There are actually quite a number of girls who identify as “gay boys” (i.e. they are girls attracted to boys and are therefore straight in sane world) and men who identify as “lesbians” (same deal). My daughter is one of those girls. While I think the scenario you mention is quite common too, there are definitely other reasons why people…
There are actually quite a number of girls who identify as “gay boys” (i.e. they are girls attracted to boys and are therefore straight in sane world) and men who identify as “lesbians” (same deal). My daughter is one of those girls. While I think the scenario you mention is quite common too, there are definitely other reasons why people identify as trans. I think for my daughter it started out because being gay was so much cooler, and she was bullied and made to feel ashamed for being a “cis-het” white girl from a middle class family.
I disagree. It would be fine if my daughter was a lesbian (at least if it were genuine and not a performance for internet disadvantaged identity points) but as she’s gotten older it’s completely obvious that she’s not - she is attracted at least primarily to males. She gets crushes on males, looks at guys, writes and thinks about and draws male characters. She doesn’t talk about girls the same way. Yet she says she’s a boy. A gay boy.
I don’t disagree with you that for many people, being same-sex attracted is the reason they decide they are the opposite sex. But I don’t understand how you can insist that it has to be the reason for everyone when there are clearly many people who transition who are not same-sex attracted. What about all the well-publicized cases of men who are trying to insist on joining lesbian groups and accusing women who won’t sleep with them of bigotry? Or the men in women’s prisons who are having sex with female prisoners? It seems obvious that these types didn’t start identifying as trans because they were same-sex attracted.
Their compulsion to imitate the opposite sex is amplified by doctors and other sexual mimics. 95-97% of children who claim gender dysphoria and have behaviors not common to their sex are lesbian are gay. I’ve read these numbers for years.
It’s a question do they imitate women a hour a day or the entire time when they are awake.
We don’t know the people you cite claimed gender dysphoria as a child. We do know they had the behavior of imitating the opposite sex as adults. It’s not even clear they had behaviors unusual for their sex ever in their lives.
Trans widows were so often married to aggressive, assertive masculine men who suddenly began imitating women.
A man claiming to have periods, wanting genital surgery, wanting to be sterilized, wanting steroid hormones, grooming themselves to look like prostitutes are doing so in service of imitating the opposite sex. It’s not in service of lacking assertion, being gentle, or other features of gay behavior for some men.
From this:
Young gay men who aren’t assertive, dislike rough-and-tumble play and other typically male behaviors aren’t imitating women.
Young Lesbians who are stoic, assertive and enjoy rough-and-tumble play aren’t imitating men.
Men who compulsively imitate females must work constantly to maintain the imitation. I suspect Women who compulsively imitate men must work constantly to maintain the imitation.
That’s the key difference.
Displaying behaviors uncommon to your sex is not compulsively imitating the other sex.
Likewise compulsively imitating the opposite sex is not being lesbian or gay.
If you have behaviors uncommon to your sex and teen angst over adult sexuality, 97 times out of 100 you’re lesbian or gay.
Your daughter, wanting to “be a gay man” is saying one thing, which i discuss extensively in relation to men, but it works almost the same for women.
“I want to imitate a gay man”
She may be entirely heterosexual. I have also in my half century of gay life also met a lot of bisexual women who want to have sex with a gay man - not a straight man - a gay man - and lately I’ve found that sometimes they believe if they act like (imitate) a man they may have sex with gay man.
This is called “if I imitate a man and stay around gay men who will never have sex with me (La Cage aux Folles notwithstanding) I don’t have to deal with straight men coming on to me and I will not have to deal with heterosexual sex”.
So ask yourself:
My daughter wants to imitate gay men, has crushes on gay men, and will never be attracted to men she would have sex with.
It the imitation becomes a compulsion, you have a sexual mimic. If it progresses she will become more aggressive in the imitation and resort to self-harm.
In all cases she’s not going to have sex with men, and is not attracted sexually to men who are attracted to her sexually.
Think about it.
Talk to a Lesbian. You’ll be surprised at the behaviors which you, unless you’re a Lesbian, would never occur to you to be Lesbian behaviors.
That’s why I say.
Assume they are lesbian or gay, and get them to talk to the appropriate counselor.
Parents can’t give them the talk.
Straight “affirmation” shrinks can’t.
And heaven help if she meets a compulsive sexual mimic.
IMO, there is simply no way that 95-97% figure is close to accurate. This insanity is so pervasive that hundreds of thousands if not millions of heterosexual children and young adults have also been caught up in it.
Trust me, I'm not at all dismissing the effect it has had on homosexual children and young adults.
In the late 80’s Green published a book on “sissy boys” or boys having many behaviors in common with girls - gentle, enjoying dolls, playing dress-up - which we use the term “sissy” for.
These boys almost always grow up to be gay. Within the research period it was perhaps 80% or better, but many gay men don’t come out until later in life so it will increase the longer you observe.
Kinsey institute had similar studies and other writers took on the subject until it was irrevocably tainted with trans advocacy.
Pre-child transing the data shows very high rate of conversion.
When trans enters the picture it relabeled teen angst over gay or lesbian behavior as trans and becoming gay or lesbian as “desistence” Trans people have an overwhelming compulsion to label all human behaviors in relation to trans so I discount all labels and observations as both false and manipulated. The moment the word “gender” is used is the moment logic fails because gender is used precisely to hide sex, and render the phenomenon “transgenderist” instead of sex related behavior.
The probability of a boy sharing a large number of behaviors with girls becoming in their lifetime a gay man or bisexual begins to asymptotically approach 100% once You look clearly at reports.
So: simple idea. If a boy has behaviors we more often see in girls, the chance that he isn’t gay will decline through this kids. It’s sufficient for the most part to identify them as gay and get them inmcontact with a gay counselor who can help them understand that they may not end up like their dad but there are many other ways for them to be a happy adult by looking at livea of successful gay men.
It however is of necessary. There are quite a few boys who become gay as adults who have only few if any female behaviors, quite ordinary overall.
Therefore assuming a boy who shares behaviors with girls ans lacks common behaviors with other boys will become gay as an adult is ar least 80%-90% accurate by end puberty by the numbers. Lifetime identification is likely100% but there is no data (for me other than the 1000’s of gay men I’ve known over decadea. I can count the number of sissy heterosexuals on one hand over 60 years.
When 95-97% resolve to lesbian or gay, therw are exceptions and I expect to hear “not my son not my daughter”. A Lesbian or Gay counselor will find these trivially. That’s the point, assume Lesbian or Gay, get that counselor to talk with them and help them through - 95%-97% of the time - the issues they face. If Gaydar or Lesbar (?!) doesn’t kick in, then like any good counselor they can work through their teen angst.
It routes them away from people with a compulsion to imitate the opposite sex, or doctors who don’t understand the compulsion.
Would you rather your daughter speak to a trans affirming doctor or a trans affirming trans?
You can’t change sexual orientation. Ever. You can’t change sex. Ever. Most gays and lesbians know that and wouldn’t dream of “recruiting”
There are actually quite a number of girls who identify as “gay boys” (i.e. they are girls attracted to boys and are therefore straight in sane world) and men who identify as “lesbians” (same deal). My daughter is one of those girls. While I think the scenario you mention is quite common too, there are definitely other reasons why people identify as trans. I think for my daughter it started out because being gay was so much cooler, and she was bullied and made to feel ashamed for being a “cis-het” white girl from a middle class family.
They don’t identify as trans; they are told they do. They don’t identify as the sexuality of their parents because they are gay or lesbian.
I disagree. It would be fine if my daughter was a lesbian (at least if it were genuine and not a performance for internet disadvantaged identity points) but as she’s gotten older it’s completely obvious that she’s not - she is attracted at least primarily to males. She gets crushes on males, looks at guys, writes and thinks about and draws male characters. She doesn’t talk about girls the same way. Yet she says she’s a boy. A gay boy.
I don’t disagree with you that for many people, being same-sex attracted is the reason they decide they are the opposite sex. But I don’t understand how you can insist that it has to be the reason for everyone when there are clearly many people who transition who are not same-sex attracted. What about all the well-publicized cases of men who are trying to insist on joining lesbian groups and accusing women who won’t sleep with them of bigotry? Or the men in women’s prisons who are having sex with female prisoners? It seems obvious that these types didn’t start identifying as trans because they were same-sex attracted.
Nobody transitions.
Their compulsion to imitate the opposite sex is amplified by doctors and other sexual mimics. 95-97% of children who claim gender dysphoria and have behaviors not common to their sex are lesbian are gay. I’ve read these numbers for years.
It’s a question do they imitate women a hour a day or the entire time when they are awake.
We don’t know the people you cite claimed gender dysphoria as a child. We do know they had the behavior of imitating the opposite sex as adults. It’s not even clear they had behaviors unusual for their sex ever in their lives.
Trans widows were so often married to aggressive, assertive masculine men who suddenly began imitating women.
A man claiming to have periods, wanting genital surgery, wanting to be sterilized, wanting steroid hormones, grooming themselves to look like prostitutes are doing so in service of imitating the opposite sex. It’s not in service of lacking assertion, being gentle, or other features of gay behavior for some men.
From this:
Young gay men who aren’t assertive, dislike rough-and-tumble play and other typically male behaviors aren’t imitating women.
Young Lesbians who are stoic, assertive and enjoy rough-and-tumble play aren’t imitating men.
Men who compulsively imitate females must work constantly to maintain the imitation. I suspect Women who compulsively imitate men must work constantly to maintain the imitation.
That’s the key difference.
Displaying behaviors uncommon to your sex is not compulsively imitating the other sex.
Likewise compulsively imitating the opposite sex is not being lesbian or gay.
If you have behaviors uncommon to your sex and teen angst over adult sexuality, 97 times out of 100 you’re lesbian or gay.
Your daughter, wanting to “be a gay man” is saying one thing, which i discuss extensively in relation to men, but it works almost the same for women.
“I want to imitate a gay man”
She may be entirely heterosexual. I have also in my half century of gay life also met a lot of bisexual women who want to have sex with a gay man - not a straight man - a gay man - and lately I’ve found that sometimes they believe if they act like (imitate) a man they may have sex with gay man.
This is called “if I imitate a man and stay around gay men who will never have sex with me (La Cage aux Folles notwithstanding) I don’t have to deal with straight men coming on to me and I will not have to deal with heterosexual sex”.
So ask yourself:
My daughter wants to imitate gay men, has crushes on gay men, and will never be attracted to men she would have sex with.
It the imitation becomes a compulsion, you have a sexual mimic. If it progresses she will become more aggressive in the imitation and resort to self-harm.
In all cases she’s not going to have sex with men, and is not attracted sexually to men who are attracted to her sexually.
Think about it.
Talk to a Lesbian. You’ll be surprised at the behaviors which you, unless you’re a Lesbian, would never occur to you to be Lesbian behaviors.
That’s why I say.
Assume they are lesbian or gay, and get them to talk to the appropriate counselor.
Parents can’t give them the talk.
Straight “affirmation” shrinks can’t.
And heaven help if she meets a compulsive sexual mimic.
IMO, there is simply no way that 95-97% figure is close to accurate. This insanity is so pervasive that hundreds of thousands if not millions of heterosexual children and young adults have also been caught up in it.
Trust me, I'm not at all dismissing the effect it has had on homosexual children and young adults.
In the late 80’s Green published a book on “sissy boys” or boys having many behaviors in common with girls - gentle, enjoying dolls, playing dress-up - which we use the term “sissy” for.
These boys almost always grow up to be gay. Within the research period it was perhaps 80% or better, but many gay men don’t come out until later in life so it will increase the longer you observe.
Kinsey institute had similar studies and other writers took on the subject until it was irrevocably tainted with trans advocacy.
Pre-child transing the data shows very high rate of conversion.
When trans enters the picture it relabeled teen angst over gay or lesbian behavior as trans and becoming gay or lesbian as “desistence” Trans people have an overwhelming compulsion to label all human behaviors in relation to trans so I discount all labels and observations as both false and manipulated. The moment the word “gender” is used is the moment logic fails because gender is used precisely to hide sex, and render the phenomenon “transgenderist” instead of sex related behavior.
The probability of a boy sharing a large number of behaviors with girls becoming in their lifetime a gay man or bisexual begins to asymptotically approach 100% once You look clearly at reports.
So: simple idea. If a boy has behaviors we more often see in girls, the chance that he isn’t gay will decline through this kids. It’s sufficient for the most part to identify them as gay and get them inmcontact with a gay counselor who can help them understand that they may not end up like their dad but there are many other ways for them to be a happy adult by looking at livea of successful gay men.
It however is of necessary. There are quite a few boys who become gay as adults who have only few if any female behaviors, quite ordinary overall.
Therefore assuming a boy who shares behaviors with girls ans lacks common behaviors with other boys will become gay as an adult is ar least 80%-90% accurate by end puberty by the numbers. Lifetime identification is likely100% but there is no data (for me other than the 1000’s of gay men I’ve known over decadea. I can count the number of sissy heterosexuals on one hand over 60 years.
When 95-97% resolve to lesbian or gay, therw are exceptions and I expect to hear “not my son not my daughter”. A Lesbian or Gay counselor will find these trivially. That’s the point, assume Lesbian or Gay, get that counselor to talk with them and help them through - 95%-97% of the time - the issues they face. If Gaydar or Lesbar (?!) doesn’t kick in, then like any good counselor they can work through their teen angst.
It routes them away from people with a compulsion to imitate the opposite sex, or doctors who don’t understand the compulsion.
Would you rather your daughter speak to a trans affirming doctor or a trans affirming trans?
You can’t change sexual orientation. Ever. You can’t change sex. Ever. Most gays and lesbians know that and wouldn’t dream of “recruiting”