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Expensevo's avatar

Ugh. Reading those sex ed standards was painful. Can we demand equal representation of side effects and risks of puberty suppression and cross sex hormones. And also equal representation of detransitioners/desisters as trans individuals?

In sweden this is what reversed their curve referrals to gender clinics is on the decline. Equal media portrayals. Equal representation of successes and failure. I am sick and tired of this notion that puberty blockers are benign and reversible. And that cross sex hormones are fine and easy.

Im so over it all. Im over abortion rights rallies becoming transrights rallies. Why is it wrong to be a woman? How do I navigate this dance between wanting my youngest daughter to be proud to be a woman, discuss the injustices with her. While tiptoeing around my eldest who is still “a boy”.

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JC_Collins's avatar

lol, they always have to have some sort of ridiculous name, don't they? TIFs have variations of Aidan, while TIMs have something that refers to male genitalia like "Phalen" or "Hurcum" or "Phallusia McGirldique" (ok, I made that last one up)...

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Brandon J's avatar

There's a wall ready for these people to be lined up against.

Take your kids out of government schools.

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Katie1178's avatar

That was absolutely despicable. Using your son as activism fodder and posting for “likes”.

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Recynd's avatar

I can’t “like” this.

The mother is shamelessly grooming her son. I just can’t...

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

I have no words. It’s so wrong on every level. These kids are going to mutilate their bodies and don’t even need a parent’s permission at the age of 16+! My daughter is 15 and “trans”. She plans on having her breasts removed when she’s 16!!?? I’m sick. This generation is headed for mental breakdown disaster. Mark my words. I can only pray...

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Dan R's avatar

I think I need a drink after reading that one.

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atomic sagebrush's avatar

It occurs to me that corporate interests created a world in which everyone was told we had to chase an unattainable ideal, for the purposes of selling us creams and pills and surgeries required to pursue that ideal. The more we bought, the more products we were told we just HAD to buy till we were being peddled insane things like butt crack whitening creams, Vajazzling, people injecting their lips and other parts of their anatomy to bizarre proportions, etc. At the same time, the media/Hollywood + social media created a world in which people were obsessively rewarded with adulation for their appearance - far more so than a highly successful person of mediocre beauty. The rest of us are all but openly told we are wastes of space if we aren't gorgeous.

What if you're a person who never COULD attain that ideal, as the gender you were born with? You've come into a world in which people are rewarded for their physical form alone, and you can never Wouldn't it make sense, even if only on a subconscious level, in that scenario to "jump ship" to reach the physical form of the opposite gender, to receive that adulation? It sure seems to be at least part of this puzzle.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

Well said! You read my mind! It’s a battle for our youth who are being allowed to make permanent decisions at an age that they can’t even keep a checkbook balanced! Or their minds!! Are you kidding me!! The only words I have left are prayers…

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Northwest Mom's avatar

The National Sex Education Standards document is beyond horrifying -pure indoctrination that will no doubt continue the pipelining of vulnerable kids to medicalization. Naturally the word Detransitioner is not included in the glossary of terms.

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Bre's avatar

This makes me so sad and worried for all the vulnerable young girls and boys. I am learning more and more how my poor vulnerable daughter was conditioned/brainwashed into thinking she is one of them—“born in the wrong body”. It’s sickening and horrifyingly what is being done to these young people. I am angry at all the people and companies making money this way. I am so angry that we don’t have laws to protect kids against this.

Parents, they are after ALL our kids, Please keep them off of internet as much as possible and keep them out of government schools. You Tube is not a safe place for kids, neither is most social media. Don’t think it can’t happen in your family—I never thought this would happen in my family.

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Northwest Mom's avatar

You are right. You tube is not safe. And yet it is freely allowed on my daughter's school computer - no rights of parents to block the trans-influencers. My daughter's favorite trans influencer accessed on her school computer was Jammidodger. She was 12 when she started following his account on her school computer. She now sees that changing her name and pronouns at school was a mistake - we've taught her everything we learned here at PITT/Genspect/Sasha- but she is riding out the school year as a boy until she can be herself again -a girl -in a new school in a new state. Thank god we had resources and information like that here at PITT to bring sanity to our family.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

Amen! You are one of the lucky ones. I won’t give up on my daughter either. I need to keep hearing these success stories!

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Brandon J's avatar

I don't think gay people are crazy, but I always believed normalizing gay marriage was a slippery slope. The outlier has now become the norm.

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HG's avatar

Thank you for sharing this.

I read this site so I don’t feel alone after this cult stole my daughter 3 years ago.

But I have to admit that these type of films pull the scab off my wound every time.

To think that I lost my child partly to you tube makes me so angry and distraught. I can’t shake off this crippling pain.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

I feel you. It’s PTSD. It truly is. Tragic.

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Grandma Eileen's avatar

This made me so upset. I am beyond shocked! I am so sad for parents and horrified for the mind poisoning that is happening to our innocent children. The trans movement is a lie and is causing a generation to be sterile - it is no longer about Female or Male but about becoming an “IT” a non-sexual person. I am so angry that the schools are supporting this and lying to parents. How did our society switch its focus on sexuality and gender instead of the well being of our youth? I am waking up In the night to pray and crying out to God to right this wrong!

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Mrs Miller's avatar

Thank you for this article. I’m a stone’s throw from Jersey with a teenager in public high school who has hurtled down the trans pipeline from pansexual to lesbian to now transmasc gay boy and thinks she can take “just hormones and stuff” to deepen her voice. She wears her binder to school a few days a week and experiences gender euphoria when the bus driver calls her dude. As a parent I feel beyond hopeless against a foe that’s infiltrated her school, her friends, their parents, media, social media, the government and medicine. With 29.4K detransitioners and counting you’d think maybe there’d be room for a number of perspectives on the matter but unfortunately we’re not there yet. Eventually it will come crashing down. I pray it doesn’t take my daughter with it.

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Jessica's avatar

Get her out of public school.

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Mrs Miller's avatar

You want to pay for private? Or help me home school?

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Jessica's avatar

Don't do private. That is just as bad. You can homeschool. There are tons and tons and tons of resources online to do it. Discoveryk12 is free. Khan Academy is free. You can piece other things together. You can use a whole curriculum. There is so much out there. We're talking about your child's mind. She is worth it.

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LovingMother's avatar

I agree that private is just as bad. They can have more money to throw at the Gender Identity cause. Mine was in a private high school...

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Jessica's avatar

Yes, they do the same things as public schools. Even Catholic schools! In private, if you speak out about it, they'll kick your kid out and not return your money. You sign a waiver when you sign them up. So it's just as bad, if not worse.

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LovingMother's avatar

When we complained to the private high school 4-5 years ago they responded by changing the language in the school policy online. It is shocking that so many Catholic schools have gone for this. I think we have more power to change the government schools since they are taxpayer funded. And, private schools will just mirror what is happening at elite private universities where GI started. - LM

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Mrs Miller's avatar

Haha No was just teasing before. But I appreciate your care and concern. All

Best. ❤️

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LovingMother's avatar

Maybe you could take her out of high school for a year and send her to work on a farm or something? Or, go far away somewhere this summer to get her a break from it? Just brainstorming.

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Mrs Miller's avatar

Her therapist (a very good one I found through GETA) did that with her own daughter. Left the country. It worked. She does not believe that needs to be the case with my daughter. Thank you.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

Amen. I’m losing my daughter too. Heart wrenching. All we can do is pray…💔🙏💔

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George Sand's avatar

"...experiences gender euphoria when the bus driver calls her dude"

I call everyone "dude" -- which was a "gender neutral" (as the phrase goes) term where (California) and when (80s/90s) I grew up. This stunning-and-brave new world is unrecognizable... You have my sympathies for your daughter. This madness cannot end soon enough!

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SadMom's avatar

This is improperly treated mental illness. A travesty on all of our children who could live such better lives if they weren't captured and seduced by the cult and encouraged by society.

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Randy Garbin's avatar

This is a holocaust.

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Mark Christenson's avatar

Thanks for sharing this and for the very objective way you provided the information. I think you are correct that many young trans people are seduced by the attention as well as the business aspect, and they are young enough to not have enough perspective to care about the harm they are doing to themselves and the harm they are encouraging others to participate in.

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LovingMother's avatar

I wanted to like your post, Mark, but I object to calling these kids "young trans people" as if they really do have an inner gendered soul or something. I feel that any such language supports the now so prevalent and unquestioned belief system we are trying to fight. Maybe "confused young people" or trans "identified young people" please? I totally agree that they are too young to have any perspective. Have you seen this Steve Levine paper?

"Reconsidering Informed Consent for Trans-Identified Children, Adolescents, and Young Adults Stephen B. Levine,E. Abbruzzese &Julia W. Mason Published online: 17 Mar 2022"

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2046221

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Fearful Symmetry's avatar

A substantial percentage of the youth who identify as transgender do so because they are homosexual and see no happy future for themselves as lesbian women or gay men. Your rabid homophobia aligns you with the conservative parents of gender non-conforming children who opt to "spay the gay away" by transitioning them (Kai Shappley is one high-profile victim of this) and the trans-rights activists who harass lesbians who aren't willing to date trans-identified men.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

A teeny tiny small percentage. I am speaking to the adolescents that have deep seated trauma to deal with instead of gender. I recommend every one of our kids to wait until they are 25 to make a permanent decision. We all have issues in our heads that need nurturing and healing. I know because I’m one of them. Trust me, I’ve done my homework. And I know my own child. I respectfully agree to disagree with you. I hope we all find our happy endings. Because we all deserve to be happy.

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Let me be clear that I strongly oppose underage transition. What I object to in Marek's comment is the phrase "gay pervert" (that, and the frankly unhinged rambling about soy).

I agree with you that same-sex attracted teenagers probably make up a minority of trans-identified teenagers. However, I don't think they're a "teeny tiny small" minority. You're probably familiar with Tavistock, the central NHS gender clinic for minors in the UK. In 2019, several doctors left Tavistock due to a crisis of conscience and went public with their concerns; one of those concerns was that they were transitioning many homosexual teens—especially lesbians—who were bullied by their peers or whose families would rather have a straight son than a gay daughter. Apparently there was a dark joke among the staff that eventually there wouldn't be any gay people left at all.

(Of course, I can’t say anything about your daughter one way or the other, but . . . is she involved in fandom? My intuition is that this is probably the single biggest risk factor for trans-identification among teenage girls.)

You are, of course, at liberty to consider gay people "perverts"—I have no wish to abridge your freedom of thought or speech—but as I am a lesbian, there is no way for the disagreement to be a respectful one.

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Beeswax's avatar

Thank you Fearful Symmetry. I'm a lesbian too, who's been aware of, and resisting, the ideological sinkhole of transism for close to 50 years. Marek's comment about Ellen DeGeneres is part of his special sauce...we don't take him very seriously around here, although sadly he probably speaks for too many people who don't understand the difference between gay and trans.

Suffice it to say that homosexuality is not a perversion, it is a normal but rare variation that affects a small but persistent percentage of the human population, always has and always will. And for the record, transism has been devastating to the gay and lesbian community, as narcissistic transactivist fetishists attempt to remake the human race in their truly perverted image. The bodies and brains of young girls and boys who would otherwise grow up to be gay if simply left alone, are being maimed and mutilated. Then the detransition experience, although better than nothing, often leaves them with irreversible damage.

Homophobia is alive and well in transworld, as well as the "real world," but lesbians like you and I understand the difference between gay and trans as well as the insanity and utter evil of turning innocent children into clients of a billion dollar body-maiming industry. I support every possible measure to shut down the "education" and transitioning of children.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

Oh my! “gay pervert” did not come from my lips. I would never bash anyones gender. My only dog in this fight is for our kids to just please wait until you’re of an adult mind before making a permanent decision. Whoever made that comment was not only wrong but very offensive.

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Katie1178's avatar

The one who gay bashes here is Marek. He shows up often to enlighten us all of the perversion of being gay.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

Yes! Yes! Yes! It’s tragic. I have no words left. No morals. Just tragic.

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Michele a/k/a Nana's avatar

Thank you!! I’m behind you 100% I can send you a detailed version if you’d like. May take more than one chapter though! So many layers I could fill an onion bin! Tragic.

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