That must be so damn hard to see him try his best shot at living a lie.
Not sure for your son but many guys have bought into the shaming of toxic masculinity crap and feel some "redemption" at escaping their male status by pretending to be a woman.
Some men are indeed toxic and so are women. But men and women's complementariness is a gift to the world.
I had to relearn that truth and reconcile with the beauty of those differences to find my peace
I pray your son will open his eyes and embrace the reality of his wholesomeness as a man and will eventually find his peace living as his authentic self, reconciled with his family and himself
Tough letter to write, and a tough letter to read. It breaks my heart for all of you parents who have lost a child to this evil-ideology. You are doing the right thing by not affirming him. The last thing he needs is for you to "pretend" along with him because as you said, he will never be your daughter. Ever.
Stay strong. Keep the home fires burning. We all understand how difficult this journey is for you and your family. Best wishes.
Keep the calm in madness take a lot of strength and courage. Good for you! One of the common argument of the people that are now ditransitioning or untransitioning, coming back to what they were before ( though is not possible completely, thing they understand) is that all the world around them including the parents supported them, it wasn’t any person in their lives who showed doubts of what they were doing, that would have been a deterrent for many of going ahead in castrated themselves or any extreme surgery. Obviously gender disphory is a mental condition and sometimes also is an act of rebellion against their families for none resolved issues in the familiar dynamic, so I always agree with parents who stay firm and aren’t part of the deception but in a loving assurance that they will be there to scoop the pieces of a fallen human being. We have right now so many gender regrets and their testimonies are helping to deter this agenda a little bit, we need to share those testimonies the most we can, also Dr Myriam Grassman is doing a lot to wake up people. We need opposed in all the areas this insanity. Thanks for share!
What horror, what a nightmare. I have not seen my son for I think 2 years, it may really be 3 or longer but my brain cannot hold on to the time passing, I am crushed with grief as we all are here. I don't expect ever to see him again. I dread to see or think what hormones are doing to him. I don't even know if he has had surgery. His cruelty, his madness is beyond comprehension.
Rachel I’ve been keeping an eye on estrangement and the longest I’ve seen is 13 years but after that contact does happen. And years fly. Time flies. Keep the faith. Keep praying.
I am sorry, OP, for what your family is going through. Your realization is a sound and insightful one. I wonder how many of our children have a motivation that's related to one of the parents - whether it's they want to be more like a parent they admire or less like a parent they might butt heads with. Reading your post made me think my daughter might do anything to not be like me (we have always butt heads). When she goes on T, she's going to look like a small, delicate replica of her father. God help us all through this insanity.
My son, too. It's beyond insulting to my husband who was so kind, so loving toward my son, who with his autistic traits required more parerenting effort. While I understand there is pervasive awful enabling going on, my son is dismissive of his actual loving parents, ungrateful and so disrepectful -- but that's what cults encourage.
I’m so sorry. It’s just crushing to love them so much, and then see them hurting themselves so badly. It breaks my heart. I just pray they all come to their senses and come home.
I'm sorry to the dad who wrote this. All of us parents in this understand. I hope that someday, this will all be over for us and we can start to heal our families, if that is possible.
It has been a year since I have seen my son. We sent him money for his birthday and told him we loved him. Either he forgot or intentionally did not reach out on our birthdays or for Mother’s and Father’s Day. I guess this is the new norm. My husband and I will be visiting a daughter who lives within an hour of our son the end of this month. I have told my husband that he is free to go and try and visit our son but I cannot bear to do it. I do not think I have the stomach to see what the estrogen has done to him after a year. Also, he tries to speak with what he perceives as a woman’s high voice and it puts me in a rage. After seeing what our daughter has done to herself with testosterone, I am too traumatized to see anything more. My heart breaks for you, my friend.
I'm so sorry the cult has captured two of your children. When people think this is just who they are, how many families have two gay children? It's quite rare, but the number of families with two trans siblings is increasing. I'm not sure what I would characterize not reaching out for holidays or even anytime - but a new norm doesn't seem quite right. My son indoctrinated is 3 years estranged and my older ally son is going on 10 months.
Yep. I know of a family where the younger child transitioned, evidently with the parents’ full support, and a few years later, the older sibling did so as well. I’m guessing older sibling was jealous of attention paid to younger sibling. WTF. 🤷♀️
I know several families that have siblings that are trans. It could just be the siblings succumbed to the indoctrination influenced by their sibling and social media rather than jealousy. It's possible because this is a cult that is like no other.
I’m so sorry that the cult has trapped two of your children. I have lost one and I don’t think my sanity would survive if I lost two. This is a double assault on you and your husband.
Thank you, Natalia. How could any of us know what devastation was coming our way? I still can’t believe it sometimes. I am doing much better now than I was a year ago. I still have this pain in my heart so I am going to go have it checked out to see if it’s heart ache or heart disease.
Fortunately I had no severe physical illness but I have been so depressed that I struggle getting out of bed sometimes. My ex had a stroke and a bleed in the brain. Nobody who causes this can possibly be on the right side of history. Please take care of yourself. My best wishes for a speedy recovery
I'm so sorry. My beautiful daughter now sounds like and looks like her father, who she doesn't even like or talk to anymore. It all hurts so much for so many parents.
You said it all; makes me cry because I feel the same way for my daughter who wants to change herself physically and I am utterly devastated. God help us all.
Your letter, written out of love of a relationship, will benefit many parent/child relationships in the long run. I pray for the day you son becomes open to those sentiments.
It’s crazy the fervor with which they exude in their efforts to erase their past in order to convince themselves and their cult peers they “belong”. If they were addicted to drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc… people would understand our desperation and heartache and loss offering help to lead them out of this lifestyle. WHERE IS OUR HELP? The government now funds it and private industry feeds it! Communities hide away our children from us as “we are the enemy”. Where is the humanity in turning fetishes and fantasy into reality? That’s not true love. That’s not true compassion. That’s pure evil.
Is this why they do it? That was my theory too. I told my daughter that she probably wanted to be a man because she loved her father and brother very much. She still run away from home and stopped talking to us, which caused her father to have a stroke. She has ignored her father’s stroke, and doesn’t seem to give a damn about him, or her brother or me. Yesterday was a sad Father’s Day
This sounds like my family. My son’s dad had a serious accident in May and then it lead to a blood clot to brain and my son could care less. Doesn’t reach out to ask my oldest son how he’s doing. I have gone quiet on him since June has started because I’m sad that my dad died last July and he missed the funeral and his dad is hurt and not one care in the world. This cult has really messed up my son and family. I’m just broken and pray everyday for us parents to have it stop. Hugs
I'm sorry, I understand the estrangement, my son's are estranged. I don't understand how they can be so cruel, except by framing this as they are captured by a cult. It's absolutely mind-bending what this ideology has done. It's a cult that our kids have been indoctrinated into for various reasons. I'd love to know how many are smart, sensitive, kids vs smart extroverted kids who got captured.
The glitter family dishes out a lot of lovebombing. Presumably after this phase there will come an enforcement phase where the cult will use blasphemy accusations against our children and finally they will get fed up with it and leave?
I don't know. The Germany study gives me some "hope" that our kids will come out. For boys - 7-10 years on average. I wonder why some longer than others? What is the magic sauce?
It probably takes about that long for the detrimental health effects from the wrong-sex hormones to start piling up and become undeniable and intolerable. Before that time, perhaps many trans people would still be trying to "make it work" because they have so much invested in it.
And it may take that long for some to admit that switching genders did not solve their life problems.
They have to 1) admit to themselves it didn't solve their problems. 2) Understand the sunk cost fallacy and let go of the years they put into the alter-ego and all the validation it got them.
I read once an article on some awful Colombian revolutionary cult, I can’t remember but someone had left after ten years and had written about it. Yes, ten years seems right.
So many “why” questions that may go unanswered. I’m sorry for your pain, Natalia. It must be so hard to have your daughter ignore your husband’s stroke while simultaneously trying to morph into being just like him - - the man she once loved so much. I’m a supporter of PITT parents and don’t think I would have survived the pain you folks are enduring because of this pernicious trans craze among youth. I just weep and pray for you all.
Please carry on praying for us. It is really important and appreciated. God really listens to the righteous. God actually loves the righteous to pray to Him.
How heartbreaking what this cult has done to our once compassionate and caring children. They have a newfound hatred for anything that could possibly bring them sane consideration for what they are doing. It’s as if they have been overtaken body and mind. These zombies are NOT our children. I will fight with everything to find a “cure” to this mind virus and remove the pharmaceutical fog that shields their eyes.
My daughter learned about trans ideology from a friend, but she was able to find more info online. Please be careful! Kids’ internet access should be controlled, carefully monitored, gradual and appropriate to their maturity level. In the meantime, kids should be taught to question information they come across and informed against ideologies like transgenderism. Porn and deviant group chats are other hazards. Kids on the autism spectrum are at particular risk.
100% social contagion through internet, media, new education regulations w/ DEI & SEL. Turn off devices or limit access to apps & gaming sites. Watch their content and their peer groups. Keep the communication open with your kids from a young age so when they hit those hard days, they talk about it. Listen to what they have to say. If they don’t say anything as they used to, then that’s another opportunity to open a conversation. Keep at it. Stay strong. You are not alone.
I'm sorry. Praying he comes back to you. This is a nightmare for all of us.
I'm so sorry
That must be so damn hard to see him try his best shot at living a lie.
Not sure for your son but many guys have bought into the shaming of toxic masculinity crap and feel some "redemption" at escaping their male status by pretending to be a woman.
Some men are indeed toxic and so are women. But men and women's complementariness is a gift to the world.
I had to relearn that truth and reconcile with the beauty of those differences to find my peace
I pray your son will open his eyes and embrace the reality of his wholesomeness as a man and will eventually find his peace living as his authentic self, reconciled with his family and himself
Tough letter to write, and a tough letter to read. It breaks my heart for all of you parents who have lost a child to this evil-ideology. You are doing the right thing by not affirming him. The last thing he needs is for you to "pretend" along with him because as you said, he will never be your daughter. Ever.
Stay strong. Keep the home fires burning. We all understand how difficult this journey is for you and your family. Best wishes.
Keep the calm in madness take a lot of strength and courage. Good for you! One of the common argument of the people that are now ditransitioning or untransitioning, coming back to what they were before ( though is not possible completely, thing they understand) is that all the world around them including the parents supported them, it wasn’t any person in their lives who showed doubts of what they were doing, that would have been a deterrent for many of going ahead in castrated themselves or any extreme surgery. Obviously gender disphory is a mental condition and sometimes also is an act of rebellion against their families for none resolved issues in the familiar dynamic, so I always agree with parents who stay firm and aren’t part of the deception but in a loving assurance that they will be there to scoop the pieces of a fallen human being. We have right now so many gender regrets and their testimonies are helping to deter this agenda a little bit, we need to share those testimonies the most we can, also Dr Myriam Grassman is doing a lot to wake up people. We need opposed in all the areas this insanity. Thanks for share!
Non affirming parents suffer the most.
What horror, what a nightmare. I have not seen my son for I think 2 years, it may really be 3 or longer but my brain cannot hold on to the time passing, I am crushed with grief as we all are here. I don't expect ever to see him again. I dread to see or think what hormones are doing to him. I don't even know if he has had surgery. His cruelty, his madness is beyond comprehension.
Rachel I’ve been keeping an eye on estrangement and the longest I’ve seen is 13 years but after that contact does happen. And years fly. Time flies. Keep the faith. Keep praying.
I try, and I hope you are right.
So sorry 😔
I am sorry, OP, for what your family is going through. Your realization is a sound and insightful one. I wonder how many of our children have a motivation that's related to one of the parents - whether it's they want to be more like a parent they admire or less like a parent they might butt heads with. Reading your post made me think my daughter might do anything to not be like me (we have always butt heads). When she goes on T, she's going to look like a small, delicate replica of her father. God help us all through this insanity.
My son would probably rather die than resemble his father. That is very true.
My son, too. It's beyond insulting to my husband who was so kind, so loving toward my son, who with his autistic traits required more parerenting effort. While I understand there is pervasive awful enabling going on, my son is dismissive of his actual loving parents, ungrateful and so disrepectful -- but that's what cults encourage.
Beautifully honest. Thank you. Does mum feel the same way?
I’m so sorry. It’s just crushing to love them so much, and then see them hurting themselves so badly. It breaks my heart. I just pray they all come to their senses and come home.
I'm sorry to the dad who wrote this. All of us parents in this understand. I hope that someday, this will all be over for us and we can start to heal our families, if that is possible.
It has been a year since I have seen my son. We sent him money for his birthday and told him we loved him. Either he forgot or intentionally did not reach out on our birthdays or for Mother’s and Father’s Day. I guess this is the new norm. My husband and I will be visiting a daughter who lives within an hour of our son the end of this month. I have told my husband that he is free to go and try and visit our son but I cannot bear to do it. I do not think I have the stomach to see what the estrogen has done to him after a year. Also, he tries to speak with what he perceives as a woman’s high voice and it puts me in a rage. After seeing what our daughter has done to herself with testosterone, I am too traumatized to see anything more. My heart breaks for you, my friend.
I'm so sorry the cult has captured two of your children. When people think this is just who they are, how many families have two gay children? It's quite rare, but the number of families with two trans siblings is increasing. I'm not sure what I would characterize not reaching out for holidays or even anytime - but a new norm doesn't seem quite right. My son indoctrinated is 3 years estranged and my older ally son is going on 10 months.
Yep. I know of a family where the younger child transitioned, evidently with the parents’ full support, and a few years later, the older sibling did so as well. I’m guessing older sibling was jealous of attention paid to younger sibling. WTF. 🤷♀️
I know several families that have siblings that are trans. It could just be the siblings succumbed to the indoctrination influenced by their sibling and social media rather than jealousy. It's possible because this is a cult that is like no other.
It's a full blown social contagion! Pure evil.
I’m so sorry that the cult has trapped two of your children. I have lost one and I don’t think my sanity would survive if I lost two. This is a double assault on you and your husband.
Thank you, Natalia. How could any of us know what devastation was coming our way? I still can’t believe it sometimes. I am doing much better now than I was a year ago. I still have this pain in my heart so I am going to go have it checked out to see if it’s heart ache or heart disease.
Please take care of yourself. Thinking of you 💕
Fortunately I had no severe physical illness but I have been so depressed that I struggle getting out of bed sometimes. My ex had a stroke and a bleed in the brain. Nobody who causes this can possibly be on the right side of history. Please take care of yourself. My best wishes for a speedy recovery
I'm so sorry. My beautiful daughter now sounds like and looks like her father, who she doesn't even like or talk to anymore. It all hurts so much for so many parents.
Keep telling the truth... Prodigal sons and daughters oft' change their minds.
So heartbreaking…
You said it all; makes me cry because I feel the same way for my daughter who wants to change herself physically and I am utterly devastated. God help us all.
Thank you for sharing.
Your letter, written out of love of a relationship, will benefit many parent/child relationships in the long run. I pray for the day you son becomes open to those sentiments.
It’s crazy the fervor with which they exude in their efforts to erase their past in order to convince themselves and their cult peers they “belong”. If they were addicted to drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc… people would understand our desperation and heartache and loss offering help to lead them out of this lifestyle. WHERE IS OUR HELP? The government now funds it and private industry feeds it! Communities hide away our children from us as “we are the enemy”. Where is the humanity in turning fetishes and fantasy into reality? That’s not true love. That’s not true compassion. That’s pure evil.
Very well said!
Is this why they do it? That was my theory too. I told my daughter that she probably wanted to be a man because she loved her father and brother very much. She still run away from home and stopped talking to us, which caused her father to have a stroke. She has ignored her father’s stroke, and doesn’t seem to give a damn about him, or her brother or me. Yesterday was a sad Father’s Day
This sounds like my family. My son’s dad had a serious accident in May and then it lead to a blood clot to brain and my son could care less. Doesn’t reach out to ask my oldest son how he’s doing. I have gone quiet on him since June has started because I’m sad that my dad died last July and he missed the funeral and his dad is hurt and not one care in the world. This cult has really messed up my son and family. I’m just broken and pray everyday for us parents to have it stop. Hugs
I’m so sorry for the loss of your father 🙏
❤️
😔
I'm sorry, I understand the estrangement, my son's are estranged. I don't understand how they can be so cruel, except by framing this as they are captured by a cult. It's absolutely mind-bending what this ideology has done. It's a cult that our kids have been indoctrinated into for various reasons. I'd love to know how many are smart, sensitive, kids vs smart extroverted kids who got captured.
The glitter family dishes out a lot of lovebombing. Presumably after this phase there will come an enforcement phase where the cult will use blasphemy accusations against our children and finally they will get fed up with it and leave?
I don't know. The Germany study gives me some "hope" that our kids will come out. For boys - 7-10 years on average. I wonder why some longer than others? What is the magic sauce?
It probably takes about that long for the detrimental health effects from the wrong-sex hormones to start piling up and become undeniable and intolerable. Before that time, perhaps many trans people would still be trying to "make it work" because they have so much invested in it.
And it may take that long for some to admit that switching genders did not solve their life problems.
They have to 1) admit to themselves it didn't solve their problems. 2) Understand the sunk cost fallacy and let go of the years they put into the alter-ego and all the validation it got them.
I read once an article on some awful Colombian revolutionary cult, I can’t remember but someone had left after ten years and had written about it. Yes, ten years seems right.
So many “why” questions that may go unanswered. I’m sorry for your pain, Natalia. It must be so hard to have your daughter ignore your husband’s stroke while simultaneously trying to morph into being just like him - - the man she once loved so much. I’m a supporter of PITT parents and don’t think I would have survived the pain you folks are enduring because of this pernicious trans craze among youth. I just weep and pray for you all.
Please carry on praying for us. It is really important and appreciated. God really listens to the righteous. God actually loves the righteous to pray to Him.
Thank you
How heartbreaking what this cult has done to our once compassionate and caring children. They have a newfound hatred for anything that could possibly bring them sane consideration for what they are doing. It’s as if they have been overtaken body and mind. These zombies are NOT our children. I will fight with everything to find a “cure” to this mind virus and remove the pharmaceutical fog that shields their eyes.
Yes, they are acting in extreme ways and I’m not sure we are yet able to understand why.
? Internet access overload?
At least I wonder about this with my own child
My daughter learned about trans ideology from a friend, but she was able to find more info online. Please be careful! Kids’ internet access should be controlled, carefully monitored, gradual and appropriate to their maturity level. In the meantime, kids should be taught to question information they come across and informed against ideologies like transgenderism. Porn and deviant group chats are other hazards. Kids on the autism spectrum are at particular risk.
It isn’t just the internet though. It’s also the college or university campus which is full of extremists of all sorts.
Yes, it's the internet along with seeing "trans" people in their sphere.
100% social contagion through internet, media, new education regulations w/ DEI & SEL. Turn off devices or limit access to apps & gaming sites. Watch their content and their peer groups. Keep the communication open with your kids from a young age so when they hit those hard days, they talk about it. Listen to what they have to say. If they don’t say anything as they used to, then that’s another opportunity to open a conversation. Keep at it. Stay strong. You are not alone.
i I’m so sorry to like this comment. I’m so sorry for what you’re going through.wr
It’s a lot of us. The cult has operated right under our noses.