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In this past week, I've only just found out about my 16 years old daughter self harming and binding her chest.

I had already read irreversible damage and was quite aware of this social contagion. My daughter has autism and a chromesome duplication disorder. She started this during covid (I was blissfully unaware), I found a letter in our one drive account that she had written. It was just a letter to herself expressing her pain and saying she was binding her chest, this was in 2020, so it's been going on for quite a while.

The first this that came to mind was that she has been brainwashed by a cult.

I googled how to unbrainwash someone. I've been asking curious questions that get her mind ticking.

I asked about them and they. She explained that it meant that she identified as 2 poeple.

I said so I can say "hay, can you two please come here" when I ask her to come.

She said "no that's not right, that's saying I'm t..." And stopped to think.

So we had this back and forth discussion on how using the plural of them and they for one person is ok but I can't say you 'two'. She told me I was making things more complicated than it needed to be.

I left her to think about it.

The thing is with using the unbrainwashing approach, how the hell do I get her off the internet and away from all of her freinds who are the same as her?

I'm worried it will make her mental health worse .

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I sometimes see childless adults glibly directing parents to "just take away the phones and screens" as though we can all step back into 1900.

How is your attempt at deprogramming going...? Somehow we need to make 'being a plain human' okay again for these kids. I think the tide is turning, but not fast enough for anyone.

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Your story was very well written and I could feel the rollercoaster ride of emotions you are on and unfortunately, you and your and daughter are “stuck on” this horrific trans-gender ride. Your truth is so raw and your fear is so real - I feel very sad and worried about your daughter and for all the other confused trans kids who think they know more than their parents, who are being fed lies by therapists and doctors and coached and groomed by their teachers. This cult movement is stealing our children and people in authority are blind! I am so angry and frustrated for you and for all the other parents who are fighting this insane gender war. Do not give up! Stay strong! We must continue to band together and support each other - you are not alone! I pray that the truth is heard around the world quickly and that our innocent children will be rescued - God help us navigate this insanity of deception that is plaguing our world. We need divine intervention…

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Us other affected parents are your life raft for the time being, and the knowledge that the tide seems to be turning somewhat in the UK and other countries, maybe too late for some of our families but you are not shouting into the wind. Love and solidarity to you xxxx

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Have you read the book "Irreversible Damage" by Abigail Shier? Also, here are some people to follow on Instagram: gaysagainstgroomers, libsoftiktok, m.o.m.army, landonstarbuckrhe.trurhfultherapist, joinexitus, widerlenspod, teachers_for_truth, the_11th_hour_blog

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the.truthfultherapist and landonstarbuck on Instagram

The Deprogrammer on Instagram and YouTube

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. I have. It’s a great book. The lack of knowledge isn’t really the issue it’s more like I need to deprogram my kid. We are actually considering a move to the woods. It’s bananas, but I feel like we are there.

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I understand how you feel. Move to a red state if you live Homeschool. Take away your child's access to internet, social media, phone, etc. Your child needs a complete and total digital detox. Find a private, Christian therapist. Focus on the Family has a list of therapists in each state. Take your child out in nature: hike, bike, swim, etc. Glow Kids by Nicholas Kardaras is a great book on screen addiction and how to detox. I think screen addiction is a big part of this transgender issue. Screen addiction is worse than a cocaine addiction according to Kardaras.

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I meant move to a red state if you live in a blue state

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If they smell $ in it, and, if they have an ounce of altruism in them ….. one can hope:)

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I'm super confused. I commented, and another comment was made sharing some resources. I did not write them down assuming I could come back and reference them here. That post from the other person was deleted. It looks like that other person also posted a bunch of comments trying to push the envelope, and now I'm uncertain as to whether that person was banned or just had the posts deleted. Also, I couldn't tell, but it almost seemed like she wrote this "Where's Our Life Raft" post, although I'm not at all certain about that.

Not trying to stir the pot, but honestly would love to know why the original response with the resources was deleted. It seems there have been plenty of comments that spill over into frustration and that do not always use the most sensitive language (I know I've done that myself), but I'm scratching my head about the first one that was deleted.

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Im the author. It wasn’t me. I saw the posts too, I’m guessing they got erased because they were a little out there, sort of a bit unhinged.

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Well, I didn't say explore her gender. Identity is very vague. What I meant was dress or wear your hair what ever way you like. I do not support name or pronouns charges. These girls need to understand that clothes and hair doesn't change their gender. That girls can have a variety of looks, feelings, interests and STILL be girls. We need to get the message across that non feminine girls are still 100% girls. They need strong female non stereotypical role models. Without that, the only message they get is that if they have non stereotypical feelings, thoughts or interests then they are trans. Kids have always experimented with their identity, and typically it was harmless (think emo, punk, goth,

hippie, etc.) Unfortunately for us this trans identity trend is harmful. In the past we understood that kids would outgrow their experimental identity. Now they are permanently damaging themselves with the encouragement of the very people who should be protecting them (doctors, therapist, teachers, etc).

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So-called masculine and feminine traits are personality traits. They have nothing to do with gender or biological sex. Dr. Jordan Peterson talks a lot about this.

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Yes. I absolutely agree. We need to be lifting up our kids, not celebrating them for announcing a new identity.

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Quite serious here: definitely time for a class action lawsuit.

Question: does anyone know who all of this is effecting other countries?

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It is even worse in Canada than in the US. It's bad in Austrailia. I like this site from AU:

https://mercatornet.com/sex-and-society/transgender/

In general GI seems to affect all of the West.

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If you read through PITT posts you can get an idea of the movement in other countries as there are postings from various places, including Australia and South America, England. But overall, the pro-trans movement is slowly getting challenged in northern european countries (Many of these countries were early adopters of trans ideology) where studies finding bad outcomes are gaining strength over pro-trans frenzy.

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I agree and I have wondered when the lawyers will jump on board. Hard to find lawyers that don’t lean hard left.

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The law schools have been rigorously indoctrinating students to put "equity" before the law. Yes. Before the law. So they decide who gets a defense and who doesn't. Guilty before proven innocent is the order of the day.

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Thank you for sharing this.

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Sit and watch a weekend of classic teen movies: Election, 10 Things I hate About you, Little Miss Sunshine, 16 Candles, Ladybird, The Breakfast Club, Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Notice, idly, a few days later, how 'gender' is not a part of one single plot.

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Thankful to be a 70’s-80’s kid.

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Stay strong and continue being the guard-rail for your child. Become as close as you possibly can with her - time together, gifts, shower her with love, do crafts together, organize trips with her and her friends. It's a marathon of endurance and courage. Changing the subject -- in about 2 months we are releasing a 70-minute documentary film on detransitioners - those young adults who have autism, or were gay, or were traumatized, and were quickly shoved down the medicalization path. The vulnerable youth whose parents could not be the GUARD RAIL for their kids because they were fed garbage disinformation. Our goal is to get as many decision-makers to watch it. All parents who published their stories on PITT will be getting a link to the documentary to watch it. The website for the doc will be going live around Sept 1st when we unveil the trailer. We, all parents, torpedoed by this madness must keep ringing the bell. Also, remember, elections are coming. As a life-long voting Democrat I've never thought in my life that I will live to say, "I hope the GOPs save us from this hell." But here we are.... Stay strong. Best of luck.

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Spending time with your kid is a "marathon of endurance?'

The sad part is you're probably right.

No coincidence that this is disproportionately happening to parents who were previously checked out of parenting.

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So grateful that you have taken the bull by the horns and will release this doc. Huge. I look so forward to getting into the hands of everyone I know - especially in the hands of our school administrators, local pediatricians, politicians - left and right . . .

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Same here. Dem for 25 years now will for GOP because I am a single issue voter…well maybe two issues: child transitioning and school choice. But they go hand-in-hand. Dems have one bright light— Tulsi Gabbard in HI.

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I am in the same boat politically -- yes, please GOP stand firm and save us from this hell!

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Please keep us posted about your documentary! We need it!

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Agreed.

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https://protecttitle9.org/

Follow this link to comment on the Biden Administration's very toxic proposed changes to Title IX

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I have no clue whatsoever how to save your child, so this is just brainstorming. But my argument is, nothing we have yet tried has eased the targets on the backs of our kids. So we need fresh and more aggressive ideas.

I apologize, because some things are only available to the affluent. Can your job be done remotely? How about in person, but be done anywhere in the US or world? A nurse, for example, can earn a living anywhere. So can a computer coder. But it is hard to do many jobs away from where you currently live. That said, if possible:

* Get the heck out of where you live, as fast as you can.

* Put your views on other issues aside until your kids are 18+ or 21+, and get your family ASAP to a red county in a red state. (Sorry, but it's true.) There will be plenty of time to be pro-choice and anti-carbon emissions when your kids are grown. For now, FOCUS ON THE SURVIVAL OF YOUR CHILDREN.

* Move to a rural area. They are not all Neanderthals as the MSM pretends. But they DO tend to believe in family more than elites and 'experts.'

* If staying where you are now: of course, home school if at all possible. (TBH, I don't think I could manage it.) Pods can also work: a \very carefully\ vetted educator becomes full time teacher/tutor to a handful of kids with like-minded parents. 'School' can be a different home each week. Etc.

* Sue, sue, sue. Every teacher, every administrator, every doctor. Reach out to anti-cult non-profit legal interest groups. (They tend to be conservative. Sorry.) They might take your case pro bono to try to make national policy via the courts.

* Sue more. Malpractice, etc.

* Get loud. If you decide your child is 'lost' (God forbid) to the cult, then staying quiet is no longer needed to avoid making your child the focus of public attention. When all is lost, what have you got to lose?

* Make the cultists famous. A teacher groomed your kid? He or she should be a household name in your community..... Ditto for the principal. The therapist. The physician. The hospital. There is no right in the Constitution for adults to eagerly destroy your child *and not face public scrutiny*.

* Do you see how people are destroying the serenity of Supreme Court Justices' neighborhoods (violating federal laws about harassing judges) because they disagree with a judicial opinion that will likely never personally affect them? Your kids are being destroyed by people WHOSE NAMES YOU KNOW. Shouldn't they get some of that kind of attention?

In other words, do what you would do if armed intruders were invading your home to steal your children. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

Ditto for the grandparents of these children. Stop playing canasta and SAVE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN.

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The movie “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” comes to mind...

I have a 19yo trans identifying daughter, my only child, and it’s been 4 years since I’ve had a private conversation with her... 4 YEARS!! The worst part is she lives with her dad, who calls her “he/him/they” and a male name. Her dad, a (former?) skeptic, now that he has completely drunk the Koolaid, is oblivious to the dangerous road she is on. TikTok is also a huge influence on her - she has a channel and has had her ego inflated by her anonymous “numbers” (likes, followers, views). Total strangers!

I wish I could be loud, but I would just be ostracized that much more, and I’m already as ostracized as one can get.

I’m the proverbial “transphobic”, “TERF“ mom, lifetime Democrat (not extreme left!!), “unsupportive, non affirming” supportive parent who is a grown adult female former dedicated Tomboy! I can’t catch a break...

She was as girly growing up as I was adamantly insisting that I wanted to be a boy as a child! I definitely believe that she was heavily influenced by the internet, TV shows (mostly cartoons, anime and such), Cosplay, and her peers, not to mention the influence of older friends in the environment at her dad’s house. She wanted to fit in and then lead, be a star... She’s been in therapy, I think she’s still on prescription medication, but may be dabbling in illegal substances. Her dad is still oblivious, even to that. But we can’t control her - I - can’t control her life, she’s supposedly an “adult” ... I remember how non-adult I was at her age. Oh boy... I wish I could talk to her. I really do.

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My heart goes out to you 😞

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Absolutely agree. Get the hell out of the swamp y’all are swimming in. Now.

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I support your comment except the “most aren’t Neanderthals.” I’m sure you meant well. The truth is that this portrayal is Hollywood at its finest. Those types are in every state. And are a minority of a minority. It’s been appealing to the masses to watch shows and pretend like it’s one region. I grew up in Alabama and most of the people I know have more class and kindness than the countless places I’ve visited.

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Excellent brainstorming. The house is on fire - save your child.

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I said something like this before, please bear with me, but this is the next generation’s version of GOTH, where the kids would act depressed, wear black clothing, dressing a lot like Wednesday Adams (TV's Adams Family) and be withdrawn and utterly anti-social.

However, the Goth kids never got drugs that were approved by adults who SHOULD know better and surgery to remove perfectly healthy body parts.... causing sterilization and a lifetime of expensive medication, also approved by adults who SHOULD know better!

Many of those Groomer Adults are making a fortune pushing this rot, while kids just plane rot!

Half of the problem is where the kids are spending their time on “Social Media” and at poorly run schools, and the Groomer adults that they deal with.

Put this question to the kids: “Are you willing to be sterilized for life and never have the proper body parts to really enjoy sex, is this a decision you are willing to make now, at your age?”

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There is a reason why most girls self-identify as non-binary or agender.

Groomers understand that it's hard to convince intelligent girls that they can become boys. Instead, they brainwash girls that their female bodies trap them into oppressive stereotypes which force them to become wives and mothers. Becoming gender non-binary is "liberation from oppressive stereotypes," and coercing 'transphobic' parents to affirm transition is 'winning' the war for true diversity and inclusiveness.

These kids (and some single, emotionally vulnerable young women) honestly believe that their anime names and exotic identities represent who they are forever, and they will have to change their minds. They don't want the proper body parts because they think that these are the wrong parts; they don't want to be able to enjoy sex because they believe that sexual relationships are oppressive; they are willing to be sterilized because "the Earth is overpopulated and babies contribute to the global warming."

The only solution for school-aged youths I can see is to pull them away from schools, strictly limit their internet access, and find a community of like-minded families where kids could find real friends and re-occupy their minds with reality.

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You present a lot of sense, and I appreciate your input, you have given me a lot to think about.

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Thank you.

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I have not researched it yet but have read that some of the Trans drugs and procedures can make it impossible for the victims to have an orgasm. IF TRUE, that alone might be able to derail the cult. Seriously. Imagine if every tween and teen in America knew that they were risking the ability to feel sexual pleasure for their entire lives. That is WAYYYY more understandable to most kids than infertility. The #1 underreported, but most important, thing, IF true.

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This is true when puberty blockers are given at earliest sign of puberty start (about age of 11-12, Tanner stage 2). And then the kid goes from PB to cross hormones. In that case natural processes of sexual maturation that are dependent on sex hormones are hindered. Testicles and ovaries don't develop, so you won't be able to experience orgasm or to have kids.

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Yes. Dr. Mark (who calls himself "Marci" now) Bowers is on record saying that no child put on PBs at Tanner stage 2 has ever experienced an orgasm. You can find this easily if you google it, or look through some of the archives at Transgender Trend, 4th Wave Now, Genspect, etc. There's a recording of a Zoom call with a bunch of gender "experts" from around the U.S. who were also on the call, so they can't say they didn't know.

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Bowers says this specifically about natal boys. I've been trying to understand why girls wouldn't have the same effects. In that Zoom call, Bowers remarks on lack of orgasmic capacity together with sterility in boys. On the latter point, there is theoretically a possibility of removing a piece of ovary and getting the eggs to ripen, as girls are born with a full complement of eggs. (This is absolutely Frankenstein-thinking, and I'm skeptical it would ever work - but there's research in this area mostly to help child cancer survivors, iirc.) For boys - Tanner 2 blockade followed by cross-sex hormones will result in sterility, full stop, no workaround imaginable.

Anyway, my suspicion is that girls will also be anorgasmic if puberty is halted at Tanner 2, but I just haven't found any information on it.

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You make an excellent point M Zine!

I will change my record of this post!

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Reading your rant it could have been my family as I know so many of us have the same story. You gave me hope just knowing none of us going through this are doing it alone; though some days it sure feels like it. Here's to hoping all our kids find their way out of this hell and that the 'professionals' wake up soon before an entire generation is damaged beyond recognition. If you're in the Sacramento area I want to be your friend!

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