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MLisa's avatar

Again, these are all great strategies that work on the younger teens. Once they get to college and get caught up in the "everyone is oppressed", colonialism/colonization caused the gender binary, and other cultures have 3rd spirit persons, it is so much harder to break them free. By the time they get to college, it's not so much about "trans" anymore....it converts to queer theory.

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Deb DiPietro's avatar

Sad but true. They are now joining the cult of queer and getting more attention for being as perverse as possible especially in public spaces. They seem to find their tribe and encourage each other once they leave home. 🫤😵‍💫😫

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BestRegards's avatar

Any suggestions how to get them off of queer theory mindset? Thanks.

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MLisa's avatar

Not a clue! If I knew, I would write a PITT story. For now we wait...mine has been in now 4-5 years and estranged for 2yrs. I think living in the cold hard world and learning life lessons the hard way is the only way out for those that are ideologically captured when they are older and into queer theory. Getting a "dose of reality" from ones peers seems to be the wake up call for most. Those that medicalize are the saddest stories.

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BestRegards's avatar

Very true. We have similar stories. It’s definitely a difficult battle. Unfortunately, when they go off on their own in the real world & struggle they blame their problems on their parents. They take no responsibility for their choices & actions. No gratitude. It’s parental abuse no one deserves.

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Mama Bear Proud's avatar

I agree, but the strategy of asking questions without judgement is a key element to planting seeds. Cult experts talk about this in how to interact with your kid in a cult. Cult experts also say that we don’t let adults just assume that they are happy in a cult, we try to ask critical thinking questions, not giving them studies, etc. Another aspect they talk about is finding when your kid is in his old authentic self, not the cult mind and ask a question or make a comment. I am estranged from my son and trying to talk to my older ally now estranged son is nearly impossible. I am doing this solo, there are not any friends or relatives who want to help.

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Runemasque's avatar

I really feel where you're at. My son blocked me when I could pass his trans tests. Still, I cannot stop thinking about how I might better be there for him, how I should interact. Who knows, things can change. They are young and may find that what feels like forever now becomes a transitory stage in their maturation.

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Mama Bear Proud's avatar

I do hope so. And I hope they do so before they harm their body too much. It’s just madness that the medical community and therapists are going along with this.

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Runemasque's avatar

I really like those points. Ask critical thinking questions. Do not throw evidence at them. Notice the difference between them being in cult mind and being in their own self, which I think also means the self that is the person that you've known all of their life.

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Awoman's avatar

I'm in your boat. It is nearly impossible to communicate at all when almost totally blocked. I did find one opening on Twitter. I can search his Account and read his posts and comments. I have dropped a heart here and there in reply to his comment to someone else. I haven't been blocked yet. Here's hoping...

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Mama Bear Proud's avatar

Does he know it’s you? Someday, he will reach out. They say it’s rare for someone to stay in a cult forever. I can see my son’s post on a SM platform, but I don’t need an acct to do so. I can’t respond because they are mostly highly witty, sophisticated tech posts. I could post on the ones where he relays how he is not doing well. Frustrating for me, because I tried to lead him out of his anxiety and depression.

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Awoman's avatar

I believe he does, yes but I don't make it obvious and my 'handle' is anonymous. A good emoji only response is good, also anything you can agree with him on is also good. Stay away from being overly emotional. Good luck.

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Melissa R.'s avatar

Yes, these are great ideas for connecting with a preteen or teen.

Once they launch to college, I agree with MLisa.

And I would say if your child is trans-identified in late high school, NB, tending to SJW stuff--skip college.

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GenderRealistMom's avatar

It's a case-by-case thing, really. Some kids will benefit from going away to college, where they can find new interests. Skipping college is a good idea when there is an actual plan of what to do instead (Simply getting a menial job will not necessarily help. Tons of trans identified young people work such jobs. Young people need positive goals.).

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Melissa R.'s avatar

Agreed.

Most parents who have had their children medicate an identity at college did not see it coming.

If there is a good communication before college--all the better.

A gap year could be helpful for some.

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