Oh god this is too much π₯Ίπ i wish i could hug ypu and give you back your missing years. Since I cannot, all I can do is pray that something good happens in your life that is good enough to fill the void and missing years with new memories and new years. I don't know if such a thing exists except reparation, but still I pray that for you. My heart breaks for all of us.π₯Ίππ
I also feel your pain. I too am single after a 30-year marriage ended. I have one trans-identified child who wants little to do with me and another who maintains distance in order to manage the sibling relationship. I had to declutter my life to fit my belongings into a small house, so Iβve only kept my favorite photos. I decided to frame the ones that show my kids as I remember them at their best β when they were happy teenagers, involved in sports and music and not so obsessed with their identity or consumed with pessimism about the world. I posted them in a prominent place where I can pause to think hopeful thoughts about them before I leave for work every day.
Itβs very hard to feel you donβt have a family any more. I would give anything to feel a sense of belonging to a family again, to have a place to spend Sunday afternoons or to go for Christmas, surrounded by grandparents, cousins, and my own kids. Twenty years ago I had no idea this was the future that awaited me. Most of my friends are still married and have younger children, and they have no idea what kind of culture their kids will be graduating into.
I truly feel your pain. I wrote a poem a few days ago about losing my granddaughter (age 17) to the trans cult, but I didnβt mention her parents affirmed her, and I and my husband, on Fatherβs Day, lost our daughter too, and their two little boys. I received a text from her husband telling me Iβd never see them again. I havenβt seen them for 7 years, and theyβve moved house without a forwarding address.
Thanks for writing this for us parents who are in the same boat as you. Itβs a sad life, we parents have to live each and every day.
I miss my 28 year old son and his wife so much but they just arenβt letting me in unless I comply to their cultish rules.
I pray for them daily and hand it over to the Dear Lord hoping someday it will change.
I cry quietly inside. I hide all of it from my family and friends. Iβm not sure my son will ever come out of it but I will never stop loving him. Prayers and hugs to you all.
I have pictures all over my house and as screensavers on my tvs/computers of the happier days. I hardly took any pictures at Christmas this last year and very few for any other occasions since. If I have to live in the past to keep myself sane, I guess that is where you will find me.
It is too much and I'm so sorry π wonder what this conversation would have looked like with your family 30 years ago... or even 10. It's all so crazy.
I lost two daughters to the gender plague. I don't let the present rob me of the past. I have a running screen saver slide show of more than 1,000 pictures from happier times. Even knowing the horror show ending of that life, I still cherish the memories of those happy times. I know they loved me. I know we were a happy family. Nothing can take that away.
Agree completely. Having lost both my kids (son and daughter) to this madness, I will not under any circumstances allow them to rob me of my past and my cherished loving family memories too.
My son especially has demanded that I take down or replace my family portraits and whatnot, but my stern response is that βif you want me to respect your future, then you must respect my past.β This has worked so far and I have maintained a rough but still reasonably loving and respectful relationship with both kids.
Keep fighting and never give up. I think a few cracks are already starting to appear. Weβve got 10,000 years of civilization on our side, and all theyβve got is a crackpot theory. Eventually human nature will reassert itself (and at a rapid pace once βtransβ ceases to be βcool.β).
I like your comment about if you want me to respect your future you have to respect my past. I am happy that you have still got a relationship with your kids. I will not give up hope that someday I will have a relationship with my child again !
I really like this response but I have to ask, You have a reasonably loving & respectful relationshipβ¦that is wonderful but how so?? Those very word βreason & respect β doesnβt exist for us.
Thanks. Well I guess Iβve been lucky. I was close with both kids growing up, and my wife (to my annoyance) is generally affirming in her views. Also our family dynamic has always favored discussion over yelling, and both kids (now in college) recognize that continued financial support is needed. Bottom line is that they still seem to want us and need us in their lives, which works so long as I moderate expression of my own views. They know my opposition very well, but it is not necessary to live in a constant state of agitation.
β¦so you are able to agree to disagree. The best you can do in this situation. Thatβs positive at least. Difficult power dynamic too isnβt it. Sigh!
Good way to put it. 30 years as a litigator also helped me with lots of crossover skills, especially de-escalating hostile situations. Hopefully I can buy enough time for sanity to return.
Thatβs admirable, & Iβm glad they still want you in their lives, I hope you can build on that. Most often itβs all or nothing. It certainly is in my case. My refusal to use my sonβs preferred pronouns or name has led to estrangement. Never through yelling on my part but there was no discussion., no debate, no compromise. Itβs beyond me & thatβs not for lack of understanding. Itβs simply madness.
Yes, and our brains have hundreds of thousands of years of evolution behind them. They have got to start working again. And with Godβs help their brains and bodies will recover.
I recently read news of another detransitioner on Twitter having become a mother for the second time. This makes me very optimistic. I think evolution will make our bodies heal and God will make our spirits heal.
This is positive, but I think thatβs the point of what is so harrowing about this phenomenon. Their bodies will not recover, the damage is irreversible. So your point is right, for the future of course we I hope this will pass. It is with resignation that II see my/our kids as somewhat sacrificial if that makes sense & that our stories heard for it to end.
If detransitioners are having babies then it may not always be true that testosterone makes you sterile. Or at least there could be a point where the damage can still be reversed? I know of course that there is a point of no return, when you get vaginal atrophy and stool incontinence etc but detransitioners having babies is a wonderful thing.
They're trying to escape the stuff they see in porn and feel safe. It doesn't make it better, I get that. But who wants to vomit during oral sex or be punched and choked during anal sex? That's what girls see. And unless you live in a land without internet that's what they've seen.
Visit trans spaces. They will rail about how gay biological men don't want them.
Remember the Bible story of the Prodigal Son, his father never gave up. We defeat evil by living in kindness, forgiveness, and love. It wants us defeated, lost, and in misery so don't give it the satisfaction. Stay strong people, this is a war but we shall overcome.
What a very sad story. You are not alone, and we all feel your pain. I hate that this evil cult is tearing families apart. Heartless. Senseless. Relentless. Your son will always be your son. Cling to your memories. It is like losing a child to death only they don't die. But if he were to die, how would you feel about the pictures? It is very difficult, I understand. I have pictures of my mother, Stepfather, and nephew who have all passed framed in my home and I cherish them. I want to remember them, their smiles, the happier times when they were with me on this earth. Let go and let God. Do not let this cult keep you trapped, too. Take care of yourself and do something nice for You. Life is short, you are alive, so do something that will bring you joy. Best wishes.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and pain with us. It seems to come down to truth, doesnβt it? I am so sorry for your suffering, but please take β₯οΈ.
I almost couldnβt bring myself to finish reading this as the pain is so palpable and is so close to my own. I am years behind on photo albums and I want to finish them even if they would be offensive to my two captured kids but I canβt bring myself to do it yet. I plan to finish these albums and then keep them until I am gone or until my kids wake up. I hope one day I will be strong enough.
I was in the middle of catching up on photo albums when my son gave us his news. That was 3 years agoβ¦I guess that project will never come to fruition
Sadly this seems true. Being βtransβ is treated like any other lifestyle choice except that it is given legal protection. One has a legal right to mutilate oneβs body by castration/ breast removal, etc, but no legal protection to do less dangerous things like dye oneβs hair purple. The idea of gender reassignment being a protected characteristic is crazy. Simply eugenics.
So devastated for you. The saying 'they know not what they do' echoes in my head.. The destruction this causes is tantamount to full generational obliteration.
It's all about the money. Levine was selling the idea of an on site LCSW to fast track trans medical treatments in Pennsylvania before being tapped by Biden. There's a video of the pitch to Vanderbilt to set up a "gender clinic" talking about how lucrative it is.
They want to start the kids on meds ASAP before they change their minds. I saw a quote that the "puberty blocker as a pause to think" was really just a technique for reluctant parents. - I think in part of the WPATH article here from yesterday. The ones at the top sure as hell know.
The Human Rights campaign pushed back hard and the Whitehouse walked that statement back. Yes, the same HRC that put up and took down a video of a child being trans because of not liking the proper sex-sterotype toys. If I were to pick an actual side of the aisle for the pro trans polices, it's not left. The left drapes themselves all over it, but the polices are for massive corporate profits made by harming children. It's fear of being canceled that gets compliance. And in modern gen z social media people haven't developed a sense of self, outside of their friend network. They are the borg of star trek and want to assimilate you.
This really hit me. My son left a year and a half ago after accusing me of things unimaginable. I am apparently the worst parent on earth because Iβve raised my voice to get my child to be on time so that I was on time for work when he lived with me. One day, he literally said, βmom, who cares if youβre a little late, itβs not like youβll lose your jobββ¦.. well I literally WOULD lose my job if Iβm late more than 3 times without legitimate excuse. Anyway, after a year and almost a half he decided it would benefit him to move back home. I helped him get his drivers license and many other things during that time. He said he was taking a gap year from college and was going to get a jobβ¦. Apparently I was holding him too accountable for putting in resumesβ¦. Because he left 5 weeks later while I was at work with just a cryptic noteβ¦. There had been no argument or anything. He is now living a mile down the road with his lesbian friend and her parentsβ¦. And are on vacation this weekβ¦ my only child is vacationing with another(very woke) family. I am decorated! He wonβt answer my calls or texts and I donβt know what to do π
Make your overtures every so often, even if he never responds. The message of caring is for you, because your do care, and he is in a compromised situation. Only he is in the position to walk himself towards you. Helene advised me to not anguish when he is not ready, but to offer a simple caring message every so often. He'll remember the parent in the wings when he's capable to move towards you.
I couldnβt write to my daughter again, sheβs been so cruel to all of us. My last email was on 18 th March, and I also attempted to speak to her physically on that day and she told me to go away and leave her alone. Iβm not going to put up with this anymore.
It's not you, so don't blame yourself. This cult is vile enough to see us as a threat to the evil they want to perpetrate. They convince the children that we are the enemy, we are not, we are the only thing standing between them and our children. They are predators who want to demoralize and destroy our children, they are expert at manipulation and want you to blame yourself, don't.
There is nothing to do other than feel tremendous relief that he is not your problem anymore. You did all that you could. The saying "living well is the best revenge" comes to mind. Live your life and try to find peace and contentment in other things. Looking at the positive side, he is in a house as opposed to homeless.
How can these glitter families be so horrible? I have discovered that my daughter spends so much time in her girlfriendβs address and not once did the βparentsβ (groomers more like it) who live there ever telephoned me to say she was ok. I will never forget or forgive. They know weβre deeply concerned for my daughter because of how much we tried to communicate with her but because their own daughter is a lunatic self harmer they probably assume my daughter gives her daughter stability. This is a message to all the glitter families out there who might be reading this: We know who you are, we know what youβre doing and one day there will be a reckoning
Oh god this is too much π₯Ίπ i wish i could hug ypu and give you back your missing years. Since I cannot, all I can do is pray that something good happens in your life that is good enough to fill the void and missing years with new memories and new years. I don't know if such a thing exists except reparation, but still I pray that for you. My heart breaks for all of us.π₯Ίππ
I also feel your pain. I too am single after a 30-year marriage ended. I have one trans-identified child who wants little to do with me and another who maintains distance in order to manage the sibling relationship. I had to declutter my life to fit my belongings into a small house, so Iβve only kept my favorite photos. I decided to frame the ones that show my kids as I remember them at their best β when they were happy teenagers, involved in sports and music and not so obsessed with their identity or consumed with pessimism about the world. I posted them in a prominent place where I can pause to think hopeful thoughts about them before I leave for work every day.
Itβs very hard to feel you donβt have a family any more. I would give anything to feel a sense of belonging to a family again, to have a place to spend Sunday afternoons or to go for Christmas, surrounded by grandparents, cousins, and my own kids. Twenty years ago I had no idea this was the future that awaited me. Most of my friends are still married and have younger children, and they have no idea what kind of culture their kids will be graduating into.
I truly feel your pain. I wrote a poem a few days ago about losing my granddaughter (age 17) to the trans cult, but I didnβt mention her parents affirmed her, and I and my husband, on Fatherβs Day, lost our daughter too, and their two little boys. I received a text from her husband telling me Iβd never see them again. I havenβt seen them for 7 years, and theyβve moved house without a forwarding address.
I am so sorry. I will pray for you all.
Thanks for writing this for us parents who are in the same boat as you. Itβs a sad life, we parents have to live each and every day.
I miss my 28 year old son and his wife so much but they just arenβt letting me in unless I comply to their cultish rules.
I pray for them daily and hand it over to the Dear Lord hoping someday it will change.
I cry quietly inside. I hide all of it from my family and friends. Iβm not sure my son will ever come out of it but I will never stop loving him. Prayers and hugs to you all.
I am so sorry. I will pray for you and your son.
Thank you.
I have pictures all over my house and as screensavers on my tvs/computers of the happier days. I hardly took any pictures at Christmas this last year and very few for any other occasions since. If I have to live in the past to keep myself sane, I guess that is where you will find me.
It is too much and I'm so sorry π wonder what this conversation would have looked like with your family 30 years ago... or even 10. It's all so crazy.
I lost two daughters to the gender plague. I don't let the present rob me of the past. I have a running screen saver slide show of more than 1,000 pictures from happier times. Even knowing the horror show ending of that life, I still cherish the memories of those happy times. I know they loved me. I know we were a happy family. Nothing can take that away.
Agree completely. Having lost both my kids (son and daughter) to this madness, I will not under any circumstances allow them to rob me of my past and my cherished loving family memories too.
My son especially has demanded that I take down or replace my family portraits and whatnot, but my stern response is that βif you want me to respect your future, then you must respect my past.β This has worked so far and I have maintained a rough but still reasonably loving and respectful relationship with both kids.
Keep fighting and never give up. I think a few cracks are already starting to appear. Weβve got 10,000 years of civilization on our side, and all theyβve got is a crackpot theory. Eventually human nature will reassert itself (and at a rapid pace once βtransβ ceases to be βcool.β).
I like your comment about if you want me to respect your future you have to respect my past. I am happy that you have still got a relationship with your kids. I will not give up hope that someday I will have a relationship with my child again !
I really like this response but I have to ask, You have a reasonably loving & respectful relationshipβ¦that is wonderful but how so?? Those very word βreason & respect β doesnβt exist for us.
Thanks. Well I guess Iβve been lucky. I was close with both kids growing up, and my wife (to my annoyance) is generally affirming in her views. Also our family dynamic has always favored discussion over yelling, and both kids (now in college) recognize that continued financial support is needed. Bottom line is that they still seem to want us and need us in their lives, which works so long as I moderate expression of my own views. They know my opposition very well, but it is not necessary to live in a constant state of agitation.
β¦so you are able to agree to disagree. The best you can do in this situation. Thatβs positive at least. Difficult power dynamic too isnβt it. Sigh!
Good way to put it. 30 years as a litigator also helped me with lots of crossover skills, especially de-escalating hostile situations. Hopefully I can buy enough time for sanity to return.
Thatβs admirable, & Iβm glad they still want you in their lives, I hope you can build on that. Most often itβs all or nothing. It certainly is in my case. My refusal to use my sonβs preferred pronouns or name has led to estrangement. Never through yelling on my part but there was no discussion., no debate, no compromise. Itβs beyond me & thatβs not for lack of understanding. Itβs simply madness.
Yes, and our brains have hundreds of thousands of years of evolution behind them. They have got to start working again. And with Godβs help their brains and bodies will recover.
I recently read news of another detransitioner on Twitter having become a mother for the second time. This makes me very optimistic. I think evolution will make our bodies heal and God will make our spirits heal.
This is positive, but I think thatβs the point of what is so harrowing about this phenomenon. Their bodies will not recover, the damage is irreversible. So your point is right, for the future of course we I hope this will pass. It is with resignation that II see my/our kids as somewhat sacrificial if that makes sense & that our stories heard for it to end.
If detransitioners are having babies then it may not always be true that testosterone makes you sterile. Or at least there could be a point where the damage can still be reversed? I know of course that there is a point of no return, when you get vaginal atrophy and stool incontinence etc but detransitioners having babies is a wonderful thing.
Yes..I guess I was looking at it mostly because I have a son caught up.. 3 years on oestrogen I think he is pretty much sterile
π
They're trying to escape the stuff they see in porn and feel safe. It doesn't make it better, I get that. But who wants to vomit during oral sex or be punched and choked during anal sex? That's what girls see. And unless you live in a land without internet that's what they've seen.
Visit trans spaces. They will rail about how gay biological men don't want them.
Never, ever give up. Continue to love them. That is the real kindness.
Remember the Bible story of the Prodigal Son, his father never gave up. We defeat evil by living in kindness, forgiveness, and love. It wants us defeated, lost, and in misery so don't give it the satisfaction. Stay strong people, this is a war but we shall overcome.
I am so, so sorry for your loss. I understand only too well what you are going through.
What a very sad story. You are not alone, and we all feel your pain. I hate that this evil cult is tearing families apart. Heartless. Senseless. Relentless. Your son will always be your son. Cling to your memories. It is like losing a child to death only they don't die. But if he were to die, how would you feel about the pictures? It is very difficult, I understand. I have pictures of my mother, Stepfather, and nephew who have all passed framed in my home and I cherish them. I want to remember them, their smiles, the happier times when they were with me on this earth. Let go and let God. Do not let this cult keep you trapped, too. Take care of yourself and do something nice for You. Life is short, you are alive, so do something that will bring you joy. Best wishes.
Thank you
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and pain with us. It seems to come down to truth, doesnβt it? I am so sorry for your suffering, but please take β₯οΈ.
I almost couldnβt bring myself to finish reading this as the pain is so palpable and is so close to my own. I am years behind on photo albums and I want to finish them even if they would be offensive to my two captured kids but I canβt bring myself to do it yet. I plan to finish these albums and then keep them until I am gone or until my kids wake up. I hope one day I will be strong enough.
I was in the middle of catching up on photo albums when my son gave us his news. That was 3 years agoβ¦I guess that project will never come to fruition
me either ugh so tragic
Why oh why are so many siblings doing this, and how the ever living hell can that not be a red flag that this is not "how it's always been"
Every story like this breaks my heart. I cannot imagine the pain you feel. And I will never understand how this happened.
So many people donβt care.
Sadly this seems true. Being βtransβ is treated like any other lifestyle choice except that it is given legal protection. One has a legal right to mutilate oneβs body by castration/ breast removal, etc, but no legal protection to do less dangerous things like dye oneβs hair purple. The idea of gender reassignment being a protected characteristic is crazy. Simply eugenics.
So devastated for you. The saying 'they know not what they do' echoes in my head.. The destruction this causes is tantamount to full generational obliteration.
Yes, they βknow not what they doβ they have been lied to. But the most powerful of the liers must know what they are doing.
It's all about the money. Levine was selling the idea of an on site LCSW to fast track trans medical treatments in Pennsylvania before being tapped by Biden. There's a video of the pitch to Vanderbilt to set up a "gender clinic" talking about how lucrative it is.
They want to start the kids on meds ASAP before they change their minds. I saw a quote that the "puberty blocker as a pause to think" was really just a technique for reluctant parents. - I think in part of the WPATH article here from yesterday. The ones at the top sure as hell know.
The Human Rights campaign pushed back hard and the Whitehouse walked that statement back. Yes, the same HRC that put up and took down a video of a child being trans because of not liking the proper sex-sterotype toys. If I were to pick an actual side of the aisle for the pro trans polices, it's not left. The left drapes themselves all over it, but the polices are for massive corporate profits made by harming children. It's fear of being canceled that gets compliance. And in modern gen z social media people haven't developed a sense of self, outside of their friend network. They are the borg of star trek and want to assimilate you.
This is the HRC story they pulled from X
https://www.hrc.org/our-work/stories/leo-is-writing-his-own-story
FFS maybe she's a girl who likes trucks, and not some sort of fucked up reincarnation of a boy soul.
This really hit me. My son left a year and a half ago after accusing me of things unimaginable. I am apparently the worst parent on earth because Iβve raised my voice to get my child to be on time so that I was on time for work when he lived with me. One day, he literally said, βmom, who cares if youβre a little late, itβs not like youβll lose your jobββ¦.. well I literally WOULD lose my job if Iβm late more than 3 times without legitimate excuse. Anyway, after a year and almost a half he decided it would benefit him to move back home. I helped him get his drivers license and many other things during that time. He said he was taking a gap year from college and was going to get a jobβ¦. Apparently I was holding him too accountable for putting in resumesβ¦. Because he left 5 weeks later while I was at work with just a cryptic noteβ¦. There had been no argument or anything. He is now living a mile down the road with his lesbian friend and her parentsβ¦. And are on vacation this weekβ¦ my only child is vacationing with another(very woke) family. I am decorated! He wonβt answer my calls or texts and I donβt know what to do π
Make your overtures every so often, even if he never responds. The message of caring is for you, because your do care, and he is in a compromised situation. Only he is in the position to walk himself towards you. Helene advised me to not anguish when he is not ready, but to offer a simple caring message every so often. He'll remember the parent in the wings when he's capable to move towards you.
I couldnβt write to my daughter again, sheβs been so cruel to all of us. My last email was on 18 th March, and I also attempted to speak to her physically on that day and she told me to go away and leave her alone. Iβm not going to put up with this anymore.
Thank you. I will do that. I just keep holding out hope.
It's not you, so don't blame yourself. This cult is vile enough to see us as a threat to the evil they want to perpetrate. They convince the children that we are the enemy, we are not, we are the only thing standing between them and our children. They are predators who want to demoralize and destroy our children, they are expert at manipulation and want you to blame yourself, don't.
There is nothing to do other than feel tremendous relief that he is not your problem anymore. You did all that you could. The saying "living well is the best revenge" comes to mind. Live your life and try to find peace and contentment in other things. Looking at the positive side, he is in a house as opposed to homeless.
Yes, and somebody else has to feed him not you. My daughterβs glitter family are feeding and entertaining her. Iβm saving money π
Glitter family definitely describes the family he is living with π€¦π»ββοΈ π’
How can these glitter families be so horrible? I have discovered that my daughter spends so much time in her girlfriendβs address and not once did the βparentsβ (groomers more like it) who live there ever telephoned me to say she was ok. I will never forget or forgive. They know weβre deeply concerned for my daughter because of how much we tried to communicate with her but because their own daughter is a lunatic self harmer they probably assume my daughter gives her daughter stability. This is a message to all the glitter families out there who might be reading this: We know who you are, we know what youβre doing and one day there will be a reckoning
***Devastated not decorated
That was my guess!