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Laura Wiley Haynes's avatar

Do you have a tax exempt donation status? I would support this!

I love the idea of this project. It seems you could look at the morphing of key terms and the leading edge of the activist push-- from "just want to pee" to "TWAW"-- and learn a lot.

I'd look to see when funding hit NGOs like ACLU, and when their language & focus changed. When ratio of LGB tipped to TQIA++ How Denton's Document language was taken up by whom and which media pumped what info most..

I think some of this contagion correlates with early life differences in modernity. Most people over 50 were raised by parents/ family - w siblings, not daycare workers in groups of same age baby-peers. I don't know what you'd sort for to find this out but I think 10-15 years ago you might see what was happening in these kids' babyhoods. Suicidality has a 0-3 association according to Dr Allan Schore. What childrearing books were those parents raving about? Cry it out? Obsessions on Mumsnet. Etc.

When I grew up in 1960s and 70's, we had more peace and quiet, more nature, more models of maturity per child, more grandparent presence, more lessons imparted more thoughtfully. More one on one conversations and attention/intimacy.

Even if baby is adjusted & content, group care is simply different and maybe not optimal developmentally. Maybe "dissociation" is an infant-strategy when mildly bothered/stressed in long day in daycare. Something small can have a butterfly effect of later disembodiment.

Thanks for looking into this and LMK re tax deductibility status.

Laura Haynes (suspended from twitter not fairly if you care to amplify... Stephanie Winn posted about it...

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Laura Wiley Haynes's avatar

PS just passively consuming cartoons vs running and climbing trees, free range... so many changes...

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GadflyBytes's avatar

Many of the people saying medical support for transition is a human right do not support healthcare in general as a human right. How can they be so blind to this insane hypocrisy?

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Ellen's avatar

As I've been researching this, sometimes I follow things on google, like the prompts about "what are the 72 genders" ... to see where it leads. Or I type things that basically relate to how I feel, as someone who feels like some part of my being is not-fully-female (which is separate from the obvious and unchangeable fact that my body is female. How the hell did gender non-conformity become a medical condition?)

Anyway .. the same "health" 'information" sites that have lied all through covid about valid treatments, doctors with integrity, and pretended the injections were "safe and effective", we'll tell you all you need to know in simple bullet points, are quick to be "helpful" in explaining gender.

The clickbait at the end to get to more info are things that can quickly lead a child on a trail, without even the Reddits and Tumblrs and more private spaces, to be reading about gender non-conformity and how to explore that, one can simply - and, reversibly - experiment with clothing, hair, makeup, etc.

No problem there, and that is reversible. Except the next page is about how some people choose to go farther, and there's like a one to the next trail that goes from experiment with clothing to some people choose to use gender "affirming" hormones, and, next page, some choose gender "affirming" surgeries.

I remember reading something that had some quotes from a girl named Nessie who seemed to identify as nonbinary, or something, I don't remember exactly but the article referenced her like she was a typical, helpful, gender non-conforming youth explaining some basic things .. and I looked up more about her out of curiosity, and there she is raising funds for "top surgery". (On the fundraising platform, of course, that tried to take money, based on lies, from the peaceful Canadian truckers)

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-nessie-get-top-surgery?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

I'm sure there is much to be discovered in this project and so much grooming / coercion lurking in all sorts of places. Yet also in plain sight, in sites and search engines that want our trust to advise about health, are trails where vulnerable kids can one moment feel "affirmed" that not everyone fits into stereotypical gender roles (yes, of course), and the next moment be pressing the button to learn more about medical options.

I came upon this site quickly, I forgot from where, probably google. Remember the same political forces who were spreading the lies that prescribing actually safe medicines to prepare for / treat covid was some sort of crime needing medical license suspension, are just fine with this, online gender clinics - https://www.gendergp.com/

So much respect for all of you. The truth will come out.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

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GadflyBytes's avatar

Twitter, Reddit and so many other sites are safeguarding groomers and abusers, instead of vulnerable youth. It’s as astonishing to see what Twitter will allow, as it is what they will not.

I was recently put in Twitter jail for replying to a post about HRC. In it I added ‘bayonet butt raping Saharan ‘officials’, eg Qaddafi’ to her list of transgressions. Nothing factually untrue about that, but also, I was drawing attention to her violent hypocrisy, obviously not endorsing that behavior toward anyone. Yet, it was my account flagged, not the actual warmonger who did this, indirectly or not. I’m done with Twitter. It is a waste of time anyway.

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Ellen's avatar

Yes .. Twitter, etc, are completely captured by the dishonest narrative. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bending-the-first-amendment-past

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EDIJester's avatar

What an excellent project

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Eliza Mann's avatar

That's exciting news! Will consider funding this, as it sounds very worthwhile.

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jacob silverman's avatar

seems to me that "gender dysphoria" creates tribes. "I am THIS." You are THAT. It creates not harmony but tribal conflicts.

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Kittywampus's avatar

And one of the conflicts is between children and parents.

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Annienonymous's avatar

Thank you

This is a very exciting innovation.

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Pat's avatar

Sounds like a really important piece of research.

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Patrick Butler 1930's avatar

We will be pledging our financial support for this Project directly to Shannon Boschy. However, we will include this link to the following four memos in which we express our concern with using the same language that trans promoters use. www.equality4women.org/sex-change-law

- First Step: Eschew “The Master’s Tools” – His Words

- Second Step: Outlaw legal sex change!

- Third step: Expose 1) what the trans idea promises and 2) what it imposes on everybody

- Fourth step: Please don’t say gender when you mean sex!

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CrankyOldLady's avatar

I was just listening to the Hidden Brain episodes on Reframing Your Realty (2 parts) and the science of mindsets. Very interesting to consider in the context of how youth are absorbing the conversations and fulling feeling trans. My daughter is absolutely convinced they are dysphoric (they are mostly definitely not) and play acts being horrified at being misgendered.

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distressed parent's avatar

Why are you using "they" instead of "she" in reference to your daughter?? We must not give in to the twisting of reality with nonsensical language.

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CrankyOldLady's avatar

Because I believe in preserving the relationship with my child above all and they only make a big deal out of that. They know how I feel about other things like binders, hormones, and JK Rowling (haha). So if this is the one thing that keeps them from shutting me out of their life, its worth it. Giving them ammunition to brand me as a horrible transphobe who disrespects their pronouns will just drive my kid further into the the hands of the trans-agenda. Plus, I am all for a gender neutral pronoun if we find a good one that anyone can use.

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distressed parent's avatar

Does your daughter read your PITT comments? Don't you have an anonymous PITT posting name? I respectfully disagree on your wish for a gender neutral pronoun. His and Her are the reality pronouns for biological sex. The word "gender"has been mangled. Gender needs to go back to its meaning as biological sex.

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

With all respect -- and speaking as someone who refuses to refer to my child as “they” -- the term “gender,” as I understand it, is used to mean biological sex only as a euphemism because of our collective prudishness about a word that also refers to coitus and other sexual activity. Wasn’t “gender” originally a linguistic term (in languages that have grammatical gender, where words for even inanimate objects are “masculine” or “feminine” or sometimes “neuter”)?

IMO, using “gender” when what is meant is (biological, actual, real, male or female) sex is mangling the language. I am a woman, I am of the female sex, I do not have a “gender” because I don’t know what that means (and have never seen a good definition of the term).

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CrankyOldLady's avatar

Well, I choose not make pronouns the hill to die on because my priority is my child. And since neither of us are linguists, I don't think we should get into a back and forth about what are the right words for things and what they mean.

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LovingMother's avatar

Yeah, I understand that you do what you feel you need to do when you speak with your daughter... But, let's please try to use real language when conversing among ourselves. We won't be able to beat the RGT cult if we use their language. With the cult language, cis/trans, "using pronouns", etc. we make no sense and then we cannot push back. First it's the mind and then it's the body... There is a PITT article on that.

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CrankyOldLady's avatar

I thought language police was only the purview of Trans activists. I do think that trying to callout every nitpicky thing is just mimicking the strategies we find annoying about the activists. And I do think making some concessions to relatively inconsequential things is the way to push the tide back. PITT articles are all opinion pieces and everyone is allowed to think for themselves-Goodness, I do hope our tactics don't end up being just like theirs. I don't have a problem with they or using anyone else's requested pronouns, I just don't signify pronouns when asked myself--not an illegitimate position in this group, I hope. If the Chinese can don't distinguish between he and she, I have no umbrage.

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Lesbian Mom's avatar

Wow. This is amazing. It seems many teens now are using Discord.

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Brielle's avatar

Amazing

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Tom in Denver's avatar

My son uses Discord and nothing else.

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Claire Frost's avatar

Re: Dr Christakis, my son got sucked into gender ideology at Yale. I asked Dr Christakis for his help to stop Yale from hurting students. He said no. It was polite but it was still no. I don’t respect people who want to be experts in theory only.

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Not Jenny's avatar

His post says peanut allergy is a contagion? This is a dangerous stance. Peanut allergy is rising along with a lot of other allergies in the west in response to environmental changes that we poorly understand. Don't tell anyone their peanut allergy and anaphylactic reactions are all in their head!

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MamaBearProud's avatar

I'm sorry. I know of someone who graduated from Yale. As a RA, he mediated between parents and young girl declaring she was trans. (I think about them and hope they have researched this ideology.) He is clearly captured and offered to do the same for us, which I asked many questions to get him really thinking about this since he knew our son for many years and should have got him thinking about what he was taught. I hope your son has desisted/detransed by now.

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Claire Frost's avatar

Thank you for your kind words. No, unfortunately he has not detransitioned.

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Andy Martin's avatar

Dr. Christakis shows considerable bravery in the video included in the background story.

https://www.thefire.org/resources/spotlight/yale-university-school-feature/halloween-costume-controversy/

What ever his reasons for politely saying no, I think he deserves a great deal of respect

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LovingMother's avatar

Elite schools are terrible regarding Gender Indoctrination. and Medicalization. It's where RGT originated and got fanned I believe. I am glad Christakis can help in this broad way now. And I feel the pain of Claire Frost.

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IceSkater40's avatar

If there is a way to include discord I think this is an important location to include. It’s the current hotspot of discussion I believe along with some aspects of IG as well. But discord has tons of groups and teens flocked there during Covid lockdowns and there are entire groups dedicated to trans there now. (Format may be harder to work with though - not sure it’s possible to crawl discord with an ai unless they’re in the groups)

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Kittywampus's avatar

I was thinking the same. I suspect that this is where my son is being influenced. He's 19 and I have no real insight. Reddit is another hotspot for natal males.

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

Not just boys (natal males) -- my daughter seems to see a lot of Reddit as well.

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Kittywampus's avatar

They have some large FtM groups on Reddit. I think of Tumblr, YouTube, and TikTok as the main places that girls hang out and imagine themselves as cute boys - but for sure Reddit is active too.

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MeMyselfandI's avatar

Mine too. He's thankfully a minor still and we cut off access to social media to buy some time to let him mature without the influence of social media.

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Beeswax's avatar

This is a great project. it will provide a ton of hard data, and give us a trail to follow for a lot of kids, especially those who are neck-deep in social media or will be soon.

But there is another villainous actor already doing tremendous harm right under our noses: the schools. In-class gender education is a plague, at least in the United States. I don’t know how the schools work in Canada, but here, school districts have a lot of autonomy. Trans and allied teachers are committed to the mass indoctrination of children, starting in kindergarten. Since gender ideology is strongly supported in Canada, including through punitive speech codes and the cancelling of gender-critical academics, I imagine the zeal to indoctrinate five year-olds is as strong there are it is in the U.S.

Rather than attach a bunch of links, I’ll provide just one, in order to open the door a crack. Christopher Rufo collects the curricula of specific school districts, sent to him by whistleblowers. Read the articles and visit the links in each one. The curricula themselves are provided. Some of them go on for hundreds of pages. They comprise the nuts and bolts of this ideology and how it is taught to our innocent children. At the risk of sounding hyperbolic, you can follow these bread crumbs all the way to hell.

https://christopherrufo.com/gender-soldiers/

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LovingMother's avatar

I agree with you. Our daughter was groomed by fellow students at school and affirmed by teachers which is an incredibly harmful step. Teachers don't stop either no matter what a parent says - even if they sometimes pretend to you that they will/have. Even so, I think this study will be significant. RGT has to be taken down. It will take some combination of scientific studies, changes in elected officials, parent awareness.... I think the unions will have to be weakened. I also think we need to see some of the worst butcher surgeons do jail time. It would help give others pause.

I read somewhere that the majority of Americans - 60% - do not think that a person can change their sex. What the heck is up with the other 40% of people? They likely have signs on their lawns saying that they "BELIEVE in science/love is love"... etc. Damaging young people with cross sex hormones and surgeries without any attempt to find out what is really troubling them is neither scientific nor loving.

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Karole's avatar

Thank you for the link. Yes, schools are a driving force today. Acknowledging Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, Europe has moved away from hormone treatment except in the cases of traditional early-onset GD. Schools are actively working at producing a population of students who will be able to say they have been GD since they were five or six. Parents may be aware of the LGBTQ components of sex-ed curriculum, but many, many are unaware of it coming through Social and Emotional Learning theory, anti-bullying and "diversity, equity, inclusion" programs, library books, etc. The National Sex Education Standards (developed by GLSEN, Advocates for Youth - the youth arm of Planned Parenthood - and other LGBTQ activist/recruiting organizations) have been adopted in whole or in part by many school districts across the country and include understanding sexual orientation and gender identity by the end of second grade. Our district teaches kindergartners that the vuvla is usually found on the bodies of girls, and the penis is usually found on the body of boys. A learning objective for fourth graders is that they understand how puberty blockers can help students who identify as trans. It is coming at kids from all directions.

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Kittywampus's avatar

It's just extraordinary that concepts and identities forged mostly on Tumblr have now found their way into schools.

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Karole's avatar

Most people have no idea how front-line schools are in the marketing of trans. Those "concepts and identities" have been increasingly infiltrating schools for years. Comprehensive, inclusive sex education has always been about social change, not biology. SIECUS, an offshoot of Planned Parenthood formed in 1964, rebranded itself a couple of years ago and proudly proclaims "SIECUS: Sex Ed for Social Change." There is a consortium of national and international pro-LGBTQ organizations/associations (including UNESCO) that are spinning their new sexual revolution as reproductive justice to free children, adolescents, and teens from the sexual repression of parents and society. Various groups in that consortium developed the National Sex Education Standards adopted by school districts across the country. The standards introduce sexual orientation and gender identity by second grade with information given to fourth-graders about puberty blockers being beneficial to students who identify as transgender. You might be interested in the Amaze Youtube channel produced by NSES-co-developer Advocates for Youth (the youth arm of Planned Parenthood) that include multiple animated videos on changing genders. Schools use them as resources. At this point, I'm not surprised that so many kids are gender confused; I'm surprised that any of them are not.

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Beeswax's avatar

I agree with everything you’ve said and I will donate to this project. We have to turn over every stone. I hope you’re correct in your prediction that the public schools can be reformed. It will require what is essentially a revolution, because trans ideology is more virulent and contagious than covid and has corrupted every institution of society.

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I’ve been aware of this issue since the late 1970s. Yup, that long. As an old lesbian, I have fought against, and witnessed first-hand, the abuse of women and the decimation of my once-thriving lesbian community due to the promulgation of queer theory and trans ideology. It has also negatively affected gay men, although not to the same degree in terms of numbers. But the mutilation of even one gay kid, or any kid of whatever sexual orientation, is one too many.

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