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I know this is not the NYT but they don't do real reporting on this issue:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/03/are_leftists_liberating_children_or_preying_on_them_in_public_school_classrooms.html.

The bill is about Kindergarten through third grade instruction:

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

FL Democrats have been calling it an "anti-gay" bill. The spokesperson for Florida governor Ron DeSantis responded:

"Christina Pushaw 🇺🇸@ChristinaPushawIf you’re against the Anti-Grooming Bill, you are probably a groomer or at least you don’t denounce the grooming of 4-8 year old children. Silence is complicity. This is how it works, Democrats, and I didn’t make the rules.3:33 PM · Mar 4, 2022"

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Dear Lara, speaking for myself and my lesbian wife of 22 years. Yes, we were and are in some ways "gender nonconforming." However, now, we are as comfortable in our own bodies as any middle age woman. We never identified as boys or men. I do think if I was a young lesbian today I would be very confused. I'm glad I'm not a young gay person today, which is saying something because coming out in the 90s was not easy.

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Hey, here's some real reporting: "Trans Activists Funded By Big Pharma Push Biased Research Promoting Medical Transitions For Children"

https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/06/transgender-activism-pharmaceutical-studies-children/

Arbor, Pfizer, Dr. Turban, AACAP, and the Trevor Project are all discussed!

Now, we need some larger outlets.

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The daily caller is a right wing newspaper. For the most part they will be preaching to the choir.

It's too easy for people to dismiss their writings as "transphobia" regardless of how well researched or cited, if you hope to use those writings to convince people who feel otherwise.

What we need is for more centrist or left leaning sources to finally begin to address this issue, and both NYT and WaPo recently have not only done so but allowed commenting and allowed comments pointing out the peer contagion and mental health issues to remain posted. These papers have resisted for far too long ... but maybe we will see the tide beginning to turn now. The downside to this, though, is these articles are hidden behind pay walls. The media may refuse to cover these topics due to fear but if comments are any indication, this is the issue that is going to draw a lot of life long democratic voters to sit home or vote republican. It's past time this topic stops being viewed as partisan and off limits for serious discussion, and unfortunately I think only the left wing media has the power to make that happen.

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Please see the American Thinker post I just made about the anti-grooming bill in FL. It's not the NYT but... groomers should not be allowed to get away with calling this an "anti-gay" bill. Silence is complicity.

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I think you are right. Although, on the right I think most people have regarded the pronouns, etc. as a very silly fringe issue - laugh about funny things like "Zir". - and think the country should stay focused on "real issues". To the extent that they know a little more about what is happening to kids my impression is that they think its all Munchausen syndrome on the part of the mother. So, I am glad for any growing awareness,

It is sad that the two tribes dismiss each other - won't listen to an argument because of where it is coming from. This demonizing of leftish and rightish, Dem and Rep didn't seem to be a thing when I was a kid. People would have friends in different parties and move on to other subjects after discussing some political view.

I was once a devoted NYT reader before I thought it jumped the shark. I doubt it will every come back but your post is encouraging. I think the younger generation doesn't read print news at all? I am glad if some readers are waking up and that they are no longer censored. It is probably fear of backlash.

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Mar 8, 2022·edited Mar 8, 2022

"Ask them if homosexual adolescents might be prone to mistake their same sex attraction for an opposite sex identity?"

this is HOMOPHOBIA.. Homosexuals are sexual inverts. Expressing themselves under gender constructs for the opposite sex comes naturally as a result of their sexuality. All gender performance is caused by sexuality in nature. In every non-western country the majority of homosexual males take on a feminine identity which would classify them as trans women here. only in the extremely HOMOPHOBIC western society are gay man forced to 'man up' and be masculine as opposed to feminine.

BTW most gay men and women identify themselves with the opposite sex BEFORE they realize they are same sex attracted.. Desistance of cross-gender identity ONLY exists in the west due to systematic homophobia!!

The other points are valid, sure when it comes to non-homosexual transsexuals. But stop attacking HSTS

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What's homophobic is telling young people that there is only one correct way to be a boy/man and if you don't fit into that box, you must medically change your appearance as you aren't valid as your natal sex. The vast majority of people opposed to medicalizing young people with blockers and hormones — a wholly experimental protocol that is known to cause permanent negative health impacts and has not been shown to effectively relieve dysphoria — aren't at all focused on how someone presents themselves or who they love. Contrast this to those that feel that it's so shameful to be same-sex attracted that it's much better to alter your appearance (at high physical cost) to at least look like the opposite sex. Please look at the data around desistence and detransition. People desist because transitioning does not help them. What helps them is being true to themselves and accepting that it's actually perfectly fine for them to be who they are without medical intervention that permanently harms them. True self-love, but that comes with maturity. Sooner or later this will become apparent and this scandal will end. The question is how many young people will have allowed themselves to be sold this rotten bill of goods before then.

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Desistence is not due to homophobia, it is due to homophilia. Most desisters in all studies done to date including D Singh et al 13 year study indicate they will just go back to living comfortably as males liking other males. That is not homophobia , it is childhood so called non conforming stereotypes giving way to adulthood convenience ( not having to live a heavily made up cross sex adult stereotype) to attract other males as that is what motivates desistence. Finding other homosexual partners.

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This assumes most homosexual males in the west are closeted cross dressers and are in a depressed state wearing any clothing to cover their bodies or wearing their hair or having no hair or whatever.

This is a very homophobic statement as it characterizes the the vast majority of gay males as being closeted and dysphoric based on their clothing preferences that they grew up with and feel comfortable in or growing naturally occurring facial hair or cutting their hair short. Physical appearance in society is to not confuse the society as to which sex you are ( not your sexuality as that is not determined by your clothing or appearance but what you do in privacy) and to follow some rules to keep sanity. It is meaningful only for that and is similar to other societal norms we follow for common good. We have many identities and we should not have to take extraordinary measures to express one of those..

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I agree, and it is so sad when "abuse" gets redefined as not agreeing with someone about a delusion. GI is all about stereotypes. Wishing everyone peace

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"Start asking gender specialists how they know this isn’t just normal peer influenced identity exploration? Ask them if homosexual adolescents might be prone to mistake their same sex attraction for an opposite sex identity?"

No one here has a problem with a boy or man wanting to wear a dress and speak in his highest range - or whatever - or even have his pals call him some another name. Everybody ought to express his or herself as he or she pleases. No need to "man up"! I am not a woman according to whether I wear lipstick or don't wear lipstick. The point is that "gender specialists" should not immediately start drugging these or any other people and affirming that they really are the opposite sex somehow - and then forward them on to surgeons. Teachers should not affirm either. Many lesbian teen girls these days are taking "T" or getting double mastectomies before they realize they are girls attracted to other girls and suffered from internalized homophobia. Of course, they are just one of the many categories of young people - mostly girls - falling into the "gender" trap now.

And, the activists do seem to be non-homosexual transsexual males - like Valens.

So, we probably agree.

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Mar 8, 2022·edited Mar 8, 2022

Actually "Brain" who appears to have written many of these risible articles does have a problem with his child (me) wearing dresses and relentlessly abuses me for it

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Thank you for your compliments, I wish I could write as well risible or not they do show critical thinking applied to Trans is a good thing to save lives from getting wrecked. I am sure whoever advises you on such matters does so because they love you a lot as they care about you deeply. From your comments it is clear you believe a lot of things that are simply not true. Male presenting homosexual males are not closeted cross dressers, they are not forced by society to wear non confusing clothing. Clothing is just to cover ones body not to express sexuality. Sexuality is something to express by an adult in their bedrooms and not to wear it in public especially since it does not lead to better outcomes in romance, relationships and many other areas of real life. As maturity comes this realization leads to desistence as it is a lot easier to be self contented without worrying about stereotypical appearances. Be chill about self and not brood over what one can never become.

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Just when you thought you'd seen everything. Great investigation by this parent. I hope someone investigates each person that is associated with this group. Tho something tells me that will be difficult since most people take on new names/identities to obscure the truth.

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Mar 7, 2022·edited Mar 7, 2022

This is akin to the media manipulation that is used by Putin. Complete lies and control of narrative.

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Journalists who write critically on the topic get cancelled, threatened, harassed and lied about constantly. Abigail Shrier, Meghan Murphy, Jesse Singal, Katie Herzog, come to mind. Look what has happened to the world’s most successful author, J.K. Rowling, for simply pointing out that biological sex is real. My point is, any journalist who takes on this topic will have to be prepared to work independently, outside the mainstream press, and tolerate a merciless level of abuse, including rape and death threats. It requires a high degree of commitment and nerves of steel.

It’s not impossible, but if one wants a career in journalism, it’s tricky, to say the least.

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It's unfortunate how much censorship there is on this issue in favor of "progressivity." These days, truth is opposite of progress, when they should be one and the same. It's like constant Opposite Day.

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I did not know a: “Trans Journalists Association Style Guide” existed, with such explicit written directives. Have you tried publication, like in NYPost?

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what do you mean "have you tried publication in NY Post?" I would not want to publicize this group any more unless it is to out their nefarious activities!

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and by "this group" I mean the group that this article references.

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Apologies, that’s exactly what I meant, to see an article like this one published to help uncover the TJA’s nefarious activities. It meant to be a compliment. I liked how the article exposed the way this group was overtly trying to control the trans narrative even at the expense of other at risk groups—they feel so above everything they dare write such directives down. I also liked how the article frames these directives within the language of nazi propaganda and how informative it is. I was thinking in the potential value of exposing what these groups are really doing to the general public. Never to promote their name but to help unmask them. But I understand that maybe it is a naive thought.

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Oh, I really think the public needs to have eyes opened on this subject. I would love to see this "Free The Press" article reprinted as widely as possible. I don't think there are many places that would touch it though.

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Good idea! It certainly is what all the media parrots. I love the idea of getting a place like the NY Post to publish this.

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The Trans Journalists Association Style Guide was partially created by Ana Valens who wishes there were cis women breeding rape camps. His name is listed as a contributor on the style guide official page. You can read more about him here. https://www.womenarehuman.com/transgender-journalist-fantasizes-about-trans-girls-violently-raping-women/

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What is his real name?

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Philip Wythe.

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Thanks! Well done!

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Thank you!

Dr. Littman's paper on detransitioners also asked about influences that encouraged them to believe transition would help them. "Participants identified sources that encouraged them to believe transitioning would help them. Social media and online communities were the most frequently reported, including YouTube transition videos (48.0%), blogs (46.0%), Tumblr (45.0%), and online communities (43.0%) (see supplemental materials). Also common were people who the respondents knew offline such as therapists (37.0%); someone (28.0%) or a group of friends (27.0%) that they knew in-person."

That is, the detransitioners themselves are identifying these social pressures. And many are noting they were inadequately informed.

Why are their voices less important than those who liked their outcomes long term?

Especially since no one can tell you how many there are of either?

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WTH. You have jumped to a really weird conclusion. That said, I can see that I could have worded my post more specifically. In the sentence "I hope someone investigates each person that is associated with this group," I was not referencing PITT but the people listed on the website that this article is referencing. And I was being completely sincere when I said this was a great investigative piece.

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right? just watch the film The Social Dilemma!

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