I watched my daughter perform with her chorale group last night. She has always had a naturally beautiful voice and loves to sing. She saw me as I was looking for a seat and asked to see the program. She said "Dad's going to be mad—I'm with the tenors".
The transgender movement has caused severe alienation within our family - not this bad, but it is still as if a bomb of never-ending sorrow went off between us.
Literally has taken the joy of life away. Nothing is anything to look forward to anymore. I want my joy back and pray it will come back and all this will go away. It’s all we can do
If there was anything going at the school behind your back, and if you have the emotional strength, you could sue as other parents have done. I have seen lawsuits being directed at schools. Likely Google will pull up the names. If your daughter is open to it, show her Cat's story. I have met the lovely Cat, a singer/songwriter whose voice was harmed by testosterone. She has been quite open about her story and the harms it caused.
The best advise that was given to me at the beginning was “pull your child out of public school, separate her from her friend group and monitor/control her internet use.” I took this advise immediately upon finding out that my daughter had been secretly identifying as a male in the 8th grade. Although my family is not religious, I enrolled her in a Catholic high school where gender ideology is NOT recognized. The school provides counseling for these issues and does not affirm. My daughter is now a sophomore and has a great new friend group and has dropped gender ideology. It was hell getting to this point and there were lots of sacrifices to be made, but it worked. My husband and I did not ever affirm her wishes to be a male. It killed me to see her so upset with us but it would kill me more to see her go down the path of transitioning. Kids get over being mad at their parents!
AllyY, I know you’re right. Honestly, not being dramatic here, I think it’s time for a March on Washington. I have never felt so clear about the need to March for anything before. To my mind, this is an insidious effort to destroy the fabric of this country- family. Much like Red China, back in the red scarf days. Separate children from their parents. Teach the children to report parents, teachers anyone who resists the regime’s doctrine. I find myself in awe of the numbers who seem to blindly follow this and defend this ideology. It’s as if they’ve been drugged. The drug is brainwashing. This is not political. I see through PITT that this cult is blind to red or blue. We are facing a real , visceral threat to the world we know.
"This is not political. I see through PITT that this cult is blind to red or blue." I strongly disagree. The transcult is most definitely political it is entirely coming from team blue. The only elected politicians and activist groups that are opposing the transcult are Republicans, right wing Christians and traditional values Republicans. Although gender critical feminists are saying and doing some things, they have not been effective at all on their own but rather only find an audience and attention from mostly right wingers.
The entertainment establishment, media, publics school districts and academia that continue to push the transcult gender blender are all institutions that are captured by the left wing of team blue. Even on this forum, despite all evidence to the contrary, members of team blue continue to ignore and down play that is only Republicans that have initiated and passed laws to weaken and stop the transcult. There is not a single Democrat politician in this country that has condemned even a whiff of the most insane and damaging behaviors and ideas coming from the transcult.
Furthermore, most of the kids and young adults swept up in this are coming from white progressive, middle class, left wing families in states and cities that are almost exclusively represented by team blue.
This pandora's box isn't going to get the lid closed on it until those who have been hurt and taken advantage of by the transcult realize, this is a political matter and it is absolutely coming from Democrat voters who are stridently and staunchly on team blue.
I agree, it is as though the blind followers have been drugged. I would March in New Zealand if I could meet others in their right minds, drug free. I feel unsafe, as though my writings are being censored by people trying to destroy the fabric of society- family.
My sister passed away today. She was in a locked ward (Covid).
The nurse I spoke to on the phone was not allowed to tell me my sister was dying so I did not visit. I was just enquiring about her health. She cheerfully told me she was not sure she could tell me any more than that she was sleeping. Confidentiality rules. Common sense and compassion died years ago in the health service/business.
Oh my God, I can't believe a nurse said she was not allowed to tell you about your sister. Is that a law in New Zealand? That is vile. I am so sorry about your sister.
New Zealand has some vile laws supporting the gender madness. The latest I heard is that a speaker wanting to visit New Zealand is to be refused entry because she has been labelled “anti trans”. She is promoting the belief that women are entitled to be regarded as biologically women and that biological men have no right to invade their bathrooms. This seems common sense, but the New Zealand government has a problem not understanding this.
New Zealand has replaced church with things like this act which is designed to cover up sin. When health professionals make mistakes they are protected by this act. People can not find out what actually happened. Instead of recognising that humans are fallable and we all make mistakes, this act makes it impossible to recognise mistakes/sin. There is no need for forgiveness when people are so conceited that they think they are all powerful.
Same with the health professionals in the transgender business. They are beyond reproach, protected by various government acts.
I attended the hearings for SB 14 in the Texas Senate State Affairs committee yesterday. I learned a new term used with the gender indoctrination crowd. When a kid is being counseled on a trans social media site and complains of depression or anxiety or expresses dismay at their body, and is later talked into embracing the concept that he/she was born in the wrong body, “they” refer to it as “cracking the egg.” How does that make us feel. Our babies are looked at as eggs.
hmm, socialists and communists sometimes say about innocent people caught up in purges, "ya got a crack a few eggs to make an omelet". Lenin is said to have repeated this adage when he purged the mensheviks from the bolsheviks after the October Communist Revolution in 1917. There's a lot of socialists, Marxists, communists and leftists in the transcult.
Yes, that is exactly what they do through their porn and ubiquitous grooming of our entire society. This "egg cracking" business is just an accelerated form of it practiced primarily by the mentally ill and frankly sociopathic men who have medicalized themselves in order to further their own fetish. Vile.
Our situations share some similarities in the Dad/husband department. A part of me feels good cop, bad cop might not be such a bad thing. I’ve never seen my husband express such raw emotion as he did when our daughter announced her intentions to assume the role of a male. It devastated him. There’s a part of me that hopes it will make her second guess all of this when he finally tells her exactly how he feels. That day is bound to come in the not so distant future. As of right now he intends to cut ties with her upon starting T as the first step prior to surgery. He states he won’t witness it or put himself through it. She bears the name of his deceased mom, lost at the tender age of 8 years old. He couldn’t wait to give her that name. He refuses to call her by any other name.
I understand his pain and his anger.
While I totally disagree with my daughter’s choices. I’m not willing to lose her completely. But I won’t subject him to what’s to come. Navigating all of this will be difficult. But somehow we’ll make it work. I don’t envy your predicament.
Hopefully your daughter’s actions are an indication of indecisiveness & she’ll decide to remain consistent with her biological sex. I wish you & your family all the best & I’m so sorry you have to go through this. I pray for all of us daily. Please do the same.
I agree with your husband. I would be furious!! Without any doubt, the schools are pushing children toward this transgender ideology. I would sue into financial devastation every school official who exposed my child to this dangerous ideology. Gender dysphoria is not physical, it is mental. Mental confusion can be overcome with compassion, therapy, and counseling. Mutilation a child using surgery or hormones blockers is truly an act of evil. Our kids deserve better.
No, you can do more and you can be precise about it. Clear communication is elementary. Hide not behind taboos, because that is a mask that kills you. There is something at stake and you must be willing to talk about it.
You and your husband are one flesh, but also one couple that can talk with her about how you feel about all of this. More important, talk about how she sees this! Let her explain this new landscape to you as if you are a visitor to another planet, which you are in a way, as this new narrative changed its culture in ways hard to understand if you are not a teenager.
No pressure, just curiosity. Ask instead of pointing out. Question where you doubt. Set rules.
Look at consequences, think about your true identity. You are love, but love is not openness alone! Show her pictures of her as a child casually and of yourself. Talk about your feelings. Be honest and connected. Be respectful but true. Prepare her for the world.
Life can be very confusing and it is hard to orientate yourself when so many conflicting feelings push and pull one through the clouds of memes and opinions.
It's confusing for people who want to be too agreeable to transcult pushers and enablers and don't want to be seen as disagreeable or argumentative. However, this isn't going to end until there are enough disagreements, arguments and push back. The average Democrat voter is far too agreeable with any insanity the left wing churns out on any and all issues. They are far too willing to accept "different truths" from "my truth" tellers no matter how ridiculous, wrong and fantastical that personal experience is. Those Democrat voters and progressive ideologues who are not willing to unite with the right wingers in combatting and ending the transcult are going to doom us all to failure if they continue to put right wingers in the deplorable basket and think a small, quiet voice of moderate hesitation is going to reverse this gender blender insanity. Small, still quiet voices work for the Holy Spirit but don't work in the realm of politics and culture. Until Democrat voters are able to see clearly enough to take their votes away from Democrats and punish the insanity by putting Republicans in office, the Democrats and the people who administer the institutions they captured are not going to change and will simply take the votes for granted.
In every one of these stories springs up thoughts and feelings I frequently struggle to put on paper. Thank you for sharing. I too was able to “rise above and enjoy the moment” when our son sang in the college choir but it’s a moment, a quickly passing moment, as reality soon comes rushing back in. The telling of the differences in you and your husband is so very common in these cases. I am not surprised as it is usually the men who go to combat.
Why would you ever get an Dr appt for this? Why would you pickup the prescription? Why would you not take it away from you daughter?? Your husband has the right reaction except he should take it out on you. Shame on you. Also I’m not affirming my own daughter because it’s insanity. She’s not suicidal and this is all bs. Stop falling for it. Don’t pick up anymore testosterone.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. Do not pick up ANY TESTOSTERONE prescription for your daughter. Don’t do what you don’t believe. That is the lesson your daughter will follow for the rest of her life. It could save your future grandchild when and if her or his mother is presented with the insidious ideology of that future era.
I didn’t see anywhere in this story that these parents are giving their child testosterone? I can see how you would be angry as you are evidently fighting this battle as well but to say “shame on you”? I say this mom is making a great effort to love without compromising truth.
She will become even more brainwashed in college 😔
The transgender movement has caused severe alienation within our family - not this bad, but it is still as if a bomb of never-ending sorrow went off between us.
Literally has taken the joy of life away. Nothing is anything to look forward to anymore. I want my joy back and pray it will come back and all this will go away. It’s all we can do
If there was anything going at the school behind your back, and if you have the emotional strength, you could sue as other parents have done. I have seen lawsuits being directed at schools. Likely Google will pull up the names. If your daughter is open to it, show her Cat's story. I have met the lovely Cat, a singer/songwriter whose voice was harmed by testosterone. She has been quite open about her story and the harms it caused.
https://www.iwf.org/identity-crisis-cat/
The best advise that was given to me at the beginning was “pull your child out of public school, separate her from her friend group and monitor/control her internet use.” I took this advise immediately upon finding out that my daughter had been secretly identifying as a male in the 8th grade. Although my family is not religious, I enrolled her in a Catholic high school where gender ideology is NOT recognized. The school provides counseling for these issues and does not affirm. My daughter is now a sophomore and has a great new friend group and has dropped gender ideology. It was hell getting to this point and there were lots of sacrifices to be made, but it worked. My husband and I did not ever affirm her wishes to be a male. It killed me to see her so upset with us but it would kill me more to see her go down the path of transitioning. Kids get over being mad at their parents!
Why put the blame on the mother when it is the father who threatens to sue the school but does nothing?
AllyY, I know you’re right. Honestly, not being dramatic here, I think it’s time for a March on Washington. I have never felt so clear about the need to March for anything before. To my mind, this is an insidious effort to destroy the fabric of this country- family. Much like Red China, back in the red scarf days. Separate children from their parents. Teach the children to report parents, teachers anyone who resists the regime’s doctrine. I find myself in awe of the numbers who seem to blindly follow this and defend this ideology. It’s as if they’ve been drugged. The drug is brainwashing. This is not political. I see through PITT that this cult is blind to red or blue. We are facing a real , visceral threat to the world we know.
"This is not political. I see through PITT that this cult is blind to red or blue." I strongly disagree. The transcult is most definitely political it is entirely coming from team blue. The only elected politicians and activist groups that are opposing the transcult are Republicans, right wing Christians and traditional values Republicans. Although gender critical feminists are saying and doing some things, they have not been effective at all on their own but rather only find an audience and attention from mostly right wingers.
The entertainment establishment, media, publics school districts and academia that continue to push the transcult gender blender are all institutions that are captured by the left wing of team blue. Even on this forum, despite all evidence to the contrary, members of team blue continue to ignore and down play that is only Republicans that have initiated and passed laws to weaken and stop the transcult. There is not a single Democrat politician in this country that has condemned even a whiff of the most insane and damaging behaviors and ideas coming from the transcult.
Furthermore, most of the kids and young adults swept up in this are coming from white progressive, middle class, left wing families in states and cities that are almost exclusively represented by team blue.
This pandora's box isn't going to get the lid closed on it until those who have been hurt and taken advantage of by the transcult realize, this is a political matter and it is absolutely coming from Democrat voters who are stridently and staunchly on team blue.
I agree, it is as though the blind followers have been drugged. I would March in New Zealand if I could meet others in their right minds, drug free. I feel unsafe, as though my writings are being censored by people trying to destroy the fabric of society- family.
My sister passed away today. She was in a locked ward (Covid).
The nurse I spoke to on the phone was not allowed to tell me my sister was dying so I did not visit. I was just enquiring about her health. She cheerfully told me she was not sure she could tell me any more than that she was sleeping. Confidentiality rules. Common sense and compassion died years ago in the health service/business.
Oh my God, I can't believe a nurse said she was not allowed to tell you about your sister. Is that a law in New Zealand? That is vile. I am so sorry about your sister.
New Zealand has some vile laws supporting the gender madness. The latest I heard is that a speaker wanting to visit New Zealand is to be refused entry because she has been labelled “anti trans”. She is promoting the belief that women are entitled to be regarded as biologically women and that biological men have no right to invade their bathrooms. This seems common sense, but the New Zealand government has a problem not understanding this.
The privacy act is over the top.
New Zealand has replaced church with things like this act which is designed to cover up sin. When health professionals make mistakes they are protected by this act. People can not find out what actually happened. Instead of recognising that humans are fallable and we all make mistakes, this act makes it impossible to recognise mistakes/sin. There is no need for forgiveness when people are so conceited that they think they are all powerful.
Same with the health professionals in the transgender business. They are beyond reproach, protected by various government acts.
Eternal Rest, grant onto Person's sister, Oh Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her. May she rest in peace. Amen
I don't know if you're religious or not, but I am. I'm sorry you lost your sister today. I'm sorry the nurse couldn't tell you that and misled you.
Thanks she is at peace
I attended the hearings for SB 14 in the Texas Senate State Affairs committee yesterday. I learned a new term used with the gender indoctrination crowd. When a kid is being counseled on a trans social media site and complains of depression or anxiety or expresses dismay at their body, and is later talked into embracing the concept that he/she was born in the wrong body, “they” refer to it as “cracking the egg.” How does that make us feel. Our babies are looked at as eggs.
hmm, socialists and communists sometimes say about innocent people caught up in purges, "ya got a crack a few eggs to make an omelet". Lenin is said to have repeated this adage when he purged the mensheviks from the bolsheviks after the October Communist Revolution in 1917. There's a lot of socialists, Marxists, communists and leftists in the transcult.
https://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com/vladimir-lenin <--- Look at the adage repeated under Lenin's pic in this link.
Scary tactics. Everyone has a shell of sorts by necessity of life. Cracking it is like breaking your natural immunity to madness.
Yes, that is exactly what they do through their porn and ubiquitous grooming of our entire society. This "egg cracking" business is just an accelerated form of it practiced primarily by the mentally ill and frankly sociopathic men who have medicalized themselves in order to further their own fetish. Vile.
Angry, protective toward our babies but painfully powerless to stop this madness
Praying for her.
Is there anywhere on this site that indicates how many members it encompasses?
Our situations share some similarities in the Dad/husband department. A part of me feels good cop, bad cop might not be such a bad thing. I’ve never seen my husband express such raw emotion as he did when our daughter announced her intentions to assume the role of a male. It devastated him. There’s a part of me that hopes it will make her second guess all of this when he finally tells her exactly how he feels. That day is bound to come in the not so distant future. As of right now he intends to cut ties with her upon starting T as the first step prior to surgery. He states he won’t witness it or put himself through it. She bears the name of his deceased mom, lost at the tender age of 8 years old. He couldn’t wait to give her that name. He refuses to call her by any other name.
I understand his pain and his anger.
While I totally disagree with my daughter’s choices. I’m not willing to lose her completely. But I won’t subject him to what’s to come. Navigating all of this will be difficult. But somehow we’ll make it work. I don’t envy your predicament.
Hopefully your daughter’s actions are an indication of indecisiveness & she’ll decide to remain consistent with her biological sex. I wish you & your family all the best & I’m so sorry you have to go through this. I pray for all of us daily. Please do the same.
How heartbreaking to read about the name. It’s sweet to read of the strength in your marriage.
I agree with your husband. I would be furious!! Without any doubt, the schools are pushing children toward this transgender ideology. I would sue into financial devastation every school official who exposed my child to this dangerous ideology. Gender dysphoria is not physical, it is mental. Mental confusion can be overcome with compassion, therapy, and counseling. Mutilation a child using surgery or hormones blockers is truly an act of evil. Our kids deserve better.
No, you can do more and you can be precise about it. Clear communication is elementary. Hide not behind taboos, because that is a mask that kills you. There is something at stake and you must be willing to talk about it.
You and your husband are one flesh, but also one couple that can talk with her about how you feel about all of this. More important, talk about how she sees this! Let her explain this new landscape to you as if you are a visitor to another planet, which you are in a way, as this new narrative changed its culture in ways hard to understand if you are not a teenager.
No pressure, just curiosity. Ask instead of pointing out. Question where you doubt. Set rules.
Look at consequences, think about your true identity. You are love, but love is not openness alone! Show her pictures of her as a child casually and of yourself. Talk about your feelings. Be honest and connected. Be respectful but true. Prepare her for the world.
Life can be very confusing and it is hard to orientate yourself when so many conflicting feelings push and pull one through the clouds of memes and opinions.
It's confusing for people who want to be too agreeable to transcult pushers and enablers and don't want to be seen as disagreeable or argumentative. However, this isn't going to end until there are enough disagreements, arguments and push back. The average Democrat voter is far too agreeable with any insanity the left wing churns out on any and all issues. They are far too willing to accept "different truths" from "my truth" tellers no matter how ridiculous, wrong and fantastical that personal experience is. Those Democrat voters and progressive ideologues who are not willing to unite with the right wingers in combatting and ending the transcult are going to doom us all to failure if they continue to put right wingers in the deplorable basket and think a small, quiet voice of moderate hesitation is going to reverse this gender blender insanity. Small, still quiet voices work for the Holy Spirit but don't work in the realm of politics and culture. Until Democrat voters are able to see clearly enough to take their votes away from Democrats and punish the insanity by putting Republicans in office, the Democrats and the people who administer the institutions they captured are not going to change and will simply take the votes for granted.
And I echo your words
"You took my joy and I want it back"
💔😔💔😔💔😔💔😔💔
In every one of these stories springs up thoughts and feelings I frequently struggle to put on paper. Thank you for sharing. I too was able to “rise above and enjoy the moment” when our son sang in the college choir but it’s a moment, a quickly passing moment, as reality soon comes rushing back in. The telling of the differences in you and your husband is so very common in these cases. I am not surprised as it is usually the men who go to combat.
Why would you ever get an Dr appt for this? Why would you pickup the prescription? Why would you not take it away from you daughter?? Your husband has the right reaction except he should take it out on you. Shame on you. Also I’m not affirming my own daughter because it’s insanity. She’s not suicidal and this is all bs. Stop falling for it. Don’t pick up anymore testosterone.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. Do not pick up ANY TESTOSTERONE prescription for your daughter. Don’t do what you don’t believe. That is the lesson your daughter will follow for the rest of her life. It could save your future grandchild when and if her or his mother is presented with the insidious ideology of that future era.
I didn’t see anywhere in this story that these parents are giving their child testosterone? I can see how you would be angry as you are evidently fighting this battle as well but to say “shame on you”? I say this mom is making a great effort to love without compromising truth.