Thank god for non-binary and the absolute illogic and lunacy of it all. It has finally revealed what parents have known all along — this transgender youth thing is a made up, cultish quasi-religion, not an innate, immutable feeling. If non-binary surgery is a thing (ie, in support of your non-binary gender identity, take wrong sex hormones in “regular” or “micro” doses, amputate your breasts, remove your nipples, create a “smooth” genital area — essentially de-sex your sexed body), then no longer does the narrative of "I have a female brain in a male body” or vice versa make any sense.
“being gay is not an immutable characteristic, it’s made up, these men are abusing their bodies by exposing themselves to hiv and getting prolapsed anuses, but the new calls us hateful for saying this out loud, why can’t the gays just love our disdain toward them? why can’t they just accept that normal people see them as lesser and evil beings without calling us bigots?”
Your supposition falls at the first hurdle. I'm 3 months off being 50 and have defined as genderqueer (the older version of non-binary) for around 2 decades. Youth cult? Not in my life.
Consider this: if one has been in the position of being flooded with a given sex's defining hormones for 10 years, one has been indelibly shaped by that. The problem is only exacerbated the longer this happens. Now, I've had nearly 4 decades of this, so for me, transitioning would not be feasible. I would be unable to escape the personality changes, let alone the physical. So, for me, my true identity is trans, but I have to settle for non binary.
I grew up with no role models. I've spent a lifetime trying to be what society wants of me, and failing. I've had countless people sense something is wrong and bully or harass me. From my point of view, a young person could be on a voyage of exploration where they end up returning to the sex they were born with; they may end up transitioning; they may end up enjoying presenting ambiguously and wish to stay in this - the critical thing is, the longer they stay expressing a gender in which they don't belong and being affected by hormones incompatible with their inner understanding of themselves, the worse it'll be for them.
You also miss the point that non-binary doesn't necessarily mean genderless. It could mean having the freedom to express elements of whichever gender, depending on mood/need, as a mix or as a specific gender, without the societal expectations and baggage which always surround gender.
It's a shame your opinion is so narrow. You have the potential - as does any human - to be welcoming, kind and considerate of those around you, instead of forcing them into a box which doesn't fit. It involves no effort on your behalf. It just makes the world a tiny but nicer. Why not try it?
You're forcing expectations on yourself. Women spent decades fighting to end gender stereotypes and here you are, building them back up.
No, them having mutilating surgeries, taking off healthy tissue, taking drugs that have life long consequences, etc is the worst it will be dor them. The best would be to accept their normal, healthy body and express themselves however they want.
Gender stereotypes have been abandoned mostly in western countries. There is freedom to express yourself without having to endure cosmetic surgery or dangerous medical interventions. The word “gender” has become distorted in meaning. We are a binary species, so saying you are non binary is denying reality.
I am sorry for your distress, but can you consider how these gender-essentialst notions are taking us backwards? I don't mind how people show up … in the 90s I took an older AGP friend shopping for his first bra and thought nothing of it. I called him by his female name when he was cross-dressing and his male name when he wasn't, as requested.
Gender expression is meaningless to me; I consider it a prison; a trap. I love being a woman, but I also do all the manual and technical labour around the house - as well as all the cooking etc. As a teenager I took apart motorbikes and serviced my own car. I wear beautiful silk fabrics and utilitarian clothes depending on what I'm doing. This freedom of gender expression is available to you too… No one is forcing you into a box. I worked long and hard for over half my life to accept myself, and unstitch from the good and bad opinions of others. You are free to do the same. It was hard, but worth it.
Most importantly, an idea of what the opposite sex is like is only an idea; a projection; a fantasy. Eg, 'women' don't feel a certain way, and I'm guessing men don't either. While we may be essentially defined by our biology, in 2022 we are free to present and live as we please, while being respectful to others.
"I've spent a lifetime trying to be what society wants of me, and failing. I've had countless people sense something is wrong and bully or harass me." And unless you stop - your distress will continue. This entire thing is based in self-loathing. It is truly tragic that we are teaching children that their validation should be external. God made you perfect already. This epidemic is due to a lack of belief that we are all made in the image and likeness of God and are wholly connected to one another and the universe. Your "gender" is irrelevant - your integrity, your contribution, your ability to use the gifts you were given to serve others, these things will bring about peace, self worth and the feeling of belonging you seek. I feel for you, I truly do. There is no such thing as a gender identity. Just be yourself. I just don't get this! Why is that so hard?
Yes, and teaching them that they must mutilate their bodies and take drugs that will have life long effects and even make them sterile in order to "feel right." That is incredibly psychologically damaging. It is so sad how people are encouraging such negative things on kids.
I have sympathy for you in your lifelong distress. However, your situation is not the focus of this discussion. Research, and learn, as the families of victimized children have had to do. If you want to be "welcoming, kind and considerate" please consider questioning yourself as to whether you would wish your issues on the most vulnerable of us all. These children already have issues of their own, mental and emotional, and they are being indoctrinated into thinking that this gender insanity is true. They are being told that chemicals, surgery, and hormones will remedy their redirected pain. If you would have this world even a tiny bit nicer, try having compassion for the flood of children and young adults and their families having to live with the aftermath of reality.
The point of this substack is to discuss the harms of non-reversible treatments being administered to children. An inordinate amount of nonsense is being peddled by TRAs including the odious lie that humans can change their sex. This is having a real harm on families as children are being groomed and lied to by degenerate autogynephiles about the wonders of destroying their adolescent bodies via hormones. Then there are the lies being foisted on them by the medical community that everyone should just applaud like trained seals whenever a child makes a declaration regarding their identity. Gender dysphoria is a serious mental illness so why are we having parties to celebrate it? Would we do that for someone diagnosed with schizophrenia? Obviously not, but because of the sexual component, there is a willful blindness on the part of those who know better to just go along because the degenerate TRA mob of mostly angry mentally-ill males will fall on them and ruin their reputations. That has created a dangerous climate for families and especially for girls. So-called therapists driven by ideological fervour are intruding into the family dynamic to the ruin of both child and parents but to the triumph of the trans cult. Females are the primary target of AGP/TW fury as they embody the thing that no AGP/TW can ever be, i.e., an actual female. So TRAs work to use their nonsense claims of being a protected class to close female-only rape shelters and ruin and despoil every female thing that they can in their pathetic exercise in mental-illness driven vanity.
P.S. Here's some free advice: no one cares about your identity--we are not here to reinforce your self-perception.
Your hopeful future is predicated on there being some remnant of respect for facts and logic that will reassert itself. But I fear that transism jumped the shark almost from the outset. Once the original theory of gender dysphoria as a pathology that might be alleviated with drugs and surgeries was replaced with an all-encompassing gender ideology that applies to everyone, we moved into a world of pseudoscience. Anything goes now, and reasonableness means giving every ten year-old the body of their dreams. Our best hope is the exploding population of detransitioners…many of whom ironically settle on the non-binary label because they’re been so brainwashed that they can’t imagine who they are outside the gender framework.
While I couldn't agree with you more about the absurdity of it all, I remain amazed at how widely accepted this already is. Trans was just one, very effective, step in the grooming, imho. Also, the narrative is quickly changing to body mod as a service and the activism is directed toward bodily autonomy (at least that's how my transIDed daughter now talks about it) Wonder what the grift will be to get it covered by insurance...?
Hate to say it but my two daughters identify as NB and the eldest one at 18 wants her breast removed and at doctors office when I asked if she’s NB what would she be transitioning to? The Response from the nurse practitioner who is seeing my daughter was ‘well everyone chooses to expressed their gender identity in different ways.’ And insurance will pay because they are still considered trans and with gender dysphoria as a diagnosis. Bonkers
Wow, I'm so sorry. That is awful. If they want to "express their gender" differently, that is fine. Wear different clothes and behave how you want. The pushing of surgeries to "feel" right is so appalling. And by our medical "professionals" no less. 🙄 Between covid and this cult, Idk if the mistrust in science/medicine will ever be regained.
it is insane. Parents should be able to trust therapists and medical doctors to see through the facade, and explore the underlying issues. This is body dysmorphia and body dissociation just in a different form. A trendy, social media driven form. It is so insane that the medical community is letting us down. I am so mistrustful and disillusioned. It is handmaid's tale meets the Salem witch trials meets Munchausen
Completely illogical as you would expect from a cult driven by mentally ill people. The horror of it is that the medical people ought to know better. They are captured by a lie. I keep saying it is eugenics in disguise. So far nobody has tried to disprove that.
This is part of what those medical professionals see: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Even the doctor (a gay plastic surgeon) I had during breast cancer surgery to reconstruct my breasts working alongside my breast cancer surgeon will work on trans kids/youth/teens/adults as it turned out… and oh does he love getting tan on his Florida vacations… 🙄
It sickened me when I found out… and my male identifying daughter might hypothetically be his future patient 😱😢🥺🤬🤯 !!!!
I keep seeing that many governments are happily promoting and protecting transgenderism which is a euphemism for sterilisation. It is technically eugenics as a high proportion of the vulnerable youth falling captive to the lie are in the autistic spectrum. My daughter chose to be sterilised in this way because she “does not want to pass on autism genes”. The cost of looking after autistic people is high, so why no let them be trans (sterilised)? It is unethical deceit.
here’s what you people sound like to me,
“being gay is not an immutable characteristic, it’s made up, these men are abusing their bodies by exposing themselves to hiv and getting prolapsed anuses, but the new calls us hateful for saying this out loud, why can’t the gays just love our disdain toward them? why can’t they just accept that normal people see them as lesser and evil beings without calling us bigots?”
the irony is palpable
btw, i’ve never heard of such surgeries.
what am i gonna see next?
ramblings plagiarized from francis e. dec about the worldwide communist gangster computer god sending deadly touch tarantula spiders at your doorstep?
Genius genius genius exposition. Thank you.
Thank you for putting into words what so many families are thinking.
Your supposition falls at the first hurdle. I'm 3 months off being 50 and have defined as genderqueer (the older version of non-binary) for around 2 decades. Youth cult? Not in my life.
Consider this: if one has been in the position of being flooded with a given sex's defining hormones for 10 years, one has been indelibly shaped by that. The problem is only exacerbated the longer this happens. Now, I've had nearly 4 decades of this, so for me, transitioning would not be feasible. I would be unable to escape the personality changes, let alone the physical. So, for me, my true identity is trans, but I have to settle for non binary.
I grew up with no role models. I've spent a lifetime trying to be what society wants of me, and failing. I've had countless people sense something is wrong and bully or harass me. From my point of view, a young person could be on a voyage of exploration where they end up returning to the sex they were born with; they may end up transitioning; they may end up enjoying presenting ambiguously and wish to stay in this - the critical thing is, the longer they stay expressing a gender in which they don't belong and being affected by hormones incompatible with their inner understanding of themselves, the worse it'll be for them.
You also miss the point that non-binary doesn't necessarily mean genderless. It could mean having the freedom to express elements of whichever gender, depending on mood/need, as a mix or as a specific gender, without the societal expectations and baggage which always surround gender.
It's a shame your opinion is so narrow. You have the potential - as does any human - to be welcoming, kind and considerate of those around you, instead of forcing them into a box which doesn't fit. It involves no effort on your behalf. It just makes the world a tiny but nicer. Why not try it?
You're forcing expectations on yourself. Women spent decades fighting to end gender stereotypes and here you are, building them back up.
No, them having mutilating surgeries, taking off healthy tissue, taking drugs that have life long consequences, etc is the worst it will be dor them. The best would be to accept their normal, healthy body and express themselves however they want.
Gender stereotypes have been abandoned mostly in western countries. There is freedom to express yourself without having to endure cosmetic surgery or dangerous medical interventions. The word “gender” has become distorted in meaning. We are a binary species, so saying you are non binary is denying reality.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I am sorry for your distress, but can you consider how these gender-essentialst notions are taking us backwards? I don't mind how people show up … in the 90s I took an older AGP friend shopping for his first bra and thought nothing of it. I called him by his female name when he was cross-dressing and his male name when he wasn't, as requested.
Gender expression is meaningless to me; I consider it a prison; a trap. I love being a woman, but I also do all the manual and technical labour around the house - as well as all the cooking etc. As a teenager I took apart motorbikes and serviced my own car. I wear beautiful silk fabrics and utilitarian clothes depending on what I'm doing. This freedom of gender expression is available to you too… No one is forcing you into a box. I worked long and hard for over half my life to accept myself, and unstitch from the good and bad opinions of others. You are free to do the same. It was hard, but worth it.
Most importantly, an idea of what the opposite sex is like is only an idea; a projection; a fantasy. Eg, 'women' don't feel a certain way, and I'm guessing men don't either. While we may be essentially defined by our biology, in 2022 we are free to present and live as we please, while being respectful to others.
"I've spent a lifetime trying to be what society wants of me, and failing. I've had countless people sense something is wrong and bully or harass me." And unless you stop - your distress will continue. This entire thing is based in self-loathing. It is truly tragic that we are teaching children that their validation should be external. God made you perfect already. This epidemic is due to a lack of belief that we are all made in the image and likeness of God and are wholly connected to one another and the universe. Your "gender" is irrelevant - your integrity, your contribution, your ability to use the gifts you were given to serve others, these things will bring about peace, self worth and the feeling of belonging you seek. I feel for you, I truly do. There is no such thing as a gender identity. Just be yourself. I just don't get this! Why is that so hard?
Yes, and teaching them that they must mutilate their bodies and take drugs that will have life long effects and even make them sterile in order to "feel right." That is incredibly psychologically damaging. It is so sad how people are encouraging such negative things on kids.
I have sympathy for you in your lifelong distress. However, your situation is not the focus of this discussion. Research, and learn, as the families of victimized children have had to do. If you want to be "welcoming, kind and considerate" please consider questioning yourself as to whether you would wish your issues on the most vulnerable of us all. These children already have issues of their own, mental and emotional, and they are being indoctrinated into thinking that this gender insanity is true. They are being told that chemicals, surgery, and hormones will remedy their redirected pain. If you would have this world even a tiny bit nicer, try having compassion for the flood of children and young adults and their families having to live with the aftermath of reality.
The point of this substack is to discuss the harms of non-reversible treatments being administered to children. An inordinate amount of nonsense is being peddled by TRAs including the odious lie that humans can change their sex. This is having a real harm on families as children are being groomed and lied to by degenerate autogynephiles about the wonders of destroying their adolescent bodies via hormones. Then there are the lies being foisted on them by the medical community that everyone should just applaud like trained seals whenever a child makes a declaration regarding their identity. Gender dysphoria is a serious mental illness so why are we having parties to celebrate it? Would we do that for someone diagnosed with schizophrenia? Obviously not, but because of the sexual component, there is a willful blindness on the part of those who know better to just go along because the degenerate TRA mob of mostly angry mentally-ill males will fall on them and ruin their reputations. That has created a dangerous climate for families and especially for girls. So-called therapists driven by ideological fervour are intruding into the family dynamic to the ruin of both child and parents but to the triumph of the trans cult. Females are the primary target of AGP/TW fury as they embody the thing that no AGP/TW can ever be, i.e., an actual female. So TRAs work to use their nonsense claims of being a protected class to close female-only rape shelters and ruin and despoil every female thing that they can in their pathetic exercise in mental-illness driven vanity.
P.S. Here's some free advice: no one cares about your identity--we are not here to reinforce your self-perception.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Your hopeful future is predicated on there being some remnant of respect for facts and logic that will reassert itself. But I fear that transism jumped the shark almost from the outset. Once the original theory of gender dysphoria as a pathology that might be alleviated with drugs and surgeries was replaced with an all-encompassing gender ideology that applies to everyone, we moved into a world of pseudoscience. Anything goes now, and reasonableness means giving every ten year-old the body of their dreams. Our best hope is the exploding population of detransitioners…many of whom ironically settle on the non-binary label because they’re been so brainwashed that they can’t imagine who they are outside the gender framework.
While I couldn't agree with you more about the absurdity of it all, I remain amazed at how widely accepted this already is. Trans was just one, very effective, step in the grooming, imho. Also, the narrative is quickly changing to body mod as a service and the activism is directed toward bodily autonomy (at least that's how my transIDed daughter now talks about it) Wonder what the grift will be to get it covered by insurance...?
it's already covered by insurance. that is the scary tragedy of this whole thing.
Yeah, I gathered after reading through the remaining comments. It's crazy-making!
I'm praying for the continued momentum of sanity - cultish - quasi religion nails what it is
This has got to be stopped.
Hate to say it but my two daughters identify as NB and the eldest one at 18 wants her breast removed and at doctors office when I asked if she’s NB what would she be transitioning to? The Response from the nurse practitioner who is seeing my daughter was ‘well everyone chooses to expressed their gender identity in different ways.’ And insurance will pay because they are still considered trans and with gender dysphoria as a diagnosis. Bonkers
Wow, I'm so sorry. That is awful. If they want to "express their gender" differently, that is fine. Wear different clothes and behave how you want. The pushing of surgeries to "feel" right is so appalling. And by our medical "professionals" no less. 🙄 Between covid and this cult, Idk if the mistrust in science/medicine will ever be regained.
it is insane. Parents should be able to trust therapists and medical doctors to see through the facade, and explore the underlying issues. This is body dysmorphia and body dissociation just in a different form. A trendy, social media driven form. It is so insane that the medical community is letting us down. I am so mistrustful and disillusioned. It is handmaid's tale meets the Salem witch trials meets Munchausen
Exactly!
Completely illogical as you would expect from a cult driven by mentally ill people. The horror of it is that the medical people ought to know better. They are captured by a lie. I keep saying it is eugenics in disguise. So far nobody has tried to disprove that.
TESTIFY!
PREACH!
EXCELLENT. Thank you.
It's hard to believe there are any doctors willing to mutilate other human beings like this.
This is part of what those medical professionals see: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Even the doctor (a gay plastic surgeon) I had during breast cancer surgery to reconstruct my breasts working alongside my breast cancer surgeon will work on trans kids/youth/teens/adults as it turned out… and oh does he love getting tan on his Florida vacations… 🙄
It sickened me when I found out… and my male identifying daughter might hypothetically be his future patient 😱😢🥺🤬🤯 !!!!
And yet there are so many.
so, so many
Don't worry, the doctors will just say these people asked for it, it's on them.
Or, i just did what the therapists told me they needed. And the therapists will say, the doctors told me it was safe and appropriate.
Just following orders and raking in the cash.
Like the Nazis did.
Yep! Clients not patients.
I keep seeing that many governments are happily promoting and protecting transgenderism which is a euphemism for sterilisation. It is technically eugenics as a high proportion of the vulnerable youth falling captive to the lie are in the autistic spectrum. My daughter chose to be sterilised in this way because she “does not want to pass on autism genes”. The cost of looking after autistic people is high, so why no let them be trans (sterilised)? It is unethical deceit.