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𝖇𝖚𝖌𝖇𝖊𝖆𝖗𝕿𝕾's avatar

here’s what you people sound like to me,

“being gay is not an immutable characteristic, it’s made up, these men are abusing their bodies by exposing themselves to hiv and getting prolapsed anuses, but the new calls us hateful for saying this out loud, why can’t the gays just love our disdain toward them? why can’t they just accept that normal people see them as lesser and evil beings without calling us bigots?”

the irony is palpable

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𝖇𝖚𝖌𝖇𝖊𝖆𝖗𝕿𝕾's avatar

btw, i’ve never heard of such surgeries.

what am i gonna see next?

ramblings plagiarized from francis e. dec about the worldwide communist gangster computer god sending deadly touch tarantula spiders at your doorstep?

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Indio's avatar

Thank you for putting into words what so many families are thinking.

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Snick650's avatar

Your supposition falls at the first hurdle. I'm 3 months off being 50 and have defined as genderqueer (the older version of non-binary) for around 2 decades. Youth cult? Not in my life.

Consider this: if one has been in the position of being flooded with a given sex's defining hormones for 10 years, one has been indelibly shaped by that. The problem is only exacerbated the longer this happens. Now, I've had nearly 4 decades of this, so for me, transitioning would not be feasible. I would be unable to escape the personality changes, let alone the physical. So, for me, my true identity is trans, but I have to settle for non binary.

I grew up with no role models. I've spent a lifetime trying to be what society wants of me, and failing. I've had countless people sense something is wrong and bully or harass me. From my point of view, a young person could be on a voyage of exploration where they end up returning to the sex they were born with; they may end up transitioning; they may end up enjoying presenting ambiguously and wish to stay in this - the critical thing is, the longer they stay expressing a gender in which they don't belong and being affected by hormones incompatible with their inner understanding of themselves, the worse it'll be for them.

You also miss the point that non-binary doesn't necessarily mean genderless. It could mean having the freedom to express elements of whichever gender, depending on mood/need, as a mix or as a specific gender, without the societal expectations and baggage which always surround gender.

It's a shame your opinion is so narrow. You have the potential - as does any human - to be welcoming, kind and considerate of those around you, instead of forcing them into a box which doesn't fit. It involves no effort on your behalf. It just makes the world a tiny but nicer. Why not try it?

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Jessica's avatar

You're forcing expectations on yourself. Women spent decades fighting to end gender stereotypes and here you are, building them back up.

No, them having mutilating surgeries, taking off healthy tissue, taking drugs that have life long consequences, etc is the worst it will be dor them. The best would be to accept their normal, healthy body and express themselves however they want.

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Person's avatar

Gender stereotypes have been abandoned mostly in western countries. There is freedom to express yourself without having to endure cosmetic surgery or dangerous medical interventions. The word “gender” has become distorted in meaning. We are a binary species, so saying you are non binary is denying reality.

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Jessica's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Jolene's avatar

"I've spent a lifetime trying to be what society wants of me, and failing. I've had countless people sense something is wrong and bully or harass me." And unless you stop - your distress will continue. This entire thing is based in self-loathing. It is truly tragic that we are teaching children that their validation should be external. God made you perfect already. This epidemic is due to a lack of belief that we are all made in the image and likeness of God and are wholly connected to one another and the universe. Your "gender" is irrelevant - your integrity, your contribution, your ability to use the gifts you were given to serve others, these things will bring about peace, self worth and the feeling of belonging you seek. I feel for you, I truly do. There is no such thing as a gender identity. Just be yourself. I just don't get this! Why is that so hard?

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Jessica's avatar

Yes, and teaching them that they must mutilate their bodies and take drugs that will have life long effects and even make them sterile in order to "feel right." That is incredibly psychologically damaging. It is so sad how people are encouraging such negative things on kids.

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Indio's avatar

I have sympathy for you in your lifelong distress. However, your situation is not the focus of this discussion. Research, and learn, as the families of victimized children have had to do. If you want to be "welcoming, kind and considerate" please consider questioning yourself as to whether you would wish your issues on the most vulnerable of us all. These children already have issues of their own, mental and emotional, and they are being indoctrinated into thinking that this gender insanity is true. They are being told that chemicals, surgery, and hormones will remedy their redirected pain. If you would have this world even a tiny bit nicer, try having compassion for the flood of children and young adults and their families having to live with the aftermath of reality.

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Hugh Manatee's avatar

The point of this substack is to discuss the harms of non-reversible treatments being administered to children. An inordinate amount of nonsense is being peddled by TRAs including the odious lie that humans can change their sex. This is having a real harm on families as children are being groomed and lied to by degenerate autogynephiles about the wonders of destroying their adolescent bodies via hormones. Then there are the lies being foisted on them by the medical community that everyone should just applaud like trained seals whenever a child makes a declaration regarding their identity. Gender dysphoria is a serious mental illness so why are we having parties to celebrate it? Would we do that for someone diagnosed with schizophrenia? Obviously not, but because of the sexual component, there is a willful blindness on the part of those who know better to just go along because the degenerate TRA mob of mostly angry mentally-ill males will fall on them and ruin their reputations. That has created a dangerous climate for families and especially for girls. So-called therapists driven by ideological fervour are intruding into the family dynamic to the ruin of both child and parents but to the triumph of the trans cult. Females are the primary target of AGP/TW fury as they embody the thing that no AGP/TW can ever be, i.e., an actual female. So TRAs work to use their nonsense claims of being a protected class to close female-only rape shelters and ruin and despoil every female thing that they can in their pathetic exercise in mental-illness driven vanity.

P.S. Here's some free advice: no one cares about your identity--we are not here to reinforce your self-perception.

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Jessica's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Beeswax's avatar

Your hopeful future is predicated on there being some remnant of respect for facts and logic that will reassert itself. But I fear that transism jumped the shark almost from the outset. Once the original theory of gender dysphoria as a pathology that might be alleviated with drugs and surgeries was replaced with an all-encompassing gender ideology that applies to everyone, we moved into a world of pseudoscience. Anything goes now, and reasonableness means giving every ten year-old the body of their dreams. Our best hope is the exploding population of detransitioners…many of whom ironically settle on the non-binary label because they’re been so brainwashed that they can’t imagine who they are outside the gender framework.

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StoicMom's avatar

While I couldn't agree with you more about the absurdity of it all, I remain amazed at how widely accepted this already is. Trans was just one, very effective, step in the grooming, imho. Also, the narrative is quickly changing to body mod as a service and the activism is directed toward bodily autonomy (at least that's how my transIDed daughter now talks about it) Wonder what the grift will be to get it covered by insurance...?

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Anonamom's avatar

it's already covered by insurance. that is the scary tragedy of this whole thing.

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StoicMom's avatar

Yeah, I gathered after reading through the remaining comments. It's crazy-making!

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Mama's avatar

I'm praying for the continued momentum of sanity - cultish - quasi religion nails what it is

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Alicia Ochs's avatar

This has got to be stopped.

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Jolene's avatar

PREACH!

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Lisa Salamone Coaching's avatar

EXCELLENT. Thank you.

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JC_Collins's avatar

It's hard to believe there are any doctors willing to mutilate other human beings like this.

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ScreamingCatCactus6's avatar

This is part of what those medical professionals see: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Even the doctor (a gay plastic surgeon) I had during breast cancer surgery to reconstruct my breasts working alongside my breast cancer surgeon will work on trans kids/youth/teens/adults as it turned out… and oh does he love getting tan on his Florida vacations… 🙄

It sickened me when I found out… and my male identifying daughter might hypothetically be his future patient 😱😢🥺🤬🤯 !!!!

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LovingMother's avatar

And yet there are so many.

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Anonamom's avatar

so, so many

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for the kids's avatar

Don't worry, the doctors will just say these people asked for it, it's on them.

Or, i just did what the therapists told me they needed. And the therapists will say, the doctors told me it was safe and appropriate.

Just following orders and raking in the cash.

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LovingMother's avatar

Like the Nazis did.

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Jolene's avatar

Yep! Clients not patients.

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Jessica's avatar

Wow, I'm so sorry. That is awful. If they want to "express their gender" differently, that is fine. Wear different clothes and behave how you want. The pushing of surgeries to "feel" right is so appalling. And by our medical "professionals" no less. 🙄 Between covid and this cult, Idk if the mistrust in science/medicine will ever be regained.

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Anonamom's avatar

it is insane. Parents should be able to trust therapists and medical doctors to see through the facade, and explore the underlying issues. This is body dysmorphia and body dissociation just in a different form. A trendy, social media driven form. It is so insane that the medical community is letting us down. I am so mistrustful and disillusioned. It is handmaid's tale meets the Salem witch trials meets Munchausen

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Jessica's avatar

Exactly!

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Person's avatar

Completely illogical as you would expect from a cult driven by mentally ill people. The horror of it is that the medical people ought to know better. They are captured by a lie. I keep saying it is eugenics in disguise. So far nobody has tried to disprove that.

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Person's avatar

I keep seeing that many governments are happily promoting and protecting transgenderism which is a euphemism for sterilisation. It is technically eugenics as a high proportion of the vulnerable youth falling captive to the lie are in the autistic spectrum. My daughter chose to be sterilised in this way because she “does not want to pass on autism genes”. The cost of looking after autistic people is high, so why no let them be trans (sterilised)? It is unethical deceit.

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