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Sep 29, 2022·edited Sep 29, 2022

If I was in this situation, I would pull my child from that school that very day. I would enroll in a school that demonstrates sanity, a Christian school, or homeschool. I have seen too much destruction and I love my kids too much to allow this to gain a foothold in their lives. This would be very difficult financially, but I would have to make tradeoffs. Move into a cheaper or smaller home, sell a vehicle and live with one, have my wife or I quit a job and the other get extra income, whatever it took, I would do it for the health of my children.

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We were in the same situation. My daughter had an IEP for emotional disability. Against our parental wishes and against the recommendations of my daughter's clinical team, the school insisted on affirming. They cited Title IX. Once we got lawyers involved, they finally capitulated. More parents need to stand up to the schools. They bank on parents rolling over. Call their bluff! They have no right and no grounds to be doing this to our kids!

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Good on you for fighting for your daughter and your parental rights. Would you please be more specific, though, so other parents may benefit? For example, explain what the attorney said about Title IX. Most people don't know that the Biden administration has not yet succeeded in getting Title IX made binding regarding this issue. I just read that, and don't know the details. Other parents would benefit from far more info you have from paying an attorney, and how you won. Thank you, and again, congratulations!

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Sep 28, 2022·edited Sep 28, 2022

Frightening, and you have my sympathy.

Is changing schools an option or home schooling?

More and more parents, even ones who have never considered home schooling are pulling ressources together and starting homeschooling cooperatives.

It’s a shame that it has come to this, and that parents need to have a real fear of the school system.

I’ve read more than one account of CPS getting involved because parents weren’t “affirmative” enough which is scary.

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I have been so impressed with this group fighting the horrific trans cult. The courage, clarity, caring. And also the wonderful support. So I don't want to just quit, but since yesterday I have been repeatedly harassed by "Jessica Ego Brain." Not just disagreement, but the kind of ridicule and bullying I'm used to getting when talking back to the trans cult. I've had enough of that for over 50 years. Any ideas on how to stop this harassment? I don't see anyway to block or how to object to admin.

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Seriously? Lol You can just stop responding. Repeatedly calling Republicans Nazis and calling me a man is fine? Your insinuations and hate toward men on all those comments is fine? Hate towards whole groups of ppl?

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Trump supporters here, do you support his right wing court and agree that ten year old rape victims be denied the right to an abortion?

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Bev Jo, are you trolling? Are you trying to divide this group? There are both pro Trump and anti Trump here, as well as people from other countries who probably don't care about Trump. Our views on the US ex-president are irrelevant to solving the issue of gender cult. There are tons of places where you can discuss your views on abortion . This is not one of them.

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Of course not. I am trying to stop who does seem like a troll here, and who I suspect is a man pretending to be a woman to make trouble. He tries it in a number of ways, including saying that everyone does have the option and money to move away to protect her child.

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Really? Now you're just making up lies? I said everyone can homeschool. I even explained what I mean by it. Because I lnow that there endless rss ro do so now. There's micro schools and pod schools now. Or they can be started with other parents. There is even online schools if that is the only option. I pointed out that it takes a lot less rime to do homeschool and you can do it whenever you want so working parents can do it around their schedules. My comment wasn't even close to what you're suggesting nor was the intent what you're implying.

This is getting crazy now, Bev. Not one thing I've said has given you any reason to actually think I'm "pretending to be a man."

The entiee conversation started with you calling Republicans, Trump Supporters, etc. Nazis.

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First of all, it’s not “his” right wing court, it’s SCOTUS.

Secondly, SCOTUS did not rule anything even remotely similar to that. SCOTUS simply ruled that there is no constitutional right to an abortion, and that issue should be addressed through legislative means.

Thirdly, not only was Roe vs. Wade a bad decision legally speaking, something even liberal law scholars have acknowledged. It also guaranteed an extremist interpretation of abortion “rights” far out touch with many Americans. And much more permissive than virtually any country in the world.

(Note for example that European democracies have far more stringent rules on abortion than what RvW made possible.)

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His court in that he packed it with more right wing who want to deny women's and girls' rights. Girls and women will die because of this. No concern?

European democracies are much more supportive of girls' and women's rights to abortion. This is sounding like trans talk in terms of altering truth and reality. As well as bullying women who disagree.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/opinion/abortion-texas-mississippi-rape.html

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If by "packed" you mean he appointed them when there was vacancies, which is fhe job, yes.

The Supreme Court isn't trying to deny anyone of anything. That is not their job to give or deny anything. Their job is to interpret law and constitutionality. Their job isn't to please ppl or make laws. Their job is to interpret them and ensure they're constitutional. That is what they've done.

These comments are very NPC like. Perfect parroting.

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You can't stop insulting. They are taking away girls' and women's rights, as well as supporting states to ban abortion and we can assume what is next.

But this does not seem to worry you. In fact, you love it, so will you tell us if you are a man?

Considering how rapist so many men pretending to be women are, girls and women are more vulnerable than ever to these men, and so more needing the protection of laws ensuring abortion rights. A ten year old rape victim had to go to another state to get the abortion that likely saved her life. But you don't care?

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You started out with calling Republicans Nazis so spare me. 🙄

No, they're not "taking away" anything. They're interpreting constitutionality. As is their job. They're "supporting" states making their own laws until an actual law is made from the legislative branch and not the judicial branch (which is what RoeVWade was...law making from the bench) There is nothing giving the federal government the right to make such a determination in the Constitution. Until there is, it needs to go to the states. Read why they made this ruling. It has nothing to do with them wanting to "take away" rights or any other absurdity. It is about the Constitution and the Gov working how it is supposed to. Please take a basic government lesson.

Ah, someone who claims to know what I "love." 😂 Hilarity to the extreme. And I disagree with you so I must be a man? What a sexist comment.

If laws are made allowing it, great. Until then, the federal government has no authority there. It is a states rights issue until a real law is made. By the legislative branch. Not the judicial branch.

No, that 10 yr old wasn't even taken to an abortion facility to even try in Ohio. Ohio allows it up to a heartbeat and has exceptions for the life of the mother, ectopic pregnancy, or serious risk.

"You don't care."

Please, continue to tell me what I care and don't care about. It doesn't make you narcissist to claim to know what I care about at all....(sarcasm)

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Sep 28, 2022·edited Sep 28, 2022

The court isn’t out to deny anyone’s rights, but merely ruled that there is no constitutional right, and that it is an issue that should be decided through legislative means.

(Which should have happened a long time ago.)

As for Europe, abortion laws vary from country to country, but abortion is in general terms only completely free in the first trimester (approximately) and in general terms illegal after the 2nd trimester.

Which is far more restrictive than the old RvW standard in the US.

Now tell me: Are European democracies “bullying” women and “denying” them their rights?

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Anyone denying girls and women the right to an abortion is bullying and denying women's rights. Not our bodies to choose?

Are you a man? You don't seem to care what girls and women are going through.

More than ever before, girls and women are in danger from the men who claim to be women, from sexual assault to rape and being impregnated. But you think the men in government should have say over our choices?

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They aren't "denying" anyone of anything. Their job is only to interpret and determine if it is constitutional or not. That is all. Their job is not to please you. This is why they're not voted in. This is why it is illegal to protest outside their homes. There are basic government classes online for free.

Ah, more sexist comments. Men=doesn't care about women and girls. Gross.

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True though. Are you a man? You sound like one and won't answer.

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Well said again. Haha

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She seems to have the most extreme and incorrect opinions of Trump supporters, Republicans, etc. There's some doozies in this thread. Lol

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Well said.

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Thank you :)

Abortion most likely wouldn’t be a divisive issue, if extremists didn’t insist that they should have the right to abort a child no matter when.

Literally no nation had an abortion law as liberal as under Roe vs. Wade, and states, or congress passing legislation is the only sane way imho.

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Exactly! 👏🏻 Most ppl believe it being allowed, but not for any reason and any time.

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If your daughter decides she is a bird will the case manager help her to the roof and help her leap off to be her own bird self? Every time an adult confirms a child's delusional thoughts regarding their gender they are helping them inch closer to the edge of that roof. They don't actually care what happens to your daughter as long as their twisted ideology is served. Remember, they will never have to pay the consequences of poor decisions your daughter makes due to their toxic influence. They will happily walk her to the edge of a roof but when she steps off they will be turning around to help another confused child make the same magical journey to self destruction. You will be left with the broken body on the sidewalk.

Be bold, fight them every chance you get. She is your daughter not their science experiment. If you have no hope of winning then get your daughter out of that school.

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Every parent concerned about the insidious impacts of these gender ideologies, should never fear speaking out in the public forum. There are many of us across the political spectrum.

One way is to stay on top of legislation that tries to codify ideological agendas into laws. I've already drawn my lines, but this is one red line too far. We have 6 days to submit public comments on the latest from the Dept of Health and Human Services.

See here: https://www.regulations.gov/document/HHS-OS-2022-0012-0001. In essence, this proposal would open the door to punishing doctors and other medical personnel for refusing to perform "gender affirming care" on patients even if it's against their professional medical opinion. It also seeks to redefine discrimination based on sex, to include "gender identity." Insidious at best. We cannot let this pass.

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Sep 27, 2022·edited Sep 27, 2022

OMG do I ever feel this post.

Last year, our daughter had already officially changed her name, gender and pronouns in all of the school systems. When it came time for the IEP with our daughter and all of the school staff, I sat there while they all referred to her with they/them. While she was sitting there. It was the most surreal, dehumanizing and bizarre experience I've ever had as a parent. I continued to use her original name and pronouns throughout the meeting. I wondered if any of them cared about how I must feel. ONly one of them has kids of her own.

She's already told me that all of her support people at school call me "the most transphobic parent ever" (not sure if that's true). You cannot win no matter what you say, or what you do, no matter how much your heart is ripping apart or your face is flushing over with anger at what these people are doing to our children. The only way to "win" is to affirm and celebrate, and I would sooner die myself.

My daughter's school therapist is who I'm sure convinced her to change her name and pronouns in the system. Never mind that my daughter was failing classes, had late assignments, doesn't shower or brush her teeth. Nobody cares about any of the other red flags that are going on despite her being on the medication she thinks solves all of her problems. There is no regard for any of that, only an agenda.

Mine is a senior in HS, so I plan to have a parting shot when it no longer matters. I'm shipping a box of the book "Irreversible Damage" to every staff member at the school, and sharing a piece of my mind over how destructive I think what they're doing is.

I'm sorry you're going through this. You're not alone.

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I am so sorry for your pain! My daughter is a senior as well and I am terrified. As far as "most transphobic parent" I seriously doubt that the adult "support people" say that. Not because I think highly of them, not at all. The phrase just sounds very immature, like something her peers would say.

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I believe it. Have you seen these teachers putting videos up of themselves saying ridiculous and immature things? They do it in huge numbers.

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We have to suppress our anger at what is complete nonsense. Our children are captivated by an evil lie. If we try to argue or state our truth we risk losing a relationship with our child. Weird adults will replace us, stealing our child’s respect. We have no control in this tricky game of chess.

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I'll drop this comment maybe for a bit of levity, or just 'news' from another perch.

My Vancouver civic election collaborator and I hit schools daily with our flyers to catch parents one-on-one. Today, while a dad was deep in convo with me (and including his young son and early-teen daughter in the conversation), my co-campaigner was approached by the trembling-with-rage principal, who had been alerted to our parking-lot visit.

The visibly unhinged principal threatened police if we continued our "hate crimes". Yes, she actually said it (twice). To the schools, campaigning to protect children from all this is a "hate crime." In the brainwashed minds of the "progressive" hypnotized woke, protecting children from a demented, delusional pharma/med-driven ideology IS THE SAME AS ________________ (name an actual hate crime).

Mass hypnosis. "Mass formation," as Mathias Desmet puts it. We can do this (and are doing it) because parents in the middle of it cannot. And this is how the system reacts when it loses control of the narrative. It's incredible to see.

We'll continue til the end of the election (Oct 15). Hope we make some inroads. Canadian MSM is a lost cause, so we're depending on word-of-mouth and alt-media to make waves.

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Why don't you homeschool your daughter?

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That isn't possible for everyone and shouldn't be the only solution!

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Of course it shouldn't be the only solution, but we live in the real world. The prospect of hasty transition on a confused young person is enough of a threat for a family to marshal of their resources and get the child out of there.

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That is what these kids need. Removed from a place that is perpetuating this dangerous ideology.

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That may not be always an option. It also does not resolve the issue of what's going on in our schools.

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It isn't about solving the issues at schools. It is about saving her child's mind and body.

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And not everyone has the money or option.

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Yes, everyone does.

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You are so entitled. Again, are you a man using a woman's name?

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It has notbing to do with entitlement. It has to do with me knowing that there are endless resources to HS, it can be done around the schedules of those who work, pod schools and micro schools are out there and can be created, etc, etc. There is a million ways. Ways that ppl of all types do it. Millions. Most people do not think of it as something that can be done. Like you. It isn't entitlement to point out that they can do anything that they really want to do, Bev.

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Why are you so bigoted, Bev?

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You are correct, trying to deal sanely with insanity... you always lose!

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It’s not impossible that your daughter’s case manager *wants* you to demand correct pronouns and names. Schools have been pressured to take on this craziness and she doesn’t know that you’re not on board. Maybe she’d be quite pleased to be given license by a parent to speak the truth?

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It's not impossible, but it's also not particularly likely.

Social work is the most woke degree field on earth, behind only gender studies and education.

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Facts

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Thank you! It’s been a long and painful journey. I’m still very much on high alert… it’s hard to let your guard down once you’ve lived this nightmare. But the peace that we have regained makes it worth it.

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Thank you for a very well written example of how powerless we mothers feel when faced with the evil force of gender ideology.

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I always took the opportunity to tell the hell out of the wrongness the school was doing to my daughter. Shove it back at them. Make them fear you.

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