I'm aware of the risks your raise and the at-risk status of grandparents. I trust the grandmother I'm speaking to, to use her judgment based on the realities of the relationships and individuals she's dealing with. As to "triangulating between marital partners", really?! Are you serious? The message seemed to say that this grandmother ha…
I'm aware of the risks your raise and the at-risk status of grandparents. I trust the grandmother I'm speaking to, to use her judgment based on the realities of the relationships and individuals she's dealing with. As to "triangulating between marital partners", really?! Are you serious? The message seemed to say that this grandmother had yet not spoken with her daughter about something important. If that's the case, deciding that an instant belligerent response from the SIL declaring these topics off-limits should mean no communication about them with the daughter is problematic, to say the least. The grandmother will need to figure out what's possible, which is why I use words like "perhaps" and I ask things as questions.
As to the book I mentioned it is not a "values" book; it is a book that explains the different body parts people have. When I say "perhaps" it would be possible to have this in her home down the road for grandchildren, I mean again, that the grandmother I'm addressing can assess the circumstances. It is entirely possible, that like so many parents, her SIL would actually have no idea that some of the people he's aligning with, would find helping children know body parts to be a problem. Quite regularly people who consider themselves "trans allies" think I'm lying when I say that reproductive anatomy lessons in schools specifically fail to tell children who-has-what anatomy. To them it is obvious that children need to be given that information, just as they are given information about other parts of the body.
So again, good luck to the woman I'm responding to here, in navigating the path ahead of you. I hope these thoughts are helpful as you figure out things that you, and you alone, will be able to assess. And I feel for you as to the tricky place you're in: wanting to protect your grandchildren, and wanting to not have them kept away from you.
Addendum: letting grandchildren know that they're not limited by sexist stereotypes in terms of what clothes they get to wear or activities they get to do....should be no problem with the SIL and daughter. In any case, it would be bizarre for a grandmother to tell her grandson that he can't have the pink parasol because its for girls, or to tell a granddaughter to let her brother carry the toolbox because tools are for boys.
And correction to my comment above: I used the term "may be able" as opposed to "perhaps" which indicates the same mindset. The grandmother will need to assess what makes sense.
I don't share your assessment of this woman and her judgment. Nor do I share your assessment of what is needed and what is "needless" regarding Gender Identity issues. My guess is that you are not up to speed on just how egregious the harm being done to children is. That would explain you having so little sympathy regarding the difficult situation grandparents are in....the Sophie's choice presented to us as the result of the Gender Cult being so malicious and so powerful.
I'm aware of the risks your raise and the at-risk status of grandparents. I trust the grandmother I'm speaking to, to use her judgment based on the realities of the relationships and individuals she's dealing with. As to "triangulating between marital partners", really?! Are you serious? The message seemed to say that this grandmother had yet not spoken with her daughter about something important. If that's the case, deciding that an instant belligerent response from the SIL declaring these topics off-limits should mean no communication about them with the daughter is problematic, to say the least. The grandmother will need to figure out what's possible, which is why I use words like "perhaps" and I ask things as questions.
As to the book I mentioned it is not a "values" book; it is a book that explains the different body parts people have. When I say "perhaps" it would be possible to have this in her home down the road for grandchildren, I mean again, that the grandmother I'm addressing can assess the circumstances. It is entirely possible, that like so many parents, her SIL would actually have no idea that some of the people he's aligning with, would find helping children know body parts to be a problem. Quite regularly people who consider themselves "trans allies" think I'm lying when I say that reproductive anatomy lessons in schools specifically fail to tell children who-has-what anatomy. To them it is obvious that children need to be given that information, just as they are given information about other parts of the body.
So again, good luck to the woman I'm responding to here, in navigating the path ahead of you. I hope these thoughts are helpful as you figure out things that you, and you alone, will be able to assess. And I feel for you as to the tricky place you're in: wanting to protect your grandchildren, and wanting to not have them kept away from you.
Addendum: letting grandchildren know that they're not limited by sexist stereotypes in terms of what clothes they get to wear or activities they get to do....should be no problem with the SIL and daughter. In any case, it would be bizarre for a grandmother to tell her grandson that he can't have the pink parasol because its for girls, or to tell a granddaughter to let her brother carry the toolbox because tools are for boys.
And correction to my comment above: I used the term "may be able" as opposed to "perhaps" which indicates the same mindset. The grandmother will need to assess what makes sense.
I don't share your assessment of this woman and her judgment. Nor do I share your assessment of what is needed and what is "needless" regarding Gender Identity issues. My guess is that you are not up to speed on just how egregious the harm being done to children is. That would explain you having so little sympathy regarding the difficult situation grandparents are in....the Sophie's choice presented to us as the result of the Gender Cult being so malicious and so powerful.