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Sharon Lee COWAN's avatar

I'd like to participate, because I am seeing changes in my daughter, but she is now 21, started on testosterone at 20, and I do not know the name or dosage of the medication she is on.

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LovingMother's avatar

Yes, lets get data to the FDA and activate MAHA.

Backing "gender affirming medical care" which is not "medical care" at all - out of the Affordable Care Act/Obama Care would be a good move.

Once, Radioactive Water Was A Health Fad, like Testosterone for girls/women.

The FDA finally took it down, as I hope they do "gender affirming medical care" in 2025.

https://hackaday.com/2023/11/10/radioactive-water-was-once-a-horrifying-health-fad/

"What kind of person did it take to capitalize on peoples’ ignorance in such a selfish way? A man like William Bailey, the person behind Radithor and quite a few other quack remedies."

So much of medicine now capitalizes on young people's ignorance and confusion.

William Bailey sounds a lot like Harry Benjamin who got his start peddling a quack remedy for TB before he got into "sex changes". The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) was originally the Harry Benjamin Association. By now, we know how corrupt and self serving WPATH is.

Then, there was Dr. John Money and Kinsey...

Please see:

Transgender Leviathan by Pedro Gonzales

https://americanprinciplesproject.org/media/new-app-report-exposes-origins-influence-transgender-leviathan/

https://pitt.substack.com/p/lets-read-the-transgender-leviathan

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LovingMother's avatar

Really, it is not about the "side effects" of "gender affirming care" but the effects of doing things like pumping girls & young women full of Testosterone via our medical complex.

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Mothers Grim's avatar

While a good idea, I know that an action was put out on a parent board in 2018. I do not know how many concerned parents did this at the time but I know some did.

Since that time the FDA has really shown their true colors. Rainbow colors, that is!

By all means submit but be aware of what they have done in recent years around the LGBTQ+ agenda. I know they held a 'teen listening session' in 2021. Who did they 'listen to'? They 'listened to ' what everyone calls today "transgender teens." These were all of 7 females ages 13-16 who believe they are trans. Yes, people with extreme knowledge and no vulnerability! And they put them in a class already called 'transgender.' There is a world of difference between believing and being and the FDA has bought the 'being' narrative. Trans is real in their eyes.

Here is another post on the FDA website from last summer:

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/advancing-clinical-trial-participation-lgbtqia-community

This not not about concerns around the so-called care these patient get but about "meeting the community where they want to be met." Since they have built a community psych-op'ed about needing access to drugs and surgeries for transition it is about something else.

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Gary Trieste's avatar

Young women are doing this en masse only relatively recently, so we don't know the long term chronic effects.

The list here seems subclinical and things that a determined female FTM self medicator could weather without too much difficulty.

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LovingMother's avatar

Put another way, are you aware that insurance now pays for girls/young women to take Testosterone - which is destructive to their bodies? If the college health service told them that they had to pay for it, for instance, they might hesitate. Or, if they understood it would harm them rather than being told by medical staff that everything would be rainbows and unicorns...

You do not have to be the least bit "determined" in this gender moment in America. Planned Parenthood hands out cross sex hormones on one visit - cheap - but then PP makes a profit from insurance - in fact, they make more money off the Gender Hoax than anything else now.

"subclinical"? really? Have you lived in this world at all with your family?

And, why should everyone else carry the costs on insurance?

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LovingMother's avatar

Uh, self medicator is one thing, but these young people are encouraged by "health care" at universities. It should not be so easy and so encouraged.

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MsFrizzle's avatar

I'm assuming that I cannot use this link to report problems experienced by my adult son that occurred not long after beginning testosterone blockers and estradiol. This was several years ago. He was 19 at the time and had run away to a glitter family. He experienced suicide idealization (and 2 attempts), a nearly fatal pulmonary embolism, a 100 lb. weight gain, numerous GI system problems, and enough mental health issues to justify (in his mind) the inability to work or go to school. No matter: the state has just provided disability payments and Medicaid will cover the treatments. I tried to report this (especially the pulmonary embolism) to our state board of medicine but, of course, they could do nothing for me because the patient was an adult. You would think the prescribing endocrinologist would discontinue the estradiol but, of course he did not. They simply put him on blood thinners FOR LIFE. I only found this out after the fact. Despite all of this, my son has no intention of giving up his "affirming" medicine.

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Ilene Yohay's avatar

This is very important !!!

When you Make a complaint to the fda they make the doctor fill out pages and pages of forms for the fda. Doctors hate these forms. We should inundate doctors with these forms so they stop prescribing these meds for not safe reasons !

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Girl Mom's avatar

When my daughter first started testosterone, I discovered all these side effects, plus brain changes that occur, leading to decreased verbal and reasoning ability. That certainly happened! She also has varicose veins and an Adam's apple now, at 21. I remember also reading about tooth loss that occurs with at least one of these hormones. Sadly, I learned that the average life span for trans people, who started medicalizing at 18, is only 32 years old! That Rue Paul drag queen tranny just died and he was 32, although the cause was not shared with the public. Even if they make it past 32, there will be such low quality of life...if only they would take this seriously before starting on this destructive trajectory!

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Gary Trieste's avatar

RuPaul Andre Charles still alive November 17, 1960 (age 64)

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Girl Mom's avatar

No, this was about a drag queen with the RuPaul show, not RuPaul. His name was The Vivienne. He recently died at 32. His real name was James Lee Williams and died with no suspicious causes. It could have been from the physical toll taken on his body from wrong sex hormones, etc.

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LAZULI's avatar

RuPaul is not transgender. Hush now. The adults are talking.

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Chris P B Acon's avatar

Is anyone looking at the effects these medications may have on children of mothers who have been on Goserelin/Luproid/Leuprorelin/Zoladex shortly before or overlapping with pregnancy?

I have a son who has some rare health challenges that are not known to others in our immediate family. His mother was on Zoladex for endometriosis right up until she got pregnant.

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Chris P B Acon's avatar

Thank you! I will check it out

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aileen's avatar

And once the side effects are noted then...may the arrests begin. All doctors, counsellors, psychotherapists, teachers, nurses...everyone who played a part in active deception and subsequent neglect of true integrity, ethics and care, all need to be arrested and held accountable for grave harm.

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Affirm Reality's avatar

Finally!! I was hoping someone would do a post with information to report these horrible effects of this experimental 'treament.'

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Grandma Eileen's avatar

Hard to believe that these side effects are ignored! How can anyone prescribe or willingly give cross-sex hormones to another human being? The list your provided is long and horrific. No one in their right mind would consent to taking a drug that could cause any or all of those side effects. And that is my point: IN THEIR RIGHT MIND. The world needs to focus on the causes not the symptoms. Wanting to become the opposite sex, believing that it is possible to make this transformation, willingly taking drugs to change your physical appearance into something it can never functionally become and then consenting to surgery to remove healthy normal body parts - this is clearly someone who is suffering mentally, emotionally, physically and possibly spiritually. This is abnormal behavior and abnormal thinking. How can any doctor who has taken the sworn oath "To do no harm..." support this trans ideology? Too many children and young adults have been harmed, too many have been mutilated, too many are suffering from the side effects from these "magical" drugs. It sickens me. Accountability 100% - I am praying for judgment day.

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Affirm Reality's avatar

Me too. It can't come soon enough!! I know a lot of people feel this way.

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Timothy Carignan's avatar

Yes, but OTHER THAN ALL THOSE SIDE EFFECTS, puberty blockers are harmless.

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Discrete Music's avatar

“Gender affirming care.”

Is that a Frank Luntz invention?

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Gary Trieste's avatar

Gender Confounding Care.

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DLM's avatar

This is heart breaking. My son takes estrogen. He is obese and has minor scoliosis. His aunts have or had MS and lupus. His brother and father have high cholesterol. His brother, grandfather, cousin and I have a history of asthma, his great grandmother, grand mother and I had or have arthritis, His father is an alcoholic. My father has had five people with Alzheimer’s in his immediate family. Did anyone take a family history before they prescribed estrogen? Did they give him and read him a list of these risks before prescribing an elective medication? Did the LGBT club tell him to lie about his family history although he could not lie about his weight. They could have at least screened him for these conditions. If they found his scoliosis or any thing else would that have made a difference?

They act as if prescribing hormones is the exact equivalent of talking someone off a ledge.

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Un-silent's avatar

In reality, prescribing those hormones are like pushing them off a ledge.

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Charlene's avatar

I often wonder if anyone did a health screen before starting my 23 yr old son on hormones. I had a brain aneurysm. ( hemorrhagic stroke) and my doctor said I should never go on hormones after my breast cancer treatment because of the increase of a stroke.

Also I have osteoporosis. I have ulcerative colitis.

Heart disease runs in our family.

Did they skip over the health screen? Did my son just forget about his Mom’s health issues?

He is just cutting years off of his life.

I wish I knew who his doctor was. I am so mad!

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Anon's avatar

…you wish you knew who your son’s doctor was, that sounds familiar. My son would not tell me who’s his was/is either. Why would you hide that information if you weren’t proud of the wonderful treatment you were getting. It’s sick beyond belief

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DLM's avatar

It’s funny how timing is sometimes. Yesterday after I read the article my parents and I were deciding who to sit with at a fundraiser dinner. My mother rejected sitting with someone because my father is still mad at her brother because he gave my mother the silver nitrate treatment that caused her interstitial cystitis. It was a treatment for bladder infections at the time. It may still be, but my mother did not tolerate it and had over a year of pain. She did recover. No one accused him of malpractice, but my father is still angry. That was 40 years ago.

Of course we are furious at the doctors who are doing extreme unproven medical “treatments” on the bodies of our children to treat them for a vague and undiagnosable mental illness.

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Just a Mom's avatar

Does anyone know if we can report adverse effects from medical devices (binders) which are not approved by the FDA? Binders cause so many health issues but are sold in department stores as if they are bras or tank tops. They should be banned, preferably, or slapped with a warning label, or at the very least put on the FDA's radar, especially considering they are used so often by children. But it sounds like the this reporting tool is only for FDA-approved products?

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Affirm Reality's avatar

My daughter wore a binder for a year at 15, without our knowledge her therapist gave one to her! She had rib pain, and reported now one rib is higher than the other. Now one of her lymph nodes near where the binder was has been swollen for 4 months, been to 3 doctors and now have to surgically remove the painful abcess. I've read that possivle for binders to constrict the flow of lymph pathways, I wouldn't be surprised if this was caused by her binder wearing. Terrible. I wish we could sue TomboyX and the other brands marketing to kids. So wrong this whole movement.

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Ollies mom's avatar

Hi Just piping in- my daughter recently asked for binder and trans tape. Is trans tape worse- this is a nightmare for me. She has the binder but has not been using it. Which is a win for me.. we are going to Bahamas and she asked for the tape :(

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Just a Mom's avatar

These are exactly the types of side effects that should put binders on the radar of the FDA. These are being sold to kids as "harmless" and there are touted as safe by countless trans-related websites and even medical websites, not to mention it's all over social media sites our kids frequent that binders are safe. Yet there is story after story of physical harm. I'm very sorry for your daughter's health issues. Shame on the therapist for giving a child an instrument of self-harm behind your back! I hope you'll consider reporting the therapist to your state's board, if possible, and/or letting the therapist know what sort of health issues the binder caused your daughter. You are so right that this movement is so wrong. It's criminal.

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Emily Ann's avatar

Good point. I used to work in pharma communications, and I believe the binder would need to be classified as a "medical device" in order to be regulated by the FDA and have any negative side effects cataloged and reported. I've never seen an initiative to get that classified as such, or if it's even possible, but might be worth someone looking at.

Per Section 201(h)(1) of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, a device is:

An instrument, apparatus, implement, machine, contrivance, implant, in vitro reagent, or other similar or related article, including a component part, or accessory which is:

(A) recognized in the official National Formulary, or the United States Pharmacopoeia, or any supplement to them,

(B) intended for use in the diagnosis of disease or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease, in man or other animals, or

(C) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals, and which does not achieve its primary intended purposes through chemical action within or on the body of man or other animals and which is not dependent upon being metabolized for the achievement of its primary intended purposes. The term "device" does not include software functions excluded pursuant to section 520(o).

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CA mom's avatar

Not to mention, they can also be shipped to a kid in “discrete packaging” to circumvent parental protection from said risks.

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