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Talleyrand's avatar

I can feel the outrage and it is real and hard and important. This will carry you.

The section where you ask where this other person was.... I just wrote to the head of the "shelter" here exactly that.... It stretched over 4 pages, that stupid man had 0 arguments to explain how and why he harvests the kids that come to the shelter like cornstalks and sends them via an ignorant and corrupt psychologist to the operating table. This paid for by the city, no less.

This nightmare must end.

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LovingMother's avatar

I wonder whether there could be some Class Action Lawsuits against places like these shelters, Planned Parenthood, Child "Protection" Services, schools that encourage and hide name & pronoun changes, etc.

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It will take some organizing that is for sure. Where I live, there are no class action suits. And for the moment it's touch and go with my daughter, so I don't want to rock the boat too much, I have a good communication with her. But yes, it will take some legal work and some counter-lobbying especially. A problem is that the average person in the street has no idea of what is going on. I spoke to two people today, left them with their mouths open...

As for the "shelter." Well... they obviously think I have cloven hoofs. They pretend to seek dialogue, but I have been given "Hausverbot...."

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LovingMother's avatar

Yes. Agree. And, it is so frustrating how clueless the average person in the street is - how they just don't get it.

There are so many mid twenties detrans people - I'd love it if they had some good lawyers to go after an obvious one for them - Planned Parenthood. It could start something that cascades?

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That is one of the big problems. I wrote the local "shelter" three letters, a total of 8000 words or so... and I always write (LGB) T (Q) ... because it is the cuckoo's egg in the nest. I need my daughter on my side, though, because there are some stories of parents who have their kids taken away from them because of "abuse," which is what the groomer* at the shelter accused my wife of in January (my wife is a wonderful mother, we have a very simple rule: If you are in trouble/feeling down about something.... just express it, because it's the easiest way to take care of things. ) I haven't verified the stories, but I will soon.

*I did not pick this term up from the web. After my 90-minute talk with this fellow I used this term when telling my wife about the convo. I backed it up with evidence, such as the affirmative care model, the fact that they use some home-baked "suicide test" based on a real one, but suggestive. There is NO screening for underlying issues, ASD, Anorexia, dysmorphia (which I feel is the link between the autistic person's discomfort with change and GD). I am looking into this at the present time and hoping that my daughter is coming to her senses. Like many who've fallen for cults, she is highly intelligent and very articulate. These are not stupid people.

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BL's avatar

Can you say what state you are in? Know of a clinic that was state sponsored where the social workers definitely aided and abetted the transition of vulnerable youth. Any chance you are in OR?

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My daughter is also highly intelligent and articulate. Yes - many intelligent people have fallen for cults. It's almost like they are good targets because they think they are too bright to be fooled. Also, she is so articulate and intelligent that people thought the nonsense she learned to spew must be true even though it makes no sense and she re-invented the past. So crazy and frustrating. I think she is getting more focused on real things and not turning inward so much but I don't think she has rejected the ideology.

"A person who believes he is too smart to be brainwashed makes for a much better victim than one who is aware she is not, and lives with an appropriately circumspect attitude."

https://stephaniewinn.substack.com/p/i-am-fascinated-by-detransitioners?s=r

See also https://www.womenarehuman.com/how-to-free-your-child-from-the-gender-identity-cult-interview-with-maria-keffler/

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