I am in it for the long haul. A mother walking a marathon, carrying a burden— the truth about the dangers of transitioning. I have been walking through this space now for 7 years. My daughter may have been embroiled in gender ideology and its social contagion for longer than that even. I must choose my questions and choose my moments, upsetting or offending her may lead to the closure of other possible moments when I want to raise the subject.
If you say that trans is a mental health condition and that “born in the wrong body” is a lie, you get locked out of Twitter for “ hate speech” if you say “ kill all TERFS” and use words like “ c-nt “ or threaten GC people, you are perfectly welcome on Twitter. Even obscene pictures of trans” women” playing with their “ titties”are fine!
Well said. Precisely.... talking about it with our children is so important...and tough! Saying it is one thing. Hearing and listening is another. Hopefully, the sun will shine and the truth of this ugly monster will be gone. Being blind and playing with fire, that's what this is.
So much of the anxiety and the near despair... and then picking yourself up is what I went through as my (unknown to me) Trans ex-H went into a "tailspin", lazy, capricious, taunting to the point of being a psychopath. I had never ever expected to find this kind of behaviour in my own house. And then he left... but he didn't stop trying to contact our children. I had to break their emotional bond with this utterly deluded man. So I did by textual analysis of every e-mail to them: "This is a lie, this is a half-truth, this is a manipulative statement". They remember very little because he was paralysed in his deluded state. He never plucked up the courage to put on trousers and come and see us.
We must get together to campaign for PROPER, SEX-REINFORCING psychotherapy. For children it is Dr Zucker's "watchful waiting". For grown adults... I don't know yet but I am hoping that a new group in the UK, the Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender, will come up with suitable therapy very soon. We have to stop the GI insanity or the West will gradually be overwhelmed with this, I fear. I keep fighting, fighting, fighting by nagging, nagging, nagging our elected representatives. To be fair the Conservative Government does seem to understand the seriousness of the GI hysteria.
With girls, I get the feeling that much of the contagion (not all cases, but a huge number of them) has to do with a childish, yet perhaps understandable, desire to "opt out" of being an adult, human female.
Body changes, violent porn — porn will always be with us, and I don't consider it inherently harmful; but the choking, forcing, all that despicable stuff must be terrifying to see as a kid — and extremely naive imagination, in which girls envision themselves as "cute," elfin, large-eyed anime boys with a lock of hair tossed over one eye, but never see the pot-bellied, balding slob of later life they might become ... all of it, egged on by foolish adults wanting to be "cool" and agree with the kidlets on everything, social media, the collapse of normal childhood person-to-person interactions, has contributed.
For boys, I strongly suspect that homophobia is behind a good number of cases. Society is cruel and bullying toward boys who do not conform to idiotic, religiously inspired ideas of what's "OK" to be as a boy or man. Sensing this disapproval, I suspect many think they can "opt out" by "becoming a girl," which they can't. And even with earlier transition, virtually none will become the "pretty" girls and women they imagine. They will, by and large, look like men playacting at being women.
So many of the commenters here arrive with religious prejudices fully intact and driving the bus. But honestly, if society were less foolish and rigid about what is "permissible" in terms of behavior among girls and boys, we'd have less of this insane trans nonsense. Hyper-genderization is not new, but it has been accelerated in recent decades.
I think a good number (if not most) parents here are liberal and either completely secular or not particularly religious. Yes, there was a prayer post and some religious replies but most are in a very benign, personal form. There are a few homophobic people here but most definitely are not. You will notice that homophobic posts don't get many "likes". BTW, my trans-identifying daughter actually told me that she wishes we raised her with religion (which we didn't). Go figure.
Thank you for writing this. “This is a marathon” is a mantra I tell myself and my ex. It’s a marathon with potholes and sink holes, many points along the way where you trip or drop and fall to pieces and have to get back up somehow because you have a job and another child and because your life matters too. And each time I call my brother and ask if he can hang out with my while I cry “this is so horrible, just so horrible....” and then the next day I wake up with my mantras “this is a marathon, don’t give up, hold on to hope....because I have no choice”
Yes a nearly 16yr old and a 14yr old. I blame a combination of teenage girl issues, RSHP lessons in primary and massive push of ideology in secondary then bolstered by social media, especially during lockdown. Pure nightmare.
I'm in the same boat, both my daughters and husband have been caught up in this madness. It is a nightmare. Their indoctrination came via the same channels and they don't see it.
No, fortunately he's not trying to change his gender. Sorry I didn't make myself clear. What I mean is that he's supporting the girls in this madness. This is what happens when you write something in haste.
Thank you very much, auch ich bin so dankbar, dass es ausser mir auch andere Personen und Eltern gibt, die in diesen schlechten Geschichte des Genderwahns ihr eigenes Denken aktivieren. Herzliche Grüsse
I have no idea where I’d be if I didn’t have the support of our ROGD parent group. It’s like you say…these groups are our lifelines. It’s as if we are in a comma and the group is what’s keeping us alive. The group and our faith for those of us who are religious.
It’s grief, pure grief. And anger at the senselessness of it all. Perfectly healthy bodies put on a dangerous journey of self imposed harm. How bad was the pain before transition...how bad could it have been to cause so much pain to themselves & the people that love them
Yes. grief and senselessness. I am confident that had my son not had access to wrong sex hormones, (one visit to Planned Parenthood), he would have weathered his anxiety and autism spectrum related issues in a fruitful, forward momentum way that would have allowed him to mature emotionally and thrive. It's relentlessly devastating what's been done to him and my family. So utterly wrong, unfair, and evil.
I do not believe anyone "thrives" on wrong sex hormones. That's all I'm comfortable sharing on this forum. He's been on hormones for around 1.5 years. Our contact is sparse.
Well, I cannot forsee ever giving my blessing to my son who is living a lie, which is diminishing his health and has eroded his compassion and respect for his parents.. He also looks bizarre and is delusional about this fact. I miss my healthy, handsome son who is squandering his potential.. It's so obviously an evil mind virus.
What can I say to my son in hopes he will wake up and understand this delusional mindset. He has fallen in love with another MTF person, got married and we found out on the internet. We use to be so close. He says he loves us still. I’m devastated to what he is doing. It’s destroying me and all my relationships. I just want to crawl away under a rock and be alone. He is my only child. I’m scared how far he will go. He’s been taking cross sex hormones he gets off the internet. He never has had any professional counseling- all on the internet. It’s criminal. I’m am helpless. What can I do?
I too have been dealing with all these things with our son going into our 3rd year. He will turn 22 in February. I would love to start a group in Bryan/College Station, TX. If anyone on here is in the area reach out to me at suervogt@msn.com
This message is pure gold! A great comfort that we're not alone in this, we do indeed carry the burden of truth and hang onto the hope that one day our children will know the truth that will set them free from this cult.
If you say that trans is a mental health condition and that “born in the wrong body” is a lie, you get locked out of Twitter for “ hate speech” if you say “ kill all TERFS” and use words like “ c-nt “ or threaten GC people, you are perfectly welcome on Twitter. Even obscene pictures of trans” women” playing with their “ titties”are fine!
Well said. Precisely.... talking about it with our children is so important...and tough! Saying it is one thing. Hearing and listening is another. Hopefully, the sun will shine and the truth of this ugly monster will be gone. Being blind and playing with fire, that's what this is.
So much of the anxiety and the near despair... and then picking yourself up is what I went through as my (unknown to me) Trans ex-H went into a "tailspin", lazy, capricious, taunting to the point of being a psychopath. I had never ever expected to find this kind of behaviour in my own house. And then he left... but he didn't stop trying to contact our children. I had to break their emotional bond with this utterly deluded man. So I did by textual analysis of every e-mail to them: "This is a lie, this is a half-truth, this is a manipulative statement". They remember very little because he was paralysed in his deluded state. He never plucked up the courage to put on trousers and come and see us.
We must get together to campaign for PROPER, SEX-REINFORCING psychotherapy. For children it is Dr Zucker's "watchful waiting". For grown adults... I don't know yet but I am hoping that a new group in the UK, the Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender, will come up with suitable therapy very soon. We have to stop the GI insanity or the West will gradually be overwhelmed with this, I fear. I keep fighting, fighting, fighting by nagging, nagging, nagging our elected representatives. To be fair the Conservative Government does seem to understand the seriousness of the GI hysteria.
It's been over a year for my boy. I feel that only other parents understand.
Gender schmender.
With girls, I get the feeling that much of the contagion (not all cases, but a huge number of them) has to do with a childish, yet perhaps understandable, desire to "opt out" of being an adult, human female.
Body changes, violent porn — porn will always be with us, and I don't consider it inherently harmful; but the choking, forcing, all that despicable stuff must be terrifying to see as a kid — and extremely naive imagination, in which girls envision themselves as "cute," elfin, large-eyed anime boys with a lock of hair tossed over one eye, but never see the pot-bellied, balding slob of later life they might become ... all of it, egged on by foolish adults wanting to be "cool" and agree with the kidlets on everything, social media, the collapse of normal childhood person-to-person interactions, has contributed.
For boys, I strongly suspect that homophobia is behind a good number of cases. Society is cruel and bullying toward boys who do not conform to idiotic, religiously inspired ideas of what's "OK" to be as a boy or man. Sensing this disapproval, I suspect many think they can "opt out" by "becoming a girl," which they can't. And even with earlier transition, virtually none will become the "pretty" girls and women they imagine. They will, by and large, look like men playacting at being women.
So many of the commenters here arrive with religious prejudices fully intact and driving the bus. But honestly, if society were less foolish and rigid about what is "permissible" in terms of behavior among girls and boys, we'd have less of this insane trans nonsense. Hyper-genderization is not new, but it has been accelerated in recent decades.
I think a good number (if not most) parents here are liberal and either completely secular or not particularly religious. Yes, there was a prayer post and some religious replies but most are in a very benign, personal form. There are a few homophobic people here but most definitely are not. You will notice that homophobic posts don't get many "likes". BTW, my trans-identifying daughter actually told me that she wishes we raised her with religion (which we didn't). Go figure.
But we never had teachers encouraging children to trans, nor a medical industry around them until comparatively recently. So while things such as homophobia and not knowing how to deal with puberty are factors, they are not all of the factors. I have episodes of things like this on my podcast. https://open.substack.com/pub/justingaffneysamuels/p/womens-colleges-arts-programs-social?r=6512g&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Thank you for writing this. “This is a marathon” is a mantra I tell myself and my ex. It’s a marathon with potholes and sink holes, many points along the way where you trip or drop and fall to pieces and have to get back up somehow because you have a job and another child and because your life matters too. And each time I call my brother and ask if he can hang out with my while I cry “this is so horrible, just so horrible....” and then the next day I wake up with my mantras “this is a marathon, don’t give up, hold on to hope....because I have no choice”
Thank you. My story is very similar. Let us hope that the tide is finally turning against the madness of gender ideology.
Thank you, and I couldn't agree with you more. Is there a better term that applies?
Kind regards, thank you❣️
I'm not crying you are 😭 nearly 5yrs with 2 here 💜
2?
Yes a nearly 16yr old and a 14yr old. I blame a combination of teenage girl issues, RSHP lessons in primary and massive push of ideology in secondary then bolstered by social media, especially during lockdown. Pure nightmare.
I'm in the same boat, both my daughters and husband have been caught up in this madness. It is a nightmare. Their indoctrination came via the same channels and they don't see it.
Is your husband saying he is a transwoman as well as your 2 daughters wanting to be transmen?
No, fortunately he's not trying to change his gender. Sorry I didn't make myself clear. What I mean is that he's supporting the girls in this madness. This is what happens when you write something in haste.
That's really hard for all of you. So sorry 😞
Wow, that is truly shocking. I can’t know how many times I’ve said this has to stop
Thank you very much, auch ich bin so dankbar, dass es ausser mir auch andere Personen und Eltern gibt, die in diesen schlechten Geschichte des Genderwahns ihr eigenes Denken aktivieren. Herzliche Grüsse
I have no idea where I’d be if I didn’t have the support of our ROGD parent group. It’s like you say…these groups are our lifelines. It’s as if we are in a comma and the group is what’s keeping us alive. The group and our faith for those of us who are religious.
It’s grief, pure grief. And anger at the senselessness of it all. Perfectly healthy bodies put on a dangerous journey of self imposed harm. How bad was the pain before transition...how bad could it have been to cause so much pain to themselves & the people that love them
I’ll never understand
Yes. grief and senselessness. I am confident that had my son not had access to wrong sex hormones, (one visit to Planned Parenthood), he would have weathered his anxiety and autism spectrum related issues in a fruitful, forward momentum way that would have allowed him to mature emotionally and thrive. It's relentlessly devastating what's been done to him and my family. So utterly wrong, unfair, and evil.
..so he isn’t thriving? I hope you don’t mind me asking. How long has he been on hormones & are you in contact with each other
I do not believe anyone "thrives" on wrong sex hormones. That's all I'm comfortable sharing on this forum. He's been on hormones for around 1.5 years. Our contact is sparse.
I think that’s my point. Not thriving. A year & a half for my son too, limited contact. If I thought he was thriving, he would have my blessing
Well, I cannot forsee ever giving my blessing to my son who is living a lie, which is diminishing his health and has eroded his compassion and respect for his parents.. He also looks bizarre and is delusional about this fact. I miss my healthy, handsome son who is squandering his potential.. It's so obviously an evil mind virus.
What can I say to my son in hopes he will wake up and understand this delusional mindset. He has fallen in love with another MTF person, got married and we found out on the internet. We use to be so close. He says he loves us still. I’m devastated to what he is doing. It’s destroying me and all my relationships. I just want to crawl away under a rock and be alone. He is my only child. I’m scared how far he will go. He’s been taking cross sex hormones he gets off the internet. He never has had any professional counseling- all on the internet. It’s criminal. I’m am helpless. What can I do?
GOOD!! As parents—we must ALL take an – out of silence fear stance – for our opposite gender-dysphoric-thinker-believer, minors. 
I too have been dealing with all these things with our son going into our 3rd year. He will turn 22 in February. I would love to start a group in Bryan/College Station, TX. If anyone on here is in the area reach out to me at suervogt@msn.com
This message is pure gold! A great comfort that we're not alone in this, we do indeed carry the burden of truth and hang onto the hope that one day our children will know the truth that will set them free from this cult.