not parenting. It’s not even personhood." Yes, exactly. I think this is why I had a recurrence of depression. All of a sudden all the words/rules/plans/etc. were upended and I felt like my kid's brain had been hijacked. I wish I could go back and say NO. Just absolutely NO. But we all wish we could "go back," as if it would change anything.
And, "Sometimes things feel right not because they are right, but because they are easier." I can't add to that. It's absolutely perfect.
To whoever wrote this, THANK YOU. You have an amazing way with words, please keep writing and sharing with us. You have a gift.
churchmusiclady, Even if you had said NO, it may have made no difference. Kids and young adults in this cult refuse to listen to those who speak the truth. Blessing to you.
So true. I said NO, it didn't change a thing.
“We let pathological empathy rule our minds instead of grounding ourselves in difficult truth.”
This. It goes beyond trans ideology. Somewhere in the mid-oughts, a trend of “gentle parenting” came about. Now, nobody is authorizing violence or abuse, but this trend in parenting involves getting down to their level and validating every last emotion to absolute death, with lengthy explanations behind every parental decision, all in very “emotionally intelligent” therapist-sanctioned language. Thus we have a generation VERY adept on expressing what they want and how they feel, but are master manipulators, and often don’t know or care how their actions affect others.
Throw in the pathologically empathetic influence of schools, their SEL and deviant sex ed curricula, the YouTube influencers, and a pride children’s section at every Target…it’s a perfect storm.
No one is knocking empathy, but this hits the nail on the head, and it is so analogous to alcoholism: why are we getting in the car with drunk drivers and letting them decide where we go?
If a parent doesn't do this, rescuers will "help" the child. Schools, doctors, community groups, random passerby, glitter relatives, celebrities, those held up as successful...you name it.
The nyt, too.